Hi... it's good to see another God's Kingdom established around PJ

btw i have few questions 

1. I am indonesian. what's the church relationships with GKDI ? i mean, GKDI mentor u or u mentor GKDI, or both of u part of ICOC ? or something else ? kindly enlight
2. I think the singapore link is not working... should be http://seachurchesmedia.org/seachurches/ rite ?

ahh... you post at 6PM lahhh and now already 8PM, i think i wanna try wednesday 8PM service next week. I hope it's english service...

currently for non sunday service i have only city harvest (near PJ) which is saturday. now i have wednesday 8PM service options. will try next week...

Bible Devotions with UW

Salvation of God is complete! Part 1

Cure for Loneliness John 4:13-14 (NIV)  Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”
John 10:10 is a very famous scripture verse that every Christians knows by heart. It's talking about in the context of Eternal Life (Salvation).
Today I'm here to reveal that this Life Jesus talks about is complete Salvation. The word Life in the Greek use in John 10:10 is zōēn (ζωὴν).

According to Strong's Concordance, the definition is both of physical (present) and of spiritual (particularly future) existence.
So it's not only pertaining to Eternal Life in Heaven but also Life HERE NOW on earth.

Jesus came to give you Complete life of Salvation but Satan also came to steal life from you.
and Many people have broken life, Scarred and broken hearted.

In Jeremiah 2:13, the word of God tells us that the things we seek in this world cannot fill that emptiness.
Jeremiah 2:13 (NIV) - "My people have committed two sins: They have forsaken me, the spring of living water, and have dug their own cisterns, broken cisterns that cannot hold water.

That is why the Samaritan Woman at the well (John 4) had 5 husbands and Yet it didn't fulfill her life, as evidence, the 6th Man in her life wasn't even her husband. (John 4:18).
John 4:13(NIV) Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again.

Jesus offered the Samaritan Woman Spring of Living Water that can fulfill her emptiness completely.
Friends. Only God can fill your emptiness. If you feel this message is for you, you can take the word in John 4:14 to heart in meditation and simple prayer.

John 4:14 (NIV) but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”

All you have to do is this simple prayer by Inviting Jesus to come into your life.
Jesus Christ can cure your loneliness and emptiness.  And Many have lived that testimony.

God Bless.

“As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love. If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love. I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete. (‭John‬ ‭15‬:‭9-11‬ NIV)

love + obey = joy.
we want joy but a lot of time the joy didn't come into our mind when we think of obey. Jesus said that we need to keep the command (obey) so that joy will be in us. we have a community and Christian around us will speak the truth (it could be hurting us and create conflict). their truth is something we NEED to hear unlike those worldly friend that speak only the truth that we WANT or PLEASED to hear. yes, the truth is painful and unpleasant but they speak the truth in love. by acknowledge and obey the truth spoken by disciples that truly love us, the joy will with us.

Perfume and incense bring joy to the heart, and the pleasantness of a friend springs from their heartfelt advice. (‭Proverbs‬ ‭27‬:‭9‬ NIV)

The singapore link is broken. What I mean is this:

goto http://www.malaysiachurch.org/
You will have menu home, about us, blogs & news, tithing & giving, sermons, calender, contact us, links

Go to menu links, which is:
1. Under the word God known.
2. On the left of Contact Us.

You will find singapore, indonesia, korea, japan, ICOC hot news, disciples today, useful links.

The link singapore is not working.

Thanks for the invitation, much appreciated.

Hi Bro, u teach the Bible as well? was reading your sig.

maybe we can learn from each other.

Church is dying man... we are way too educated to rely on church for our salvation. They hv long been irrelevant to me. Though i still attend church sometime.

Yeap true true. Chuch is good for education though.  For those lacking knowledge. So we need still to donate to chruch for those who perform good works in church. Thats another reason i go to church.

Its just perception man... outwardly they look big and strong. But are trully Gods people? Or their numbers become a reason for them to boast about?

I feel no such desire to do that. Chruch must not give a false belief to people that they can be saved simply by being active or a part in chruch  and its activities.

Ngai, Sonido is catholic background. Sonido also still learning about Holy Spirit. i have some conversation with him in this forum you can check backward few pages to get sonido point of view.

Sonido, if i were wrong about above conclusion so sorreyyy...

its not just that, church people are not as what they market themselves to be. You go to some mega churches, they advertise on the big screen how fun they are...even play the video...do some flash dance etc etc. But when you join their ministries, u start to notice their ugly side...bickerings, politics, favortims, abuse of funds, backstabbing.

there is this botak christian so-called friend, i cut him off. He used to request for my accounting knowledge to help him in his ministries. He even ask me to pray together with him to find a job. I been there for him, when he was in trouble, and my biggest regret was to teach him my top secret winning formula in a job interview !

then when he got his job, he became lan see. At the church, got one old auntie was attracted to him, but he rejected her and criticized her, even became sore and bitter at her because she tried to pursue him. He think he so dam high standard. Come on, man...a girl like u, u dun like, then dun layan lah, but he got his whole cg, to boycott her because he is the boss, the cg leader. The auntie cried and left...what a cruel CG leader...he himself think he so hansom, purposelly want to kao all the girls half his age..but they know he is a mid 30 year old uncle who practice favortism.

then got one time, i ask him out to yam cha...he literally FFK on me. I was mad...none of my non-christian fren ever do this to me, not even my dates with my female friends. I scolded him and he turned up..then a small disucssion over cell group multiplication, he got mad for no reason, got offended so easily, walked out.

this is so disgraceful behaviour. Sometime i yam cha with him, i really want to slap him, because he criticize other christians and he thinks he so dam great. I wonder if he would condemn me behind my back too because i shared some stuff with him which i regretted thinking that he is trustworthy.

I realise that some christians tend to wanna be the whistleblower show off...so they will RAT on you. So never share any secret with a fellow christian.

There are two other christians that i trust, my real brother in flesh and my other best friend whom i have known for 14 years.

But this botak guy, i really cut him off, no yee hei one...even worst than a non christian in terms of friendship.

For some reason  I feel irritated/uncomfortable when a person praise/pray/cry out loudly to the Lord. I also don't like the majority of modern Christian music. That always made me wonder if that a sign I'm not geniune. Genuine Christians should be super happy with anything about God

Right?

I like old fashioned hymns though. Or no issue. Not sure what to say anymore.

aha.... so i assume you like hymn great is thy faithfulness ? my favorite song

too bad these youngsters probably don't know this song.

i liked hymns too as there is a meaning behind the all hymns, like it is well with my soul is written by a father who losses his childrens in freak ferry accident and as he grieve for them he wrote those song

i am very curious about certain hymns that lead me to find out the source of the hymn story

for example Amazing Grace hymn is written by a blind person

yes no church is perfect. and no negative impression or bad experiences on my part. however some churches or organizations who go about boasting of miracles and healings and doing concerts/conventions here and there i am wary of. and true most people require community to support their faith, i am not, not because i want to boast far from it. God provides many options or ways for us to get close to Him. this will be our own initiative, so our relationships to God are each unique and personal.

i must add prayers are a must.

the challenging part is me keeps forgetting Him. this i vow not to do again, after all many instances in my life where only when im in trouble did i seek God, and He never dissapoints me. I trully regret my insolence. so want to make a vow, though i don't know how strong my vow is.. im weak afterall.