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Good reading, very informative. I've learnt a few tricks here

Ask them why a product named 'whey protein' does not has whey protein concentrate as the first and major ingredient?

Why soy isolate was not listed on website as one of the ingredient?

There is no ingredients list on website. This ingredients list is important for a customer to make an informed choice.

You bought their product because it says Whey Protein on their website and product label.

They even try to compare it with optimum whey.
At least ON Whey has whey only.

Thank you. This is very helpful.

yup, it is.
i still have 3 unopened tubes which expires end of this year.

it's not the fault of the seller.
it's the fault of the manufacturer.

it's up to the customer to decide which are the good/bad ones.

is it that hard to learn to read labels?

This post has been edited by janson_kaniaz: Aug 3 2014, 10:19 PM

I suggest you read all the posts before this. someone has answered that. there is a reason why certain aminos are used to spike the protein content and certain are not.

People just love being spoonfed. It's started to piss me off.

Hi DarkLight,so there are none mass gainer on the market that is not guilty of amino spiking?

so even if bber wish to bulk up, is better to use whey protein instead of mass gainers?

Synzo,

There's still hope. Buy any Protein supplement and Pure Maltodextrin separately. Depending on your calorie needs, simply add maltodextrin in your protein shake.

Works for me all the time.

... great read and thanks for the great info ...

Wanted to buy Dymatize Elite Whey in lelong but sold out T_T

I guess mine is good stuff then....

but I saw 2g of glycine out of 100g of protein. Not sure why it's not listed in some other labels.

You don't need maltodextrin. It's overrated. Molecular weight doesn't count for anything. Carbs are carbs.

whaaaatttt ?????!!! Mentally Implodes. Time to replace all carbs in daily macros with ONLY Sodas, Candies, Chocolates and Sugar shots.

They are indeed still the same but amount wise per serving is d different lol

Micronutrients.

LOL. You guys misread my reply by a mile.

I've stumbled upon some feedback on taurine and glycine from MucleTech rep.

Question: "why does phase8 have taurine and glycine listed in the ingredients. Are you guys using this as a cheap filler ingredient?"


"Taurine is the second most abundant free amino acid in muscle after glutamine. While we can make taurine through natural biological pathways, this process is not very active in humans, and dietary supplementation can therefore help. Although not directly incorporated into muscle proteins, taurine can have several important properties including helping with cell-volumization, which research suggests is linked to the promotion of anabolic activity. Research even suggests that taurine may have a role in supporting exercise performance.

Glycine is the simplest of amino acids and is considered non-essential because humans can produce it naturally. Nonetheless, glycine is important for protein synthesis, especially in proteins such as collagen, a major stress-bearing component of connective tissues including ligaments and tendons. Glycine is also important in the natural synthesis of creatine. You can enjoy your Phase8 and know that its designed to keep you in a prolonged anabolic/anti-catabolic state. "