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PROTON EXORA BOLD OWNERS THREAD! V3, Unleash the turbo power!
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 May 2 2014, 12:04 PM
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May 2 2014, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(alexei @ May 2 2014, 12:04 PM) rOnnyJustrOnGood share. the official chart is generated at crank... no car manufacturer produces wheel horsepower chart..YouDontKnowMyNamecheck out that torque dip at 4.5k RPM. Reason I'm asking, is I don't think the engine is really a flat torque engine, and the way to explain the official dyno chart, is that the chart was generated on wheel, with the CVT, with the data not normalized to gear position. In other words, the dyno chart is comparing CFE with 2L NA, with the former running CVT and the later running at fixed gear. In real world, if pitting against EB with say an Accord 2L, these 2 cars have similar 0-100kmh time. The dyno chart is misleading. I hope you guys understand what I'm trying to say here.  at crank, there is no transmission losses.. pure power generated by the engine.. the cvt, tyres everything connected to the crank, sips a bit of power from it... that is called transmission losses... |
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May 2 2014, 03:03 PM
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khairilyazitAll you said is correct, and I presumed it to be true.
Fact is, if the torque is so good, why does it do 0-100kmh similarly to a 2L Accord. Same goes to Preve and Inspira S. |
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May 2 2014, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(alexei @ May 2 2014, 03:03 PM) khairilyazitAll you said is correct, and I presumed it to be true. no other than to limit the stress to CVT. otherwise the CVT kaput in no time.Fact is, if the torque is so good, why does it do 0-100kmh similarly to a 2L Accord. Same goes to Preve and Inspira S. |
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May 2 2014, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(alexei @ May 2 2014, 03:03 PM) khairilyazitAll you said is correct, and I presumed it to be true. Fact is, if the torque is so good, why does it do 0-100kmh similarly to a 2L Accord. Same goes to Preve and Inspira S. QUOTE(zaidi @ May 2 2014, 03:06 PM) no other than to limit the stress to CVT. otherwise the CVT kaput in no time. the cvt is the bottleneck... constantly changing ratio is not fast.. thats why manual/DSG is still the fastest... that fixed ratio+clutch maens not so much power is lost in translation... up till now, no one knows how to properly Dyno a CVT as most dyno depends on run in certain gears to get the info... |
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May 2 2014, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(khairilyazit @ May 2 2014, 03:49 PM) the cvt is the bottleneck... constantly changing ratio is not fast.. Probably doing my own calculation is more satisfying than simply send to dyno test.thats why manual/DSG is still the fastest... that fixed ratio+clutch maens not so much power is lost in translation... up till now, no one knows how to properly Dyno a CVT as most dyno depends on run in certain gears to get the info... Bottom line is, most people buy Exora Bold for big space. Performance is 2nd/3rd/last priority. So far, I'm satisfied with its performance. U want powerful MPV, buy Ford S-Max at RM200K  This post has been edited by taqu: May 2 2014, 04:31 PM |
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May 2 2014, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(taqu @ May 2 2014, 04:30 PM) Probably doing my own calculation is more satisfying than simply send to dyno test. if u got OBD2 connector.. torque probably can help u calculate..Bottom line is, most people buy Exora Bold for big space. Performance is 2nd/3rd/last priority. So far, I'm satisfied with its performance. U want powerful MPV, buy Ford S-Max at RM200K |
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May 2 2014, 05:02 PM
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my aircon just kaput again and i'm on the plus highway to penang for the weekend wit my harp for a concert. sigh...
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May 2 2014, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ May 2 2014, 05:02 PM) my aircon just kaput again and i'm on the plus highway to penang for the weekend wit my harp for a concert. sigh... Aiyo so unlucky la you, this is 3rd time happen aight?.... try change SC and show reports on previous service...Probly loose wire again or sensor issue... |
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May 2 2014, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ May 2 2014, 05:02 PM) my aircon just kaput again and i'm on the plus highway to penang for the weekend wit my harp for a concert. sigh... Driving halfway?Any symptom? |
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May 2 2014, 05:47 PM
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strange thing is, position 1-3 on the aircon is not working but position 4 is, but is like driving in a hurricane. and the back aircon is working. will send again when get back to kl, need the car to carry my harp arnd penang this weekend...sigh. no symptoms, after the windy ipoh stretch my dad just said why is the car so hot? i was like...omg again...!!!
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May 2 2014, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ May 2 2014, 05:02 PM) my aircon just kaput again and i'm on the plus highway to penang for the weekend wit my harp for a concert. sigh... Your EB really unlucky... hopefully it gets resolved once and for all  |
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May 2 2014, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(YouDontKnowMyName @ May 2 2014, 06:00 PM) Your EB really unlucky... hopefully it gets resolved once and for all I certainly hope so, coz its impossible for me to drive long distance with a fragile instrument frequently with an aircon that takes holidays on whim...if this continues I will sell my exora, huge regret but what to do...it just isn't working...  |
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May 3 2014, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ May 2 2014, 08:39 PM) I certainly hope so, coz its impossible for me to drive long distance with a fragile instrument frequently with an aircon that takes holidays on whim...if this continues I will sell my exora, huge regret but what to do...it just isn't working... Are you this guy?» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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May 3 2014, 11:47 AM
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May 3 2014, 01:51 PM
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Omaigod new problem
Today driving eb the whole journey got petrol fumes, usually only got after refueling Scared later keluar metro keluarga bahagia rentong Anyone else having similar problem? |
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May 3 2014, 02:01 PM
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sent my car to service + fix problem yesterday at glenmarie main service centre
need to change car battery cuz he say low voltage. rm 370. 2 yrs already considered 2 yrs normal and price reasonable? |
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May 3 2014, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(brotan @ May 3 2014, 02:01 PM) sent my car to service + fix problem yesterday at glenmarie main service centre wow, your car battery seems overprice. Outside sold around RM250 for maintainance free battery.need to change car battery cuz he say low voltage. rm 370. 2 yrs already considered 2 yrs normal and price reasonable? |
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May 3 2014, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(wai1460 @ May 3 2014, 05:59 PM) wow, your car battery seems overprice. Outside sold around RM250 for maintainance free battery. Can change outside without warranty void? |
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May 4 2014, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(fireballs @ Apr 30 2014, 11:47 PM) gosh...i intend to get a brown exora also..so will be similar to taxi (though taxi is silver mix wit brown). but if i'm a taxi drive, the turbo engine will cost me a bomb for those town errands...kinda pity them. they should ask them standardized it either saga or exora.and now not too sure if getting exora for my family mpv is a good idea after all |
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