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post May 16 2014, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Noellau @ May 16 2014, 03:37 PM)
Once again, I would like to thank all the sifu here for fast reply and recommendation. Finally, I have built my own rigs after so many years. It is really excited moment to switch on this beast compare to my laptop last time!  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  Just to share the spec that I bought!

Intel i5-4440
MSI B85-G43
Corsair Vengeance 4GB*2
WD 1tB blue
LIteon 24x sata DVD
Zotac GTX780ti AMP edition
Seasonic M12II modular 850W (The shop keep asking me to take 850W instead of 620W)
Asus Wireless PCI-E card
Corsair spec-03 with white LED light
Dell S2340L
Logitech G105
Reuse: Samsung evo 840 120GB

I feel like getting some LED fans becoz it so dark inside the casing.. maybe I do it next time whistling.gif
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850W PSU, it gonna be pricy. sweat.gif

But it do provide the ability to SLI/crossfire practically every 2 cards out there, though you need a better mobo for that. nod.gif

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post May 16 2014, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 16 2014, 03:54 PM)
AMD is going to release a card to challenge GTX780Ti and Titan Black.. brows.gif  icon_idea.gif
http://www.techpowerup.com/200721/amd-to-l...gtx-780-ti.html
You should've gone for 620W.. sweat.gif
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I bet it gonna be another leaf blower or oven... sweat.gif
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post May 16 2014, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(persona93 @ May 16 2014, 04:06 PM)
like this when can upgrade weii  cry.gif
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This year end/next Q1, terus grab Haswell-E CPU, DDR4 and X89 mobo. brows.gif
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post May 17 2014, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 16 2014, 08:30 PM)
Lol. I got multiple buddies with 15-25k builds. All mostly for looks and branding. To be honest, anything more than 2 GPUs is a joke. So is buying overpriced Mobos and RAM.
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Actually my dream is to set up a rig with 8 RAM slots and fill in all slots with 8GB (or DDR4 should be higher).

64GB (or more) of RAM
such memory
many channel
much bandwidth
very fast
so RAMdisk

wow
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post May 17 2014, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 17 2014, 02:04 AM)
You crazy.
So overkill.
Much money.
Wow.

Hahaha on a serious note, that thing is gonna be so expensive it'll make high GPUs look like a joke.
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Apart from the SWAG factor, you get to humiliate SSD and put HDD into oblivion, it is well worth every pennies. brows.gif
Not to mention the chance and time for it to become obsolete by successors are probably much lower (time longer) than SSD.
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post May 17 2014, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ May 17 2014, 02:48 AM)
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btw ram disk are a bad idea.
we normally set it as a junction to always backup in a hdd.

but once in a while forgot or hdd/ssd a bit slow on the backup and u forgot and shutdown..

tested last time on friends 64gb 2400mhz. we were trying to speed up encoding etc. Imagine we lost a huge chunk of a HEVC encode of his work.
He was doing 4k editing for a wedding shoot. 8 hours of work gone..

PCIE bandwidth is much bigger so just wait for thunderbolt 2 controllers...
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Yeah, I do get that no matter how fast your stuffs move in RAMdisk, you gonna backup it to da slow HDD also in the end. tongue.gif
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post May 17 2014, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 17 2014, 11:58 AM)
Eh your WC Kit are still in the YouAs.. laugh.gif :-P
Idk much about RAMDisk. sweat.gif  doh.gif
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Treat it like SSD on steroid. icon_idea.gif
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post May 17 2014, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(chang3rd @ May 17 2014, 05:12 PM)
Hi guys !

Since Microsoft has ended support for XP, wanted to get a new rig for my parents.
Need some suggestions.

Budget: ~RM1000
Purposed: Light surfing, occasional scanning/word processing/printing
Hardwares that will be re-use: Maybe two HDD but planning to get a new one for fresh install (SSD?)
Monitor resolution: Forgot, but got cheap LCD monitor
Games & softwares that use frequently: Google chrome, MS Word
Personal preferences: Don't need GC can right ? Need optical drive.
Location: Can go to Lowyat
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You can actually consider Intel NUC, nice AIO package for light computing.

And I don't think you can get genuine Windows OS together with SSD within that budget.

This is a rough estimation for the cost needed.
CPU - 180
Mobo - 180
RAM - 130
DVD - 60
Cheap CASE + PSU - 100+
OS - 180+ (windows 7 starter, better get at least home)
SSD - 280+

Minimum total = 1110

Optional:
wireless card - 12+


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post May 18 2014, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(persona93 @ May 18 2014, 12:08 AM)
which is better in terms of money for performance

R9295X2 or the GTX780??

Sorry if I'm not asking a recommendation question (soon I will) in a recommendation thread tongue.gif
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I assume you are asking 295x2 vs 780x2?

295 should be similar or on par with 290x and 780TI.

And since 780TI > 780, no doubt 295x2 > 780x2 > 780
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QUOTE(NeverX3 @ May 18 2014, 11:00 AM)
I need a GPU now, but not so powderful first  laugh.gif

I mean a rig around RM1500 including a cukup-makan GPU  laugh.gif
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If you need a dedicated GPU, then can't fit i5 (better CPU as you stated) in your budget. Also, the Intel HD 4600 is more than enough for most (if not all) light gaming.

IMO, if you plan to upgrade in future, it is better to get a more powerful CPU without dedicated GPU for now than getting a weaker CPU and weaker GPU. For the former, you just need to add in a GPU, no money is lose. For the latter, you need to undergo the hassle of selling both CPU and GPU (at depreciation) and spend more to get a better CPU and GPU.
QUOTE(NeverX3 @ May 18 2014, 09:16 AM)
[Budget]: Around RM1500

[Purpose]: Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]: Needs the rig only. Re-using my old DVD-Drive.

[Monitor resolution]: Full HD, 1920*1080.

[Games & softwares that use frequently]: osu!, LoL, google chrome. (might play heavier games in the future  tongue.gif )

[Personal preferences]: Try to stick with Intel  sweat.gif

[Location]: KL area. Can visit Lowyat plaza no problem.

So far light gaming only. If possible can get a better CPU. Probably will upgrade to a better Graphic Card after this when I play games a lot  brows.gif
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QUOTE(bingding @ May 18 2014, 02:00 PM)
so what would be the best ssd if i wanna buy a ssd around rm3++ budget.
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Samsung for speed, Intel for reliability and warranty.
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post May 19 2014, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(eugenelimys @ May 19 2014, 02:02 AM)
Can you guys give me some rig suggestions based on, GTX780Ti and 4770K (or any Quad core) ? Budget as low as possible?
um.. I am thinking of playing Black Desert Online thou doh.gif
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Mind tell why you pin point that 2 parts first? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(eugenelimys @ May 19 2014, 02:22 AM)
The system requirements for BDO
http://steparu.com/images/0314/bdo/pcspec.jpg
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It is an online game, I don't expect it to be much demanding on specs, since they profit from larger players base, so they will tend to keep the barrier as low as possible.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ May 19 2014, 03:08 AM)
I would build this.
Czone Pricing. U most probably can get cheaper. And Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Superclocked-Du...s=evga+gtx780ti

4790k - 1079
Thermalright Venomous X Black +Corsair SP120x2 = 299+145 = 344
Maximus VII Gene - 799
Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400 C10 2x8gb - RM1099
EVGA 780ti Superclocked Reference Cooler - USD669 + Expedited Shipping etc = RM2618.35
WD Green 4tb - RM525 (U cannot run Blacks in this casing. Its requires active cooling)
Corsair Neutron GTX240gb X2 Raid 0= 759x2=1518 (err price drop.. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif )
Corsair AXi760 + Corsair Indivudually Sleeved Red  - RM679 + 335 + 110=1123
Silverstone FT03+ Corsair AF120 x 3 = 569+99x3 = 766

RM9871.35. Uber rig.

CPU OC.
Should be able to clock up to 4.4ghz or more if rumours are true..(hint hoping 4.8ghz.) ( prep incase another 1-2k to buy 2 more procs to find a good one. and make a lost like 250-300 on each)
GPU OC
780ti with Skyn3t bios.. should be able to do 1150mhz-1200mhz. u can push it more to 340-350 watts on the card in this casing with the fan config i mentioned but only one card and u can forget sli with the limited PSU. Future SLI on heavy OC u may want to look in maybe a Asus m7 Hero with Silverstone FT02 with a AX860 min.
GAMING
Gaming up to 1440. on most settings maxed out on most games on good AA settings. But with the overclock u can nudge geforce optimal setting by 1-2 depending on the game.
And u can carry this anywhere and sli the card. Reference models on that in the future will be hard as other than evga all other manufacturers stop producing reference as the cost of the cooler is very expensive.
RAMS
Ram settings. On auto should be fine but if u want 1t, tighter RTLs and consistent performance to get value on buying a ROG mobo.. can teach ya if u bring to asus lan party.
FAN
btw i am not sure about those fans being pwm controllable. but they should be and u can control it via the mobo. actually i'd prefer noiseblockers but shipping them here.. u will get taxed.
DVD/Blu-Ray
DVD.. err ppl still use these.??. high speed internet and steam/origin.
24/7 and I dare chop this as Stable Build.
u can leave this rig on 24/7 no issue. with good c-states fan settings.. ure cpu will be on low power, and cool and silent.
Recommendation
Also recommend considering Zotac GTX TItan Black rather than the 780ti. for more uber MSAA settings and u most probably can buy them in the future for sli in reference cooler rather than 780tis.

Gambate.
Uber rig yo
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Can't declare the fan as PC parts?

BTW, taobao also got, and the chance to get tax is pretty low.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r....&id=16407537217

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 19 2014, 03:17 AM)
Aaaaaaaand the definition of overkill shows up. Hahahahhahahaha. Dude 5.5k budget yo.
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Actually he didn't specify budget, just state that the lower the better.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ May 19 2014, 03:22 AM)
He wanted overclocking
Didnt know he stated a budget.

Dude i do overclocks on seriously pure performance rig.
Not semi stable or crap etc..

Rigs that will seriously last on a 24/7 basis. Heck i dare even to chop them and give warranty and guarantees if i build them. Doubt any other system builders here would. Will push it to the last voltage on no air cond enviroment.

This is what u need and this is what it cost.
Any other than this. Will try to be in the asus lan event. Ppl can bring me their rigs.. let me bsod it.

telling the rig above can do it.
it will kick ass alot of wc rig here also.
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Chill bro, take a look again, he just want to play his online game, not super hardcore OC... sweat.gif
QUOTE(eugenelimys @ May 19 2014, 02:02 AM)
Can you guys give me some rig suggestions based on, GTX780Ti and 4770K (or any Quad core) ? Budget as low as possible?
um.. I am thinking of playing Black Desert Online thou doh.gif
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QUOTE(NeverX3 @ May 19 2014, 08:56 AM)
I can understand what you mean  smile.gif

So can I get a not bad CPU (assume i5?) with a "so-so" GPU with this budget? I don't mind adding a little budget on top of RM1500  laugh.gif

EDIT: I don't mind playing LoL in a lower graphic detail at the moment though. Since it's also not a GPU-hungry game I think?  sweat.gif
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My point is there isn't really a need for "so-so" GPU, since you can just utilize the Intel's built in graphic, save money and get better mobo or more RAM.

i5 4440 (580)
Asrock B85/H97 (300/330)
4/8GB RAM (120/230)
Antec VP550 (200)
Budget case (150)
WD Blue 1TB (190)

In this way, you doesn't compromise other parts for the sake of getting "so-so" GPU which you still gonna upgrade in future if you really want to play graphic intensive games at high details in future.

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QUOTE(eugenelimys @ May 19 2014, 05:00 AM)
[Budget] as low as posssiiiibbbbrrrruuuuuuu

[Purpose] GAMING!! aiming for BDO

[Hardwares that will be re-use] SSD/HDD if I have to..

[Monitor resolution] 1080p?

[Games & softwares that use frequently]

[Personal preferences]Need monitor, speakers no need, using headphones, 4770K if possible or any quad core to maximize gaming, 780Ti if possible or are there any cheaper alternatives that is as good or nearly as good

[Location]Taipei
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Good, their GTX 780TI should be marginally cheaper than here, and more brands like EVGA and Galaxy are available there unlike in bolehland. sweat.gif
Reference 780TI
http://24h.pchome.com.tw/prod/DRAD16-A83894882?q=/S/DRAD16

Non-ref 780TI
http://24h.pchome.com.tw/prod/DRAD16-A81317848?q=/S/DRAD16

Cheap RAM
http://24h.pchome.com.tw/prod/DRAC3G-A59308326?q=/S/DRAC3G

Or if you prefer performance RAM
http://24h.pchome.com.tw/prod/DRAC3G-A82398114?q=/S/DRAC3G
http://24h.pchome.com.tw/prod/DRAL03-A78773105?q=/S/DRAL0U

A decent and nicely priced PSU, recommended if you plan to SLI your GPU in future
http://24h.pchome.com.tw/prod/DRAE25-A75252559?q=/S/DRAE25

Else, this should do
http://24h.pchome.com.tw/prod/DRAE1Y-A81065255?q=/S/DRAE2E

For monitor, I not sure what size you want, but here is a 27"
http://24h.pchome.com.tw/prod/DSAB03-A81666869?q=/S/DSAB1C

But again, back to the very first question, I doubt that those game actually utilize powerful CPU/GPU... It's recommendation only GTX650. If the graphic quality is limited by the game itself, powerful CPU/GPU can do nothing but only pushing the FPS to a higher level (60FPS is more than enough for most ppl and monitor), without any meaningful gain.

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QUOTE(eugenelimys @ May 19 2014, 03:32 PM)
thanks.. :3 but Quad vs Dual... Is the impact a lot? doh.gif
I dont really insist on 4770K but um... idk... from what I head, Quad cores > Dual cores a lot.. so yea... It doesnt have to be 4770K xD
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i5 (desktop) also quad core...
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QUOTE(y4ng @ May 19 2014, 03:54 PM)
Hello again,

I am looking for GTX 760, but what brands should be good? there's so many of them...from zotac to msi to gainward hmm
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Cheapest with long and reliable warranty should do.

But if you plan to SLI dem in future, can consider getting the 4GB one, else 2GB is fine.

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