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im 3rd!!
Proton Prevé V21, Versione ventuno!
Proton Prevé V21, Versione ventuno!
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Jul 10 2014, 12:02 AM
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Jul 11 2014, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Jul 11 2014, 10:58 AM) When brake at high speed, got the helicopter sound... if wait until 1st service only check, will it be harmful to the car?? common issue~~as long as u can brake effectively then should be fine~~it is a problem cause by the disc~the surface is uneven or the disc bengkok~~ im not sure if they are going to replace your disc or just service anyway... those who have similar problem please response~~ |
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Jul 24 2014, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(flex3x @ Jul 24 2014, 12:20 PM) Great article~~i always think changing semi syn oil at 5,000KM is a waste....i believe i will stick to the 10,000KM requirement (or near to that) as per the manual~~just to make sure the engine gets its warranty~~ |
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Jul 24 2014, 12:48 PM
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Aug 1 2014, 12:29 PM
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Hey guys~~i have a problem with the indicator also~~
the engine indicator lights up~~according to the manual it say emission control problem... I've check the engine oil...despite running for 8k KM the oil quality is still superb~~smooth and non stick and still appeared to be yellowish instead of black~~ anyone encounter the same problem before? Please advice~~ |
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Aug 8 2014, 11:47 AM
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Aug 13 2014, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Aug 13 2014, 09:32 AM) Myth Buster on telly showed the study on fuel saving - with ac and with windows winded down for cooling. Proved that even with the additional wind drag due to the opened windows, it is more fuel economic with the windows opened and ac off! Ha. But there will be some asking, then what is the point of having the ac? Ha. that being said....convertible and car with sun roof also does not seems wise to be used or buy here... rainfall come all of sudden and which malaysian wanna get sun burn here...? bear in mind one also has to pay more for convertibles and the sun roof |
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Aug 26 2014, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(kulatkia @ Aug 26 2014, 01:14 PM) minta pandangan sifus... The "key" u put into the slot is actually a transponder only(like your office door access card), once your car had confirmed the code in the transponder, the engine can start even if you have pull it out...thats why even if ur remote run out of battery completely it will still function as it does not require power (again just like your door access card)...but u do need to open the door manually with the key~~how true is this? i dare not try as i recall manual book did stated not try so but i was wondering wat if we forgot lock the door and someone just can easier drive away our toy thx! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=800414226647096 in short....the "key" is an anti theft measure that prevent unauthorized person from starting your engine and steal ur car....although Proton make it a bit stupid** ..but...Preve Premium is genuinely a "keyless entry" vehicle where no physical key is require... **other car makers may just detect the transponder when it is nearby and u can open the door and start engine with the transponder in your pocket and do NOT even need to take it out~~just wondering if it is radioactive THE CAR MANUAL CLEARLY DESCRIBE THE ABOVE...PLEASE READ THAT PROPERLY...THERE ARE A LOT OF "HIDDEN" FEATURES LIKE THIS THAT U MAY NOT KNOW This post has been edited by terryble: Aug 26 2014, 11:26 PM |
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Aug 26 2014, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Aug 26 2014, 09:02 AM) guys, need some advice... I am a bit regret installing the R3 body kit~~not to be confused...i think it is very nice and i like it a lot....but the front body kit is just too low~~and the current building standard in Malaysia really sucks~~even new building like Paradigm mall when u go down the car park ram, ur bodykit will definitely hit the ground no matter how slow or how snaky u maneuver...is it advisable to install r3 bodykit with the standard 16" rims? almost going for r3 but last minute changed my mind after i whacked my standard bumper yesterday morning This post has been edited by terryble: Aug 27 2014, 09:23 AM |
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Aug 28 2014, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 28 2014, 08:56 AM) The fabric seat on my Preve Turbo doesn't have the loose thread phenomenon yet, though I always had this squeaking sound from the seat, even though I have had the whole seat changed at the service centre once. The squeaking sound came back. I don't know if i can wait until my next 20,000km service to get this resolved as the sound from the seat is annoying. Every time you move your back against the seat, especially when going over road bumps, and your back rub against the seat, the sound will come up. I am not an expert, but logically i think the sound is not from the seat~~~Just poor quality seats. Anybody had this similar problem? I wonder if my case is an isolated case, but after having the defective seat replaced to a brand new seat, the sound is still there. Just made me wonder if all the seats in the Preve are meant to emit some sound? it is how they install the seat~~the squeaking sound is from the where the seat legs joint to the car's chasis~~ if i am right...no matter how many times you change the seats...the same problem will occur... i will just lock a small piece of rubber (washer) between the seat and the chasis to absorb all the friction & vibration (weird sound)...OR ELSE some WD40 should do the job~~ nothing to stop them from doing both anyway~~ This post has been edited by terryble: Aug 28 2014, 11:38 AM |
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Aug 28 2014, 06:00 PM
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Sep 3 2014, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Sep 3 2014, 08:59 AM) guys guys guys... want to ask here..any owner here with preve more then 2 years? after 2 years what the major problem you facing so far? For me it is about 9 months down the road~~by the way,my wife getting her car today afternoon. feeling exciting now... so far only minor problems noted and solved~~ for example brake switch issue (result in engine warning light) and the passenger door problem (does not close as easier as the other 3 doors).... SC replaced the brake switch and adjusted the door for me~~so problem does not repeat~~ after 9 months...i have to say....the car is solid, spacious, fun to drive and comfortable~~no complains except for the R3 bodykit |
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Sep 3 2014, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Sep 3 2014, 10:23 AM) Well, I'm at PJ Sect 13 SC for my 1000km service. The Front Desk lady recommend me to topup extra to use Syn 800 instead of the Mineral Oil for RM56. Service so far so good. The service center is good~~Got an update from a staff here. Syn800 can be use till 10k km if you use the car for daily ride. If you have done a lot of Long Distance Driving, it's advisable to change at 5k km. if they cant solve your problem satisfactorily... look for Mr Lai~~the Manager there~~very helpful and responsible guy that promised to sold your problem~~ worth every penny for u to go for Syn 800...it is a value for money semi synthetic oil~~ |
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Sep 4 2014, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Sep 4 2014, 07:18 AM) Thanks for the information. In my case it is intermittent. I do reverse many times. Just this morning when parking I did a reverse going up a slope and the engine didn't shut down. Say in 100 times doing reverse it will shut down once. Dude is yours a new car? i have similar problem once when i received my car back in December~~it involve in problems reversing through a slope...like the clutch does not engage..the engine does not shut down anyway~~ during the 1000 KM service they just update the ecu mapping and then the problem solved~~at least for the next 8 months it never occur~~ |
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Sep 9 2014, 06:37 PM
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Just want to check here...
Did anyone actually paid RM300 to update the bloody GPS map for the Bosch head unit? or in other words...what is the version of your map? one Prevec kaki mention that his version is 2012.V4 (i am not sure how they check the map version anyway, anyone know please share) How about new Preve? did they give u the new map? or still the 2012 crap? This post has been edited by terryble: Sep 9 2014, 06:38 PM |
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Sep 10 2014, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Sep 9 2014, 10:14 PM) not really worth to upgrade.. even papago in smartphone also RM100 only.. promotion period rm50 like i bought before.. my preve GPS only useful to bring me home when i lost in unfamiliar city.. haha.. at least can bring me to highway then i know how to back.. others, if got specific well known location, i think it's ok.. want better map, get waze.. even penang bridge also updated ady.. I am not a big fan of waze...in fact after a few MONTHS playing with it...i totally ignored it as a navigation system~~it simply reroute ...and not consistent~~i prefer Google map~~much more reliable and consistent and now it has updated with traffic info and promtp your with reroute option...however....then u will ask me.."there u go...u get the answer...y use car gps?" the reason is that....google map had to rely on the 3G network which is kinda sux in Malaysia and also the AGPS is also affected by bad weather sometimes (im using umobile)~~certain area i go...does not even has proper line and hence stressed me a hell lot....honestly..i think the Preve's GPS signal is very damn good, fast, responsive and accurate~~the problem is the bloody map~~ well...how often i use GPS? hmm not really a lot but when i wanna use it...it means i REALLY need it and i want it to be reliable.... lastly sinz i get preve..the travel mood is back and i have been traveling around peninsula~~i enjoy the ride with it |
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Sep 10 2014, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Sep 10 2014, 07:45 AM) Yes, the steering in the Preve is heavy. As a matter of fact it's the heaviest steering I have experienced for a car. Certainly need to get some use, as I understand you will find it a chore if you happen to be used to lighter steerings in most vehicle. It will be more difficult to manoeuvre the vehicle in tight spaces especially when parking the vehicle, doing reverse etc. when you are used to light steerings. I don't think there is much you can do about it as the design of the vehicle, the weight of the steering wheel by Proton is as such. Ermm correct me if i am wrong...those cars you have mentioned feature an electronic steering system which simulates the actual driving condition and give instructions to the wheel on how much to turn~~The weight of the steering is not related to the size of the car or the wheels. Larger vehicles will have light steerings too. All larger Segment D Japanese vehicles such as Honda Accord for example, have light steerings. Music player in the Preve is not good with flat 2-dimensional sound and weak bass. while preve features the more traditional hydraulic power steering system the do NOT have all those artificial thing on it~~all you feel is the real thing~~ PERSONALLY i strongly prefer the real thing over the artificial feeling created by the computer...it does gives me confidence and better control~~and i think it is damn responsive, i think that is the best feature of the car, it is fun to drive and honestly i think the steering is not THAT heavy to the extent that i have a problem doing reverse parking (note: i am not a tough guy with some big ass muscles) As for the radio system...yeah the signal reception is kinda sux...even my old wira is better..BUT the sound system was not that bad..in fact i think it is quite good and the base is OK~~im not sure if this has to do with the voltage stabilizer i have installed~~ This post has been edited by terryble: Sep 10 2014, 10:11 AM |
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Sep 10 2014, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Sep 10 2014, 08:24 PM) Yes, you are correct that most if not all Japanese cars are on EPS(Electronic Power Steering), and yes, the steering feel is indeed lacking in most of these cars, especially the Honda City that I have just driven not too long ago. The steering feel is indeed one of the worst I have driven(for a Japanese car). It is not about the lightness of the steering but the accuracy of it. It felt loose and feedback was poor. Somehow it didn't give me the control and confidence I wanted especially when around the bends. Perhaps I wasn't accustomed to the steering feel of the City, but still it was one of the worse driving experience I have encountered. The Nissan Sylphy's steering is better in this respect, more accurate than the City but still with poor feedback. Well said dude~~hopefully i can try a ford focus soon~~And yes, the Preve's heavy steering is more accurate and feels more real than most of these Japanese vehicles. However, there is a car on EPS that to me, is more accurate than the Preve, the Ford Focus. As a matter of fact, the Focus is just a joy to drive not only for the light and responsive steering but the combination of that and the overall dynamics of the vehicle particularly the suspension. Although the steering of the Focus is light, the accuracy is higher than any cars that I have driven, Even the Preve's steering can sometimes feel "loose" but the Focus' steering is taut and tight ie. accurate in any driving conditions, even though it is light. It is not so much on the argument about FAKE vs REAL feel of the steering, but the accuracy and responsiveness of it, the driver having added confidence in taking a bend or corners at higher speeds with the accurate steering. The steering can be EPS and light but it can be responsive and accurate(the Focus). There are EPS steerings that are light but not as responsive and accurate(most Japanese vehicles Honda, Nissan, Toyota etc.). Though a disclaimer. It is not all about the steering only when it comes to the joy of driving. It's usually a combination of the steering, chassis, suspension and power, around that order. The Preve Turbo at RM70k isn't too shabby as its handling and Turbo power beat most Japanese sedans(which are mainly designed primarily for comfort). But if you want more thrill and joy in the drive, there are some cars which offer higher levels of handling and driving dynamics, one being the Ford Focus, but at RM120k+/- the Preve Turbo can be regarded as having great value. by the way the "fake" feeling i mention is that...the steering does not turn according to the steering wheel...i guess the proper word to use is "responsive" here~~ This post has been edited by terryble: Sep 10 2014, 10:11 PM |
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Sep 12 2014, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Sep 12 2014, 08:27 AM) Had never even bother to try manual mode. Anyway i don't find the steering any heavy as reported. Even my missus feel is light n better than her previous Cefiro ( first gen 6 cylinder model). Well during normal day to day driving, D mode is more than sufficient~~Tried those paddle shifters few times only n never bother with it thereafter. We are just simple casual drivers. My wife don't even know what it is for n she is main driver. I can see many here are enthusiast drivers exploring it in details. For us is just a car n a mode of transport. It is decently reasonably good car. Too high expectation s from it you get dissapointed. But...the tip mode (locked paddle shifting mode) can be really fun to drive with for 1) up / down hill, 2) highway, or 3) when overtaking~~the car is like suddenly woke up when u down shift and RPM goes above 3k~~ especially if u really does enjoy the turbo sound, the acceleration and the solid the engine sound the car give u... not practical during a jam or stop and go situation of coz~~ |
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