So no one meet in real life before here? 

Mark your Calendar Oct 6.

Get ready! 

Mark your Calendar Oct 6.

Get ready! 

any concert event held at grace convention center need to pay one and furthermore the seating that you get to sit not nice at all near to stage all the camera equipment and lighting stuff blocking the view

I cant comprehend children of the Lord having to pay to worship or is this a concert labelled 'Christian'?

any concert event held at grace convention center need to pay one and furthermore the seating that you get to sit not nice at all near to stage all the camera equipment and lighting stuff blocking the view

John 14:7 (NIV)If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."

I think those fee is just for reimburse the rental and expenses arise due to those events. not for profitable purpose?

is there any seating classes, such as VIP, VVIP, Class 1, Class 2, Class 3 those things ?

Yes.

That's why it feels like a secular concert.
. Cost : SILVER - RM80 | GOLD - RM100 | PLATINUM - RM300.
http://grace-intl.com/?event=israel-hought...ive-in-malaysia

IMO nothing wrong for them to earn a living from ministry. I know Israel Houghton for some time now.

There are many Christians Artists earning from sales of their Music. This is their rice bowl. But most Christians earn their money from the secular corporate world, working.
Music Ministry is also work. I don't see why this is okay and the next is not.

I've nothing against Christians being rich. My heart is free from this jealousy. 

All resources belongs to God anyway.

'Christian' or gospel music is VERY profitable.

I organise seminars where the local sponsors pay for the loose ends if there is a loss. IF this is worship, they should go for local sponsors and free will offering.
Afterall the venue is owned  by a church?  Why ask for upfront payment for tickets?  Sounds like a profitable concert.

If its not profit, any profits should be declared for accountability and donated to pre planned organisations.  That's my opinion.

IMO nothing wrong for them to earn a living from ministry. I know Israel Houghton for some time now.

There are many Christians Artists earning from sales of their Music. This is their rice bowl. But most Christians earn their money from the secular corporate world, working.
Music Ministry is also work. I don't see why this is okay and the next is not.

I've nothing against Christians being rich. My heart is free from this jealousy. 

All resources belongs to God anyway.

ISRAEL HOUGHTON & NEW BREED is a movement created for those who believe that worship and justice go hand in hand. We exist to reflect the heart of God and His love for the nations, the poor, the lost, and the forgotten. “We are not defined by the petty price tag mentalities of society. Our inheritance lies far beyond eternity. There are no limits when it comes to our destiny. As the deep goes deeper we find our name. We are New Breed”…. Are you?

ISRAEL HOUGHTON & NEW BREED have achieved a synthesis of music and message that is electrifying and activating audiences inside and outside of traditional church walls. Most of their albums have been recorded before live audiences to capture their infectious energy. Leader, singer, songwriter and multi-instrumentalist Israel Houghton has seen his compositions become integral components for progressive now-generation churches. Flanked by voices filled with joy, purpose and conviction singing over galvanizing arrangements of music with African, Middle Eastern and South American slants, Israel and New Breed have swiftly amassed a legion of followers that crosses generational and cultural lines. And as barriers are blasted away, the sprawling cutting-edge unit has been fittingly graced with two Gold-selling albums, seven Dove Awards, two Stellar Awards, a Soul Train Award, seven Grammy® Award nominations, and four Grammy® Awards. The most recent being a 2011 Grammy® for Best Pop/Contemporary Gospel Album (Love God.Love People.)

for them as long as they are not greed and they also give tenth of their earning to god, it should be fine.

for us, should view that they serve god too. so deserve an earning better than us as their job are noble, saving the soul unlike we work for a living

Lakewood Church Leader Israel Houghton Says Joel Osteen Is 'Real Deal'

On Larry King Live, the following very disturbing conversation occurred with Larry King and Joel Osteen:


KING: What if you're Jewish or Muslim, you don't accept Christ at all?

OSTEEN: You know, I'm very careful about saying who would and wouldn't go to heaven. I don't know ...

At this point, even Larry King appears surprised by Osteen’s answer. Then Larry tosses Osteen a "soft-ball" to explain his previous answer. And again Osteen openly denies that Jesus Christ is the ONLY way of salvation.


KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They're wrong, aren't they?

OSTEEN: Well, I don't know if I believe they're wrong. I believe here's what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God will judge a person's heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don't know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don't know. I've seen their sincerity. So I don't know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.

Again Osteen denies the redemptive work of the Lord Jesus Christ. Notice, he praises the pagan, false-religion of India as "I know they love God." Unbelievable. . .

I’m sure some reading this are thinking, "Well, maybe Larry caught Joel Osteen flat footed. Maybe Osteen wasn’t prepared." If Osteen only had been given another chance to testify of the redemptive work of the Lord Jesus Christ, he’d get it straightened out.

Osteen did get another chance. . .

After Larry King opened the phone lines, a concerned Christian asks Joel to clarify his previous statement (which we just viewed). Again Osteen could easily clear this up.


CALLER: Hello, Larry. You're the best, and thank you, Joe -- Joel -- for your positive messages and your book. I'm wondering, though, why you side-stepped Larry's earlier question about how we get to heaven? The Bible clearly tells us that Jesus is the way, the truth and the light and the only way to the father is through him. That's not really a message of condemnation but of truth.

OSTEEN: Yes, I would agree with her. I believe that. . .

KING: So then a Jew is not going to heaven?

OSTEEN: No. Here's my thing, Larry, is I can't judge somebody's heart. You know? Only God can look at somebody's heart, and so -- I don't know. To me, it's not my business to say, you know, this one is or this one isn't. I just say, here's what the Bible teaches and I'm going to put my faith in Christ. And I just I think it's wrong when you go around saying, you're saying you're not going, you're not going, you're not going, because it's not exactly my way. I'm just...

KING: But you believe your way.

OSTEEN: I believe my way. I believe my way with all my heart.

KING: But for someone who doesn't share it is wrong, isn't he?

OSTEEN: Well, yes. Well, I don't know if I look at it like that. I would present my way, but I'm just going to let God be the judge of that. I don't know. I don't know.

KING: So you make no judgment on anyone?

OSTEEN: No. But I...

And here Larry really tosses Joel a soft-ball. How about a God-defying atheist? And again, Osteen will not confess that Jesus Christ is the ONLY way of salvation.


KING: What about atheists?

OSTEEN: You know what, I'm going to let someone -- I'm going to let God be the judge of who goes to heaven and hell. I just -- again, I present the truth, and I say it every week. You know, I believe it's a relationship with Jesus. But you know what? I'm not going to go around telling everybody else if they don't want to believe that that's going to be their choice. God's got to look at your own heart. God's got to look at your heart, and only God knows that.

http://www.av1611.org/osteen.html

True also. Some write and sell books also. They gotta survive also. But i do feel that this concert ticket is quite pricey.

I think the problem is confusion of mind/heart. So are they 'working' or are they 'impacting people for Christ'?