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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V6!

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post Jul 15 2014, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jul 15 2014, 02:01 AM)
Cut from the RAM and mobo.

The GPU is too dated (pretty much EOLed in the market) and doesn't justify in a set of 5k rig, try to get minimumly a GTX760.

Overall, I won't call it a good specs for a RM5k rig (or I should say RM4k since you spent RM1k+ for the monitor). The stuffs are good/cool/premium but they don't aid in making your rig powerful. It's better focus more punch on the GPU/GPU first b4 concentrating on fancy cool looking RAM/MOBO/CASE/COOLER.

i5 4670k (769)
Asrock Z87 Extreme4 (549)
840 EVO 250GB (559)
8GB Hyper X Fury (289)
GTX760 (799)
Decent Air cooler (200)
Antec/Seasonic PSU (300)
DVD (60)
Monitor (1180)
Speaker (130)
Sub 200 budget case (200)

Total - 5035
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Thanks. Actually I'm looking to build a rig that 1. cost below RM4k excluding monitors 2. good price:performance ratio 3. overclocked and have liquid cooling 4.good looks
Your recommendation looks good, I'll try to list down a system base on that except will be using 4690K instead with Z97 board.

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post Jul 15 2014, 06:55 PM

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Hi i'm new to the current trend of pc building...
please forgive me if i did anything wrong.



PS: some of the parts have already bought.


[Budget] RM2000~RM2500 (Include Monitor) [Will add extra 1.5k if monitor is overbudget ]

[Purpose] Finding the rest of the parts for the whole setup. Unable to decide. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

[Hardwares that will be re-use] List Below already bought
MOBO - Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0
CPU - AMD FX 6350
GPU - Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4GB

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Heavy Gaming mostly Shooting Games and old XP games, also include watching movie.

[Personal preferences] Monitor 24"

[Location] Penang

Thank you for your time and peace~ icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 15 2014, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(grim1989 @ Jul 15 2014, 06:55 PM)
Hi i'm new to the current trend of pc building...
please forgive me if i did anything wrong.
PS: some of the parts have already bought.
[Budget] RM2000~RM2500 (Include Monitor) [Will add extra 1.5k if monitor is overbudget ]

[Purpose] Finding the rest of the parts for the whole setup. Unable to decide. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

[Hardwares that will be re-use] List Below already bought
MOBO - Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0
CPU - AMD FX 6350
GPU - Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4GB

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Heavy Gaming mostly Shooting Games and old XP games, also include watching movie.

[Personal preferences] Monitor 24"

[Location] Penang

Thank you for your time and peace~ icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I assume you are going for a OC built since you opt for an unlocked low mid tier CPU over higher tier newer CPU.

Case - 250
Air cooler - 250
8GB RAM - 300
1TB HDD - 200
128GB SSD - 300
Dell Ultrasharp Monitor - 850
DVD - 60

Subtotal = RM2210.

Since still pretty much budget left, you can either opt for fancier case/cooler or a larger (256GB) SSD.

Alternatively, you can try to sell your current mobo and CPU and opt for a non-OC Intel built and safe some pennies from buying a cooler.

p/s: Just noticed that I missed out the PSU. Get a Antec/Seasonic PSU within your budget.

This post has been edited by Human10: Jul 15 2014, 09:58 PM
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post Jul 15 2014, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(grim1989 @ Jul 15 2014, 06:55 PM)
Hi i'm new to the current trend of pc building...
please forgive me if i did anything wrong.
PS: some of the parts have already bought.
[Budget] RM2000~RM2500 (Include Monitor) [Will add extra 1.5k if monitor is overbudget ]

[Purpose] Finding the rest of the parts for the whole setup. Unable to decide. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

[Hardwares that will be re-use] List Below already bought
MOBO - Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0
CPU - AMD FX 6350
GPU - Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4GB

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Heavy Gaming mostly Shooting Games and old XP games, also include watching movie.

[Personal preferences] Monitor 24"

[Location] Penang

Thank you for your time and peace~ icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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WD Blue 1TB HDD RM174
Plextor M5Pro Extreme 128GB SSD RM329
Cooler Master 690 III case RM299
Thermaltake Water3.0 Pro CPU Cooler RM289
Samsung S24D390HL PLS Monitor RM689
Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Cooler Master V650 80+ Gold PSU PSU RM369

Total - RM2208.00
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post Jul 15 2014, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(a1075 @ Jul 15 2014, 09:10 AM)
Yes. A monitor is needed. Will i3 able to support gaming smoothly? How about i5? Pls advise
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Jul 15 2014, 09:13 AM)
Core i3 is good enough, based on your budget. However, if you can still extend a bit, then the i5 is definitely the better choice here.
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Thx for your advise. How about
Processor: core i5 4460 - rm569
Mainboard: asus b85 pro gamer - rm379
Ram: 4gb pc 1333/1600 8c - rm129
Display card: g-byte gt650 oc 2gb d5 128bit - rm499
Hdd: 1tb sata - rm174
Optical drive: DVD - rm-59
Casing: cm k380 - rm149
Power supply: cooler master elite v2 500w - rm159
Monitor: Samsung s22c170bs - rm359

Any amendment need to be made? Please advise. Thanks all
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post Jul 15 2014, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(a1075 @ Jul 15 2014, 09:17 PM)
Thx for your advise. How about
Processor: core i5 4460 - rm569
Mainboard: asus b85 pro gamer - rm379
Ram: 4gb pc 1333/1600 8c - rm129
Display card: g-byte gt650 oc 2gb d5 128bit - rm499
Hdd: 1tb sata - rm174
Optical drive: DVD - rm-59
Casing: cm k380 - rm149
Power supply: cooler master elite v2 500w - rm159
Monitor: Samsung s22c170bs - rm359

Any amendment need to be made? Please advise. Thanks all
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The parts i suggested is better.. nod.gif That GTX650 is overpriced..same goes to the motherboard.Plus,the PSU isn't that good.. sweat.gif

CPU:Intel Core i3 4150 3.5GHz RM349|Intel Core i5 4440 3.1Ghz RM554
Mobo:Asus H81M-K RM199
GPU:Gainward GTX750 2GB GDDR5 RM386|Sapphire R9 270 Dual-X 2GB GDDR5 RM629
Ram:Corsair Value Ram 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM244 =
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM174 =
PSU:FSP Hexa 500W RM149 =
Casing:CM K380 RM149 =
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59 =
Monitor:Acer K222HQL 21.5' RM359 =
Total:RM2068/RM2516 =
GPU is from Feiton@GS,the rest are from Viewnet@LYP.

This post has been edited by Minecrafter: Jul 15 2014, 09:31 PM
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post Jul 15 2014, 09:53 PM

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HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM174

Usually this HDD is suggested. But what exact model number and specs does it refer to? What's the Buffer Size or Cache?

Update: ok, probably is the one with model no. WD10EZEX? 64 MB Buffer Size?

This post has been edited by chiwee: Jul 15 2014, 10:05 PM
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post Jul 15 2014, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(a1075 @ Jul 15 2014, 09:17 PM)
Thx for your advise. How about
Processor: core i5 4460 - rm569
Mainboard: asus b85 pro gamer - rm379
Ram: 4gb pc 1333/1600 8c - rm129
Display card: g-byte gt650 oc 2gb d5 128bit - rm499
Hdd: 1tb sata - rm174
Optical drive: DVD - rm-59
Casing: cm k380 - rm149
Power supply: cooler master elite v2 500w - rm159
Monitor: Samsung s22c170bs - rm359

Any amendment need to be made? Please advise. Thanks all
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LOL, you add all of them together also breach your stated budget already...

Anyway, opt for cheaper mobo (avoid Asus if you don't have enough budget).

RAM if possible opt for 8GB in a stick, cheaper (per size) and potentially better resale value.

GTX650 is dated and near EOL stuff already, better get GTX750TI.

Some Cooler Master PSU is having bad reputation and questionable reliability. For budget rig, you can opt for FSP/Antec PSU under RM200.

You might want to get a more decent monitor nowadays.
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post Jul 15 2014, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(chiwee @ Jul 15 2014, 09:53 PM)
Usually this HDD is suggested. But what exact model number and specs does it refer to? What's the Interface, Buffer Size, RPM, Cache?
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3.5" WD Blue it is.

Normal consumer use WD HDD only 3 types, Green, Blue and Black.

This post has been edited by Human10: Jul 15 2014, 10:06 PM
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post Jul 15 2014, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jul 15 2014, 10:04 PM)
3.5" WD Blue it is.

Normal consumer use WD HDD only 3 types, Green, Blue and Black.
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But there are so many models under WB Blue category. And 2 of them have 1 TB capacity with different Cache size.
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=770

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post Jul 15 2014, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(chiwee @ Jul 15 2014, 10:09 PM)
But there are so many models under WB Blue category. And 2 of them have 1 TB capacity with different Cache size.
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=770
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Whichever available at the retail store. sweat.gif
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post Jul 15 2014, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jul 15 2014, 10:10 PM)
Whichever available at the retail store. sweat.gif
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really? So I might get the one with 32MB Cache size instead of 64MB one?

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post Jul 15 2014, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(chiwee @ Jul 15 2014, 10:12 PM)
really? So I might get the one with 32MB Cache size instead of 64MB one?
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I doubt if the retail store will carry both models, so whichever available shall do.
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post Jul 15 2014, 10:18 PM

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Hi guys,

I would like to ask a few things here to sifu:

1) Why do people recommend Asrock motherboard over ASUS (I am seeing b85 Pro Gamer for performance + value)
2) I am leaning towards nvidia too. Is it worth the squeeze @ RM 150+ for gtx 760 OC vs the normal
3) DDR 3 1600 vs 1866, does it make a difference in gaming?

thanks
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post Jul 15 2014, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jul 15 2014, 10:18 PM)
Hi guys,

I would like to ask a few things here to sifu:

1) Why do people recommend Asrock motherboard over ASUS (I am seeing b85 Pro Gamer for performance + value)
2) I am leaning towards nvidia too. Is it worth the squeeze @ RM 150+ for gtx 760 OC vs the normal
3) DDR 3 1600 vs 1866, does it make a difference in gaming?

thanks
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1) Because Asus can be seriously overpriced sometimes. And you call B85 Pro Gamer a value at RM379?!?!? shocking.gif I wondering what do you feel so value about it. hmm.gif
2) 150 is quite a big percentage of RM800 already. Chance are you won't even get as much performance increase as the increase in price. If you willing to spend, might as well get a R9 280x, IINM cheapest one cost around 1k only.
3) The differences are minimal to non.


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post Jul 15 2014, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jul 15 2014, 10:18 PM)
Hi guys,

I would like to ask a few things here to sifu:

1) Why do people recommend Asrock motherboard over ASUS (I am seeing b85 Pro Gamer for performance + value)
2) I am leaning towards nvidia too. Is it worth the squeeze @ RM 150+ for gtx 760 OC vs the normal
3) DDR 3 1600 vs 1866, does it make a difference in gaming?

thanks
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Price/performance.. icon_idea.gif And how is the Asus B85 Gamer performance + value?Asrock B85 Killer is more or less the same..but cheaper,at RM299.. brows.gif icon_idea.gif

Yeah.Zotac GTX760 AMP! 2GB GDDR5 RM869 from GBros.. brows.gif



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post Jul 15 2014, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jul 15 2014, 10:18 PM)
Hi guys,

I would like to ask a few things here to sifu:

1) Why do people recommend Asrock motherboard over ASUS (I am seeing b85 Pro Gamer for performance + value)
It is priced reasonably compared to other brands like Asus, Gigabyte or MSI. That's why I usually recommend them. wink.gif
2) I am leaning towards nvidia too. Is it worth the squeeze @ RM 150+ for gtx 760 OC vs the normal
Basically, the extra RM150 is paid for a non-reference cooling solution, which cools better and is also quieter. Also, it's also factory overclocked for a minor performance boost compared to reference version.
3) DDR 3 1600 vs 1866, does it make a difference in gaming?
The difference is very minimal to say the least.

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post Jul 15 2014, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jul 15 2014, 10:27 PM)
Price/performance.. icon_idea.gif And how is the Asus B85 Gamer performance + value?Asrock B85 Killer is more or less the same..but cheaper,at RM299.. brows.gif  icon_idea.gif

Yeah.Zotac GTX760 AMP! 2GB GDDR5 RM869 from GBros.. brows.gif


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Which shop you found the H97 Plus at RM379? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jul 15 2014, 10:32 PM)
Which shop you found the H97 Plus at RM379? hmm.gif
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IdealTech.
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jul 15 2014, 10:37 PM)
IdealTech.
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That price is more OK compared to other Asus, LEL.

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