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 Proton PrevĂ© V21, Versione ventuno!

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post Sep 9 2014, 06:37 PM

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Just want to check here...

Did anyone actually paid RM300 to update the bloody GPS map for the Bosch head unit?

or in other words...what is the version of your map? one Prevec kaki mention that his version is 2012.V4 (i am not sure how they check the map version anyway, anyone know please share)

How about new Preve? did they give u the new map? or still the 2012 crap?

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post Sep 9 2014, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(terryble @ Sep 9 2014, 06:37 PM)
Just want to check here...

Did anyone actually paid RM300 to update the bloody GPS map for the Bosch head unit?

or in other words...what is the version of your map? one Prevec kaki mention that his version is 2012.V4 (i am not sure how they check the map version anyway, anyone know please share)

How about new Preve? did they give u the new map? or still the 2012 crap?
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not really worth to upgrade.. even papago in smartphone also RM100 only.. promotion period rm50 like i bought before.. my preve GPS only useful to bring me home when i lost in unfamiliar city.. haha.. at least can bring me to highway then i know how to back.. others, if got specific well known location, i think it's ok.. want better map, get waze.. even penang bridge also updated ady..
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post Sep 9 2014, 10:27 PM

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Nothing is better than Google Maps or Nokia Maps to me, so unless the update package is significantly cheaper, I wouldn't do it. I'm willing to pay RM 50, top.
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post Sep 9 2014, 10:57 PM

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Preve steering is heavier to control compare with my brother persona and my vios. Vios I think cause small size tyre and lighter. But persona? Can I highlight this to SC? You guys OK with the steering? This and the radio sign and weak music player that i not satisfied. Other then that I am OK . Got plan to change car player but not sure how much outside...
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post Sep 9 2014, 10:58 PM

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Preve steering is heavier to control compare with my brother persona and my vios. Vios I think cause small size tyre and lighter. But persona? Can I highlight this to SC? You guys OK with the steering? This and the radio sign and weak music player that i not satisfied. Other then that I am OK . Got plan to change car player but not sure how much outside...
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Preve steering is heavier to control compare with my brother persona and my vios. Vios I think cause small size tyre and lighter. But persona? Can I highlight this to SC? You guys OK with the steering? This and the radio sign and weak music player that i not satisfied. Other then that I am OK . Got plan to change car player but not sure how much outside...
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post Sep 9 2014, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Sep 9 2014, 10:58 PM)
Preve steering is heavier to control compare with my brother persona and my vios. Vios I think cause small size tyre and lighter.  But persona? Can I highlight this to SC? You guys OK with the steering?  This and the radio sign and weak music player that i not satisfied.  Other then that I am OK .  Got plan to change car player but not sure how much outside...
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3 posts from u.. can understand u really frustrated on it.. tongue.gif

yea.. 16inch rim is 1 of matter.. but most i think it due to handling.. u may go complaints for the antenna with sc.. see whether change another antenna can improve better signal.. mine not so serious.. just sometimes gt some little noisy with radio.. but only sometimes.. so im ok..
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post Sep 9 2014, 11:13 PM

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My steering wheel button got problem now, i tried to mute the music but the mute button change to other radio channel..
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post Sep 10 2014, 12:26 AM

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will be getting my exec fire red tomorrow. any tips or anything i need to check when got the car ? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

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post Sep 10 2014, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Sep 9 2014, 10:58 PM)
Preve steering is heavier to control compare with my brother persona and my vios. Vios I think cause small size tyre and lighter.  But persona? Can I highlight this to SC? You guys OK with the steering?  This and the radio sign and weak music player that i not satisfied.  Other then that I am OK .  Got plan to change car player but not sure how much outside...
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Yes, the steering in the Preve is heavy. As a matter of fact it's the heaviest steering I have experienced for a car. Certainly need to get some use, as I understand you will find it a chore if you happen to be used to lighter steerings in most vehicle. It will be more difficult to manoeuvre the vehicle in tight spaces especially when parking the vehicle, doing reverse etc. when you are used to light steerings. I don't think there is much you can do about it as the design of the vehicle, the weight of the steering wheel by Proton is as such.

The weight of the steering is not related to the size of the car or the wheels. Larger vehicles will have light steerings too. All larger Segment D Japanese vehicles such as Honda Accord for example, have light steerings.

Music player in the Preve is not good with flat 2-dimensional sound and weak bass.
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post Sep 10 2014, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Sep 10 2014, 07:45 AM)
Yes, the steering in the Preve is heavy. As a matter of fact it's the heaviest steering I have experienced for a car. Certainly need to get some use, as I understand you will find it a chore if you happen to be used to lighter steerings in most vehicle. It will be more difficult to manoeuvre the vehicle in tight spaces especially when parking the vehicle, doing reverse etc. when you are used to light steerings. I don't think there is much you can do about it as the design of the vehicle, the weight of the steering wheel by Proton is as such.

The weight of the steering is not related to the size of the car or the wheels. Larger vehicles will have light steerings too. All larger Segment D Japanese vehicles such as Honda Accord for example, have light steerings.

Music player in the Preve is not good with flat 2-dimensional sound and weak bass.
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oh... i am not alone there.... haha, we are in the same club
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post Sep 10 2014, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(fitzhex @ Sep 10 2014, 12:26 AM)
will be getting my exec fire red tomorrow. any tips or anything i need to check when got the car ?  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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might sound abnormal but you should check underneath the car too... my front bumper was scratch and it was badly touchup only realized after 2 weeks
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post Sep 10 2014, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Sep 9 2014, 10:58 PM)
Preve steering is heavier to control compare with my brother persona and my vios. Vios I think cause small size tyre and lighter.  But persona? Can I highlight this to SC? You guys OK with the steering?  This and the radio sign and weak music player that i not satisfied.  Other then that I am OK .  Got plan to change car player but not sure how much outside...
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No problem with my steering wheel, easy/light to turn.

Maybe problem with the hydraulic system powering the steering wheel?

Cheerio.
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post Sep 10 2014, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Sep 9 2014, 10:14 PM)
not really worth to upgrade.. even papago in smartphone also RM100 only.. promotion period rm50 like i bought before.. my preve GPS only useful to bring me home when i lost in unfamiliar city.. haha.. at least can bring me to highway then i know how to back.. others, if got specific well known location, i think it's ok.. want better map, get waze.. even penang bridge also updated ady..
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I am not a big fan of waze...in fact after a few MONTHS playing with it...i totally ignored it as a navigation system~~it simply reroute ...and not consistent~~i prefer Google map~~much more reliable and consistent and now it has updated with traffic info and promtp your with reroute option...

however....then u will ask me.."there u go...u get the answer...y use car gps?"

the reason is that....google map had to rely on the 3G network which is kinda sux in Malaysia and also the AGPS is also affected by bad weather sometimes (im using umobile)~~certain area i go...does not even has proper line and hence stressed me a hell lot....honestly..i think the Preve's GPS signal is very damn good, fast, responsive and accurate~~the problem is the bloody map~~

well...how often i use GPS? hmm not really a lot but when i wanna use it...it means i REALLY need it and i want it to be reliable....

lastly sinz i get preve..the travel mood is back and i have been traveling around peninsula~~i enjoy the ride with it thumbup.gif




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post Sep 10 2014, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 10 2014, 09:30 AM)
No problem with my steering wheel, easy/light to turn.

Maybe problem with the hydraulic system powering the steering wheel?

Cheerio.
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Very subjective this

Preve steering really heavier as compare to other japanese car

Maybe u feel light cause previously you drive proton car too?

i drove waja, i can feel preve steering is slightly lighter
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post Sep 10 2014, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Sep 10 2014, 07:45 AM)
Yes, the steering in the Preve is heavy. As a matter of fact it's the heaviest steering I have experienced for a car. Certainly need to get some use, as I understand you will find it a chore if you happen to be used to lighter steerings in most vehicle. It will be more difficult to manoeuvre the vehicle in tight spaces especially when parking the vehicle, doing reverse etc. when you are used to light steerings. I don't think there is much you can do about it as the design of the vehicle, the weight of the steering wheel by Proton is as such.

The weight of the steering is not related to the size of the car or the wheels. Larger vehicles will have light steerings too. All larger Segment D Japanese vehicles such as Honda Accord for example, have light steerings.

Music player in the Preve is not good with flat 2-dimensional sound and weak bass.
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Ermm correct me if i am wrong...those cars you have mentioned feature an electronic steering system which simulates the actual driving condition and give instructions to the wheel on how much to turn~~

while preve features the more traditional hydraulic power steering system the do NOT have all those artificial thing on it~~all you feel is the real thing~~

PERSONALLY i strongly prefer the real thing over the artificial feeling created by the computer...it does gives me confidence and better control~~and i think it is damn responsive, i think that is the best feature of the car, it is fun to drive thumbup.gif

and honestly i think the steering is not THAT heavy to the extent that i have a problem doing reverse parking (note: i am not a tough guy with some big ass muscles) sweat.gif.... maybe the car i drive before (a wira aeroback) has a heavier steering~~

As for the radio system...yeah the signal reception is kinda sux...even my old wira is better..BUT the sound system was not that bad..in fact i think it is quite good and the base is OK~~im not sure if this has to do with the voltage stabilizer i have installed~~



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post Sep 10 2014, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(judge-the @ Sep 10 2014, 09:28 AM)
might sound abnormal but you should check underneath the car too... my front bumper was scratch and it was badly touchup only realized after 2 weeks
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notworthy.gif i will. thanks
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post Sep 10 2014, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(terryble @ Sep 10 2014, 09:47 AM)
I am not a big fan of waze...in fact after a few MONTHS playing with it...i totally ignored it as a navigation system~~it simply reroute ...and not consistent~~i prefer Google map~~much more reliable and consistent and now it has updated with traffic info and promtp your with reroute option...

however....then u will ask me.."there u go...u get the answer...y use car gps?"

the reason is that....google map had to rely on the 3G network which is kinda sux in Malaysia and also the AGPS is also affected by bad weather sometimes  (im using umobile)~~certain area i go...does not even has proper line and hence stressed me a hell lot....honestly..i think the Preve's GPS signal is very damn good, fast, responsive and accurate~~the problem is the bloody map~~

well...how often i use GPS? hmm not really a lot but when i wanna use it...it means i REALLY need it and i want it to be reliable....

lastly sinz i get preve..the travel mood is back and i have been traveling around peninsula~~i enjoy the ride with it  thumbup.gif
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Forget about the map. It is from Tom Tom. Even the latest map from Tom Tom is highly inaccurate: http://routes.tomtom.com/#/map/?center=3.0...oom=7&map=basic

Even the 2nd Penang Bridge is not there yet. I'm using the map in 2D North up mode to get an overview of where I am in relation to the roads (i.e. east of MRR2 but west of MEX). I'm using Garmin GPS in 3D mode for my navigation needs.

How come the Preve GPS has good lock on?
1. The antenna is outside the car, thus not affected by tinted and gets very good view of the satellites
2. It has Dead Reckoning feature, which is positional update with out GPS using speed sensors, steering sensors. Similar to INS (Inertial Navigation System)
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QUOTE(vikneswaranc_17 @ Sep 8 2014, 10:07 AM)
anything related to suspension warranty void.. but i dont think it covers the absorber as its wear and tear item
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I'm still wondering how did you get 7.9L/100KM. Jealous. I'm not sure is it that I didn't break in the engine enough during <1000KM.
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post Sep 10 2014, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Sep 10 2014, 11:47 AM)
I'm still wondering how did you get 7.9L/100KM. Jealous. I'm not sure is it that I didn't break in the engine enough during <1000KM.
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you try ditching xw50 engine oil see

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