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SUSsylar111
post Oct 21 2014, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Oct 21 2014, 03:55 PM)
hahaha.... you think i use evil spirit ? Why should i use evil spirit ? it's an abomination...

to deal with Christian, which is protected by Jesus himself, is to ask Jesus to deal with you. Because GOD chasten the one HE loves, so i assumed HE loves you enough to chasten you. Suprise ? considering the damage you are doing here + Churches that you screwed up...
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Another verse for you.
2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
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post Oct 21 2014, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Oct 21 2014, 04:01 PM)
let me tell you a true story which happened to my friend when he was young and he already accepted Christ,
when he was sleeping 1 night as usual with his mother beside him. he was attacked by the Evil spirit the evil spirit choked him that he hardly can breath until his mother wake him up......

when you are saying when you accepted Christ, you are not definitely protected against Evil Spirit sometimes God test us in many ways also he give us the way out
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If that's the case,
he should question whether he really has the holy spirit in him.
A person who has the holy spirit in him will be protected against demons.

21 When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace. 22 But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him, he takes from him all his armor in which he trusted, and divides his spoils. 23 He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters.
An Unclean Spirit Returns
24 “When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ 25 And when he comes, he finds it swept and put in order. 26 Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first.”

When a person does not have the holy spirit in him, even if the demons are chased away, they will come back again.
When a person has the holy spirit in him. Demons or evil spirits cannot occupy the body anymore.

Unless you are implying that evil spirits are more powerful then the Holy Spirit.

This post has been edited by sylar111: Oct 21 2014, 04:14 PM
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post Oct 21 2014, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Oct 21 2014, 04:05 PM)
i do not get you bro pehkay?
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Sorry, I meant a demon possession case when the person being possessed can debate and discuss Bible verses.
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post Oct 21 2014, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Oct 21 2014, 04:07 PM)
Sorry, I meant a demon possession case when the person being possessed can debate and discuss Bible verses.
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oh ok, this is first time i heard such thing smile.gif
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post Oct 21 2014, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Oct 21 2014, 04:07 PM)
oh ok, this is first time i heard such thing smile.gif
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Satan and his forces knows the Bible very well and he uses the word of God to condemn and accuse the believers.

The moment any Christians is fooled into accepting that condemnation, it open doors for attack.

I'm seeing the same thing happening here.
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post Oct 21 2014, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Oct 21 2014, 04:07 PM)
oh ok, this is first time i heard such thing smile.gif
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Yeah, but the most interesting testimony I heard was when a brother visited this case (it was referred by a group of brothers there) ....

He knew Jessie Penn Lewis's testimony or that she picked up the principle from the Brethren, demon extremely hated the fact, "that Christ came in the flesh".

So he began to ask the demon on Christ coming in the flesh and asking it to declare it.

That really revealed its true face, and the person possessed, changed from a "gentlemen-tally" personae into a violent one .... Though I can't remember how it was cast out.

Anyway, an interesting story.

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post Oct 21 2014, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Oct 21 2014, 04:05 PM)
Another verse for you.
2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
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why should i bother with your verse ? dear rejected child lol
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post Oct 21 2014, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Oct 21 2014, 04:05 PM)
i do not get you bro pehkay?
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Obviously refering to me.
Opps. Someone is getting desperate.
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2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

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post Oct 21 2014, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Oct 21 2014, 04:13 PM)
Yeah, but the most interesting testimony I heard was when a brother visited this case (it was referred by a group of brothers there) ....

He knew Jessie Penn Lewis's testimony or that she picked up the principle from the Brethren, demon extremely hated the fact, "that Christ came in the flesh".

So he began to ask the demon on Christ coming in the flesh and asking it to declare it.

That really revealed its true face, and the person possessed, changed from a "gentlemen-tally" personae into a violent one .... Though I can't remember how it was cast out.

Anyway, an interesting story.

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Yes, because that is liberation and Salvation for the believers. They hate that very much.
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post Oct 21 2014, 04:18 PM

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Bible Devotions with UW

How Many times must Christ die?
The answer is only Once and the Bible says Once for all.
It can never be repeated.

But what is the effect? Is it temporal ramification like the offerings of Bulls and Goats like in the old testament?
Is it temporal until your next sins? Is it temporal based on your knowledge of sins and is it temporal based on your act of righteousness?

The answer is No. Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world as in the explanation of the words in Hebrews 9:26.

Let us tackle one by one according to scripture.

Does the blood of Christ offers temporal redemption?
Meaning to Say that, it covers only until your next sin?

The Answer is No;

Hebrews 9:12
He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, thus obtaining eternal redemption.
Eternal means it's always cleansing, 24/7 eternal redemption.

Is it based on our knowledge of sins? Some people say you have to confess every single you've ever committed otherwise you ain't going to Heaven. Sounds familiar in the Christian circle right?
Search the scripture, you will find no such statement in the Bible. What does the Bible says?

Ephesians 1:7-10
In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace that he lavished on us. With all wisdom and understanding, he made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ, to be put into effect when the times reach their fulfillment--to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ.

Look and see and understand it is not according to your knowledge but according to God's Rich GRACE, God's Wisdom and understanding and God's GOOD pleasure. All according to God not of you. Why? Because God the father knows, if it's according to you, it's not secure but if it's according to God's wisdom and understand IT IS ETERNAL security! Hallelujah!

When Jesus died at the cross, He echoed this truth statement. Watch this now, this is going to be powerful and a blessing and GREAT revelation for you.

He says this:"Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." Jesus put ALL OF US under the redemption of sins of ignorance. I say this again.  Jesus put ALL OF US under the redemption of sins of ignorance. Under the old covenant Law, anyone who sins in ignorant, the Priest shall make atonement before God on behalf of the sinner.  The sinner have lay his hand on the head of the unblemished sacrifice and when the sacrifice is consumed in the fire, the divine exchange take place. The unblemished or purity of the sacrifice goes to the sinner, the sin of the sinner goes into the sacrifice. That is the Old Covenant.

Under the New Covenant. Who is our priest? or shall I say who is our High Priest? Who is our Sacrificial Lamb?

The word of the Living God declares:

Hebrews 7:17

“You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek.”a

Why is this important?

The following verse explains it clearly:

22 Because of this oath, Jesus has become the guarantor of a better covenant.

23 Now there have been many of those priests, since death prevented them from continuing in office; 24 but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood. 25Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them.

Do you see the word there guarantee? What does guarantee means? Think about it. God himself guaranteeing our Salvation. When the son sets you free you are free indeed! When God guarantees it is unshakable!

And more than that, Because Jesus has permanent priest hood in the order of Mezhizedek, He is able to gives you eternal redemption = eternal Salvation = eternal Security!

All according to scripture! What a revelation!
Is it based on our acts of Righteousness?

No. What does the Bible says?

Romans 5:19 (NIV) says

For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
Who is that One Man? Our Lord Jesus Christ! What is the context? Righteousness!

What is the relevance? Justification for Salvation.

So in conclusion. Is our Salvation Secured? The answer is yes. Why?

Because it is God himself who guarentees it, He provides it according to God's Rich GRACE, God's Wisdom and understanding and God's GOOD pleasure. He is the one who provided the perfect and sinless Sacrificial Lamb (our Lord Jesus). He is the eternal High Priest permanent. Permanent here means permanently able to SAVE!
And according to our Lord's obedience we ARE MADE RIGHTEOUS!

All of and about God nothing about us.

HALLELUJAH!
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It 'appears' still that you still preach no need of repentance because we are saved eternally by grace of God. i stand to be corrected if i have interpret you wrongly here.
I agree salvation is by the grace of God alone.

Hoowever, without faith it is impossible to please God.
Without faith, you have no access to saving grace.

Romans 10
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8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Once saved, ALWAYS saved?

It appears you are saying that to mean that God requires nothing from us except an initial assent to the message that God has saved us through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. No effort is required from our side to enter or to remain in God's favor.

If this is the case, it would have been nice for Jesus, Paul, Peter or one of the other apostles to just come out and say this explicitly. But they never do. Instead we get Jesus saying things like, "24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able." (Luke 13:24). We get Paul saying, "Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed–not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence–continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling," (Philippians 2:12). And we get Peter advocating care about our calling and election to salvation, "10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:"
Indeed, if Peter uses the word fall, there is indeed a chance where we will fall.
And fall/depart away from the faith which essentially is apostasia.

1 tim 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

tells us that some will depart from the faith, apostasia.

Therefore a warning

12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

Lets us therefore

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7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Oct 21 2014, 03:52 PM)
The kingdom which Jesus will be ruling during the milleanium at the second coming.
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i think that kingdom in the millennium will be made up of Jews and gentiles.
Some gentile will still come to the Lord in that time whereas the Jews will acknowledge Him in greater numbers than now.

Rev 20
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

there will be a resurrection of the dead saints to reign with Jesus.
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Why so much intense fighting le? When want to stop?

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Oct 21 2014, 04:27 PM)
Why so much intense fighting le?
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That's why le. They should ask themselves, that includes Mr Jul.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 21 2014, 04:28 PM)
That's why le.  They should ask themselves, that includes Mr Jul.
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post Oct 21 2014, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Oct 21 2014, 04:15 PM)
Obviously refering to me.
Opps. Someone is getting desperate.
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2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
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nobody is referring to you, would you MIND TO Stop this mindless attack against everyone? you have anger problem go for counseling!
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 21 2014, 04:29 PM)
Only when Truth is compromised.
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Truth is on the side of Grace.

We access it via Faith.

One moment you agree that Salvation is God's Grace alone then you contradict yourself saying why no effort required from us.

Do you see the contradiction?


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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Oct 21 2014, 04:33 PM)
nobody is referring to you, would you MIND TO Stop this mindless attack against everyone? you have anger problem go for counseling!
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I was wondering who is trying to kill him. laugh.gif
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post Oct 21 2014, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Oct 21 2014, 04:27 PM)
Why so much intense fighting le? When want to stop?
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bro, not that we do not want to stop but sylar keep on attacking us, we try to correct him he pointing fingers on us
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Oct 21 2014, 04:33 PM)
nobody is referring to you, would you MIND TO Stop this mindless attack against everyone? you have anger problem go for counseling!
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De Luffy, if you think he was not saying that against me, you are very naive.
But then this is not surprising at all.

NVM, this is indeed a place of discovery. Just for the sake of undermining someone else, any tactics can be used.

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 21 2014, 04:29 PM)
Only when Truth is compromised.
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Mr jul, allow me to share what i think UW has in his mind. Because UW and I mostly has same point of view.

UW talks legal point of view. Once saved always saved. my wife always my wife unless divorced.

But there is also relationship point of view. must be build every day. every week i have to date my wife just to rekindle our love.



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