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prophetjul
post Oct 9 2014, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Oct 9 2014, 11:24 AM)
They both Christian? I tot Christian shouldn't divorce unless  for marital unfaithfulness
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You are right.

Its a grievous sin to divorce and re-marry.


A major problem with the world's perception of marriage is that of the Hollywood marriage, the happily ever after type.
Christians alike has been brain washed by Hollywood about love and marriage.

In the scripture, God shows us about the Godly covenant of marriage.

In the beginning..........God ordained marriage.....that a man should leave his father and mother to become ONE with his wife.
In ancient jewish marriages, they are arranged marriages.

One does not fall in love.
One learns how to nurture love with your partner.

Scripture shows how God and His marriage covenant with Israel runs on in spite of Israel's adulterous relationships and disobedience.
God never gives her up. Till this day waits for her.


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post Oct 9 2014, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Oct 9 2014, 02:29 PM)
Yes I believe nowadays christians are too emphasize on looking at other people's faults when finding life partners and not looking at ourselves inwardly. We should check our heart to see if we have lost that glimmer of love that we first had when we accepted christ. Sometimes its easy to forget when we are too busy in ministry work until we grieve other brothers with our own words and actions.
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You'll be surprise when I say this.

Some Christians are put into leadership position in Church because they know who to pray with the right words, been in Church for many years, know all the Church jargon and politics but hardly spend time personal time with God. There's a lot of difference there. Some people will say they are pious or spiritual but not IMO.

I don't believe for a moment if the said couple have truly seek God's will in finding the right partner will end up in divorce. To me there's no such thing.

The very fact that they are fault finding already shows they don't understand what is Love.

How can you be a leader if you don't understand the basic details of the thing you are to practice? Know what I mean?
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post Oct 9 2014, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Oct 9 2014, 03:15 PM)
Its not a sin to divorce and remarry, if the other partner was caught red handed having an affair with another person.
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wat happened to your maniackam123 a/c bro? kena ban arrrr?!! laugh.gif
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post Oct 9 2014, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(14-9-2015 @ Oct 9 2014, 03:20 PM)
wat happened to your maniackam123 a/c bro? kena ban arrrr?!!  laugh.gif
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haha that's what I suspected as well.

Seeing his complain so detail.

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post Oct 9 2014, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Oct 9 2014, 03:15 PM)
Its not a sin to divorce and remarry, if the other partner was caught red handed having an affair with another person.
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Lk 16
18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
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post Oct 9 2014, 03:59 PM

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i didn't mean to offend women, just sharing lor for honest guy biggrin.gif

For guy, try to look for women with lower economy class. Women needs security. Sometimes a stable man simply can win because he demonstrates stability.

need to deliver baby, woman afraid during difficult times man run away...

also for indonesian woman here, they need malaysian man cuz it provides them immigration / legal status stability. She can work, she will bring her parents here... she wanna build a better live here, when she delivers, her parents will be with her... but for all of this to hapen, imigresen needs to settle first lahh... married with IC guy.


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post Oct 9 2014, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Oct 9 2014, 03:59 PM)
Women needs security. Sometimes a stable man simply can win because he demonstrates stability.
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This is true and I don't blame woman for it, Christian or no Christian.
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post Oct 9 2014, 04:25 PM

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I guess spiritual Christian need security in the sense that their spouse fear the God and always will put God in the first priority even over them. so when their spouse or partner is not Christian which also mean they are not fear and show reverence to God, how can they feel secure?

just my very fundamental understanding
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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 9 2014, 04:25 PM)
I guess spiritual Christian need security in the sense that their spouse fear the God and always will put God in the first priority even over them. so when their spouse or partner is not Christian which also mean they are not fear and show reverence to God, how can they feel secure?

just my very fundamental understanding
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Women need hug and touch.

Many women grew up in military style / strict discipline family, which thinking that family hugging only makes you a weak person, being a woman is weak, need to be strong like men, etc...etc...

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post Oct 9 2014, 05:10 PM

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i mean, hug and touch is a sense of security for women. regardless coming from christian man or not.
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post Oct 9 2014, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Oct 9 2014, 03:12 PM)
I am not surprise at all.

I not to say I judge my fellow brothers la but I know a good and reliable brother when i see one. You know how? When i see him care about his brothers and sisters like the way a sheperd would take care of his flock. And not just leaders, in fact all of us are called to be sheperds, we should sheperd each other.

I know I know.

I think couples who really want to seek God's will always have one thing in mind, perseverance in a relationship. For this reason, I always see christians get together wanting to test a new relationship but there just isn't enough chemistry to like each other, thats why the relationship failed because the partner was just seeing if this works out. So the perseverance weren't there because they were telling themselves, i am settling down for the next best thing because i can't find a person who i can fall in love with. So the relationship becomes a big test for the poor dude. Sometimes I have even seen a christian guy barrage his newly converted girlfriend with full of tests. That takes away the intimacy and romance out of the relationship.

So before one commits to a relationship, make sure you see a future in the guy or girl or else, forget about it. I've seen christian girls even desperately try on a relationship with a non christian guy hoping that he will convert and change his worldly ways. But they know from the start it won't work, and they still get into this deal. And yeah, they are being very careful about it but if they were so careful, why commit into this in the first place and hurt the guy badly? I've seen this christian girl at church started a rship with an unbeliever guy, brought him into the church and try to accomodate him. To him, it became a test. And when things didn't work out because she thought he wasn't holy enough she ended it, the guy tried to barge in to see her, and then the whole cell group had to intervene to stop him. It was a mess, i saw the guy barge into the cell group's gates demanding to see her. I just didn't get involve because for me, its the girl's fault, she hurt him, she has to answer for it. Why pull my cg members into this fiasco?

So once both of them really like each other and fullfill the minimal requirements like trust and believing in christ. Next thing is let the relationship flow, don't make it become a trial examination. Its a torture, it takes away intimacy and romance.
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You worry too much about other people.

If I were you, I wouldn't get too fixated about what this girl will do or what that guy will do.

Are you familiar with passage that talks about running the race and finishing it as taught by the Apostle Paul?

One of the things in running this spiritual race is to get rid of the need to kepoh about other people. (1 Thessalonians 4:11) biggrin.gif

I don't mean to be crude with this word but it will really help.
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post Oct 9 2014, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Oct 9 2014, 05:24 PM)
Yeah i guess i be running without a running partner, too much hassle, haha.

Lighter to run alone.
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True laa... but only 1000 point lor... with parner 10.000 points extra bonus... little2x people management get can 10 times 1 man show
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post Oct 9 2014, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Oct 9 2014, 05:32 PM)
With a partner you got to concentrate on family ministry, no time because have to raise family. But if you are alone, you can do all kind of stuff to help the church.
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bring parents, parents in law to the picture lahh to take care baby... oso cuz of GOD's special blessing, some people can afford to have a maid... even christian maid...
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post Oct 9 2014, 05:40 PM

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quite true lah i did nothing... i just focus on money things. my wife is also indonesian, and she's not working due to immigration status... i guess different person different problem.
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1 of the metaphor of relationship with God is husband and wife (mean God is husband and we are wife la biggrin.gif). when u have been into that stage u will know God well? have much closer relationship with God perhaps?
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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 9 2014, 05:40 PM)
1 of the metaphor of relationship with God is husband and wife (mean God is husband and we are wife la biggrin.gif). when u have been into that stage u will know God well? have much closer relationship with God perhaps?
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more responsibility yes... cuz i went error both my parents and in law parents start to scream... hey take care ur wife !!.. something like that... sometimes feels like a slave like bonded but i guess that's a privileges to be married anyway...

I think my knowledge of GOD increases not because i married, but because i read bible and eat Rhema from it. not cuz of wedding. two different things...
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post Oct 9 2014, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 9 2014, 05:40 PM)
1 of the metaphor of relationship with God is husband and wife (mean God is husband and we are wife la biggrin.gif). when u have been into that stage u will know God well? have much closer relationship with God perhaps?
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Every morning can say "O Lord Jesus, I love You" a few times xD

Try it
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post Oct 9 2014, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Oct 9 2014, 05:58 PM)
Every morning can say "O Lord Jesus, I love You" a few times xD

Try it
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Now confirm already.

Pehkey, you know what I mean.
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post Oct 9 2014, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Oct 9 2014, 07:05 PM)
Now confirm already.

Pehkey, you know what I mean.
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What you mean? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Oct 9 2014, 06:05 PM)
Now confirm already.

Pehkey, you know what I mean.
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