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 Let me teach you how to spot good protein, Supplement sellers "might" hate me

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post Jun 20 2014, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(todak @ Jun 20 2014, 11:11 AM)
Can someone name some protein which has whey protein instead of protein blend as its first ingredient?

Edit: Preferably ones that are relatively "tasty", thanks
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go scan thru each of the protein. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 19 2014, 05:48 PM)
So if you guys see any ADDED TAURINE OR GLYCINE which are NON ESSENTIAL amino acids, chances are your whey protein only has 10 grams of protein compared to 22-24 grams of protein as claimed.
This is how they cheat you with amino spiking so that your scoop of powder has only half the amount stated in the label.
I won't name supplement brands to avoid being sued but I'm sure this article will teach you how to shop smart from now on.
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is this true? so it's better to actually buy 100% whey protein with no other add-on while getting those Amino Acids in seperate package?

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post Jun 21 2014, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(TheEvilMan @ Jun 21 2014, 09:48 AM)
is this true?  so it's better to actually buy 100% whey protein with no other add-on while getting those Amino Acids in seperate package?

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Lol. The guide I gave. Use it.


Added glycine and taurine in there. You don't expect me to review every protein for you right?

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 21 2014, 02:47 PM)
Lol. The guide I gave. Use it.
Added glycine and taurine in there. You don't expect me to review every protein for you right?
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i did read thru, but from the nutri facts, they did state protein as the 1st ingredient as u recommended
however like u suggest if there's added amino acid component means the actual protein is lower but they didn't actually shown it, kind of confuse about this part.
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post Jun 21 2014, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(TheEvilMan @ Jun 21 2014, 02:55 PM)
i did read thru, but from the nutri facts, they did state protein as the 1st ingredient as u recommended
however like u suggest if there's added amino acid component means the actual protein is lower but they didn't actually shown it, kind of confuse about this part.
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all mass gainer and whey product have protein.
its just a matter of what protein.
the protein that we are expected to consume and to exist in such products is proteins that are equivalent to what we get from regular food. protein that contains essential amino acid (protein consisted of many amino acids btw) that arent being produced by our body, needed from outside source, and will be used for growth and repair.
taurine and glycine aka added protein are NOT ESSENTIAL (either being produced by body already or noninvolved in growth and repair).

now which is better:
15g Actual protein + 15g Nonactual protein
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30g Actual protein
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post Jun 21 2014, 05:40 PM

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then herbalife?
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QUOTE(TheEvilMan @ Jun 21 2014, 02:55 PM)
i did read thru, but from the nutri facts, they did state protein as the 1st ingredient as u recommended
however like u suggest if there's added amino acid component means the actual protein is lower but they didn't actually shown it, kind of confuse about this part.
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that's the actual purpose of this thread, ain't it? doh.gif
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post Jun 21 2014, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(xelrix @ Jun 21 2014, 05:37 PM)
all mass gainer and whey product have protein.
its just a matter of what protein.
the protein that we are expected to consume and to exist in such products is proteins that are equivalent to what we get from regular food. protein that contains essential amino acid (protein consisted of many amino acids btw) that arent being produced by our body, needed from outside source, and will be used for growth and repair.
taurine and glycine aka added protein are NOT ESSENTIAL (either being produced by body already or noninvolved in growth and repair).

now which is better:
15g Actual protein + 15g Nonactual protein
vs
30g Actual protein
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jun 21 2014, 05:56 PM)
that's the actual purpose of this thread, ain't it?  doh.gif
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Thanks, i think i kinda get it now, since i'm going to do a little shopping tmr for protein maybe i take a look and change to the suggested choices and see how things go
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post Jun 22 2014, 01:09 AM

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post Jun 22 2014, 05:30 AM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jun 22 2014, 01:09 AM)

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post Jun 22 2014, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jun 22 2014, 01:09 AM)

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QUOTE(xelrix @ Jun 22 2014, 05:30 AM)
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Good one! Consumers are getting smarter and smarter. Unfortunately there are still idiots who buy mass gainers. Lol.
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post Jun 22 2014, 11:43 PM

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I suggest that this topic should be pinned on the stickies. Important info for all.
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post Jun 23 2014, 07:35 AM

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QUOTE(kaspersky-fan @ Jun 22 2014, 11:43 PM)
I suggest that this topic should be pinned on the stickies. Important info for all.
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Yes, for those who don't know, kaps is my friend and training partner. We've been discussing about this but the problem is once it becomes a sticky, people tend to "stop reading important articles like these". They'll just keep making new threads posting the same questions over and over again.
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post Jun 23 2014, 12:05 PM

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Here's another article if you want to read on protein spiking.

http://www.seannal.com/articles/supplement...cid-spiking.php
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post Jun 23 2014, 10:44 PM

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Just see the 3 he recommends.

http://www.seannal.com/articles/supplement...cid-spiking.php

I personally use Dymatize Elite Whey. Best value, high quality and cheap.
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the left picture is from phase 8. almost bought it just now. looks yummy. but better i look the internet first for a good protein.
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post Jun 28 2014, 09:52 PM

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What flavor taste best? Also is it okay to bancuh it with only a little bit of water? Cause last time I tried drinking protein shake it tasted very watery leh...

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post Jun 28 2014, 10:10 PM

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Also is it better to drink protein before or after workout? (I'm guessing it doesnt really matter, does it?)

And how many spoons to put in one drink and how many times do you drink protein one day?

And drink daily or only on workout days (or maybe rest days?)



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QUOTE(sagethesausage @ Jun 28 2014, 10:10 PM)
Also is it better to drink protein before or after workout? (I'm guessing it doesnt really matter, does it?)

And how many spoons to put in one drink and how many times do you drink protein one day?

And drink daily or only on workout days (or maybe rest days?)
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read the sticky. its a great detail, but just a detail. if your nutrition whole day sucks, it doesnt matter.

read the sticky. depends on or lean body weight. and your protein intake from food.

same as above. read the sticky.


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QUOTE(xelrix @ Jun 29 2014, 02:21 AM)
read the sticky. its a great detail, but just a detail. if your nutrition whole day sucks, it doesnt matter.

read the sticky. depends on or lean body weight. and your protein intake from food.

same as above. read the sticky.
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