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 PROTON EXORA BOLD OWNERS THREAD! V3, Unleash the turbo power!

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post Apr 4 2014, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(drivenheat @ Apr 4 2014, 08:43 PM)
guy, ade member pkai exora 1.6, engine oil leaking kat engine oil cap.. da 3 kali tukar oil cap pun leaking gak.. any suggestion?
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how can leaking at oil cap?

put in too much engine oil?
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post Apr 6 2014, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(drivenheat @ Apr 4 2014, 10:58 PM)
not sure la.. my expectation the ori cap cannot tahan pressure/heat..
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QUOTE(sKypRiNcE734 @ Apr 5 2014, 02:08 PM)
For what I know,the original exora oil cap memang cannot tahan.Its better you change to Works Engineering Oil Cap.Its very good.Futher info -> Exora Owners Club Malaysia.
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aik.. isn't it the same with preve cfe n suprima s?
i dont think they'll use different vendors or part..
how about the engine bay? restricted access? cause exora's frontend seems shorter than preve or suprima..
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post Apr 17 2014, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(putramon @ Apr 17 2014, 03:09 PM)
slight modification you might not feel, until the next upgrade you might think its no gains...unless got budget to put all in 1 shot...surely will  drool.gif
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how about put 1 shot then suddenly slight feel only.. would that justify the cost?
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post Apr 20 2014, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Apr 20 2014, 01:27 AM)
Check the emblem at the driver side door frame, does it say VT3+?
If that's the sound your getting when off throttle, then perhaps even VT3+ has it.
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I dont think the VT3+ has a different emblem.. it still says VT3...
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post Apr 21 2014, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(sKypRiNcE734 @ Apr 20 2014, 02:41 PM)
since when exora cfe started to use VT3+?
PROTON made that change to preve with vt3+ and 6 airbags + ESC.(and now preve cfe is 153HP)
Exora still uses VT3.
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what weed u smoking bro? CFE is still 138BHP..

QUOTE(alexei @ Apr 20 2014, 09:16 PM)
I thought the 2014 model uses VT3+, and that we all know it here.
I remember was asking about changing to VT3+ a while back, and it's not possible.
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err.. VT3 and VT3+ is essentially the same box.. just abit of modification done..
proton would be clever to order only 1 type of VT3 rather than ordering VT3 and VT3+. which is a waste of money..

i think all new cfe now comes with VT3+...

heres mine.. and based on the colour, u can guess what car it is..
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post Apr 21 2014, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(YouDontKnowMyName @ Apr 21 2014, 10:34 AM)
Since my EB also says VT3 (turbo emblem model), so I guess we can assume that all the newer CFE models use VT3+?
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lemme check with SS owners..
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post Apr 21 2014, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(YouDontKnowMyName @ Apr 21 2014, 10:55 AM)
I think all the other SS units have VT3 stated on their units too even though its VT3+, since yours is that way.
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yup.. confirmed...
all CVT3+ is marked CVT3 on the door plates

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post Apr 21 2014, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(YouDontKnowMyName @ Apr 21 2014, 11:06 AM)
So is there any other way to find out if it's VT3 or VT3+ without looking at the door plates? laugh.gif
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ask proton?
haha..

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post Apr 22 2014, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(sKypRiNcE734 @ Apr 21 2014, 07:33 PM)
It's a Suprima S.

https://www.facebook.com/TurboOwnersClub/po...596833973746879

Don't know if that is true or not..
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only if it were true...
it was posted on April 1st.. so go figure..
if u take it literally, be my guest..
that number can be coerced from the campro mill..
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post May 2 2014, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ May 1 2014, 11:58 AM)
Have anyone realized that the dyno chart comparing CFE, CPS & 2L is not realisti?  Wonder why we cannot out accelerate a 2L car as it appears?
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QUOTE(YouDontKnowMyName @ May 1 2014, 02:37 PM)
You mean the chart on first page? That's just torque figures smile.gif
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that chart show engine torque curve..
probably measured at the crank... so higher numbers...
minus the weight, transmission losses, rims, tyres... real wheel horsepower n torque is not known..
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post May 2 2014, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ May 2 2014, 12:04 PM)
rOnnyJustrOnGood share.
YouDontKnowMyNamecheck out that torque dip at 4.5k RPM.

Reason I'm asking, is I don't think the engine is really a flat torque engine, and the way to explain the official dyno chart, is that the chart was generated on wheel, with the CVT, with the data not normalized to gear position.

In other words, the dyno chart is comparing CFE with 2L NA, with the former running CVT and the later running at fixed gear.

In real world, if pitting against EB with say an Accord 2L, these 2 cars have similar 0-100kmh time.

The dyno chart is misleading. I hope you guys understand what I'm trying to say here.
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the official chart is generated at crank... no car manufacturer produces wheel horsepower chart..
at crank, there is no transmission losses.. pure power generated by the engine.. the cvt, tyres everything connected to the crank, sips a bit of power from it... that is called transmission losses...
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QUOTE(alexei @ May 2 2014, 03:03 PM)
khairilyazitAll you said is correct, and I presumed it to be true.
Fact is, if the torque is so good, why does it do 0-100kmh similarly to a 2L Accord. Same goes to Preve and Inspira S.
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QUOTE(zaidi @ May 2 2014, 03:06 PM)
no other than to limit the stress to CVT. otherwise the CVT kaput in no time.
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the cvt is the bottleneck... constantly changing ratio is not fast..
thats why manual/DSG is still the fastest... that fixed ratio+clutch maens not so much power is lost in translation...
up till now, no one knows how to properly Dyno a CVT as most dyno depends on run in certain gears to get the info...
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QUOTE(taqu @ May 2 2014, 04:30 PM)
Probably doing my own calculation is more satisfying than simply send to dyno test.

Bottom line is, most people buy Exora Bold for big space. Performance is 2nd/3rd/last priority. So far, I'm satisfied with its performance. U want powerful MPV, buy Ford S-Max at RM200K sweat.gif
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if u got OBD2 connector.. torque probably can help u calculate..
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post May 9 2014, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ May 9 2014, 06:23 PM)
Haha. My aircon didn't even last a week. It's not working again. A pox on Proton and their QC and fabulous mechanics. Just called and they said they want my car for the whole of next week to try fix it again.

Guess no choice just have to scrap my dear car.
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Wow... proton is said to have the best aircond in the business.. maybe not your luck to get a lemon aircond..
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post May 9 2014, 07:19 PM

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Well.. suprima owners are saying their aircond gets a bit uncold on hot days.
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post May 12 2014, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ May 12 2014, 01:39 PM)
I have no first hand experience of OWV problem, even though I've seen other videos and couldn't tell what's wrong. Google for "Exora Overcrank" and you'll find them.
Is yours cold start or warm start? Did your kind assistant wait for the fuel pump or the ABS light to stop before turning the ignition?

Update OBD2 reader, list of available OBD2 codes:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Notes:
- All listed with * are codes with data. Those not listed means no data.
- O2 sensor number 2 not working, meaning the post-CAT sensor is not installed.
- One things that mattered to me but no data is the MAF sensor. sad.gif

wai1460I can only read those with '*'.
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the CFE is running based on MAP sensor.. not MAF...
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post May 15 2014, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(YouDontKnowMyName @ May 15 2014, 07:22 PM)
What kind of difference, specifically?
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The brake system and booster runs on vacumm from the engine.
Electric Vacumm Pump produces the vacumm needed for the system to function properly. Normal vacumm pump takes power from the engine and variates as the engine revs up and down.. EVP also means less strains on the engine during idle as the pump takes power from the alternator and not directly from the engine..

One thing u will notice is that your brake would not harden if u press it multiple times successively during idling..
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post May 16 2014, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(YouDontKnowMyName @ May 16 2014, 01:05 AM)
So this is the reason why the EB's brakes tend to harden when pressed multiple times successively during idle?
Learned something new today. Thanks for your input tongue.gif
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Yeap. Evp eliminates that by always providing vacumm...
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post May 19 2014, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(rOnnyJustrOn @ May 19 2014, 10:14 AM)
Hehe.. minyak luar. Ever hear about JTX? Any seller here? I didn't believe this oil bcoz no data sheet whatsoever claim about its ability. My frenz keep poisoning me to buy. haha..
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JTX a mineral oil thats even more expensive than a Fully Synthetic Mobil 1...
No thanks.. lol
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post May 20 2014, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(skydog @ May 20 2014, 05:32 PM)
hi, my friend's eb is december 2013, his eb also have the vacuum pump, so just wonder eb with turbo badge should have the vacuum pump, otherwise why they change the badge to turbo?
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QUOTE(skydog @ May 20 2014, 05:34 PM)
that is also my question, why others' turbo badge eb has the vacuum pump, and mine or urs do not have?

and what is the purpose of changing the emblem to turbo?
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QUOTE(skydog @ May 20 2014, 05:35 PM)
so may i know what is the purpose of changing cfe to turbo emblem?
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they ran out of CFE emblems?

seriously guys.. its a rebranding exercise by proton... CFE rebranded to Turbo.. its just an emblem Change..
the vacumm pump, probably u got the car that was made right before the vacumm pump thingy got incorporated in to the design...

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