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post Jul 20 2006, 03:11 PM, updated 19y ago

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4800+ X2 Brisbane G1 | linkinpark | Abit KN9-SLI | Kingston Value RAM DDR2-800 | Silverstone Nitrogon NT-06 | 2900MHz
4200+ X2 Windsor F2 | bryanyeo87 | Abit KN9 Ultra | Kingston Value RAM DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
4200+ X2 Windsor F2 | Jealousy | DFI Infinity nF UltraII-M2 | Corsair XMS2-675 | stock AMD cooler
4200+ X2 Windsor F2 | kopak | MSI K9N Platinum | Corsair DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | cyberloner | Abit KN9 SLi | Kingston DDR2-667 | Thermaltake Sonic Tower | 2700MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | sempronic | Abit KN9 SLi | Corsair XMS2-DDR800 | Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX | 3000MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | tapirus | ABIT KN9 SLi | A-data DDR-667 | stock AMD cooler
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | camedemac | ABIT KN9S | Kingston DDR2-667 | CoolerMaster HyperTX | 2760MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | SilverVR | Asus Crosshair | Corsair XMS2-675 | Stock AMD Cooler
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | 8tvt | ASUS M2N-E | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler | 2668MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | h_bib | ASUS M2N-E | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | koie | ASUS M2N-E | Kingston DDR2-667 | Thermaltake Mini Typhoon
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | penapis | BIOSTAR TForce 590 SLi | Corsair XMS2-800 | CoolerMaster HyperTX | 2600MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | kalakatu | BIOSTAR TForce 570U | Corsair XMS2-800 | CoolerMaster HyperTX | 2500MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | zamree7 | BIOSTAR TForce 570U | Kingston DDR2-667 | Silverstone NT06 Cooler | 2753MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | awang | BIOSTAR TForce 550 | Mushkin DDR2-800 | stock AMD cooler
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | sjn hassan | BIOSTAR TForce 550 | Micron DDR2-800 | stock AMD cooler | 2500MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | byfc2010 | BIOSTAR TForce 6100-AM2 | Patriot DDR-667 | Thermaltake Venus 12 | 2504MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | lolhalol | BIOSTAR TForce 6100-AM2 | Patriot DDR-667 | stock AMD cooler
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | fantasy_kenny | DFI LP UT nF590 SLI M2R | G.Skill DDR2-800 | Cool-Trek Vostok Extreme WC
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | pcmoddingmy | DFI LP UT nF590 SLI-M2R | OCZ SOE Urban Elite PC6400 | Corsair Nautilus500 WC | 2904MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | duarnt | DFI Infinity nF570U-M2/G | Corsair DDR2-677 | Coolermaster Hyper TX
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | mr_habuk | DFI Infinity nF570U-M2/G | Mushkin DDR2-800 | Gigabyte G-Power | 2599MHz
3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | ikan_semilang | DFI Infinity nF Ultra II-M2 | ??? | stock AMD cooler
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3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | CV6149 | ABIT KN9 Ultra | Mushkin DDR2-667 | Arctic Cooling Freezer64 Pro | 2801MHz
3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | sniperwolf | ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe | Aeneon DDR2-667 | Thermalright HR-01 | 2479MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | gozila84 | ASUS M2N-E | Mushkin DDR2-667 | Thermaltake Blue Orb II | 2660MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | awh85 | Biostar TA690G | Kingston DDR2-667 | Stock cooler
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | treason | BIOSTAR TForce 570U | Crucial Ballistix PC5300 | Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX | 3003MHz
3600+ X2 Brisbane G1 | Crazyboyrs | BIOSTAR TForce 570 | Corsair DDR2-667 | CoolerMaster Hyper TX
3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | allenultra | BIOSTAR TForce 550 | Apacer DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler | 2397MHz
3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | Cyrus2k | BIOSTAR TForce 550 | Mushkin DDR2-800 | stock AMD cooler
3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | goldfries | BIOSTAR TForce 550 | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler | 2509MHz
3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | lucklyghost | BIOSTAR TForce 550 | Corsair DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
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3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | mruzian | DFI Infinity UltraII-M2 | Corsair DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
3600+ X2 Windsor F2 | Hayase | GIGABYTE GA-M55SLI-S4 | Corsair DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
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3500+ Orleans F2 | ah_fong | BIOSTAR TForce 550 | Corsair DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler | 2808MHz
3500+ Orleans F2 | Shengz | BIOSTAR TForce 570U | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
3500+ Orleans F2 | zhen^wei | BIOSTAR TForce 6100-AM2 | Micron DDR2-800 | stock AMD cooler | 2749MHz
3500+ Orleans F2 | F@NT@sy_G@RRic | DFI Infinity UltraII-M2 | TeamXtreem DDR2-667 | Artic Cooling Freezer 64 | 2825MHz
3500+ Orleans F2 | serez | GIGABYTE GA-M55SLI-S4 | Corsair DDR2-667MHz | Thermaltake Blue Orb II | 2728MHz
3200+ Orleans F2 | soulfly | ABIT NF-M2 nView | Crucial DDR2-667 | CoolerMaster Hyper TX | 2900MHz
3200+ Orleans F2 | DarkWonder | BIOSTAR TForce4 Ultra AM2 | Corsair DDR2-667MHz | AMD Stock Cooler
3200+ Orleans F2 | syarat | BIOSTAR TForce 550 | Mushkin DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler | 2798MHz
3200+ Orleans F2 | mzms | BIOSTAR 6100-AM2 | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler | 2629MHz
3200+ Orleans F2 | allenultra | Biostar TForce 6100-AM2 | Apacer DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler | 2505MHz
3000+ Orleans F2 | Asus | BIOSTAR TForce 570U | Crucial DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler | 2610MHz
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3000+ Orleans F2 | RyuzakiKagezashi | GIGABYTE GA-M55PLUS-S3G | Kingston DDR2-533 | stock AMD cooler
3000+ Orleans F2 | Matric | MSI K9N Neo | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler
3000+ Orleans F2 | andyjyneo | MSI K9NU Neo | Corsair DDR2-667 | stock AMD cooler

3000+ Manila F2 | Cyclone87 | BIOSTAR TForce 550 | Samsung DDR2-533 | stock cooler
3000+ Manila F2 | Seventh | BIOSTAR TForce 6100-AM2 | Kingston DDR2-667 | stock cooler
2800+ Manila F2 | beetle_larvae | GIGABYTE GA-M51GM-S2G | Kingston DDR2-533 | stock AMD cooler


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Mainboard statistics:
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[11] BIOSTAR TForce 550
[9] DFI Infinity nF UltraII-M2
[7] BIOSTAR TForce 6100-AM2
[5] GIGABYTE GA-M55SLI-S4
[4] ABIT KN9 SLi
[4] BIOSTAR TForce 570U
[3] ABIT KN9 Ultra
[3] ASUS M2N-E
[3] MSI K9N Neo
[2] DFI LANParty UT nF590 SLI/M2R
[2] DFI Infinity nF570-M2/G
[2] GIGABYTE GA-M55PLUS-S3G
[1] ABIT KN9S
[1] ABIT NF-M2 nView
[1] ASUS Crosshair
[1] ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe
[1] ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe
[1] BIOSTAR TForce 590 SLi
[1] BIOSTAR TForce 570
[1] BIOSTAR TA690G-AM2
[1] GIGABYTE GA-M51GM-S2G
[1] MSI K9N Platinum
[1] MSI K9NU Neo


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to setup a new rig of 939..cost almost the same with am2..so..i choose am2, since 939 will soon phased out.. sad.gif
will be joining this am2 clan soon..
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QUOTE(syarat @ Jul 20 2006, 04:16 PM)
to setup a new rig of 939..cost almost the same with am2..so..i choose am2, since 939 will soon phased out.. sad.gif
will be joining this am2 clan soon..
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Yeah, yeah, i'm a member tooo.... used a s939 for 2 months then change to AM2 coz got a serious buyer for my cpu n mobo...

My spec :

AMD AM2 3000+ | MSI K9 Neo NF550 Mobo | Corsair DDR2 667 | Stock AMD Cooler...

I only play2 o/c to 2.4ghz only then downclock it back... Dont really like o/c ing that much...
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post Jul 20 2006, 04:25 PM

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how much u spent for those setup?
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post Jul 20 2006, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(syarat @ Jul 20 2006, 04:25 PM)
how much u spent for those setup?
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U mean my whole rig or what? CPU+RAM+Mobo = RM1k

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post Jul 20 2006, 04:32 PM

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no..i mean only the proc+ram+mobo..if affordable..might get these..cos others always varies..
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QUOTE(syarat @ Jul 20 2006, 04:32 PM)
no..i mean only the proc+ram+mobo..if affordable..might get these..cos others always varies..
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Urmm when i upgrade it was something like 1k = RAM 345, CPU 340, Mobo 320... Nowadays it's much cheaper....
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i noticed dat mobo is selling at 340 sumwhere..where did u get at 320?
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QUOTE(syarat @ Jul 20 2006, 04:38 PM)
i noticed dat mobo is selling at 340 sumwhere..where did u get at 320?
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RM340? U sure? Coz i seen PCZone pricelist now it's something like RM295.... If u have the funds try getting the MSI platnium wif N570 chipset RM355, better features i think..

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nope..pczone is 350..just checked..nevermind..i tot of dealing wif moderno instead..
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http://www.overclockercafe.com/Articles/DDR_vs_DDR2/pg_3.htm

Not really much difference ddr1 vs ddr2 for now.

Is DDR1 compatible on DDR2 mobo?
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QUOTE(woundxp @ Jul 20 2006, 04:46 PM)
http://www.overclockercafe.com/Articles/DDR_vs_DDR2/pg_3.htm

Not really much difference ddr1 vs ddr2 for now.

Is DDR1 compatible on DDR2 mobo?
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Nope not compatible DDR1 wont work on DDR2 slot... vice versa...

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QUOTE(syarat @ Jul 20 2006, 04:45 PM)
nope..pczone is 350..just checked..nevermind..i tot of dealing wif moderno instead..
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I check the pricelist in here...

http://www.hardwarezone.com.my/priceguide/download.php
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QUOTE(woundxp @ Jul 20 2006, 04:46 PM)
http://www.overclockercafe.com/Articles/DDR_vs_DDR2/pg_3.htm

Not really much difference ddr1 vs ddr2 for now.

Is DDR1 compatible on DDR2 mobo?
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Not compatible.

The advantage of ugpgrading to AM2 is 65nm which will come out in the future. Now u should get a 3000+. Then wait until 65nm X2 (or single core if u dont plan to go dual).

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QUOTE(syarat @ Jul 20 2006, 04:16 PM)
to setup a new rig of 939..cost almost the same with am2..so..i choose am2, since 939 will soon phased out.. sad.gif
will be joining this am2 clan soon..
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Exactly. I've calculated the cost. To upgrade to 939 is actually more expensive than AM2 because i can't sell my old stuff with 939 and still have to shell out a lot.

Since 939 is already going obsolete, might as well go AM2. Also, from what i read somewhere, AM2 will have a much longer live as it is supposed to be foward compatible with AM3, AM4 sockets in future, so maybe using slower RAM (DDR2 instead of DDR3, DDR4, but at least u still can upgrade your CPU for a good while.


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QUOTE(syarat @ Jul 20 2006, 04:38 PM)
i noticed dat mobo is selling at 340 sumwhere..where did u get at 320?
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My AM2 rig:
AMD AM2 3000+ | MSI K9 Neo NF550 Mobo | Kingston DDR2 667

Soulfly: Can add me to the clan list? smile.gif


btw guys, the mobo is only RM295 at PCZONE. Price dropped already. I just bought it 2 days ago.

Go buy one before stock runs out!!!!

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 20 2006, 05:28 PM)
My AM2 rig:
AMD AM2 3000+ | MSI K9 Neo NF550 Mobo | Kingston DDR2 667

Soulfly: Can add me to the clan list? smile.gif
btw guys, the mobo is only RM295 at PCZONE. Price dropped already. I just bought it 2 days ago.

Go buy one before stock runs out!!!!
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Wahahahahaah.... New saudara... Muahahaha.... Using same cpu n m/b as me... muahahaha... welkam, welcome matrix... biggrin.gif
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Last nite install my setup, as usual, it's the CPU that's always give me headache and since i've never have experience with this HSF lock before.

Warning: The CPU installation instruction in the MSI K9 Neo manual is WRONG!!

Luckily, i refer to the AMD instruction manual. The MSI manual told me to hook up the side without that big plastic turning thing first then only hook up the side with that thing. It doesn't works at all! One look at the AMD guide can tell that u should hook up the side with the big plastic lock, then only hook the other side (there's a notch here, just just ur flat screwdriver to force it in), lastly turn the lock.

(1) Hook side with plastic lock.
(2) Hook side with metal notch. Use screwdriver to push it down 90 degree.
(3) HSF is secure lightly. Turn the plastic lock as per diagram.
(4) HSF is fully lock.

Hope this helps newbie!!

btw, how to o/c this CPU ar? Any tips? There's no multiplier like my old XP1800 wor...only FSB. please share ur success stories here!



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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 20 2006, 05:39 PM)
Last nite install my setup, as usual, it's the CPU that's always give me headache and since i've never have experience with this HSF lock before.

Warning: The CPU installation instruction in the MSI K9 Neo manual is WRONG!!

Luckily, i refer to the AMD instruction manual. The MSI manual told me to hook up the side without that big plastic turning thing first then only hook up the side with that thing. It doesn't works at all! One look at the AMD guide can tell that u should hook up the side with the big plastic lock, then only hook the other side (there's a notch here, just just ur flat screwdriver to force it in), lastly turn the lock.

(1) Hook side with plastic lock.
(2) Hook side with metal notch. Use screwdriver to push it down 90 degree.
(3) HSF is secure lightly. Turn the plastic lock as per diagram.
(4) HSF is fully lock.

Hope this helps newbie!!

btw, how to o/c this CPU ar? Any tips? There's no multiplier like my old XP1800 wor...only FSB. please share ur success stories here!
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I o/c by playing with the cpus fsb.... but b4 that i hav to set the HT at 200 and set the ram speed at 266 to make it more stable.. If i set the HT higher it usually wont boot properly..
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 20 2006, 05:39 PM)
btw, how to o/c this CPU ar? Any tips? There's no multiplier like my old XP1800 wor...only FSB. please share ur success stories here!
As far as I know... the current MSI K9N Neo 550 motherboard do not have multiplier selection in the BIOS... maybe future BIOS update will enable that.

Overclocking AM2 is just the same as overclocking 754 and 939. The basic is whenever you overclock, make sure the hypertransport speed does not exceed 2000mhz

Hypertransport (2000mhz) => HT bus x LDT multi x 2
Clockspeed = HT bus x multiplier (or FID in some cases)


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QUOTE(cLy_eVo @ Jul 20 2006, 05:08 PM)
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Yeah, u should buy technology of yesterday for today's application. doh.gif
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 20 2006, 07:57 PM)
As far as I know... the current MSI K9N Neo 550 motherboard do not have multiplier selection in the BIOS... maybe future BIOS update will enable that.

Overclocking AM2 is just the same as overclocking 754 and 939. The basic is whenever you overclock, make sure the hypertransport speed does not exceed 2000mhz

Hypertransport (2000mhz) => HT bus x LDT multi x 2
Clockspeed = HT bus x multiplier (or FID in some cases)
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well,juz i know the A64 Am2 with nForce 550 at OverClock is different with Sempron AM2....

the divider is different....
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QUOTE(fantasy_kenny @ Jul 21 2006, 02:22 AM)
well,juz i know the A64 Am2 with nForce 550 at OverClock is different with Sempron AM2....

the divider is different....
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Sempron AM2 still can run dual channel ram, it is... ? n nForce 570 is for SLI, it is?
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 20 2006, 05:25 PM)
Exactly. I've calculated the cost. To upgrade to 939 is actually more expensive than AM2 because i can't sell my old stuff with 939 and still have to shell out a lot.

Since 939 is already going obsolete, might as well go AM2. Also, from what i read somewhere, AM2 will have a much longer live as it is supposed to be foward compatible with AM3, AM4 sockets in future, so maybe using slower RAM (DDR2 instead of DDR3, DDR4, but at least u still can upgrade your CPU for a good while.
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LOL wat use to get a future technology which is not really functioninig well and stable yet?
Remeber the story of RD ram on pentium 4 ?
Remember last 3 years AMD64 in order to use windows64bit??? Where is 64bit OS? Till now every1 still gaming, doing daily operation on 32bit windows.
DDR800 ????? Would you buy 2gb ddr800 now?? wat if the moment the launch am3, a better cheap set already come out ? Make your am2 only capable to run 70% performance of am3? even VIA low end chipset run better than ur am2? Then those initially using 939, waste a simple rm200 already can get a board with much better technology than am2.
What if suddenly AMD got better technology research out, change the soket to AMD superb ....... then AM2 would be facing the same life path as S754.
Yet, amd got say AM2 will support AM3, AM4. Don't care they say until Am10, they suddenly tell u soket need to change due to the advancement of technology, what can u do? What use a future motherboard with a noob procesor runing on it. Don't make sence. I rather get a good 939 processor.

No flaming, just my 2 to 10 cent thumbup.gif
My opinion is better buy a stable, mature,cheap technology, rather than future, unusual technology.

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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Jul 21 2006, 07:01 AM)
Sempron AM2 still can run dual channel ram, it is... ? n nForce 570 is for SLI, it is?
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yes...

nForce 570 got 2 model...

1 is nForce 570 Ultra,that is not SLI
another is nForce 570 SLI,that can use SLI Tech...
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QUOTE(ToGo @ Jul 21 2006, 08:17 AM)
LOL  wat use to get a future technology which is not really functioninig  well and stable yet?
Remeber the story of RD ram on pentium 4 ?
Remember last 3 years AMD64 in order to use windows64bit??? Where is 64bit OS? Till now every1 still gaming, doing daily operation on 32bit windows.
DDR800 ????? Would you buy 2gb ddr800 now?? wat if the moment the launch am3, a better cheap set already come out ? Make your am2 only capable to run 70% performance of am3? even VIA low end chipset run better than ur am2? Then those initially using 939, waste a simple rm200 already can get a board with much better technology than am2.
What if suddenly AMD got better technology research out, change the soket to AMD superb .......  then AM2 would be facing the same life path as S754.
Yet, amd got say AM2 will support  AM3, AM4. Don't care they say until Am10, they suddenly tell u soket need to change due to the advancement of technology, what can u do? What use a future motherboard with a noob procesor runing on it. Don't make sence. I rather get a good 939 processor.

No flaming,  just my 2 to 10 cent  thumbup.gif
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Agree with you.

But I kinda bought yesterday's technology. I bought amd64, the next few days AM2 released. damn.
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well,juz i know the A64 Am2 with nForce 550 at OverClock is different with Sempron AM2....

the divider is different....
hmm.... I think it's just the same la, it's just that Sempron had lower multiplier and clockspeed, as well as smaller cache. Which Sempron were you talking about.... 2800+ or 3000+? Both are rated at 1600MHz if I'm not mistaken.

For AM2 processors, divider is DDR against clockspeed.

Check out this table for Athlon64 dividers, Sempron might applicable as well. Not sure where the original source came from, but thanks to knacky from XS forum for posting it up earlier.

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Sempron AM2 still can run dual channel ram, it is... ? n nForce 570 is for SLI, it is?
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All AM2 processors run on dual channel.

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hmm.... I think it's just the same la, it's just that Sempron had lower multiplier and clockspeed, as well as smaller cache. Which Sempron were you talking about.... 2800+ or 3000+? Both are rated at 1600MHz if I'm not mistaken.

For AM2 processors, divider is DDR against clockspeed.

Check out this table for Athlon64 dividers, Sempron might applicable as well. Not sure where the original source came from, but thanks to knacky from XS forum for posting it up earlier.

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All AM2 processors run on dual channel.
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Sempron 3000+ is 1800MHz(200*8)

so i think u r right lah..the problem is by the Multiplier...
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QUOTE(ToGo @ Jul 21 2006, 08:17 AM)
Remember last 3 years AMD64 in order to use windows64bit??? Where is 64bit OS? Till now every1 still gaming, doing daily operation on 32bit windows.
err, 64bit OSes are out there, loads of em..n its been for a while
ever heard of linux? n i dont remember AMD claimed the 64bit is mainly for windows64
n yeah, debian based ubuntu64 currently as my 2ndary OS

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LOL  wat use to get a future technology which is not really functioninig  well and stable yet?
Remeber the story of RD ram on pentium 4 ?
Remember last 3 years AMD64 in order to use windows64bit??? Where is 64bit OS? Till now every1 still gaming, doing daily operation on 32bit windows.
DDR800 ????? Would you buy 2gb ddr800 now?? wat if the moment the launch am3, a better cheap set already come out ? Make your am2 only capable to run 70% performance of am3? even VIA low end chipset run better than ur am2? Then those initially using 939, waste a simple rm200 already can get a board with much better technology than am2.
What if suddenly AMD got better technology research out, change the soket to AMD superb .......  then AM2 would be facing the same life path as S754.
Yet, amd got say AM2 will support  AM3, AM4. Don't care they say until Am10, they suddenly tell u soket need to change due to the advancement of technology, what can u do? What use a future motherboard with a noob procesor runing on it. Don't make sence. I rather get a good 939 processor.

No flaming,  just my 2 to 10 cent  thumbup.gif
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Wahlau like this why we all ever upgrade? Better that we all just still use socket A lor, matured chip what.... Muahahahah...

I dont really understand what ur saying, do u mean that if someone right now wanted to upgrade their pc from let say Athlon XP they should get a s939? Why is that? Shouldnt it be wiser to just buy AM2 instead of s939? Come on, just face it s939 is eventually going to be phased out, so would it be better to get hardwares that would be much viable in the future to upgrade?

Let say sample of upgrade path:
Ur suggested way:
Athlon XP > 2006 upgrade s939 (pay RM1k for PCIE, Mobo, CPU) > 2008 upgrade AM3 cpu (pay RM1k++ for DDR2/DDR3, mobo, CPU)

Our suggested way:
Athlon XP > 2006 upgrade AM2 (pay RM1k for PCIE, Mobo, CPU) > 2008 upgrade AM3 cpu (pay RM400+/- CPU)

I donno ar, i still think upgrading straight away to AM2 is much viable the buying s939.. Well performance wise is almost the same so why not just buy something that would save u the hassle in the future... just my 2 cents ar...

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LOL   wat use to get a future technology which is not really functioninig  well and stable yet?
Remeber the story of RD ram on pentium 4 ?
Remember last 3 years AMD64 in order to use windows64bit??? Where is 64bit OS? Till now every1 still gaming, doing daily operation on 32bit windows.
DDR800 ????? Would you buy 2gb ddr800 now?? wat if the moment the launch am3, a better cheap set already come out ? Make your am2 only capable to run 70% performance of am3? even VIA low end chipset run better than ur am2? Then those initially using 939, waste a simple rm200 already can get a board with much better technology than am2.
What if suddenly AMD got better technology research out, change the soket to AMD superb .......  then AM2 would be facing the same life path as S754.
Yet, amd got say AM2 will support  AM3, AM4. Don't care they say until Am10, they suddenly tell u soket need to change due to the advancement of technology, what can u do? What use a future motherboard with a noob procesor runing on it. Don't make sence. I rather get a good 939 processor.

No flaming,  just my 2 to 10 cent   thumbup.gif
My opinion is better buy a stable, mature,cheap technology, rather than future, unusual technology.
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That give us no reason to upgrade com? And stay what we using now forever? Because, Technology is growing. Another few years conroe will phase out and replace by other model. So you mean wait and wait wait? No bad joke for today. rclxms.gif

Basically, Socket 939 and AM2 are priced at the same price or if not, it is Rm1-5 more expensive. But it more FutureProof Compare to S939 which will be discontinue soon. Also one more thing , AMD will continue develope AM2 for the next 1 and half year and A64 Rev G will be appear end of December . Next mainstream Dual Core 3600+ with 256*2 L2 cache will be available on AM2 only.


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My opinion is better buy a stable, mature,cheap technology, rather than future, unusual technology.

Everyone opinion is different on this.
We need to remember this, Socket939/754 already gonna phased out and their are Our yesterday Technology which using DDR1. Socket M2 will be amd new flagship to against intel for today. Anti-HT and 65nm technology will be appear in 2 quatter.

Dota map keep on upgrading and upgrade, why not we stick at Stable, Mature map like 6.27b and dont touch newer ver? Ask yourself. laugh.gif rclxm9.gif rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(Windy87 @ Jul 21 2006, 04:25 PM)
That give us no reason to upgrade com? And stay what we using now forever? Because, Technology is growing. Another few years conroe will phase out and replace by other model. So you mean wait and wait wait? No bad joke for today.  rclxms.gif

Basically, Socket 939 and AM2 are priced at the same price or if not, it is Rm1-5 more expensive. But it more FutureProof Compare to S939 which will be discontinue soon. Also one more thing , AMD will continue develope AM2 for the next 1 and half year and A64 Rev G will be appear end of December . Next mainstream Dual Core 3600+ with 256*2 L2 cache will be available on AM2 only.
Everyone opinion is different on this.
We need to remember this, Socket939/754 already gonna phased out and their are Our yesterday Technology which using DDR1. Socket M2 will be amd new flagship to against intel for today. Anti-HT and 65nm technology will be appear in 2 quatter.

Dota map keep on upgrading and upgrade, why not we stick at Stable, Mature map like 6.27b and dont touch newer ver? Ask yourself.  laugh.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ToGo @ Jul 21 2006, 08:17 AM)
LOL   wat use to get a future technology which is not really functioninig  well and stable yet?
Remeber the story of RD ram on pentium 4 ?
Remember last 3 years AMD64 in order to use windows64bit??? Where is 64bit OS? Till now every1 still gaming, doing daily operation on 32bit windows.
DDR800 ????? Would you buy 2gb ddr800 now?? wat if the moment the launch am3, a better cheap set already come out ? Make your am2 only capable to run 70% performance of am3? even VIA low end chipset run better than ur am2? Then those initially using 939, waste a simple rm200 already can get a board with much better technology than am2.
What if suddenly AMD got better technology research out, change the soket to AMD superb .......  then AM2 would be facing the same life path as S754.
Yet, amd got say AM2 will support  AM3, AM4. Don't care they say until Am10, they suddenly tell u soket need to change due to the advancement of technology, what can u do? What use a future motherboard with a noob procesor runing on it. Don't make sence. I rather get a good 939 processor.

No flaming,  just my 2 to 10 cent   thumbup.gif
My opinion is better buy a stable, mature,cheap technology, rather than future, unusual technology.
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You're looking at perspective of 939->940. Hey, did i ask you to upgrade from 939 to 940?? If already using 939, there's no reason to go for AM2.

However, I'm using socket A previously. There's no way to upgrade CPU already. AGP also fast dying. SATA also cannot use. Anything i buy also be a waste of money coz it'll be obsolete (like a new IDE HDD...same price as SATA, AGP...what for???).

From Socket A-> to 939, i only save on the RAM (need to buy PCI-E GPU, CPU, MOBO, SATA HDD), furthermore buying a mobo that is already going obsolete and has less future re-sale value soon.

From Socket A->to AM2, i need the extra RAM + everything else as per 939. this mean, i can sell my old RAM and cover back most of the cost there. Why not?

Even if you dun care about AMx compatibility, you still has the benefit of upgrading your CPU the next few years. 939 already obsolete and production of 939 CPU will stop soon.

Let me make it clear to you the Pros/cons (from a Socket A or older rig):

AM2
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Future CPU upgrade still good for a few years.
Has longer life span
Longer re-sale value life span

939
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Future CPU upgrade doubtful, end production soon. by the time top of the line X2 price drop to mainstream level, you won't find it anywhere.
Life span to end soon
Re-sale value going down fast


And the price:
I've already calculated for my config, same hw, for AM2 it's RM1495, 939 is RM1,230.

That's only RM 265 difference. Once i sell off my old RAM, the difference is really insignificant.

Stability? There's no reason AM2 should be unstable, it's nothing new really, just 939 with an extra pin to support DDR2 RAM. The core tech is the same. Why worry??? tongue.gif

Please give me one good reason why i should go for 939(instaed of AM2) for an existing Socket A or older rig user when the price is the SAME!!!!

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lol.. i'm using s754.. want to upgrade AM2, why i need to upgrade s939 if i must buy new mobo+cpu?
ddr2 is another story.. don't tell me it's not stable while intel user running it fine..
i like to upgrade so what's the prob?

if no ppl willing to buy new tech don't u ever want new tech at affordable price..
it's just like investment no big deal..
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Uhh....we r going out of topic. This thread is becoming new tech vs old tech?doh.gif

Fantasykenny....Sempron 3000+ AM2 is 1600MHz (u did maths mistake?doh.gif)
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Uhh....we r going out of topic. This thread is becoming new tech vs old tech?doh.gif

Fantasykenny....Sempron 3000+ AM2 is 1600MHz (u did maths mistake?doh.gif)
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bro dont want to change ka?
maybe this week i want to setup new AM2 rig.. cannot tahan ler.. up there my friend cucuk² me...
want to play with new toys..
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bro dont want to change ka?
maybe this week i want to setup new AM2 rig.. cannot tahan ler.. up there my friend cucuk² me...
want to play with new toys..
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No $. LOL... I just picked up a sempron64 2800+...doing 2.5GHz at stock vcore. I will wait until people sponsor me AM2 mobo first. rclxm9.gif
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LOL  wat use to get a future technology which is not really functioninig  well and stable yet?
Remeber the story of RD ram on pentium 4 ?
Remember last 3 years AMD64 in order to use windows64bit??? Where is 64bit OS? Till now every1 still gaming, doing daily operation on 32bit windows.
[b]DDR800 ????? Would you buy 2gb ddr800 now??wat if the moment the launch am3, a better cheap set already come out ? Make your am2 only capable to run 70% performance of am3? even VIA low end chipset run better than ur am2? Then those initially using 939, waste a simple rm200 already can get a board with much better technology than am2.
What if suddenly AMD got better technology research out, change the soket to AMD superb .......  then AM2 would be facing the same life path as S754.
Yet, amd got say AM2 will support  AM3, AM4. Don't care they say until Am10, they suddenly tell u soket need to change due to the advancement of technology, what can u do? What use a future motherboard with a noob procesor runing on it. Don't make sence. I rather get a good 939 processor.

No flaming,  just my 2 to 10 cent  thumbup.gif
My opinion is better buy a stable, mature,cheap technology, rather than future, unusual technology.
no offence but, probably you need to do more research and more reading factual stuffs instead of rumours and news, or just purely using your own theoretical ideas.

1. Why do you keep stressing about DDR800? you don't need DDR800 to run an AM2 rig. DDR667 is fine enough.... heck even DDR533 is compatible as well.

2. Getting S939? You must be joking. by the end of the year (Dec 31).... it will be EOL already, if you haven't read the news. Smart buyer would either go for AM2, or if they're rich enough they might just go for Conroe.... not S939 (those who are already on S939 is a different story).

3. How mature is AM2? Mature enough that nobody complains as for now. AM2 is K8 technology as well, just the same as S754 and S939, no difference except for the implementation of DDR2 memory controller. If you're saying AM2 is not mature, that might as well as saying S939 or S754 not yet mature. Motherboard chipsets? AM2 runs with nForce4 quite well, that's the option if they feel not really confident with nForce500-series. DDR2 not mature? Come on..... DDR2 has been around for quite some time. DDR is yesterday... and soon it will meet the same fate as SDRAM. At least DDR2 is much cheaper than DDR nowadays.

4. Future technology? What future technology are you talking about? If something is already here, it's not the future anymore.

5. And one last thing... if you wait till AM3 release.... maybe S939 has no more resale value already.... just like AMD K6, Pentium III etc. Those who needs to sell their S939 rig probably lost a lot.

Oh ya... no flamming, just my 2 cents as well.
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How can i set the timing for DDRII in Biostar Tforce 6100? I seem cant find anything similiar to my S939 DFI inifnity. I cant find where to set the Cas Latency and the bios DRAM configuration got too many stuff to play.
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QUOTE(Cyclone87 @ Jul 21 2006, 08:31 PM)
How can i set the timing for DDRII in Biostar Tforce 6100? I seem cant find anything similiar to my S939 DFI inifnity. I cant find where to set the Cas Latency and the bios DRAM configuration got too many stuff to play.
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try pressing ctrl+f1 in bios....


how's the temp on AM2...17-19 degrees normal or not?
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Nood o/c here:

I've absolutely no idea what i was doing.

My AMD64 3000+ multiplier is 9.0

So i set:
HTT=250Mhz
SB TO FSB (HT multiplier???)=800Mhz
RAM=266Mhz. (my RAM is DDR 667)

The result is (according to nvidia control panel):
Reference clock (HTT)=250Mhz
CPU frequency=2,250Mhz
HT bus frequency=1,000Mhz
Memory bus frequency=665(DDR2)

Is this good or bad??
All i heard is the HT bus should be kept at 1000?? I dare not go any higher...am i doing the correct thing here??

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QUOTE(beetle_larvae @ Jul 22 2006, 12:36 AM)
how's the temp on AM2...17-19 degrees normal or not?
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is it really 19degrees using stock cooler? cool...

if i want to pair this AM2 with Scythe Mine..will it reach 15degrees?? drool.gif

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QUOTE(syarat @ Jul 22 2006, 01:58 AM)
is it really 19degrees using stock cooler? cool...

if i want to pair this AM2 with Scythe Mine..will it reach 15degrees?? drool.gif
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wow lol is that even logic? Lower than ambient temperaure? Or you live at north pole?
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QUOTE(woundxp @ Jul 22 2006, 02:36 AM)
wow lol is that even logic? Lower than ambient temperaure? Or you live at north pole?
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i dunno...bug maybe/change with system temp...bios read 20-23...windows 17-19....

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but if run prime...

case increase 2 degrees...cpu 13 degrees....
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r u using wc coz <30 is kinda cool for idle cpu

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QUOTE(syarat @ Jul 22 2006, 01:58 AM)
is it really 19degrees using stock cooler? cool...

if i want to pair this AM2 with Scythe Mine..will it reach 15degrees?? drool.gif
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Muahahaha... where got only 19 degrees ler... Mine is using stock cooler n the temp controller is reading idle 41 degree n full load 46-50 degrees...
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QUOTE(woundxp @ Jul 22 2006, 02:36 AM)
wow lol is that even logic? Lower than ambient temperaure? Or you live at north pole?
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Ha...ha...i think something wrong with sensor there. Unless using some super-cooling nitrogen freezing solution, unlikely be that low..


btw, guys, anyone can help with my OC question previously? I still dunno what i'm doing is right or wrong.

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QUOTE(beetle_larvae @ Jul 22 2006, 03:46 AM)
but if run prime...

case increase 2 degrees...cpu 13 degrees....
so idle temp is really 19 degrees? rclxub.gif
bro...care to share us your specs? icon_idea.gif
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cheap am2 setup
im using gigabyte M51s2g RM325
KVR 512 Hynix 533 RM150
Sempron 2800+ manila RM145

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cheap am2 setup
im using gigabyte M51s2g RM325
        KVR 512 Hynix 533 RM150
  Sempron 2800+ manila RM145
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eh.. stock heatsink?? mayb got some problem with thermal sensor like Matrix said coz abit unbelieveable

been googling for am2 temp but couldnt find 1 for ref

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try TC's "Core Temp" - A program for accurate K8 temperature monitoring
it monitors the cpu proc with internal component.
So far my my case, the reading is a lil different ftrom mobo's probe wink.gif
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try TC's "Core Temp" - A program for accurate K8 temperature monitoring
it monitors the cpu proc with internal component.
So far my my case, the reading is a lil different ftrom mobo's probe wink.gif
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damn the core temp software reads 36 degrees for my cpu now sweat.gif
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alaa..only 36 lol..no need to sweat..hehe smile.gif
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haha wanna join this AM2 clan!!!
juz come back from lowyat today
went to pczone n saw the new price for AM2 proc!!!!
x2 3800 is oni for rm590 drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

but before buying wanna ask anyone using biostar tforce 550 mobo
good for oc or not hehe
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Any recommendations on what mobo to get that is reasonably priced (around RM400) and good for overclocking?
Feeling gatal again after the price drop tongue.gif
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Jul 23 2006, 01:49 AM)
Any recommendations on what mobo to get that is reasonably priced (around RM400) and good for overclocking?
Feeling gatal again after the price drop  tongue.gif
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Biostar TForce 550...how the performance, can ask abg soulfly... laugh.gif
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Any recommendations on what mobo to get that is reasonably priced (around RM400) and good for overclocking?
Feeling gatal again after the price drop  tongue.gif
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Just get boards with 570-590 chipset.dun buy 6100.My Giga board 6100 no OC option in bios vmad.gif .Luckily can use software.

Eventho I've been ocing for 5yrs,still cant understand how AM2 Fsb or HTT works.So wanna ask expert here.I cant get past 250HTT if I set DDR2 at 667 in bios...but if set DDR2-400 can go up to 300HTT currently still priming.Why like this one.Set DDR2 667 with lower clock speed or set 400 with higher clock speed better?

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Just get boards with 570-590 chipset.dun buy 6100.My Giga board 6100 no OC option in bios  vmad.gif .Luckily can use software.

Eventho I've been ocing for 5yrs,still cant understand how AM2 Fsb or HTT works.So wanna ask expert here.I cant get past 250HTT if I set DDR2 at 667 in bios...but if set DDR2-400 can go up to 300HTT currently still priming.Why like this one.Set DDR2 667 with lower clock speed or set  400 with higher clock speed better?
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It because your ram run at different speed when you set DDR667 at bios. 250HTT will give it DDR800. You maybe need to adjust the timing abit loose.

What software you using?

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QUOTE(Cyclone87 @ Jul 23 2006, 10:23 AM)
It because your ram run at different speed when you set DDR667 at bios. 250HTT will give it DDR800. You maybe need to adjust the timing abit loose.

What software you using?
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I have one Biostar TForce6100 too. And what worst is, the video not working and memory timing cant adjust manually. This time, 6100 Sux to max.
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QUOTE(beetle_larvae @ Jul 23 2006, 04:50 AM)
Just get boards with 570-590 chipset.dun buy 6100.My Giga board 6100 no OC option in bios  vmad.gif .Luckily can use software.

Eventho I've been ocing for 5yrs,still cant understand how AM2 Fsb or HTT works.So wanna ask expert here.I cant get past 250HTT if I set DDR2 at 667 in bios...but if set DDR2-400 can go up to 300HTT currently still priming.Why like this one.Set DDR2 667 with lower clock speed or set  400 with higher clock speed better?
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if Biostar no the problem this...
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QUOTE(Cyclone87 @ Jul 23 2006, 10:37 AM)
I have one Biostar TForce6100 too. And what worst is, the video not working and memory timing cant adjust manually. This time, 6100 Sux to max.
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sry about the mobo problem
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QUOTE(fantasy_kenny @ Jul 23 2006, 11:08 AM)
wait u send back i change 1 unit to u.... biggrin.gif

sry about the mobo problem
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QUOTE(Cyclone87 @ Jul 23 2006, 11:14 AM)
I already Phobia Onboard GPU mobo, gonna top up For your TForce550.  rclxub.gif
It my 1st and last microAtx mobo.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Cyclone87 @ Jul 23 2006, 11:14 AM)
I already Phobia Onboard GPU mobo, gonna top up For your TForce550.  rclxub.gif
It my 1st and last microAtx mobo.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fantasy_kenny @ Jul 23 2006, 01:44 PM)
u board is my Biostar 1st problem.....
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QUOTE(Cyclone87 @ Jul 23 2006, 01:46 PM)
Maybe this is the 1st batch for Biostar AM2 6100. That why it abit buggy for me. Anyway, you get my Pm rite? Dont change for me another 6100. I top up for Tforce550. IF 2nd one also lidat, den waste postage money nia.
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change TForce 550...

this bios is more better than TForce 6100
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Jul 23 2006, 01:49 AM)
Any recommendations on what mobo to get that is reasonably priced (around RM400) and good for overclocking?
Feeling gatal again after the price drop  tongue.gif
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perhaps Asus suites u..the n570 chipset..forgot the product name..u can google for its results btw.. flex.gif
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QUOTE(syarat @ Jul 23 2006, 02:39 PM)
perhaps Asus suites u..the n570 chipset..forgot the product name..u can google for its results btw.. flex.gif
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at my list juz DFI,Biostar,ABIT is the best

ASUS at AMD Overclocking not best like the brand as this 3....

juz best at Intel Overclocking
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HI i just bought AM2 1 weeks ago

here is my set up
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hey go green, go amd am2 ... probably ppl can save lots of money of TNB bills laugh.gif

i'm selling out my s754 via k8m800 board lar because just gotten 2 GB of free DDR2 ram from my bro's upgrade to conroe ...

going AMD am2 with DDR2-533Mhz ... cheap cool and nice ...

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QUOTE(cre8tif @ Jul 23 2006, 04:56 PM)
hey go green, go amd am2 ... probably ppl can save lots of money of TNB bills laugh.gif

i'm selling out my s754 via k8m800 board lar because just gotten 2 GB of free DDR2 ram from my bro's upgrade to conroe ...

going AMD am2 with DDR2-533Mhz ... cheap cool and nice ...
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QUOTE(mruzian @ Jul 22 2006, 11:41 PM)
but before buying wanna ask anyone using biostar tforce 550 mobo
good for oc or not hehe

QUOTE(KilJim @ Jul 23 2006, 01:49 AM)
Any recommendations on what mobo to get that is reasonably priced (around RM400) and good for overclocking?
Feeling gatal again after the price drop  tongue.gif


budget below RM400 = Biostar Tforce 550 is the current best option. Do not get Biostar Tforce 6100-AM2.... the bios sucks. The only downside to Tforce 550 is that the Vdimm max out at 2.2V.

budget around RM400-RM500 = Any ASUS AM2 should be okay. Or if can wait, DFI Infinity Ultra-M2 should be the best choice.

any budget higher than that suka hati....
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come2 show some oc results so that fellow forumers can see and influence them buying AM2.
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 24 2006, 09:04 AM)
last saturday bought new setup..
quite impressive thought can't oc very high..
just try mild oc yesterday...
lol can't believe i'm on dual core..
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kekeke almost 4800+... sungguh lazat berkerim..
need to study first ler AM2 setup.. gogo X2.. doing default currently.. thinking to flash the new bios... the only lacking of this asus board is vram max 1.95 only... lol.. what a waste... but it's rock stable and rich of others features..
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Waiting this mobo.... tongue.gif

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http://us.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_product_sp...NFINITY&SITE=US

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nice got firewire..
tought mine also got but it's not... very pity..
how much that one?
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nice got firewire..
tought mine also got but it's not... very pity..
how much that one?
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Found review at here :

http://www.overclockzone.com/spin9/review/..._nf_ultraii-m2/

The best is can mod to SLI thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 24 2006, 12:26 PM)
nice got firewire..
tought mine also got but it's not... very pity..
how much that one?
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http://us.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_product_sp...NFINITY&SITE=US

ye? Supports DDR2 533 and DDR2 667 DIMMs
no 800?
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 24 2006, 02:57 PM)
http://us.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_product_sp...NFINITY&SITE=US

ye? Supports DDR2 533 and DDR2 667 DIMMs
no 800?
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Review said can support until DDR800? rclxub.gif

http://www.overclockzone.com/spin9/review/...-m2/index3.html

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 24 2006, 11:32 AM)
kekeke almost 4800+... sungguh lazat berkerim..
need to study first ler AM2 setup.. gogo X2.. doing default currently.. thinking to flash the new bios... the only lacking of this asus board is vram max 1.95 only... lol.. what a waste... but it's rock stable and rich of others features..
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didn't know M2N-E only has 1.95Vdimm max .... you should've gotten Tforce 550 instead, at least Vdimm is max at 2.2V tongue.gif

QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 24 2006, 02:57 PM)
http://us.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_product_sp...NFINITY&SITE=US

ye? Supports DDR2 533 and DDR2 667 DIMMs
no 800?
don't trust the website. on the review the bios supports up to DDR2-800.... and overclocking the ram depends on the memory controller (cpu) not motherboard tongue.gif

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actually that link is official from dfi.. haha.. thought it's should correct...
haih.. that's why i wonder... got all advance ram control.. but vram not reach 2.v..
latest bios also not increase the voltage..
haih even msi can do 2.2v...
waiting dfi board in action... gogo ikan_semilang buy one..
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doh.gif

didn't know M2N-E only has 1.95Vdimm max .... you should've gotten Tforce 550 instead, at least Vdimm is max at 2.2V tongue.gif

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hi there just got my am2 last 2 weeks !!
using t force 550 with corsair ddr2 667
using all stock coolers !!
using auto overclock v12 tech !!

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actually that link is official from dfi.. haha.. thought it's should correct...
haih.. that's why i wonder... got all advance ram control.. but vram not reach 2.v..
latest bios also not increase the voltage..
haih even msi can do 2.2v...
waiting dfi board in action... gogo ikan_semilang buy one..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 24 2006, 09:04 AM)
lol can't believe i'm on dual core..
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lol can't believe i went back to single core, what to do, now is project GT (as in 7600GT). I need the FPS to kill Mexican rebels more quickly (GR:AW).

QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 24 2006, 04:06 PM)
share your AM2 setup lah.... i'm gonna add to the list
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Now pending GC, HDD bracket / IDE Cable (now DVDROM and HDD cannot put near each other due to mobo blocking the lower 5.25 drive bays.

Once done will post. Also will seek the advice of bros here on AM2, first time using AMD...

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sorry here it is.cant change anything except ram timing.but not bad for a micro atx.

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lol can't believe i went back to single core, what to do, now is project GT (as in 7600GT). I need the FPS to kill Mexican rebels more quickly (GR:AW).
Now pending GC, HDD bracket / IDE Cable (now DVDROM and HDD cannot put near each other due to mobo blocking the lower 5.25 drive bays.

Once done will post. Also will seek the advice of bros here on AM2, first time using AMD...
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yup.. dual core seems very fast for me..
play warcraft III 10 insane player alone no lag at all... infact cpu usage around 50-70% only... it's away different with s754 before as i thought gpu bottleneck...

actually 3000+ already enough for gaming.. and put good gpu for latest games is better choice...

just in time got great deal with better cpu and no regret squeeze some more for long term usage... next time just think about great gpu only... thumbup.gif
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Greetings Guyz,
AMD is having a roadshow at LYP this week based on the Digital Lifestyle Fair2 .. but unfortunately I didnt see anything interesting in their booth today just some flyers, show girls ... no product demostration ?? unsure.gif

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QUOTE(HughieRmX @ Jul 24 2006, 06:15 PM)
Greetings Guyz,
AMD is having a roadshow at LYP this week based on the Digital Lifestyle Fair2 .. but unfortunately I didnt see anything interesting in their booth today just some flyers, show girls ... no product demostration ?? unsure.gif

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obasan type... lol!

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http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=483&num=1
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 25 2006, 09:57 AM)
Are the show girls hot or "ah so" type?? That's what more important...not the products!!!  laugh.gif
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obasan type... lol!

i guess the fair is just to 'alert' about the pricedrops ...lol!
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Lolx laugh.gif laugh.gif Quite ok ... not bad also. Ya, I agreed with soulfly that they are trying to push out the price drop for the processors. The booth itself really nothing much to display also. Just flyers and no processors as far as I can see. unsure.gif

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Just got TForce550 biostar from fantasy kenny and the first thing i do in window is test 2.8ghz with memory setting running at default and 2T. My memory score in pcmark lower den my S939 A64 running on DDR466 tight timing. shakehead.gif Gonna prime it later.

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for M2N-E or the SLi ??
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http://us.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_product_sp...NFINITY&SITE=US

ye? Supports DDR2 533 and DDR2 667 DIMMs
no 800?
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Just found bios for DFI

http://us.dfi.com.tw/Support/Download/bios..._FLAG=A&SITE=US

Major Reasons of Change:
1. Fixed some DDRII Module can't run 800MHz 1T timing.
2. Fixed some ECC DDRII Module function failure.
3. Fixed low speed DDR can't run high speed.
4. Fixed SCSI option ROM fail in PCI slot 1 and 2.

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any M2N-E user that hates the Vdimm limit? time for some Vdimm mod... lol!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpo...20&postcount=22
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no tools to do Vdimm mod though look simple..
but i tried last night with 1.95v can go till 233fsb which give DDR 776 (388)..
if only can give me more voltage i can expect to go higher.. no buy DRR800 maybe..
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for M2N-E or the SLi ??
both is just the same.
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I just found out that , TForce550 dont have PCI lock. Anyone to clarify this?
I cant boot with 274HTT at bios no matter what vcore i put. At 274HTT, i prime stable at 1.075v. But 275HTT wont boot at all.
I download Clockgen 1.047 with nForce5 support..and it report my pci is running at 40-50mhz. .

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if i don't wanna OC,what budget board is better for x2 3800+?
biostar 6100 @ msi K9N-neo @ biostar tforce 550 ?

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if i don't wanna OC,what budget board is better for x2 3800+?
biostar 6100 @ msi K9N-neo ?
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Duwan oc kaw kaw, any board also suit you. Infact , that mobo, lack of memory setting. You will need a good memory incase you wan to overclock next time. With a chiplak DDR533/667, you can easily hit 270-300HTT .Above is abit hard because your ram will force to run at CL3.0 .
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im not going to OC at all coz i really dont know how n not brave enough to try. so what board is the best value for money(from my list).
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which one is better for am2 abit kn9 sli or msi kn9 sli platinum?
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QUOTE(yellow_label2207 @ Jul 26 2006, 06:58 PM)
im not going to OC at all coz i really dont know how n not brave enough to try. so what board is the best value for money(from my list).
MSI K9N Neo will do just fine I guess....

or Biostar 6100-AM2 if you like built-in graphics

QUOTE(OniZuKa @ Jul 26 2006, 07:06 PM)
which one is better for am2 abit kn9 sli or msi kn9 sli platinum?
* u mean MSI K9N SLI Platinum? tongue.gif

anyway.... don't have much comment on both mobo, but currently the ABIT KN9 SLI's BIOS is not stable enough.... had issues with certain RAM modules.
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cool.getting the am2 x2 3800+ with biostar 6100 @ K9N neo by next week. drooling already.
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I just found out that , TForce550 dont have PCI lock. Anyone to clarify this?
I cant boot with 274HTT at bios no matter what vcore i put. At 274HTT, i prime stable at 1.075v. But 275HTT wont boot at all.
I download Clockgen 1.047 with nForce5 support..and it report my pci is running at 40-50mhz. .

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I used to have this problem. I'm not pretty sure how did I solve the PCI lock issue.... but I guess BIOS flash helps. You can get the latest one (Bios 703) here: http://www.lejabeach.com/Biostar/6100-550/N5taa703.rar

This BIOS so far allows me to get past 285mhz HTT limit and locks my PCI bus to 33mhz.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 26 2006, 07:20 PM)
I used to have this problem. I'm not pretty sure how did I solve the PCI lock issue.... but I guess BIOS flash helps. You can get the latest one (Bios 703) here: http://www.lejabeach.com/Biostar/6100-550/N5taa703.rar

This BIOS so far allows me to get past 285mhz HTT limit and locks my PCI bus to 33mhz.
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Hmm..but i was using (n5taa615.bst) bios from biostar official web. It should be the latest. Perhaps i should give your bios a try. It really shocking.gif to see my PCI went above 60mhz when i was on 2.8ghz. My Networkcard burn in 3sec . laugh.gif
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what vcore did u use for 2.7ghz?
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 26 2006, 07:34 PM)
what vcore did u use for 2.7ghz?
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2.7ghz stable at 1.35v dota and 3dmark2003/5/6. But I cant set in bios, so cant prime it. Anyway your bios link is broken. doh.gif
Got alternative link?
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http://lejabeach.com/Biostar/6100-550/6100550bios.html

Anyway... what stepping is your Manila?

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 26 2006, 07:51 PM)
http://lejabeach.com/Biostar/6100-550/6100550bios.html

Anyway... what stepping is your Manila?
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LBBVF 0618GPMW.

Someone here is using the same unit as mine. Click here

Anyway, How u flash the bios 703. It said, the string is not match when i using Winflash. You flash in window or bios?

[Edited] Problem Solve. laugh.gif I flash using disket from bios. Now priming at 2.7ghz default. Not bad for a Rm1xx processor. laugh.gif

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not bad eh...... 2.7ghz @ 1.35v

my 0620 SPAW not that good.... default voltage can run 2.7ghz too (3dmark) but not prime stable.

did u add extra volt for chipset or hypertransport?

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2.4ghz sempron vs 1.8ghz a64 who's faster?
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2.4ghz sempron vs 1.8ghz a64 who's faster?
i would say 2.4ghz sempron

clockspeed wins
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 26 2006, 09:09 PM)
not bad eh...... 2.7ghz @ 1.35v

my 0620 SPAW not that good.... default voltage can run 2.7ghz too (3dmark) but not prime stable.

did u add extra volt for chipset or hypertransport?
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Erm, your default not 1.35v? That 1.35v is my default, but i havent prime actually. No time for it. Tonite perhaps

I notice something blocking me again at 340-350HTT like what happen at 275HTT.
I stable 375*8 @ 1.55v at window with clockgen, but in bios, it cant boot.

My hypertransport is 1.25v since i running the ratio at 2x . Chipset voltage is 1.6v. But cpu temp abit crazy. I touch my heatsink abit warm, but temp detected only 21c. rclxub.gif

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my default is 1.35v

but now it's only prime stable at 294 x 9 @ 1.4v .... i refuse to add more voltage at this point....everything performs just nice for now.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 26 2006, 09:33 PM)
my default is 1.35v

but now it's only prime stable at 294 x 9 @ 1.4v .... i refuse to add more voltage at this point....everything performs just nice for now.
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Bring to the max for a week. laugh.gif
I gonna feed mine voltage of 1.5-1.6v and see what it can do. Then stop and find my suitable speed for daily use. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 26 2006, 09:12 PM)
i would say 2.4ghz sempron

clockspeed wins
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oh ok.now waiting for modded bios for giga m51s2g if there's any.cant do shit with this board only play fsb.prime 9 hrs stable at 306x8.if anyone can mod pls helpla thumbup.gif
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errr... guyz which AMD X2 proc & mobo suitable for overclocking?
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QUOTE(Cyclone87 @ Jul 26 2006, 09:39 PM)
Bring to the max for a week.  laugh.gif
I gonna feed mine voltage of 1.5-1.6v and see what it can do. Then stop and find my suitable speed for daily use.  laugh.gif

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well,i left 1 unit same stepping with u....

haha
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well,i left 1 unit same stepping with u....

haha
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Haha, i should thank you for the good stepping actually. Anyway, now still priming 2.7ghz at default voltage. laugh.gif
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errr... guyz which AMD X2 proc & mobo suitable for overclocking?
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ofcourse high cost one..
budget range
dfi infinity.. sure good..
i'm using Asus M2N-E.. this board is stable.. even if u oc and cannot boot at first time becoz of unstable settings..the next time u boot it's hold cpu default so can enter bios easily.. so far no jumper reset while attempting oc..
the only cons is vdimm ram max 1.95.. i'm looking for modding bios..
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QUOTE(Cyclone87 @ Jul 27 2006, 06:44 AM)
Haha, i should thank you for the good stepping actually. Anyway, now still priming 2.7ghz at default voltage.  laugh.gif
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best...

stock voltage can hit over 60% speed....
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errr... guyz which AMD X2 proc & mobo suitable for overclocking?
Processor ...definitely 3800+ X2. Mobo depends on your budget....

My list would go for:
- Biostar Tforce550 ... around RM350
- DFI Infinity UltraII-M2 ...around RM435
- ASUS M2N SLI Deluxe ...around RM790


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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 27 2006, 12:47 PM)
Processor ...definitely 3800+ X2. Mobo depends on your budget....

My list would go for:
- Biostar Tforce550 ... around RM350
- DFI Infinity UltraII-M2 ...around RM435
- ASUS M2N SLI Deluxe ...around RM790
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juz got the DFI infinity NF UltraII-M2 stock...

but no time to test
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 27 2006, 01:47 PM)
Processor ...definitely 3800+ X2. Mobo depends on your budget....

My list would go for:
- Biostar Tforce550 ... around RM350
- DFI Infinity UltraII-M2 ...around RM435
- ASUS M2N SLI Deluxe ...around RM790
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mobo with SLi budget not above RM500.... what bout Jetway mobo?? previous model Jetway 939 GT4SLi i seen my fren using AMD Athlon ES proc single core can OCed till 2.8Ghz...

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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jul 27 2006, 09:54 PM)
mobo with SLi budget not above RM500.... what bout Jetway mobo?? previous model Jetway 939 GT4SLi i seen my fren using AMD Athlon ES proc single core can OCed till 2.8Ghz...
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Athlon64 ES can easily hit 2.8ghz with 14x multiplier and the right voltage. But, jetway brand already busuk. They was once caught using normal or even low end capasitor for their OC-Con mobo but claim it was 100% jap capasitor. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(fantasy_kenny @ Jul 27 2006, 08:53 PM)
juz got the DFI infinity NF UltraII-M2 stock...

but no time to test
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can tell max vdimm and vcore?

QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jul 27 2006, 09:54 PM)
mobo with SLi budget not above RM500.... what bout Jetway mobo?? previous model Jetway 939 GT4SLi i seen my fren using AMD Athlon ES proc single core can OCed till 2.8Ghz...
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i wonder u use or not sli setup..
the cheapest sli board i saw in lowyat plaza is msi @ Rm550..
maybe got someone selling other board in the LYN..
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the only² review for Asus MN2-E board..
http://upvolt.net/M2NE.aspx
hard to find ...
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 28 2006, 10:59 AM)
can tell max vdimm and vcore?
if not mistaken, 2.5vdimm and 1.85vcore

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 28 2006, 11:59 AM)
can tell max vdimm and vcore?
i wonder u use or not sli setup..
the cheapest sli board i saw in lowyat plaza is msi @ Rm550..
maybe got someone selling other board in the LYN..
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Gigabyte GA-M55SLI-S4 NF4 SLI selling RM400 at cycom...

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Going to buy Sempron 2800+ AM2 + Biostar 6100 AM2 + 512 Advance Module DDR533 RAM. Any comments on this spec (especially for Biostar 6100 AM2 )?
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Avoid BIOSTAR 6100-AM2 if possible.... that board really sucks... I mean in term of overclocking. The BIOS option is very limited.

But if you're just planning to use it normally, then it should be okay.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 29 2006, 07:06 PM)
Avoid BIOSTAR 6100-AM2 if possible.... that board really sucks... I mean in term of overclocking. The BIOS option is very limited.

But if you're just planning to use it normally, then it should be okay.
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I heard a lot Biostar value mobo got a many warranty return too...

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yup...

it's not that wise to concentrate QC on enthusiasts model only (TForce)


...but even TForce 6100-AM2 bios sucks too .... and includes other nF4 based TForce AM2 as well (many found so).... different from the nF500 series

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guys,
im building a pc for my bro...
can advise a little kaa???
not enuff time to do research.

Thanx.

Am2 most probably 2g<<<<<adviseable to get higher speed or oc a little kaa?
1gb ram
Biostar nf550
Enlight maybe 400w<<<<enuff kaa?
7300gt

just normal use......MAYBE oc cpu a little only heheheheh
think can play latest game kaaa???hehhehe

Thanx...alot.

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I would say.... AM2 3000+, BIOSTAR TForce 550, 2x512MB Kingston 667, 7300GT DDR3 with Enlight 400W (atx 2.0) will do just fine. Definitely can play the latest game, but not full resolution with all the eye candy tuned up la.

I can play The Godfather (the first game i play with my current rig) with the same setup (with half ram size though) .... at 1024 x 768, all graphic options turned on/high, and anisotropic 3x & anti-aliasing at 4x ..... just smooth.
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thanx lot bro..

im off getting the AM2 now ...

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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jul 28 2006, 10:11 PM)
Gigabyte GA-M55SLI-S4 NF4 SLI selling RM400 at cycom...
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erm.. oc option quite good...
cpu voltage : 0.008v-1.750v
ddr2 : +0.1v,+0.2v,+0.3v (donno how they rate.. maybe base on ram v and add on ie:1.8+0.3)
fsb : 200-456
didn't see htt mul.. could be a prob..
got fire wire.. but nf4..
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 29 2006, 06:06 PM)
Avoid BIOSTAR 6100-AM2 if possible.... that board really sucks... I mean in term of overclocking. The BIOS option is very limited.

But if you're just planning to use it normally, then it should be okay.
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hehe... bought 3 of it, because budget user. no oc. it's rm260 only. really suits my friends budget pc. and most importantly with build in vga. lol
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Hi guys need some feedback.

I using AM2 3500+ w/ Asus M2N-E mobo. New to O/C, so not sure whether I am doing it right.

My BIOS Setting:
FSB: 230
Multiplier: 11x
HTT: 4x
PCIE: 100 MHz
DRAM: 533 MHz
Cooling: Stock
Voltages: Default

Then in nvidia Monitor I see the result:
CPU: 2530MHz
HTT: 920MHz
RAM: 612MHz

I run SP2004 for 8 hours , no errors.
Temps: CPU Idle 39C Load: 54C
Mobo Idle 36C Load 44C

Is this correct way to O/C?






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should be correct..
what ram timing? 4-4-4-11?
try 5-5-5-12 look can go further or not.. or just give more voltage..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 31 2006, 12:17 PM)
should be correct..
what ram timing? 4-4-4-11?
try 5-5-5-12 look can go further or not.. or just give more voltage..
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I think timing was 4-4-4-12 then got one 17, and 2T setting (gotta check when I get home)

I wanted to change that but not sure how. Also I dunno current memory voltage, so is risky to up the setting... need to read up on RAM O/C.

CPU is quite hot though, but I see so few AM2 coolers around...

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at 2.6ghz @ 1.4v, my cpu is at around 50'C-51'C

maybe your ambient temperature is slightly higher, thus contributing to slightly hotter cpu
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otherwise put ram as 400 and increase the fsb/vcore more..
ram setting can be changed at cpu setting
not jumper free menu..
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guys...

What about MSI K9n Ultra???ok or not????
maybe scrap to get biostar frm fantasy kenny...due to hehehe my confidence level lah....

any where else to get biostar in lyp???
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platinum is ok.. not sure about ultra.. but neo lack of vcore adjustment if not mistaken... though vdimm 2.2v
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guys...

What about MSI K9n Ultra???ok or not????
maybe scrap to get biostar frm fantasy kenny...due to hehehe my confidence level lah....

any where else to get biostar in lyp???
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You can get it from ATE shop.
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Between Gigabyte and Biostar AM2 which is better in OC?
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 31 2006, 01:13 PM)
at 2.6ghz @ 1.4v, my cpu is at around 50'C-51'C

maybe your ambient temperature is slightly higher, thus contributing to slightly hotter cpu
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My ambient / mobo is around 36C, but ya its under the table and I only got a 80mm fan as exhaust so its not as good, I wanted 120mm exhaust but cannot find a nice case with that feature (for my budget).



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otherwise put ram as 400 and increase the fsb/vcore more..
ram setting can be changed at cpu setting
not jumper free menu..
Cool man. I think that will allow me to increase FSB by quite a bit more, and also the Vcore. Will try when I get home. Also considering aftermarket HSF. Laterlah, my credit card bursted oredi after buying 2 rigs...



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QUOTE(fd_magnuz @ Jul 31 2006, 03:44 PM)
Between Gigabyte and Biostar AM2 which is better in OC?
BIOSTAR TForce 550

QUOTE(CV6149 @ Jul 31 2006, 01:45 PM)
guys...

What about MSI K9n Ultra???ok or not????
maybe scrap to get biostar frm fantasy kenny...due to hehehe my confidence level lah....

any where else to get biostar in lyp???
There are many shop in LYP that sells BIOSTAR.

Compuzone
CYCOM

two good shops....
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Will be joining the clan soon as i am getting one also...hopefully soon...

My Soon-To-Be-Specs:

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get corsair pc5300 lah.... price just around the same
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 31 2006, 09:30 PM)
get corsair pc5300 lah.... price just around the same
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ya lor... but im not sure the difference...
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check out the one i highlighted. its only rm10 difference smile.gif


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QUOTE(fd_magnuz @ Jul 31 2006, 03:44 PM)
Between Gigabyte and Biostar AM2 which is better in OC?
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budget gigabytes lack of oc capability though stable..

QUOTE(vey99 @ Jul 31 2006, 03:45 PM)
My ambient / mobo is around 36C, but ya its under the table and I only got a 80mm fan as exhaust so its not as good, I wanted 120mm exhaust but cannot find a nice case with that feature (for my budget).
CM centurion 5 got 120mm fan at behind.. price RM150~190..
me using it.. side panel.. if ur psu cable long enough can hide at behind so not so crowded.. screwless somemore..
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if wan use 1G ram on biostar tforce 550, better 1 x 1g, or 2 x 512mb ??

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check out the one i highlighted. its only rm10 difference smile.gif
i knew that its only a few riggit more...but performance any diffence?
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QUOTE(t(-.-t) @ Aug 1 2006, 05:49 PM)
if wan use 1G ram on biostar tforce 550, better 1 x 1g, or 2 x 512mb ??

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QUOTE(t(-.-t) @ Aug 1 2006, 05:49 PM)
if wan use 1G ram on biostar tforce 550, better 1 x 1g, or 2 x 512mb ??

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2x512MB la....must benefit the dual channel mode

later if you want 2GB... just get another 2x512MB

with 4 modules.... 4-way interleaving makes performance better

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Guys add me to the AM2 owner list tongue.gif i wanna try some overclocking but i'm a total noob in overclocking pc stuff as this is my 1st gaming rig i have. this is my rig, izzit good enough to overclock?

AMD64 AM2 3500+ 2.2GHz (stock cooler)
GigaByte GA-M55-S4 SLI NF4
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a little tips to oc.. increase your fsb in bios to 210-220... yeah u oced..
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fsb in bios eh? i need to add some pros on my msn and guide me while i OC my rig tongue.gif maybe later
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QUOTE(TerryZeroX @ Aug 2 2006, 09:30 AM)
fsb in bios eh? i need to add some pros on my msn and guide me while i OC my rig tongue.gif maybe later
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Read the AMD64 OC thread, u can gain much info from that thread..learn step by step like me tongue.gif

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 1 2006, 10:30 AM)
CM centurion 5 got 120mm fan at behind.. price RM150~190..
me using it.. side panel.. if ur psu cable long enough can hide at behind so not so crowded.. screwless somemore..
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Argh! Now you make me wanna go out and get one ... I so busy buying last week I check my Credit Card I almost fainted hehe. Now looking for a nice AM2 HSF and Centurion 5 maybe sweat.gif
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between ASUS M2N-E & BIOSTAR TForce 550 ,which one is better?
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QUOTE(syazone @ Aug 2 2006, 05:09 PM)
between ASUS M2N-E & BIOSTAR TForce 550 ,which one is better?
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I also thinking about it when I bought my AMD rig 2 weeks ago. M2N-E is RM60 more and its different chipset also, 570U, hard to compare.

Key points for me in selecting M2N-E:
1) Support DDR533 (biostar website say tf550 support 667/800) and I have spare 1GB
2) Supposedly better O/C since 570 chipset
3) Cool looking heatpipe (i'm a sucker for good looks)


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QUOTE(vey99 @ Aug 2 2006, 04:19 PM)
Argh! Now you make me wanna go out and get one ... I so busy buying last week I check my Credit Card I almost fainted hehe. Now looking for a nice AM2 HSF and Centurion 5 maybe  sweat.gif
thermaltake big typhoon (use back amd stock clips)

if not... arctic cooling freezer64 pro thumbup.gif

QUOTE(syazone @ Aug 2 2006, 05:09 PM)
between ASUS M2N-E & BIOSTAR TForce 550 ,which one is better?
overclocking flexibility and value .... BIOSTAR TForce 550 wins

ASUS M2N-E had extra functions though.... overclock not bad, more simpler bios.

...differences...

M2N-E
- 1x PCI-e 4x
- 3x PCI
- 6x SATA2 ports, support RAID 5
- Vdimm option max 1.95v

TForce 550
- 2x PCI-e 1x
- 4x PCI
- 4x SATA2 ports
- Vdimm option max 2.2v

everything else is just the same... you can compare the spec of nforce 570 ultra and nforce 550 from nvidia website. just think for yourself whether you need those extra SATA ports or PCI-e 4x slot.

But for me... if I could afford M2N-E.... I would rather get DFI Infinity UltraII-M2 icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(F@NT@sy_G@RRic @ Aug 2 2006, 10:03 PM)
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DFI Infinity NF ULTRAII -M2
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Patriot 521MB DDR2-533 x2
wah...the first one to use DFI M2!!!! rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 2 2006, 10:29 PM)

ASUS M2N-E had extra functions though.... overclock not bad, more simpler bios.

...differences...

M2N-E
- 1x PCI-e 4x
- 3x PCI
- 6x SATA2 ports, support RAID 5
- Vdimm option max 1.95v

TForce 550
- 2x PCI-e 1x
- 4x PCI
- 4x SATA2 ports
- Vdimm option max 2.2v

everything else is just the same... you can compare the spec of nforce 570 ultra and nforce 550 from nvidia website. just think for yourself whether you need those extra SATA ports or PCI-e 4x slot.

But for me... if I could afford M2N-E.... I would rather get DFI Infinity UltraII-M2  icon_idea.gif

wah...the first one to use DFI M2!!!!  rclxms.gif
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mmmmm how come? DFI M2 better? its still using Nforce 4 rite? .... i'm still doubt when is the best time to build am2 system since next weekend is pc fair, whether price will decrease or not rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(syazone @ Aug 2 2006, 11:38 PM)
mmmmm how come? DFI M2 better? its still using Nforce 4 rite? .... i'm still doubt when is the best time to build am2 system since next weekend is pc fair, whether price will decrease or not rclxub.gif
in term of overclocking capability, DFI M2 is much-much better in term of BIOS configuration.... although it's nF4.

besides... it can be easily modded to SLI tongue.gif

p/s: in overclockers united.... we always discuss in the context of overclocking

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 1 2006, 08:19 PM)
2x512MB la....must benefit the dual channel mode

later if you want 2GB... just get another 2x512MB

with 4 modules.... 4-way interleaving makes performance better
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thanks for enlighten me notworthy.gif
after google it, now understand how it works edi laugh.gif

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tf550 support 667/800


suppor 533 also rite??
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 2 2006, 10:29 PM)
wah...the first one to use DFI M2!!!!  rclxms.gif
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I think i have the lousiest mobo here sad.gif every1 is using DFI lol
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I think i have the lousiest mobo here  sad.gif  every1 is using DFI lol
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lol u got SLI..
tell us what's the bios option u got there..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 3 2006, 10:11 AM)
lol u got SLI..
tell us what's the bios option u got there..
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Aug 2 2006, 06:52 PM)
I also thinking about it when I bought my AMD rig 2 weeks ago. M2N-E is RM60 more and its different chipset also, 570U, hard to compare.

Key points for me in selecting M2N-E:
1) Support DDR533 (biostar website say tf550 support 667/800) and I have spare 1GB
2) Supposedly better O/C since 570 chipset
3) Cool looking heatpipe (i'm a sucker for good looks)
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thanks for enlighten me  notworthy.gif
after google it, now understand how it works edi  laugh.gif
suppor 533 also rite??
TForce 550 supports 400/533/667/800 (the BIOS said so).

Memory speed support depends on processor, not motherboard... in case of K8 of course.

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 3 2006, 11:17 AM)
TForce 550 supports 400/533/667/800 (the BIOS said so).

Memory speed support depends on processor, not motherboard... in case of K8 of course.
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Then their website should indicate it , it was one of the key factor I din't choose it also, RM60 diff I could use elsewhre ya doh.gif but oklah, so far i use asus boards no complains

But for HSF, I got spare TT golden orb 2, the backplate provided is 2 holes to screw on mobo, but I see my mobo is 4 holes for backplate. The TT Golden Orb on the box says support K8 and Socket 940. Dude at the shop told me AM2 can use one, socket 940 mah... Any comments?
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Cannot use.... the shop dude know nuts about AM2, maybe he thinks that it's the same as Socket-940 while it is not.

Only clip based heatsink which is compatible with AM2 retention bracket, or a backplate that uses 4-holes which can be fitted through AM2 mobos.


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QUOTE(vey99 @ Aug 3 2006, 04:05 PM)
Then their website should indicate it , it was one of the key factor I din't choose it also, RM60 diff I could use elsewhre ya  doh.gif  but oklah, so far i use asus boards no complains

But for HSF, I got spare TT golden orb 2, the backplate provided is 2 holes to screw on mobo, but I see my mobo is 4 holes for backplate. The TT Golden Orb on the box says support K8 and Socket 940. Dude at the shop told me AM2 can use one, socket 940 mah... Any comments?
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dude.. that's why i sold my zalman cnps9500LED..though very good cooler..
s940 mean for those server proc.. not AM2..
the only problem is the clip.. if only can get the clip fit.. it's consider done..

i not see many AM2 cooler.. for zalman got other version.. cnps9500LED AM2 which is green led.. can be used for all platform..

so for tips.. better search that's stated 'AM2'
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 3 2006, 04:34 PM)
dude.. that's why i sold my zalman cnps9500LED..though very good cooler..
s940 mean for those server proc.. not AM2..
the only problem is the clip.. if only can get the clip fit.. it's consider done..

i not see many AM2 cooler.. for zalman got other version.. cnps9500LED AM2 which is green led.. can be used for all platform..

so for tips.. better search that's stated 'AM2'
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The bulk order dude also say AM2 no stock but 9500LED can use, I dont believe also. ANyway will have to hunt around in LYP and see if they have nice AM2 HSF.
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Aug 3 2006, 04:05 PM)
Then their website should indicate it , it was one of the key factor I din't choose it also, RM60 diff I could use elsewhre ya  doh.gif  but oklah, so far i use asus boards no complains

But for HSF, I got spare TT golden orb 2, the backplate provided is 2 holes to screw on mobo, but I see my mobo is 4 holes for backplate. The TT Golden Orb on the box says support K8 and Socket 940. Dude at the shop told me AM2 can use one, socket 940 mah... Any comments?
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Shop Dude, always never keep their knowledge up to date. Find out ourself next time. By looking, we can actually tell Golden Orb is not compatible with Am2.

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QUOTE(D@rk @ Aug 3 2006, 05:44 PM)
Shop Dude, always never keep their knowledge up to date. Find out ourself next time. By looking, we can actually tell Golden Orb is not compatible with Am2.

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Nolah, the Golden Orb is my spare HSF when I was setting up a couple of LGA775 PCs... din't buy it specially for my AM2 rig...
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AM2 recommended heatsink list
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro
Thermalright XP-90 (must use with Thermalright AM2 RM Rev.B)
Thermaltake Blue Orb 2
Zalman CNPS9500 AM2

p/s: regret selling my previous XP-90 vmad.gif

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now i'm wait zalman 9500 am2 come to malaysia laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 3 2006, 08:02 PM)
AM2 recommended heatsink list
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro
Thermalright XP-90 (must use with Thermalright AM2 RM Rev.B)
Thermaltake Blue Orb 2
Zalman CNPS9500 AM2

p/s: regret selling my previous XP-90  vmad.gif
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Thermalright XP-90 (must use with Thermalright AM2 RM Rev.B)
Additonal bracket? I just sold my Xp90 too. And Coolermaster Vortex TX also support it. Now stock heatsink giving good temp too. 44c at 2.8ghz prime.
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actually DFI and Abit also is a good choice for overclocking and get better high performance.
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ya i love dfi thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
nice to oc flex.gif flex.gif
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anyone got this temp?? i'm using tforce 550 !!



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QUOTE(ah_fong @ Aug 3 2006, 10:20 PM)
anyone got this temp?? i'm using tforce 550 !!
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Dont worry mate, my TForce550 giving me 23C when i priming. But use external sensor to check our own temp. My own thermometer show 44C , but window detect 23C.
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why i install fan in my system fan cant detect the rpm speed ? even in bios also ?
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I don't even use the tools included with the TF550 mobo CD..... too buggy

tools I use:
voltage/fan speed/temperature : Speedfan
cpu temp : Core Temp

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.... no fancy utilities

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Errr guys i wanna try to oc my proc but is my mobo good enough to do slight oc? lets say from 2.2ghz to 2.4ghz? my mobo is Gigabyte GA-M55SLI-S4 NF4 SLI
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Errr guys i wanna try to oc my proc but is my mobo good enough to do slight oc? lets say from 2.2ghz to 2.4ghz? my mobo is Gigabyte GA-M55SLI-S4 NF4 SLI
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lol i told u already.. let us know ur bios option..
especially cpu voltage, ram voltage, ram timming setting, htt multiplier
u need to observe the bios than we will know can oc or not..
if u really want to try... increase the fsb from 200 to 220 in 2-5 incremental..
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Guys,

I O/C my 3500+/M2N-E to:
FSB 230 / Mult 11x / HTT 4x / DRAM 533 4-4-4-12 / PEG disabled / stock volts

Run SP2004 8hrs ok, superPI ok.

But then I reboot, it stuck at the bios screen (Asus Logo).

Any comments?
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normally we call them 'warm boot' and 'cold boot'..
http://www.smartcomputing.com/editorial/di...yclopedia&guid=

actually we need to study about it further..
http://www.comptechdoc.org/hardware/pc/pcboot.html

for the simple way.. during POST.. cpu or ram not receive correct voltage to initiate them to on.. this could be bios problem psu or the mobo itself...
i'm also waiting the latest bios to resolve this issue...
me also using M2N-E.. it's rock stable when able to log windows..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 4 2006, 11:57 AM)
normally we call them 'warm boot' and 'cold boot'..
http://www.smartcomputing.com/editorial/di...yclopedia&guid=

actually we need to study about it further..
http://www.comptechdoc.org/hardware/pc/pcboot.html

for the simple way.. during POST.. cpu or ram not receive correct voltage to initiate them to on.. this could be bios problem psu or the mobo itself...
i'm also waiting the latest bios to resolve this issue...
me also using M2N-E.. it's rock stable when able to log windows..
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Hmm I better try a bios update first and see how, hope its fixed. Thanks for the link.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 4 2006, 01:29 AM)
I don't even use the tools included with the TF550 mobo CD..... too buggy

tools I use:
voltage/fan speed/temperature : Speedfan
cpu temp : Core Temp

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can give me the link to down those 2 software??
thx!!

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Here's my uncompleted rig

AMD 3800+ X2 Windsor
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Stock Fan Cooler

bought yesterday but havent test it yet coz waiting for my cheap DDR2 533

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can give me the link to down those 2 software??
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http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/forum...topic.php?t=137
http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 4 2006, 09:11 AM)
lol i told u already.. let us know ur bios option..
especially cpu voltage, ram voltage, ram timming setting, htt multiplier
u need to observe the bios than we will know can oc or not..
if u really want to try... increase the fsb from 200 to 220 in 2-5 incremental..
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alritez... i'll go home and gather the info for ya smile.gif i'm currently in my office working sweat.gif so tonite i'll start my proc overclocking rclxm9.gif
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can i join?? tongue.gif

Here's my uncompleted rig

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Samsung 2x512MB DDR2 533Mhz (incoming)
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bought yesterday but havent test it yet coz waiting for my cheap DDR2 533
welcome aboard ... nice processor there. what's the stepping?
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 4 2006, 06:59 PM)
welcome aboard ... nice processor there. what's the stepping?
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QUOTE(camedemac @ Aug 4 2006, 01:22 PM)
can i join?? tongue.gif

Here's my uncompleted rig

AMD 3800+ X2 Windsor
Biostar TForce 550
Samsung 2x512MB DDR2 533Mhz (incoming)
Stock Fan Cooler

bought yesterday but havent test it yet coz waiting for my cheap DDR2 533
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Bought it already ek bro? Nice parts u get there. Waiting ur oc result. What ram u wanna get? Mine still hold on at the moment... laugh.gif

Re-edit: Didn't see Samsung 2x512MB DDR2 533Mhz (incoming)

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AMD 3500+ AM2 / Asus M2N-E / KVR533 1GB @ 2.7GHz, 1 .4250V (+50mV)
Idle CPU 41C, Mobo 44C // Load CPU 67C, Mobo 47C

Looks stable so far but I gotta get more cooling power at this speed.

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 5 2006, 03:59 AM)
Bought it already ek bro? Nice parts u get there. Waiting ur oc result. What ram u wanna get? Mine still hold on at the moment... laugh.gif

Re-edit: Didn't see Samsung 2x512MB DDR2 533Mhz (incoming)
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really have a tight budget.. only can afford 533MHz oni tongue.gif
for me, its worth upgrading from my old system la bro..!!
googling around and its a really big jump of upgrading notworthy.gif
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Idle CPU 41C, Mobo 44C
Load CPU 67C, Mobo 47C
Looks stable so far but I gotta get more cooling power at this speed...
bro... seriously your PSU voltage rail looks dangerous

+12v @ 11.3v is.... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 5 2006, 11:05 AM)
bro... seriously your PSU voltage rail looks dangerous

+12v @ 11.3v is.... sweat.gif
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Bro, now I tension oredi, I took this screenshot early this morning b4 I came to work... what should my 12V be like? Please advise. Is this the one connect to the mobo? I got a 7600GT and also up my vcore from 1.42 to 1.425...

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Decided to build a new AMD system. My old rig=total trash!

*AMD X2 4400+ (RM850-Cycom) <----Is this price-tag true? Other shop sell for 1K+
*Any bang-for-bucks MSI/GB/ASUS 570U chipset motherboard
*1GB 667Mhz
*MSI NX7600GT-VT2D256E-HD (RM685-TMatch) <----Is this real too? VIVO card btw.



Also plan to do a SLI system. What's your fellow ppl's view? I'm not that hardcore gamer at all facing the screen 24/7. But I want to try out Advance Warfighter.
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Aug 5 2006, 11:34 AM)
Bro, now I tension oredi, I took this screenshot early this morning b4 I came to work... what should my 12V be like? Please advise. Is this the one connect to the mobo? I got a 7600GT and also up my vcore from 1.42 to 1.425...
I suggest you get Enermax since you overclock ... the FMA series Enermax offers good value/performance compare to other brand within the same level. The 7600GT might consume not as much power as high end cards, but who knows the current it draws from the PSU.

QUOTE(sukun @ Aug 5 2006, 12:10 PM)
Decided to build a new AMD system. My old rig=total trash!

*AMD X2 4400+ (RM850-Cycom) <----Is this price-tag true? Other shop sell for 1K+
*Any bang-for-bucks MSI/GB/ASUS 570U chipset motherboard
*1GB 667Mhz
*MSI NX7600GT-VT2D256E-HD (RM685-TMatch) <----Is this real too? VIVO card btw.
Also plan to do a SLI system. What's your fellow ppl's view? I'm not that hardcore gamer at all facing the screen 24/7. But I want to try out Advance Warfighter.
AM2 4400+ is RM910 in CYCOM pricelist. The one u saw selling for RM850 is S939.

570U mobo... I recommend ASUS M2N-E

RAM .... I suggest 1GB 667 from Corsair (look for the dark colour PCB, in the garage section Ash has some.

SLI is a waste if you don't really do much gaming. Just go for a single high performance card.
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QUOTE(sukun @ Aug 5 2006, 12:10 PM)
Decided to build a new AMD system. My old rig=total trash!

*AMD X2 4400+ (RM850-Cycom) <----Is this price-tag true? Other shop sell for 1K+
*Any bang-for-bucks MSI/GB/ASUS 570U chipset motherboard
*1GB 667Mhz
*MSI NX7600GT-VT2D256E-HD (RM685-TMatch) <----Is this real too? VIVO card btw.
Also plan to do a SLI system. What's your fellow ppl's view? I'm not that hardcore gamer at all facing the screen 24/7. But I want to try out Advance Warfighter.
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From the current trend ppl are getting :
CPU: AMD X2 3800+ // Mobo: Biostar TF550 // RAM : 1GB 667 // GC: Winfast or XFX 7600GT
I suppose such spec is value+ performance. Advance Warfighter will run at max setting if your GC's ram is 512 and above. But my single 7600GT runs the game smoothly enough.

QUOTE(soulfly)
I suggest you get Enermax since you overclock ... the FMA series Enermax offers good value/performance compare to other brand within the same level. The 7600GT might consume not as much power as high end cards, but who knows the current it draws from the PSU.
I got CM Extreme Power 380W, I though should cope with this ... cry.gif maybe I run the CPU at stock to see whats the result. Should the voltage be somewhere like 10+ instead of 11.3V? Thanks..




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AM2 4400+ is RM910 in CYCOM pricelist. The one u saw selling for RM850 is S939.

570U mobo... I recommend ASUS M2N-E

RAM .... I suggest 1GB 667 from Corsair (look for the dark colour PCB, in the garage section Ash has some.

SLI is a waste if you don't really do much gaming. Just go for a single high performance card.
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Actually does processor cache gives a big impact or not? Like comparing between Pentium D 930 & AM2 X2 4400+

Will it show a big gap of performance difference?
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Aug 5 2006, 12:17 PM)
From the current trend ppl are getting :
CPU: AMD X2 3800+ // Mobo: Biostar TF550 // RAM : 1GB 667 // GC: Winfast or XFX 7600GT
I suppose such spec is value+ performance. Advance Warfighter will run at max setting if your GC's ram is 512 and above. But my single 7600GT runs the game smoothly enough.
same spec with me except my X300Se and DDR 533(incoming) tongue.gif

planning to get 7300GT, coz it is low budget but performance also not bad wink.gif

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QUOTE(camedemac @ Aug 5 2006, 12:35 PM)
planning to get 7300GT, coz it is low budget but performance also not bad wink.gif
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Thats the hot GC now but depends on what game, like I play Oblivion/GRAW/FEAR, turns out these games need higher power GC so I end up wif 7600GT.

QUOTE(sukun)
Actually does processor cache gives a big impact or not? Like comparing between Pentium D 930 & AM2 X2 4400+
Will it show a big gap of performance difference?
You can compare here:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html
and see that the 4400+ is better but for that price you should be comparing wif the 950 ... or C2D ...
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@soulfly add me into the clan too biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Aug 5 2006, 12:51 PM)
Thats the hot GC now but depends on what game, like I play Oblivion/GRAW/FEAR, turns out these games need higher power GC so I end up wif 7600GT.
not a gamer.. just play racing games oni like nfs u/g 1,2 n most wanted..
wanna upgrade coz want to see higher benchmark from my old gc oni tongue.gif
coz this x300se is the super low end in pci-e gc family laugh.gif

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My hand itchy already. Maybe in 1-2 days will looking at Low Yat Plaza and join ur league. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 5 2006, 01:57 PM)
My hand itchy already. Maybe in 1-2 days will looking at Low Yat Plaza and join ur league. rclxm9.gif
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at last, bro ikan join the club..!! whistling.gif
not only ur hand, but ur eyes n mind also cannot tahan already laugh.gif
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Darn.... I'm tempted to get the DFI Infinity M2 mobo vmad.gif

2.5v max Vdimm is sweet!
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 5 2006, 02:48 PM)
Darn.... I'm tempted to get the DFI Infinity M2 mobo vmad.gif

2.5v max Vdimm is sweet!
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any sign of OCZ want to produce DDR2 Booster?? whistling.gif

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QUOTE(camedemac @ Aug 5 2006, 02:37 PM)
at last, bro ikan join the club..!! whistling.gif
not only ur hand, but ur eyes n mind also cannot tahan already laugh.gif
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Most shop at Low Yat just sell it at bundle with mobo. Need waiting more stock coming. sweat.gif

QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 5 2006, 02:48 PM)
Darn.... I'm tempted to get the DFI Infinity M2 mobo vmad.gif

2.5v max Vdimm is sweet!
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Grab it la. Just fantasy_kenny and johnny loo have sell this mobo. How to u want juiced ur Micron? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 5 2006, 03:34 PM)
Most shop at Low Yat just sell it at bundle with mobo. Need waiting more stock coming. sweat.gif
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yeah.. my case (at viewnet) first ly i only ask about the proc.. than the seller seems like blur-blur and said want to check the stock first (but it seems like he 'malas' want to check the stock) then i said wanna bundle with mobo, then he quickly check the stock with the computer there and said 'ya, ada stock'.. after that, he take the proc under the rack there.. 'they 'sorok' the stock only..!! shakehead.gif

i think they r not shortage stock but they will sell if u buy bundle with mobo.. doh.gif
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finally..my amd system is in..

Orleans 3200+
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bro soulfly..plz add me to the list will ya?
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fuuh.. mushkin.. what chip use on it??
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I saw today pricelist from hardwarezone, it seems Viewnet have Mushkin ram is RM420 for DDR800. Is it worth getting that one? Two sticks of 512 @RM230 each?

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QUOTE(camedemac @ Aug 5 2006, 04:28 PM)
fuuh.. mushkin.. what chip use on it??

If it's Mushkin's value, I think it's Aeneon... not too sure, but high probability

QUOTE(vey99 @ Aug 5 2006, 04:44 PM)
I saw today pricelist from hardwarezone, it seems Viewnet have Mushkin ram is RM420 for DDR800. Is it worth getting that one? Two sticks of 512 @RM230 each?
which Mushkin series?

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If it's Mushkin's value, I think it's Aeneon... not too sure, but high probability
which Mushkin series?
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No idea, but the item is listed under valueram section. Now googling to see what it could be
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 5 2006, 04:45 PM)
which Mushkin series?
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i think its enhanced series coz from the website dont have value series on DDR2 800

http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/enhanc...alue_memory.asp
http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/enhanc...nced_memory.asp


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Enhanced series are Aeneon (Infineon) chips.

EM2-6400 CL5-5-5-12
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Im planning on getting this platform :

X2 AM2 3800+
Biostar Tforce550
1GB Corsair Value Select DDR2-667 x2
XFX 7900GT

Should I get the DFI Ultra-II? What's its price?

Anyone use 7900GT here? I see lots of 7600GT. I want to play FEAR and Oblivion at 1280x1024res, thought I needed the extra muscle and also survive two years w/o becoming obsolete (cannot run at high settings). With such a card, will 2gb of ram make a difference over 1gb?

How far are prices expected to drop in PC Fair anyway, at least for my specs?
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well i can play oblivion at ok fps with my 7600GT at stock speeds with 1280x1024 res smile.gif and its at 1gb ram
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Hi guys, pls give me your opinion on the following specs:

Athlon 64 bit X2 3800+ dualcore (AM2)
Asus M2NPV-VM
Mushkin PC667 DDR2 512MB x2

Is this m/b a good choice? If not, any recommendations? I don't play much games, but I think right now AMD dualcore (AM2) seems to be a practical choice (moneywise & qualitywise)! smile.gif
Thanks!

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QUOTE(Merlin_of_light @ Aug 5 2006, 10:09 PM)
Im planning on getting this platform :

X2 AM2 3800+
Biostar Tforce550
1GB Corsair Value Select DDR2-667 x2
XFX 7900GT

Should I get the DFI Ultra-II? What's its price?

Anyone use 7900GT here? I see lots of 7600GT. I want to play FEAR and Oblivion at 1280x1024res, thought I needed the extra muscle and also survive two years w/o becoming obsolete (cannot run at high settings). With such a card, will 2gb of ram make a difference over 1gb?

How far are prices expected to drop in PC Fair anyway, at least for my specs?
I don't think there's any price drop for RAM or CPU during PC Fair... for other stuffs, maybe.

Anyway... DFI UltraII-M2.... fantasy_kenny is selling them at RM435. Dunno about shops.

QUOTE(mm004 @ Aug 5 2006, 11:15 PM)
Hi guys, pls give me your opinion on the following specs:

Athlon  64 bit X2 3800+ dualcore (AM2)
Asus M2NPV-VM
Mushkin PC667 DDR2 512MB x2

Is this m/b a good choice? If not, any recommendations?  I don't play much games, but I think right now AMD dualcore (AM2) seems to be a practical choice (moneywise & qualitywise)! smile.gif
Thanks!
Your choice is quite okay... but I would rather get Kingston or Corsair based DDR2 instead of Mushkin because the price is not that attractive.... unless you're talking about Mushkin XP-series
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 5 2006, 11:25 PM)
I don't think there's any price drop for RAM or CPU during PC Fair... for other stuffs, maybe.

Anyway... DFI UltraII-M2.... fantasy_kenny is selling them at RM435. Dunno about shops.

Your choice is quite okay... but I would rather get Kingston or Corsair based DDR2 instead of Mushkin because the price is not that attractive.... unless you're talking about Mushkin XP-series
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but viewnet sell Mushkin 512MB 667 around RM180 i think, just add RM5 from corsair.. wonder which one is better... rclxub.gif
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Thanks, yep, Corsair is a reliable brand. So is Corsair DDR2-667 better than Kingston DDR2-667?
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QUOTE(camedemac @ Aug 6 2006, 12:16 AM)
but viewnet sell Mushkin 512MB 667 around RM180 i think, just add RM5 from corsair.. wonder which one is better... rclxub.gif
Get Kingston ... RM165 only.

to me... RM15 means a lot... dunno about you lah.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 6 2006, 12:22 AM)
Get Kingston ... RM165 only.

to me... RM15 means a lot... dunno about you lah.
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actually dunno about mushkin, izzit worth for brand or money.. thats why i'm asking sweat.gif
if the performance really good, for me its worth spending on it.. but if just lil bit.. then go for kingston tongue.gif

dont hav money oso laa bro.. tongue.gif only spending money for 2nd hand ram laugh.gif
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my intention was to buy corsair value select at first place, but says viewnet they will always bring in mushkin, not just temporary..so, i grab these mushkin loh..next time i can buy another and pair it for dual channel.. rclxms.gif btw..it is not the enhanced or tuner series..

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After OC'ing a mobo, what software can I use to stress-test the platform for stability? I'd like to know the diagnostic utilities available to make sure the OC'ed platform can tahan the rigours and pushes the system in an automated (vs manually like playing games) since I dont hav all day to stare at the PC.
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Prime95 should do that and also nvidia ntune if your mobo has nvidia nforce chipset
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Thinking of buying AM2 here..my pc right now is still sempron 2400+ socket A. lol!

I guess it is time. Just to get more opinion after i research this few hardware. Im not an extreme OCer, but i do OC most of the time. I might buy during PC Fair or end of this month.

Here is what in my mind + current price:

- AM2 Athlon 64Bit 3800+ RM560
- Infinity NF UltraII-M2/G RM435 or Abit KN9-SLI RM560
- Corsair PC6400 DDR2 1GB (2 x 512MB) (5-5-5-12) [XMS2] RM600 or
Patriot PC6400 DDR2 1GB (2x512MB) (4-4-4-12) [Extreme Performance] RM600 or
GSkill PC6400 DDR2 1GB (2x512MB) (4-4-4-12) RM580 or
Team Xtreem PC6400 DDR2 1GB (2x512MB) (4-4-4-10) RM590

The rest of the component, i will determine it later.

Have fun.

p.s wrong type..as below..lol!

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QUOTE(bloodvampire @ Aug 6 2006, 11:09 AM)
Thinking of buying AM2 here..my pc right now is still sempron 2400+ socket A. lol!

I guess it is time. Just to get more opinion after i research this few hardware. Im not an extreme OCer, but i do OC most of the time. I might buy during PC Fair or end of this month.

Here is what in my mind + current price:

- AM2 Athlon 64Bit 3800+ RM560
- Infinity NF UltraII-N2 RM560 or Abit KN9-SLI RM435
- Corsair PC6400 DDR2 1GB (2 x 512MB) (5-5-5-12) [XMS2]  RM600 or
  Patriot PC6400 DDR2 1GB (2x512MB) (4-4-4-12) [Extreme Performance] RM600 or
  GSkill PC6400 DDR2 1GB (2x512MB) (4-4-4-12) RM580 or
  Team Xtreem PC6400 DDR2 1GB (2x512MB) (4-4-4-10) RM590

The rest of the component, i will determine it later.

Have fun.
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DFI Infinity NF UltraII-N2???? rclxub.gif Never seen this model b4. Mind to link?
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bro...fantasy_kenny selling the DFI Infinity UltraII-M2 at only RM435

... which shop is that cekik darah one selling rm560?
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I think its DFI Infinity NFII Ultra
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Abit KN9-SLI:
-CPU Vcore up to 2.100v
-Memory Vdimm up to 2.30v

MSI K9N-SLI Platinium:
-CPU Vcore up to 1.450v
-Memory Vdimm up to 2.45v

DFI Infinity NF Ultra II-M2/G
-CPU Vcore up to 1.750v?
-Memory Vdimm up to 2.50v?
Cannot really find a review on it.


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QUOTE(RyuzakiKagezashi @ Aug 6 2006, 11:24 AM)
I think its DFI Infinity NFII Ultra
w00t! that is the old socket-A board la laugh.gif

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Lol..yeah..wrong typo lar.huhuhu....biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bloodvampire @ Aug 6 2006, 12:01 PM)
DFI Infinity NF Ultra II-M2/G
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Can share with us which shop have selling this mobo? Most shop at Low Yat Plaza not yet bring this mobo. doh.gif
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 6 2006, 12:07 PM)
Can share with us which shop have selling this mobo? Most shop at Low Yat Plaza not yet bring this mobo. doh.gif
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fantasy_kenny
he is selling it.

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okeyh.. just wanna ask..!!

i just got my ram 2x512MB samsung..

one is single sided n another one is double sided..!!

using Biostar TForce 550
the board has 4 Dimm Slot
from the manual i read, it said the system will run dual channel if put the ram in:

Dimm 1 + Dimm 2
Dimm 3 + Dimm 4
Dimm 1 + Dimm 2 + Dimm 3 + Dimm 4

wat i wanna ask is, whether i put it in dimm 1 + dimm 2 or dimm 3 + dimm 4, it still running single channel.. izzit bcoz of ram?? sweat.gif
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i think it's because the modules do not have equal chips, that's why it's running single channel. it's not like socket A where you can actually mix any capacity of ram because it's not 'true-dual channel'.
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probably because of the single-sided and double-sided thing.
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haha
DFI Infinity NF Ultra II-M2/G this mobo so good
cheap.....rm4** only can got SLI
bahan mobo good also
no support ddr2 800mhz but u can oc to 800mhz hehe
me 1.45v can run 3.0ghz
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QUOTE(F@NT@sy_G@RRic @ Aug 6 2006, 09:05 PM)
haha
DFI Infinity NF Ultra II-M2/G this mobo so good
cheap.....rm4** only can got SLI
bahan mobo good also
no support ddr2 800mhz but u can oc to 800mhz hehe
me 1.45v can run 3.0ghz
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 6 2006, 09:31 PM)
Damn...when i can get his mobo....fantasy not always online... vmad.gif  laugh.gif
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2 morrow la
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QUOTE(F@NT@sy_G@RRic @ Aug 6 2006, 09:38 PM)
hehe JB pc fair la
2 morrow la
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 6 2006, 09:52 PM)
Wait...wait....if can't wait Asus M2N-E in my next listing.... laugh.gif
M2N-E only have 1.95vdimm max.... unless you want to hardmod tongue.gif

QUOTE(F@NT@sy_G@RRic @ Aug 6 2006, 09:05 PM)
haha
DFI Infinity NF Ultra II-M2/G this mobo so good
cheap.....rm4** only can got SLI
bahan mobo good also
no support ddr2 800mhz but u can oc to 800mhz hehe
me 1.45v can run 3.0ghz
DDR800 for dual core
DDR667 for single core

it actually refers to default memory divider.... not memory speed. that's why you can always overclock up to DDR1200 if you like tongue.gif
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Care to share the BIOS spec? HT Bus, Max Cpu core voltage, Max Memory Vdimm and etc? Thanks in advance F@NT@sy_G@RRic.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 6 2006, 07:36 PM)
i think it's because the modules do not have equal chips, that's why it's running single channel. it's not like socket A where you can actually mix any capacity of ram because it's not 'true-dual channel'.
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yeah. i think so.. my old socket A run dual channel with kingston n apacer ram cool.gif

QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 6 2006, 09:31 PM)
Damn...when i can get his mobo....fantasy not always online... vmad.gif  laugh.gif
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go try run 1200mhz with timing 10101020
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QUOTE(camedemac @ Aug 6 2006, 10:30 PM)
yeah. i think so.. my old socket A run dual channel with kingston n apacer ram cool.gif
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Get another double sided ram for make dual channel la.. whistling.gif


Who anybody plan wanna using old Thermalright cooler, get this bracket but must rev B... laugh.gif

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that's why i really regret selling my xp-90 doh.gif
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 6 2006, 10:51 PM)
that's why i really regret selling my xp-90 doh.gif
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can ask from bulk order mah

but last time...seriously thought that such bracket will not exist doh.gif
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Just got quotation from shop at Low Yat. For mobo DFI Infinity NF Ultra II-M2/G need pre-order and the price is RM410. Just asking if bundle with X2 3800+ will total RM970. Waiting in da list. laugh.gif
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i want the bracket also
who can bulk pm me ok
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 6 2006, 10:42 PM)
Get another double sided ram for make dual channel la.. whistling.gif
Who anybody plan wanna using old Thermalright cooler, get this bracket but must rev B... laugh.gif

Si-97A,XP-90,XP-90C,XP-120, Ulta-90 K8, Ultra-90A K8 and HR01

http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_pr...s.htm#acc_am2_b

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 7 2006, 06:54 PM)
Just got quotation from shop at Low Yat. For mobo DFI Infinity NF Ultra II-M2/G need pre-order and the price is RM410. Just asking if bundle with X2 3800+ will total RM970. Waiting in da list. laugh.gif
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wow..that is a good price. hope you will get it soon. and which shop did u approach?
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hehe soulfy i join the AM2 X2 now~ add me in list yap~

still noob in OC am2 hope all could help~
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is there such thing as memory brand called Patrick?

i thought it's Patriot .... lol!
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 8 2006, 10:40 AM)
is there such thing as memory brand called Patrick?

i thought it's Patriot .... lol!
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Lol, Patrick like name friend Sponge Bob Squarepants... laugh.gif Mind share links that ram? tongue.gif
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Look like i am the only one using Biostar TForce 4 Ultra AM2. blink.gif This MoBo got problem or less features? Y nobody using it?
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QUOTE(DarkWonder @ Aug 8 2006, 11:16 AM)
Look like i am the only one using Biostar TForce 4 Ultra AM2. blink.gif This MoBo got problem or less features? Y nobody using it?
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 8 2006, 11:22 AM)
U not lonely... laugh.gif

3800+ X2 Windsor F2 | camedemac | BIOSTAR TForce 550 | Samsung DDR2-533 | stock AMD cooler
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QUOTE(DarkWonder @ Aug 8 2006, 11:16 AM)
Look like i am the only one using Biostar TForce 4 Ultra AM2. blink.gif This MoBo got problem or less features? Y nobody using it?
TForce 4U lack of BIOS overclocking options compare to TForce 550/570/590

Same goes with TForce 6100-AM2.
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 6 2006, 09:52 PM)
Wait...wait....if can't wait Asus M2N-E in my next listing.... laugh.gif
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lol.. wait somemore ler later got DFI..
eager to see the oc capabilities.. caiyo²..
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 8 2006, 01:05 PM)
TForce 4U lack of BIOS overclocking options compare to TForce 550/570/590

Same goes with TForce 6100-AM2.
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any solution for this? icon_question.gif If not, want to sell this baby and get a better Mobo.
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want to ask...

single sided or double sided,
which one better for overclocking in terms of tight timing and push to high frequency?? unsure.gif

heard that single sided give better results for overclocking whistling.gif

need ur opinion
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One more noob question, if i didnt overclock the proc, with mid end GC and 1GB DDR2 667Mhz RAM, most of the game in this market i can play or not?

Btw, can add me to the list? my spec is:
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Any idea which shop still selling ram with chipset Micron? Hard to find.... sweat.gif
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Any idea which shop still selling ram with chipset Micron? Hard to find.... sweat.gif
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btw, it CVS Rams smile.gif

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QUOTE(DarkWonder @ Aug 8 2006, 02:30 PM)
One more noob question, if i didnt overclock the proc, with mid end GC and 1GB DDR2 667Mhz RAM, most of the game in this market i can play or not?

Btw, can add me to the list? my spec is:
AMD 3200 OrleansF2,
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7600gt is ok.. but if u can oc ur 7300gt maybe can save ur budget..
why ur rig not good eh?
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QUOTE(DarkWonder @ Aug 8 2006, 02:30 PM)
One more noob question, if i didnt overclock the proc, with mid end GC and 1GB DDR2 667Mhz RAM, most of the game in this market i can play or not?

7300GT 128MB DDR3
I bought the 7600GT cos my X1300Pro was so weak. I suppose you can play all the games, just how high res and detial you want only... my monitor is 19" so I got a better card to play higher resolution...
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Aug 8 2006, 03:57 PM)
All I.T has em'
btw, it CVS Rams  smile.gif
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Thanks Gengstapo. Will looking forward it. icon_rolleyes.gif
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now it runin' at 400FSB whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 8 2006, 11:22 AM)
U not lonely... laugh.gif

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I just realise i m lonely. Only me with sempron while all on athlon64.  cry.gif
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QUOTE(DarkWonder @ Aug 8 2006, 02:11 PM)
any solution for this? icon_question.gif If not, want to sell this baby and get a better Mobo.
If you don't mind spending a little bit more, I would suggest that you get DFI Infinity UltraII-M2. The board is quite flexible with high HTT speeds and overclocks quite well. The NF4 Ultra chip is quite mature as well. The only cons is just that the mobo looks plain, and no guarantee of SLI-modding (depends on chipset revision).

The TForce550 in the other hand looks nice and clocks well, but with certain limitations. For example, the current BIOS releases still have bugs especially with memory dividers. Sempron seemed to have not much problem, but Athlon64 has. There's not much issue if you run everything at default though.... at least none to be found personally by me. The only downside is just that the DDR voltage maximum is only 2.2V, unless you do some minor mod (refer to hardmodding section) which the board can support up to 2.4V safely. Excessive modding will be exceeding the board's circuitary limit.
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The TForce550 in the other hand looks nice and clocks well, but with certain limitations. For example, the current BIOS releases still have bugs especially with memory dividers. Sempron seemed to have not much problem, but Athlon64 has. There's not much issue if you run everything at default though.... at least none to be found personally by me. The only downside is just that the DDR voltage maximum is only 2.2V, unless you do some minor mod (refer to hardmodding section) which the board can support up to 2.4V safely. Excessive modding will be exceeding the board's circuitary limit.
How does TForce550 BIOS support X2 then? By the way I heard from a vendor Biostar Tforce550 stock throughout the country sold out shocking.gif athlon 3000+ stock does not exist anymore shocking.gif and XFX 7900GT isn't good shocking.gif and he recommend Gigabyte. How much truth is in this??

And btw, I dont live in KL so I hope you guys can clear matters for me and my friend who is rather desperate to get his hands on a new amd system.

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QUOTE(Merlin_of_light @ Aug 8 2006, 08:14 PM)
How does TForce550 BIOS support X2 then? By the way I heard from a supplier Biostar Tforce550 stock throughout the country sold out  shocking.gif  athlon 3000+ stock does not exist anymore  shocking.gif  and XFX 7900GT isn't good  shocking.gif  and he recommend Gigabyte. How much truth is in this??
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I have been check with ATE today and got new stock Biostar TForce 550 just coming today. I'm go there because just pre-order DFI Infinity UltraII-M2 and tomorrow will get then pair with x2 3800+.
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so you are pairing x2 wif tforce550 or UltraII-M2? Or both? If Tforce550, or anyone out there who has paired X2 with Tforce550 do tell me if it's OK!

Thanks for d info. I believe am2 athlon 3000+ still available for sale....no?
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there is still A64 3000+
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QUOTE(Merlin_of_light @ Aug 8 2006, 08:25 PM)
so you are pairing x2 wif tforce550 or UltraII-M2? Or both? If Tforce550, or anyone out there who has paired X2 with Tforce550 do tell me if it's OK!

Thanks for d info. I believe am2 athlon 3000+ still available for sale....no?
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Pairing x2 with UltraII-M2.

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there is still A64 3000+
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So anyone here with X2/Tforce550 pair?

Why would DFI use an older chipset? Any disadvantages? One big advantage I see is it supports 4 PATA compared to just 2 in newer mobo.

I have a question. Is the stock HSF thermal paste good enough? Apologies, but Im a noob when it comes to AMD.

If it isn't, should I get Artic Silver or Artic Ceramique? I know Silver is the best but where I stay violent lightning storms occur frequently and rapidly. Silver is a good electric conduit. I have concerns about the material increasing the likelyhood of my CPU being fried by a lighting strike right outside my house due to static electricity in the atmosphere. Sometimes the first lighting strikes fall in my neigbourhood, so there's little warning to shut down my PC.

I know some people who used Ceramique for this very reason. Myth, or fact? Please advise. FYI, my room has those old-style narco type windows (was it narco? many glass panels that rotate to close/open by use of a lever) unlike modern glass panel windows which may have greater protection against onrushing static energy from a lighting.
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new chip support more sata..
i think that's the only difference.. amd cpu got builtin mem controller.. so mobo chip not affect much..
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QUOTE(Merlin_of_light @ Aug 8 2006, 09:08 PM)
If it isn't, should I get Artic Silver or Artic Ceramique? I know Silver is the best but where I stay violent lightning storms occur frequently and rapidly. Silver is a good electric conduit. I have concerns about the material increasing the likelyhood of my CPU being fried by a lighting strike right outside my house due to static electricity in the atmosphere. Sometimes the first lighting strikes fall in my neigbourhood, so there's little warning to shut down my PC.

I know some people who used Ceramique for this very reason. Myth, or fact?
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Bro, if lightning hits your PC I don't think you need to worry about whether you use AS or not... nor should you worry about AS which is sandwiched in between your cpu and HSF will attract lightning or not...

Anyway if you don't OC no need better thermal paste lah, stock temps are usually o.k. I only use it because I itchy fingers, bought a few tubes to play around ...
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no no....

I mean lightning strike OUTSIDE the house and fry the PC with static electricity in the atmosphere. NOT via power lines into the PC. If via power lines sorry lar, something or everything will fry. And my room is not air-conditioned. It gets pretty hot at mid-day, even at night.

An overheating X2 is a real concern. Someone told me AMD HSF speed are slower and less reliable than Intel HSF. How is it now, for AM2 HSF?

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no no....

I mean lightning strike OUTSIDE the house and fry the PC with static electricity in the atmosphere. NOT via power lines into the PC. If via power lines sorry lar, something or everything will fry. And my room is not air-conditioned. It gets pretty hot at mid-day, even at night.

An overheating X2 is a real concern. Someone told me AMD HSF speed are slower and less reliable than Intel HSF. How is it now, for AM2 HSF?
who's that idiot?

Intel heatsinks are often loud (not sure about Core2Duo). Pentium D is much more hotter than X2.

At stock speeds, even with bump up voltage to 1.5v.... my temps hardly reached more than 45'C on a hot afternoon.

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Idiot? Haha. I used to say how nooby oth ppl were cos they insist buying P4 or PD over s939 because AMD = OVERHEAT and brand those that insist it was not true fanboys. I know for a fact X2 is cooler and more efficient than PD. But how good is the QC of AMD HSF? Just a concern, before jumping to AMD since most guys I know that use AMD change their HSF on the spot. I plan on doing slight oc'ing only.
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there are several OEM that produce heatsink for AMD... I know CoolerMaster and AVF are some of them.

There are many AMD user that do overclock using stock heatsink and does not have any problem at all.

In term of QC.... it takes very long time for the fan to get noisy/faulty.
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Great. Thanks for the info. Ive placed an order for X2 3800+, Biostar Tforce550, 1GB Corsair VS DDR667, Seagate Barracuda 80GB 16mb buffer (does 16mb buffer exist for 80GB version? I dont see them in low yat pricelist, but there was in my vendor's)

The only thing holding me back is the decision to buy XFX 7900GT (stock speed) or 7600GT. How bad the 7900GT problems really are? The majority are factory oc'ed cards but some were at stock speed. I'll just have to wait for this question to be answered elsewhere.
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try to look for brands that don't seemed to be affected by the problem

i've heard about XFX having problem ... not sure about others


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Know any one who has stock 7900GT and runs FEAR and/or Oblivion at high settings and high res for long hours w/o encountering errors?

How well does Tforce550 support overclocking of X2? camedemac, if you see this and is doing oc, do tell.
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QUOTE(Merlin_of_light @ Aug 9 2006, 01:42 PM)
Know any one who has stock 7900GT and runs FEAR and/or Oblivion at high settings and high res for long hours w/o encountering errors?

How well does Tforce550 support overclocking of X2? camedemac, if you see this and is doing oc, do tell.
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Ram = 512MB Samsung DDR2 533 oc to DDR 600
Vdimm = 2.1v
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All i can say, my system rite now is rock solid stable thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

Edited : Forgot to tell doh.gif do multitasking while priming my proc.. as stated at picture..!! whistling.gif

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while using cpu-z (ver 1.35) wrongly report the vcore.. use asus probe should be correct i think.. but for ur case better look on vcore2 temp at speedfan..
i've tried mine untill 2.45ghz.. then stop coz afraid reaching out 1.6v..
acreasing 2.4 to 2.45 will increase the temp merely 60C on load..
2.4 seems fast enough for me.. just playing 2.1ghz for all in stock.. accept tight the ram..
how far can your proc go?
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1gb ddr667 ram should be enough for the system for the moment. If loading times are to slow and lags intolerable I'll add another 1gb to make it 2!
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 9 2006, 02:42 PM)
while using cpu-z (ver 1.35) wrongly report the vcore.. use asus probe should be correct i think.. but for ur case better look on vcore2 temp at speedfan..
i've tried mine untill 2.45ghz.. then stop coz afraid reaching out 1.6v..
acreasing 2.4 to 2.45 will increase the temp merely 60C on load..
2.4 seems fast enough for me.. just playing 2.1ghz for all in stock.. accept tight the ram..
how far can your proc go?
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i believe that the vcore is correct coz check with all software (cpuz, speedfan, amd software, etc) all give the same vcore..

i never try oc higher coz scared when looking at temperature sweat.gif

i thought the vcore2 is the chipset voltage.

my board is biostar sweat.gif not asus

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if u look my screenshot here..
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=316293&st=80

i really cannot rely on cpu-z.. i saw alot of cpu-z reading errors especially on vcore... donno which one can rely.. but i looked asus probe coz same as bios..

just precaution though if ur correct vcore reading higher than u thought/saw... it could fry ur proc..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 9 2006, 05:43 PM)
if u look my screenshot here..
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=316293&st=80

i really cannot rely on cpu-z.. i saw alot of cpu-z reading errors especially on vcore... donno which one can rely.. but i looked asus probe coz same as bios..

just precaution though if ur correct vcore reading higher than u thought/saw... it could fry ur proc..
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hmm... unsure.gif
i donnu about this oso.. sweat.gif

coz my majority i look at bios, cpuz, other software, around plus minus 1.32v sweat.gif

waiting for update bios..!!

anyway, whats ur proc stepping?? unsure.gif
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any tforce 550 user had problem in temperature and vcore accuracy??

i check at bios, Core Temp, Speedfan, TForce Moniter, etc...
it seems that all the reading cannot be trust at all. tongue.gif
any idea?? this morning, i just update my bios to the latest.


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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 9 2006, 08:34 PM)
Add me in list brows.gif

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welcome to the club ikan semilang masak asam..!!

cant wait to see ur oc results brows.gif

anyway, what stepping u got?? whistling.gif

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QUOTE(camedemac @ Aug 9 2006, 08:37 PM)
anyway, what stepping u got?? whistling.gif
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For who looking chipset micron at ram Corsair .
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*Corsair graphic* CORSAIR
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but somehow, square Micron will overclock better than a square but slightly rectangle Micron.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 9 2006, 09:11 PM)
but somehow, square Micron will overclock better than a square but slightly rectangle Micron.
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MID095062 <--- this number is specific ka?


EDITED:

MICRON IC on Corsair should have :

1. Clear white dot (actually it's cream/brown colour)

2. MIxxxxxxx

3. 64M8CEC

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 9 2006, 09:23 PM)
MID095062  <--- this number is specific ka?
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Not sure but maybe this number specific...

MID095062

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Those who are using KINGSTON value ram with Hynix chips ... what are your chips type?
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 9 2006, 08:34 PM)
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why u all use the am2 ori heatsink
only me one no use ori heatsink??

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QUOTE(F@NT@sy_G@RRic @ Aug 9 2006, 10:12 PM)
this mobo buy from kenny ah
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Nope. Buy from ATE, Low Yat Plaza. tongue.gif
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Some new information:

the newly released Kingston Value RAM DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-16 @ 1.8V is using Micron D9GKX

The chips are not relabelled, Micron label can clearly be seen.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 9 2006, 11:12 PM)
Some new information:

the newly released Kingston Value RAM DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-16 @ 1.8V is using Micron D9GKX

The chips are not relabelled, Micron label can clearly be seen.
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not sure blush.gif
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 9 2006, 08:34 PM)
Add me in list brows.gif

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itu dia....semalam order, hari ini sudah sampai.
majukan OC untuk Malaysia.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 9 2006, 11:15 PM)
not sure blush.gif
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QUOTE(Hungry_Wolf @ Aug 9 2006, 11:17 PM)
itu dia....semalam order, hari ini sudah sampai.
majukan OC untuk Malaysia.
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Macam kenal je.... laugh.gif Still noob... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 9 2006, 11:20 PM)
Not sure? Like expensive... sweat.gif
Macam kenal je.... laugh.gif  Still noob... sweat.gif
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yesterday met u at ATE...
how is ur ram? performing good?
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QUOTE(Hungry_Wolf @ Aug 9 2006, 11:21 PM)
yesterday met u at ATE...
how is ur ram? performing good?
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Ah forgot already....hehehe..not buy yet...waiting somebody want to sell their 2GB Corsair...micron chipset...buy Conroe ar yesterday? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 9 2006, 11:26 PM)
Ah forgot already....hehehe..not buy yet...waiting somebody want to sell their 2GB Corsair...micron chipset...buy Conroe ar yesterday? laugh.gif
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ikan,
hows the retention module?? any luck??everywhere i look already got you asking for it hehehehhe...........let me know if u got jalan for it....im using si-97 btw...

now in planning stage to get a am2 also....after getting am2 for my bro....really feel my system is annoying already hahahahahha
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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Aug 10 2006, 01:01 AM)
ikan,
hows the retention module?? any luck??everywhere i look already got you asking for it hehehehhe...........let me know if u got jalan for it....im using si-97 btw...

now in planning stage to get a am2 also....after getting am2 for my bro....really feel my system is annoying already hahahahahha
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For bracket not sure where can get. Hope somebody will bring it or maybe can ask with Overclock Paradise. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Aug 10 2006, 01:01 AM)
ikan,
hows the retention module?? any luck??everywhere i look already got you asking for it hehehehhe...........let me know if u got jalan for it....im using si-97 btw...

now in planning stage to get a am2 also....after getting am2 for my bro....really feel my system is annoying already hahahahahha
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si-97 cannot use. si-97a can.
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Found another retention bracket AM2 thumbup.gif

user posted image

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http://www.evercool.com.tw/products/k8-am2_rm.htm#

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doesn't look like it will fit Thermalright heatsinks though.... it looks like just similar to AM2 RM
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what's the bracket for? i thought the mere consent is heatsink clip...
coz after market s939's cooler have screw in the middle..
if only can get suitable clip can easily fit s939 cooler into am2..
if someone sell the clip i really regret let go my cnps9500led.. it's quite and chill good..
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I think the best value/performance for AM2 is AC Freezer64 Pro... only around RM100-ish
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 10 2006, 12:31 PM)
what's the bracket for? i thought the mere consent is heatsink clip...
coz after market s939's cooler have screw in the middle..
if only can get suitable clip can easily fit s939 cooler into am2..
if someone sell the clip i really regret let go my cnps9500led.. it's quite and chill good..
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For temporary just Thermalright come with bracket suitable with previous Thermalright S939 cooler like XP-series. For bracket Evercool i'm not sure what type and brand heatsink can suitable since it doesn't state what brand can used. For Zalman, they're have come out with 9500LED AM2 with black heatsink and green led. cool.gif

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i thought it's nickle plated instead of black
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 10 2006, 12:46 PM)
For temporary just Thermalright come with bracket suitable with previous Thermalright S939 cooler like XP-series. For bracket Evercool i'm not sure what type and brand heatsink can suitable since it doesn't state what brand can used. For Zalman, they're have come out with 9500LED AM2 with black heatsink and green led. cool.gif

[img]
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hahaa.. the crap bracket worth rm30 leh for LGA775 dunno bout AM2 de doh.gif

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 10 2006, 12:46 PM)
For temporary just Thermalright come with bracket suitable with previous Thermalright S939 cooler like XP-series. For bracket Evercool i'm not sure what type and brand heatsink can suitable since it doesn't state what brand can used. For Zalman, they're have come out with 9500LED AM2 with black heatsink and green led. cool.gif
the problem is just bought 1-2 months and the am2 ver came out.. cry.gif
just let it go.. like new but cheap..

if can get this clip.. can use easily..
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http://www.hardwarelogic.com/news/62/ARTIC...2006-07-26.html

try to get cheapo cooler but good ler.. coz zalman very pricy..
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hi, im new here..
im going to get new set of cpu...
here is my gigs im going to get!
AMD 3800 x2 AM2
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1gb ram corair or kingston
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may i know how could this spec go??
anyone here using same spec as me?

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QUOTE(Jealousy @ Aug 10 2006, 02:55 PM)
hi, im new here..
im going to get new set of cpu...
here is my gigs im going to get!
AMD 3800 x2 AM2
ASUS M2N-E
1gb ram corair or kingston
XFX 7600GT
ACBEL 450 watt PSU

may i know how could this spec go??
anyone here using same spec as me?
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if u can stand with limited vdimm max v1.95 then should be ok for M2N-E..
but with the same price u can get DFI.. better u browse back what we've discussed..
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Some people don't really bother overclocking the RAM.... so M2N-E is probably a nice choice, considering it had better features compare to Biostar or MSI.

Like me... overclocking the RAM is my thing, and I love to feed RAM with extra juices.... that's when Biostar or DFI comes in handy (although the latter is slightly more extreme).
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 10 2006, 03:19 PM)
Some people don't really bother overclocking the RAM.... so M2N-E is probably a nice choice, considering it had better features compare to Biostar or MSI.

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same goes to me..i intended the mn2e at first..becos of its features..plus it has the heatpipe.. drool.gif but then, i wonder if i am going to stand its vdimm core..im not the extreme OCers..but who knows the time when i need it..thats y i choose biostar..(since DFI wasnt in the market yet at dat time)

soulfly..u are migrating to DFI now??saw u sigs there rolleyes.gif
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i would say M2N-3 is great.. don't put it aside just becoz 1 less option..
i hope vdimm matter can be solved in the near future bios updates.. coz SLI ver using same pcb which can go to 2.5v...

M2N-3 made for ocing.. so what ever the problem asus ppl must solve it..
eventough got cold/warm boot problem (i think other brand also like that) while oc.. but when in windows it's stable..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 10 2006, 06:15 PM)
i would say M2N-3 is great.. don't put it aside just becoz 1 less option..
i hope vdimm matter can be solved in the near future bios updates.. coz SLI ver using same pcb which can go to 2.5v...

M2N-3 made for ocing.. so what ever the problem asus ppl must solve it..
eventough got cold/warm boot problem (i think other brand also like that) while oc.. but when in windows it's stable..
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mayb can flash sli version bios since just a pcie slot rite?
dint compare this 2... is it just the extra 1 pcie slot?
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I wan to join this clan.

My new AM2 rig:

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Thank.

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ive talk to the guys in OP just today...
he said the bracket for am2 will arrive around next month..
price maybe around 25-30.....

typo..im using si-97A heheheh
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3800+ windsor | K9N Neo | Colorful 7300GT DDR3 | 512mb Kingston DDR2-667 | AMD stock cooler

overclock a bit 2.0 > 2.3Ghz...

but its not mine ... i'm still using barton sad.gif

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 10 2006, 05:15 PM)
i would say M2N-3 is great.. don't put it aside just becoz 1 less option..
i hope vdimm matter can be solved in the near future bios updates.. coz SLI ver using same pcb which can go to 2.5v...

Same PCB does not mean the components are the same (take into account all those resistor values) tongue.gif

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mayb can flash sli version bios since just a pcie slot rite?
dint compare this 2... is it just the extra 1 pcie slot?
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lol think about it also.. but afraid to try.. let someone else do first..
coz still ok for me... in default voltage also i can get to 700DDR..
now running at 215fsb.. will increase by time.. fast enough.. only think about gpu right now...

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Same PCB does not mean the components are the same (take into account all those resistor values)  tongue.gif
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Can Biostar Tforce550 support 7900GT / X1900XT? Im not sure, using such a powerful card on a budget mobo. Will it be ok?

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Regarding to my spec above...
can any senior or proz.. suggest which ram should i get?? if i going to get hyperx ram.. corsair,kingston or any oth?
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QUOTE(Merlin_of_light @ Aug 11 2006, 10:58 AM)
Can Biostar Tforce550 support 7900GT / X1900XT? Im not sure, using such a powerful card on a budget mobo. Will it be ok?
Why not? All PCI-e 16x has the same standard regardless any type of graphics card.

QUOTE(Jealousy @ Aug 11 2006, 12:19 PM)
AMD 3800 x2 AM2
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Regarding to my spec above...
can any senior or proz.. suggest which ram should i get?? if i going to get hyperx ram.. corsair,kingston or any oth?
Just bear in mind.... M2N-E probably wont work with performance RAM that is SPD-rated to run at 2.0v minimum.
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Yeah, M2N-E voltage for ram is limited. I wonder why, since it is a mid-rg mobo. Why not get the DFI nf4 Ultra-II M2 if you are afraid of RAM problem? It's cheaper than M2N-E isn't it?
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Yeah, M2N-E voltage for ram is limited. I wonder why, since it is a mid-rg mobo. Why not get the DFI nf4 Ultra-II M2 if you are afraid of RAM problem? It's cheaper than M2N-E isn't it?
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i saw M2N-E's price below rm400

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lol almost same like mine.. nice isn't it? can start oc then...

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New BIOS released for BIOSTAR TForce 550

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Download link : http://lejabeach.com/Biostar/6100-550/6100550bios.html
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 11 2006, 05:20 PM)
i saw M2N-E's price below rm400
lol almost same like mine.. nice isn't it? can start oc then...
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 11 2006, 07:25 PM)
New BIOS released for BIOSTAR TForce 550

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BIOS for TForce 550
Release Date 2006/08/07
Update Description:
1. 修正CPU温度示&误
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Download link : http://lejabeach.com/Biostar/6100-550/6100550bios.html
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just test it but it seems no different with earlier bios sweat.gif

QUOTE(koie @ Aug 11 2006, 07:56 PM)
almost same like u la...haha...actually i dont know much bout ocing... laugh.gif
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try to learn laugh.gif and join the club tongue.gif
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i'm using GIGABYTE GA-M55SLI-S4 board, wat kind of ram best fit to this board?

now using Mushkin DDR2-533.

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enjoy this~~!!

http://doubleclick.inc.md/inno3d/Inno3D%20...st%20Report.htm

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QUOTE(yu_8200 @ Aug 11 2006, 10:46 PM)
i'm using GIGABYTE GA-M55SLI-S4 board, wat kind of ram best fit to this board?

now using Mushkin DDR2-533.

thank...
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same mobo! biggrin.gif actually i'm not sure about this mobo maybe this mobo can support up to 333mhz only sweat.gif i got a KVR5300 667... but my cpu-z is showing that max is only 333mhz shocking.gif
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hi guys..jus try oc my x2 3800+..but cant make it 2.3ghz above.. sad.gif
i hv try run it at 2.3ghz with 1.45v vcore, 2.80v vdimm and 3-4-4-7 5:4 timing with HT freq 4x/3x but after 7hours prime..its stop..can help me?C&Q disabled

this my spec:

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erm btw my full load temp is 58'c..izzit ok for dual core? sweat.gif

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QUOTE(TerryZeroX @ Aug 12 2006, 02:20 PM)
same mobo!  biggrin.gif  actually i'm not sure about this mobo maybe this mobo can support up to 333mhz only  sweat.gif  i got a KVR5300 667... but my cpu-z is showing that max is only 333mhz  shocking.gif
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its DDR 667 (333x2)


QUOTE(mfcm @ Aug 12 2006, 02:29 PM)
hi guys..jus try oc my x2 3800+..but cant make it 2.3ghz above.. sad.gif
i hv try run it at 2.3ghz with 1.45v vcore, 2.80v vdimm and 3-4-4-7 5:4 timing with HT freq 4x/3x but after 7hours prime..its stop..can help me?this my spec:

amd64 x2 3800+ s939
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512x2 corsair xms c2pt tccd chip
x800xl flashed to x850xt pe
520w ocz modstream
xp120 with 12 cm fan
200gb sata hdd

erm btw my full load temp is 58'c..izzit ok for dual core? sweat.gif
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have u disable K8 Coon 'n' Quiet at bios ??
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QUOTE(camedemac @ Aug 12 2006, 02:32 PM)
its DDR 667 (333x2)
have u disable K8 Coon 'n' Quiet at bios ??
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yup hv disable it..hmm sad.gif izzit max core for mine?
or cz the ram not stable?

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GIGABYTE G-Power Cooler Pro with DFI INFINITY NF ULTRAII-M2 / NVIDIA nForce 4 Ultra

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how good is GIGABYTE G-Power Cooler Pro?

any temperature comparison with stock cooler?
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Hey guys does anyone uses easytune5? i find it very simple to overclock with that program laugh.gif no need to go in bios and do all those hardwork
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bios = more geng ... lol!
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 12 2006, 08:20 PM)
GIGABYTE G-Power Cooler Pro with DFI INFINITY NF ULTRAII-M2 / NVIDIA nForce 4 Ultra

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i think freezer 64 pro will more better blush.gif
but GIGABYTE G-Power Cooler Pro more beautiful laugh.gif

later i mod my NF4 Ultra to NForce 4 SLI tongue.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 12 2006, 11:59 PM)
bios = more geng ... lol!
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lol i'll juz do minor overclocking like fsb settings biggrin.gif it can be done wit easytune5... volt mode oso can
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haha i see... biggrin.gif well i gotta slowly learn then
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superb!!!..

im waiting ikan semilang and fantasy garric updates.
heheheh good job guys!.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 21 2006, 01:52 PM)
hmm.... I think it's just the same la, it's just that Sempron had lower multiplier and clockspeed, as well as smaller cache. Which Sempron were you talking about.... 2800+ or 3000+? Both are rated at 1600MHz if I'm not mistaken.

For AM2 processors, divider is DDR against clockspeed.

Check out this table for Athlon64 dividers, Sempron might applicable as well. Not sure where the original source came from, but thanks to knacky from XS forum for posting it up earlier.

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did the multiple is fixed ??

can i try to put 1:1 or something near to AM2 ??

coz if is 1:1 my ram will be 333MHZ right then i don need to OC my ram then i can use 333as my FSB

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QUOTE(F@NT@sy_G@RRic @ Aug 13 2006, 12:10 AM)
i think freezer 64 pro will more better blush.gif
but GIGABYTE G-Power Cooler Pro more beautiful laugh.gif

later i mod my NF4 Ultra to NForce 4 SLI tongue.gif  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Aug 13 2006, 12:55 PM)
sorry bout bring back this old page

did the multiple is fixed ??

can i try to put 1:1 or something near to AM2 ??

coz if is 1:1 my ram will be 333MHZ right then i don need to OC my ram then i can use 333as my FSB

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There is no such thing as FSB:DRAM concept in AM2. The RAM divider is against the clockspeed... not FSB. That is why you need to refer to the table above.

Multipliers are unlocked downwards except for the FX series.

QUOTE(D@rk @ Aug 13 2006, 01:11 PM)
XP90/120/90C with 128CFM delta will be more better.  laugh.gif
but you will need to find the AM2 RM Rev.B to use the XP-series.
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Damn. hope can test with my setup but currently no display from my system. Weird la... doh.gif

Anybody can help me?

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Mobo: DFI Infinity NF2-MII
Ram: Corsair 2GB DDR667
Gc: Leadtek Winfast 7800GT
Psu: Enermax FMA 535 watt

After i'm test it with psu Enermax FMA 535 watt, the system cannot boot but got power on mobo. After changing another psu same brand with 460 watt, the problem is fan on cpu runnning but no display. I'm already clear cmos but still same problem. icon_question.gif

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clear cmos for a longer time? check the pci-e 6pin power cable connection at ur 7800gt and make sure u set the cmos jumper back to its default position..
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cant boot at all arr??
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QUOTE(irenic @ Aug 13 2006, 01:40 PM)
clear cmos for a longer time? check the pci-e 6pin power cable connection at ur 7800gt and make sure u set the cmos jumper back to its default position..
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Have done like that but still got problem. Weird problem is when test with 465 watt psu can run but psu 535 watt can't boot.

QUOTE(gengstapo @ Aug 13 2006, 01:42 PM)
cant boot at all arr??
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XP90/120/90C with 128CFM delta will be more better.  laugh.gif
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Have done like that but still got problem. Weird problem is when test with 465 watt psu can run but psu 535 watt can't boot.
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wat u mean by "can run" here, bootable hoh??
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Aug 13 2006, 01:48 PM)
wat u mean by "can run" here, bootable hoh??
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Mean fan on cpu can run with psu 465 watt but 535 watt can't. sweat.gif

Now setup it back and test again...

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superb!!!..

im waiting ikan semilang and fantasy garric updates.
heheheh good job guys!.
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 13 2006, 01:57 PM)
Mean fan on cpu can run with psu 465 watt but 535 watt can't.  sweat.gif

Now setup it back and test again...

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try boot with 1 stick of ram first
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read the pinned thread
u shall able to OC ur rig
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 13 2006, 02:12 PM)
try boot with 1 stick of ram first
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Still cannot boot. Isn't possible i get dead proc? sweat.gif
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just bring u whole rig to the shop & ask them to try for u

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Aug 13 2006, 02:27 PM)
just bring u whole rig to the shop & ask them to try for u

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I bought it from ATE but that shop not open today. cry.gif My warranty 1-1 end on Tuesday but i have no chance to check it since tomorrow will going outstation. cry.gif
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I bought it from ATE but that shop not open today. cry.gif  My warranty 1-1 end on Tuesday but i have no chance to check it since tomorrow will going outstation. cry.gif
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poor u, but then its very hard to get DOA processor
try check all the cable wheter they have been connected correctly icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Aug 13 2006, 02:32 PM)
poor u, but then its very hard to get DOA processor
try check all the cable wheter they have been connected correctly  icon_rolleyes.gif
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The mobo have 24 pin ATX connector and 4 pin. All i have connected. I'm very unlucky.
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The mobo have 24 pin ATX connector and 4 pin. All i have connected. I'm very unlucky.
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no larr, i believe its more to technical problem here
how bout the ATX panel connecter, all been assemble nicely/ correctly to the AM2 mobo panel??
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problem almost same like me....playing doom3 then pc suddenly hang...try to restart and pc stuck at 1st boot screen...cant enter Cmos somemore the pc keep restart. Clear the CMOS oredi but problem still exist. i suspect is RAM problem coz i almost change each part of my pc include PSU and Graphic Card. Just haven switch to another stick of RAM coz only 1 stick DDR2 RAM with me now. Don tell me is processor or Mobo dead oredi coz all is new hardware. cry.gif
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if i remember correctly, corsair(some model) really have a problem wif DFi Mobo. lastime, my XMS oso kenot reboot wif DFi but working nicely wif Asus. mebi need BIOS update??
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Aug 13 2006, 02:53 PM)
if i remember correctly, corsair(some model) really have a problem wif DFi Mobo. lastime, my XMS oso kenot reboot wif DFi but working nicely wif Asus. mebi need BIOS update??
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then Corsair RAM got conflict with Biostar Mobo or not?
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then Corsair RAM got conflict with Biostar Mobo or not?
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Aug 13 2006, 02:53 PM)
if i remember correctly, corsair(some model) really have a problem wif DFi Mobo. lastime, my XMS oso kenot reboot wif DFi but working nicely wif Asus. mebi need BIOS update??
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If like that, i'm need other ram for update bios. cry.gif
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If like that, i'm need other ram for update bios.  cry.gif
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try borrow other than Corsair's RAms wheter it can boot ur rig anot icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Aug 13 2006, 03:43 PM)
try borrow other than Corsair's RAms wheter it can boot ur rig anot  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Now try calling-calling other fren to borrow ram from them. Maybe problem because using micron chipset. sweat.gif

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Now try calling-calling other fren to borrow ram from them. Maybe problem because using micron chipset. sweat.gif
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whats wrong wif micron chippy??
i dont face any prob wif em'. in fact, im running this 667 CVS(Micron chippy) at 800Mhz 24/7 de whistling.gif whistling.gif
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hello guys...as i know ASUS M2N-E using nvidia570 ultra chipset...but why CPU-Z 1.35 detech my chipset as nvidia550... ohmy.gif ...CPU-Z...

i hope somebody can post his CPU-Z screenshot link here... icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(DarkWonder @ Aug 13 2006, 02:55 PM)
then Corsair RAM got conflict with Biostar Mobo or not?
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Aug 13 2006, 03:54 PM)
whats wrong wif micron chippy??
i dont face any prob wif em'. in fact, im running this 667 CVS(Micron chippy) at 800Mhz 24/7 de  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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It face problem with my DFI... ur different source, using Intel E6300 with Gigabyte mobo whistling.gif whistling.gif

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QUOTE(DarkWonder @ Aug 13 2006, 02:55 PM)
then Corsair RAM got conflict with Biostar Mobo or not?
I don't have problem at all.

QUOTE(koie @ Aug 13 2006, 03:56 PM)
hello guys...as i know ASUS M2N-E using nvidia570 ultra chipset...but why CPU-Z 1.35 detech my chipset as nvidia550... ohmy.gif ...CPU-Z...

i hope somebody can post his CPU-Z screenshot link here... icon_question.gif
try update to the latest BIOS

CPU-Z reads your mobo detail wrongly maybe.


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After change with another ram using Hynix C4, still got problem. Maybe either mobo or cpu got defect. Just buy new and got bad luck. vmad.gif
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After change with another ram using Hynix C4, still got problem. Maybe either mobo or cpu got defect. Just buy new and got bad luck. vmad.gif
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ok then, wat the prob now??
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Aug 13 2006, 06:51 PM)
ok then, wat the prob now??
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Still no display..same like previous problem..
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Still no display..same like previous problem..
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walao wehh.. i think better bring ur MoBo & processor to the shop lehh so they can test it for u. since u might have limited hardware sources, its hard to determines wat is the exact prob, just my opinion blush.gif
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Aug 13 2006, 07:00 PM)
walao wehh.. i think better bring ur MoBo & processor to the shop lehh so they can test it for u. since u might have limited hardware sources, its hard to determines wat is the exact prob, just my opinion  blush.gif
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I'm thinking like that also. Hope they're still accept 1-1 since i'm buying last Wednesday. Tomorrow will going outstation for 3 days. I'm suspect my proc... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 13 2006, 07:02 PM)
I'm thinking like that also. Hope they're still accept 1-1 since i'm buying last Wednesday. Tomorrow will going outstation for 3 days. I'm suspect my proc... sweat.gif
any friends nearby u using AM2?
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 13 2006, 04:06 PM)
I don't have problem at all.

try update to the latest BIOS

CPU-Z reads your mobo detail wrongly maybe.
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oledi try update the BIOS but no update available...i think wanna compare with other M2N-E user...they have same result with me or not...anybody have check their mobo with CPU-Z?...
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QUOTE(koie @ Aug 13 2006, 03:56 PM)
hello guys...as i know ASUS M2N-E using nvidia570 ultra chipset...but why CPU-Z 1.35 detech my chipset as nvidia550... ohmy.gif ...CPU-Z...

i hope somebody can post his CPU-Z screenshot link here... icon_question.gif
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now i oledi update the bios but still the same...
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Brother ikan, u solve ur problem oredi? i hasnt solve mine...want to throw away my whole system oredi vmad.gif or change to other board blush.gif
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a friend of mine face the same prob wif gigabyte mobo...after lotsa trying..what he do is.. he switched on bios..ram speed 533 eventho it is 667..then the system can boot..hope this helps..
somebody care to explain? any sifus?
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QUOTE(koie @ Aug 14 2006, 12:19 AM)
now i oledi update the bios but still the same...
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me too happen shocking.gif

i also download latest bios and cpuz ady but same thing happen vmad.gif

i don believe Asus will cheat us , hw about other ppl there?
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somebody can help me?
got prob here..my rig smetmes reboot by itself lor...
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wah alot of problem for am2???

anyway,recently i build am2 rig for my brother..using msi k9n board.
it have a hang problem.At first i tot its the temp...but when i do some checking...it seems like the auto setup for ram is the problem.What i did is try to play with the ram setting.for me i set to latency 3 from 4...........it solve the prob tho....

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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Aug 14 2006, 03:27 PM)
wah alot of problem for am2???

anyway,recently i build am2 rig for my brother..using msi k9n board.
it have a hang problem.At first i tot its the temp...but when i do some checking...it seems like the auto setup for ram is the problem.What i did is try to play with the ram setting.for me i set to latency 3 from 4...........it solve the prob tho....
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well i'm using am2 3500+ and it doesn't seems to give me any prob at all laugh.gif its working perfectly and i like it thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 13 2006, 06:53 PM)
Still no display..same like previous problem..
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maybe ram conflict..
or try using chapalang psu.. i got that problem before when pair with CM 450w.. but chapalang psu 400w can easily bootup..

QUOTE(koie @ Aug 13 2006, 08:04 PM)
oledi try update the BIOS but no update available...i think wanna compare with other M2N-E user...they have same result with me or not...anybody have check their mobo with CPU-Z?...
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cpuz reporting error i suppose.. try check using everest..
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hi, can anyone giv me a full set of spec for am2 setup? (OC)
mainboard?
ram?
n oth....
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great AM2 combo = Athlon64 3000+ ... DFI Infinity nF Ultra II-M2 ... TeamXtreem DDRII-667

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Who sells DFI Ultra II-M2 board in KL? Any shop in LYP?


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Who sells DFI Ultra II-M2 board in KL? Any shop in LYP?
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i check my mobo disk it got come with a software " Ai Booster "

it allow me to change my Vdimm to 2.5V

but i see that Soulfy say that m2n-e only allow to 1.95V??


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QUOTE(tachlio @ Aug 14 2006, 11:22 PM)
i check my mobo disk it got come with a software " Ai Booster "

it allow me to change my Vdimm to 2.5V

but i see that Soulfy say that m2n-e only allow to 1.95V??
bios only 1.95v that's for sure

try use ai booster see whether got true 2.5v or not? coz ai booster might be having the same system as M2N-SLI or M2N32
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guys..what good heatsink for this socket?

just bought this am2 lor...
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 15 2006, 01:03 AM)
bios only 1.95v that's for sure

try use ai booster see whether got true 2.5v or not? coz ai booster might be having the same system as M2N-SLI or M2N32
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oh ya i go bios and see it really allow to 1.95 ~ blink.gif

later will try use ai booster
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i saw alot of members have M2N-E.. and again pair with budget dually X2 3800+.. please share ur oc experiences..

timing to play with... standard 667 KVR (5-5-5-12) 1T/2T

FSB : 200
HTT Mul : 5
vCpu : 1.33
vDimm : 1.8v
DDR Base : 667 4-4-4-11 1T

FSB : 210
HTT Mul : 5
vCpu : 1.33
vDimm : 1.8v
DDR Base : 667 (700) 4-4-4-12 1T

FSB : 220
HTT Mul : 5
vCpu : 1.33
vDimm : 1.9v
DDR Base : 667 (733) 4-4-4-12 1T

FSB : 240
HTT Mul : 4
vCpu : >1.40~
vDimm : 1.8v
DDR Base : 533 (600) 4-4-4-12 1T

FSB : 245
HTT Mul : 4
vCpu : >1.50~
vDimm : 1.8v
DDR Base : 533 (612) 4-4-4-12 1T


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FSB : 250
HTT Mul : 5
vCpu : 1.35 ( but CPUz show 1.184v only )
vDimm : 1.9v
DDR Base : 4-4-4-12 1T ( it show 250Hhz at CPUz , did it right? )

i js use super pi 1m and 3dmark05 to test stablity coz no time nw will try more high later

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QUOTE(tachlio @ Aug 15 2006, 12:36 PM)
FSB : 250
HTT Mul : 5
vCpu : 1.35 ( but CPUz show 1.184v only )
vDimm : 1.9v
DDR Base : 4-4-4-12 1T ( it show 250Hhz at CPUz , did it right? )

i js use super pi 1m and 3dmark05 to test stablity coz no time nw will try more high later
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ur using 0103 bios? stable or not? try prime la..
i found 0203 bios cannot go fsb >250
http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socketAM2/M2N-E/0302.zip
above is beta.. i not try yet but got someone try can go >350 fsb..

i rely on asus probe for vCpu..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 15 2006, 03:00 PM)
ur using 0103 bios? stable or not? try prime la..
i found 0203 bios cannot go fsb >250
http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socketAM2/M2N-E/0302.zip
above is beta.. i not try yet but got someone try can go >350 fsb..

i rely on asus probe for vCpu..
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i am using 0203 bios

yap it fail to boot up after over 250 fsb

even over 1 also cant doh.gif

anyway to solve this?

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i am using Patriok DDR2 667 by using stock timing it is 5-5-5-15 2t
i now put at 4-4-4-12 1T

what value ram do u think is more worth to get , i mean can compatible with my mobo coz seen that asus board is picky ram

corsair value or kingston value ram?

any review did patriok did on this m2n-e hw to test the higher does this ram can do and the stablity

coz i still can change to other ram by this week
please help pls~

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ur using patriot or what? i thought patriot is ok... what chips it's using?
u try with the that beta bios la..
i'm using kvr.. if only i can get v2.2 maybe can get 800DDR.. but cannot try coz mobo limit it..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 15 2006, 05:14 PM)
ur using patriot or what? i thought patriot is ok... what chips it's using?
u try with the that beta bios la..
i'm using kvr.. if only i can get v2.2 maybe can get 800DDR.. but cannot try coz mobo limit it..
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ya i am using patriok ram , and it got ram stick there if i open it i will viod my waranty so i don know what chip inside

now try using 10 mutiple unable pass 210 fsb also ~ don know y~


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QUOTE(tachlio @ Aug 15 2006, 03:40 PM)
vmad.gif 

i am using 0203 bios

yap it fail to boot up after over 250 fsb

even over 1 also cant  doh.gif

anyway to solve this?
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reduce HTT multi to 4x loh....

4x250 = 1000mhz (maximum)
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 15 2006, 05:51 PM)
reduce HTT multi to 4x loh....

4x250 = 1000mhz (maximum)
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i put 3 ady vmad.gif

hope someone can help us~

Hmm - it seems that we'are not the only ones having problems with RAM.
There are only 6 posts but 300+ views.
Also it seems that there no asus representative reads this message board.


What all of us can do, is to mail tsd@asus.com with description of problem and request updated bios/ or another solution. If you are lazy just as I am you can use template I prepared (but I recommend that you change it somewhat)
Remember - if enough of us mails asus it may speed things up.
Asus needs to know that this is serious problem , affecting many of us.
Worst case scenario I expect - we will get straight answer if this problem can be fixed or not.

So don't hesitate and fire up your mail client wink.gif

Thanks, Christopher

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Hello.

I recently bought ASUS M2N-E motherboard.
Your product is advertised as "Exceptionally Overclocking".
However this board suffers from serious bug: DIMM voltage can be set only at 1,95V max.
This not only limits overclocking potential, but also makes impossible to use most 667 and 800 MHz DDR2 memory sticks.
Most of these memory modules require 2,1-2,4V dimm voltage.
Also to my knowledge, many users report RAM stability problems even with major brand memory sticks.
I am really disappointed.

What I would like to now, is:
-is ASUS working on mentioned problems?
-can these bugs be fixed with BIOS updates? Or can they be fixed only by releasing new motherboard revisions?
-if higher DIMM voltage (>1,95V) can be only achieved by releasing updated motherboard PCB design, will my product be replaced free of charge?

I'm looking forward to your answer.

With Regards,

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guys...do we make a mistake by buying this am2 socket n not conroe?

im in dilemma..

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guys...do we make a mistake by buying this am2 socket n not conroe?

im in dilemma..
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Its not like C2D price diff is RM50 right? Ppl also need to consider budget and availability. I buy AM2 and also able to afford a better GC to play games. No point buying a C2D just to get good superPI.
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Aug 16 2006, 07:40 AM)
Its not like C2D price diff is RM50 right? Ppl also need to consider budget and availability. I buy AM2 and also able to afford a better GC to play games. No point buying a C2D just to get good superPI.
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true laugh.gif unless you wanna do encoding or graphic work maybe getting am2 is a wrong choice smile.gif
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if you're from S939 probably it's a 'poor choice'

from S754/S-462... maybe not
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Aug 15 2006, 06:30 PM)
i put 3 ady  vmad.gif
tell us ur setting la.. or maybe u can try the beta bios..
i want to try but no free time right now..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 16 2006, 10:47 AM)
tell us ur setting la.. or maybe u can try the beta bios..
i want to try but no free time right now..
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FSB : 250
HTT Mul : 3
vCpu : 1.35 ( but CPUz show 1.184v only )
vDimm : 1.9v
DDR Base : 4-4-4-12 1T (by auto is 5-5-5-15 2T) shocking.gif
Bios : update to 320Beta
and 203 also been try same resulf happen

does i need to change to other ram better??

corsair or kingston? or stick with patriot ?

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lol did u refer the setting i gave earlier.. maybe vcpu not supply right...
and again what's base ram u put? 533?

250*10 = 2500ghz (cpu speed)

DDR base 533: 2500/8 = 312.5 ~ 625DDR

DDR base 667: 2500/6 = 416.6 ~ 833DDR (sure ur ram not capable do this with v1.9v)

divider are vary u need to refer the chart that supply by soulfly..
AM2 oc different than s939 n s754..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 16 2006, 12:19 PM)
lol did u refer the setting i gave earlier.. maybe vcpu not supply right...
and again what's base ram u put? 533?

250*10 = 2500ghz (cpu speed)

DDR base 533: 2500/8 = 312.5 ~ 625DDR

DDR base 667: 2500/6 = 416.6 ~ 833DDR (sure ur ram not capable do this with v1.9v)

divider are vary u need to refer the chart that supply by soulfly..
AM2 oc different than s939 n s754..
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the vcore i put at auto setting and i got also try put at 1.365v

i put my to DDR2 667 << maybe this is the problem

so any DDR2 667 ram able don 800DDR? or if the mobo can supply enuf Vdimm then mostly value ram still able do it??

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i think we need >2.2v to get 800DDR..
u try put 533 base drr first... and vdimm auto..
the cpu u can increase until 1.5.. i've tried before but the temp quite high.. need better cooler to attempt more..

other thing is.. normally X2 3800+ can max 2.6.. so 250fsb should near the ceiling.. and it's par to 5000+.. just try it slowly..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 16 2006, 05:15 PM)
i think we need >2.2v to get 800DDR..
u try put 533 base drr first... and vdimm auto..
the cpu u can increase until 1.5.. i've tried before but the temp quite high.. need better cooler to attempt more..

other thing is.. normally X2 3800+ can max 2.6.. so 250fsb should near the ceiling.. and it's par to 5000+.. just try it slowly..
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i think i wil try using using DDR533 and 250FSB with lower multiple try can pass 250FSb onot 1st

i also using stock cooling , must try it slow and slow ~ lately quite buzy , later will tell u result
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what type of heatsink that am2 use?...is it same with opteron?...enybody have change the heatsink?...please recommend me...wanna change the heatsink soon...
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what type of heatsink that am2 use?...is it same with opteron?...enybody have change the heatsink?...please recommend me...wanna change the heatsink soon...
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Zalman 9500 AM2 edition
ArticCooling Freezer64 Pro <--- best bang for the buck
Thermaltake Mini Typhoon
Scythe Mine

these heatsinks can be fit without any mod

any other heatsink that uses clip like OEM AMD heatsink also compatible.
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i think i wil try using using DDR533 and 250FSB with lower multiple try can pass 250FSb onot 1st 

i also using stock cooling , must try it slow and slow ~ lately quite buzy , later will tell u result
Try
FSB = 250
multi = 10x
HT multi = 3x
Vdimm = default
DDR divider = DDR533 (or whatever the BIOS call it)
Timing = default

with this setting, your ram shouldn't be the one holding back. if not stable you might want to increase the cpu voltage.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 16 2006, 07:59 PM)
Zalman 9500 AM2 edition
ArticCooling Freezer64 Pro <--- best bang for the buck
Thermaltake Mini Typhoon
Scythe Mine

these heatsinks can be fit without any mod

any other heatsink that uses clip like OEM AMD heatsink also compatible.
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did u know which shop selling mini typhoon?
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Aug 16 2006, 05:23 PM)
i think i wil try using using DDR533 and 250FSB with lower multiple try can pass 250FSb onot 1st 

i also using stock cooling , must try it slow and slow ~ lately quite buzy , later will tell u result
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So far I also cannot pass 250FSB. Last stable result was:
FSB: 246
Mult: 11x
HTT: 4X
DDR: 533 (CPU/9)
Vcore : 1.425
Vmem: Stock
but load was 67C so now on stock speeds
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QUOTE(koie @ Aug 16 2006, 08:25 PM)
did u know which shop selling mini typhoon?
not sure.... but i think some forumers sell them at bulk section

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Update: Today just sent back my item to shop, proc and motherboard. Then they're found my proc dead. Now they're change 1-1 a new proc but still not test yet. Need format my harddisk first.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 16 2006, 09:03 PM)
not sure.... but i think some forumers sell them at bulk section
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thanks bro...oledi order TT mini typhoon with niclasteoh...maybe will get it next month... rclxms.gif

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ikan,
nasib can change the cpu..im waiting patiently for your setup.

anyway for Asus m2ne people..i got a friend working in Asus.I will ask him to look in this issue regarding vdimm.

errr can any one give me a link that say ddr2800 need 2.2-2.4v to run???

dunno where to find smile.gif
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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Aug 17 2006, 07:15 AM)
ikan,
nasib can change the cpu..im waiting patiently for your setup.

anyway for Asus m2ne people..i got a friend working in Asus.I will ask him to look in this issue regarding vdimm.

errr can any one give me a link that say ddr2800 need 2.2-2.4v to run???

dunno where to find smile.gif
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thk a lot ...

hope it solve quickly~ thumbup.gif

Some Team RAM need ablut 2.0-2.2V to ram at DDR2 800

Team DDR2 800 1.95-2.20V

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you can run ddr800 at lower voltage depends on the chips and how tight the timing is.

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 17 2006, 09:13 AM)
you can run ddr800 at lower voltage depends on the chips and how tight the timing is.
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if i get at team DDR2 800 with timing 4-4-4-12

but i because my mobo cant supply the voltage it need and i need the run at loose timing

what point i get this ram ~ doh.gif

hope Asus can take note of their bios problem ~
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post Aug 17 2006, 11:57 AM

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my Team DDR667 boot at 1.95Vdimm (the lowest Vdimm on my mobo) ....

I believe the RAM will boot at DDR800 with just 1.8V .... but when u get to the BIOS... just set the timing to 2T for extra stability.

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post Aug 17 2006, 06:00 PM

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ok i will get my friend this info.Coz i did voice my concern to him over the low vdimmin m2n-e when i ask him for me to buy the board..like kutuk asus abit heheheh...
i cant promise anything...but will try to help..

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guys i wanna ask something tongue.gif i juz figured out a lil bit about overclocking cpu... and my bios has all the overclocking option, so if i wanna do slight overclocking all i do is to change the cpu clock frequency? my multiplier is x11 so once i change the fsb i don't need to do anything to my ram rite?
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any change with the cpu clockspeed will result change in memory clockspeed as well.

please refer to the cpu/ddr2 divider table at the first page
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ok tailou... i read the divider thingy and i have no idea at all what izzit laugh.gif
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post Aug 17 2006, 10:45 PM

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Please take note, Evercool VC-RE cannot fit with DFI Infinity UltraII-M2. wink.gif
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 17 2006, 10:45 PM)
Please take note, Evercool VC-RE cannot fit with DFI Infinity UltraII-M2. wink.gif
how's that thing looks like? couldn't find on the website
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 17 2006, 11:10 PM)
how's that thing looks like? couldn't find on the website
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how about Vantec Iceberq? Do you think it would work?
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post Aug 18 2006, 04:31 AM

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hi guys,

for asus m2n-e user..sadly i got some bad news...ive talk to my friend..complaining about the low vdimm that the board provide.
he say he did ask from the board designer to give a extreme version bios..but sadly it was decline....now only time will tell whether asus will release the bios or not...theres alot info ive discuss but i cant publish it here...its about the stablity and mass market.DDR2 667 value ram will run at 1.8v sooo 1.95 is quite enuff also...

so sorry cant help much.... cry.gif
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I already mentioned earlier... eventhough the board layout is similar to M2N32 ...that doesn't mean that you can get max Vdimm as simple as BIOS mod. Everything else need to take into account like the power regulator, mosfet and such. The last resort is to Vdimm mod. There's a guide at XS forum, you guys might wanna dig it.

As for TForce550 user, vdimm pencil mod is as easy as shading the R92 resistor near the 2.2V jumper. Be aware that you WILL need a digital multimeter to measure the Vdimm reading before booting the system to avoid risking your precious RAM. Oh by the way.... use an HB pencil.

I did mine and I get 2.41V max ....lol.
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i get this board because it design and Asus, now i think this will be my last asus board not ever get asus anymore~

BTW any good am2 board to recoment??

how about Abit KN9-Ultra??

coz me here hard to find any DFI board and Biostar board also don know whre can i get it~

DFI AM2 Board

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How much is Abit KN9 Ultra?
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 18 2006, 05:07 PM)
How much is Abit KN9 Ultra?
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my frd js get him Abit KN9 non ultra but model i not sure with about 400

i think ultra will about 450 at penang , KL may cheaper even more


and i check him bios it Vdimm can set up to 2.3v ( if i not see wrong is 2.5V) like DFI did

so i wan ask that anything i wan to take note if i get new board , this time don wan get that s*ck board le
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Go xtremesystems forum, check out AMD section. I think there's one thread about KN9 Ultra I guess.... have a read see whether got issues or not.
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 17 2006, 10:45 PM)
Please take note, Evercool VC-RE cannot fit with DFI Infinity UltraII-M2. wink.gif
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Can fit one la bro.... just need to slightly "bend" one of the cap. Or you can trim the metal braket on the VC-RE.
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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Aug 18 2006, 08:08 PM)
Can fit one la bro.... just need to slightly "bend" one of the cap. Or you can trim the metal braket on the VC-RE.
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Stock chipsink: LOAD 60ºC
VC-RE: LOAD 46ºC
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pcmoddingmy u use DFI board??

but there write u are using Biostar board??

any coment about the board u are using now?
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Aug 18 2006, 08:50 PM)
pcmoddingmy u use DFI board??

but there write u are using Biostar board??

any coment about the board u are using now?
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Yup.. currently using the DFI board. Recently I've posted a review on the UltraII-M2. You can read the review to learn more about the board. I managed to hit 440HTT easily on the stock Vchip and chipset cooler. thumbup.gif

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This will most expensive mobo AM2... laugh.gif

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LANPARTY UT NF590 SLI-M2R/G

http://us.dfi.com.tw/Press/press_header_co...428.jsp&SITE=US

Spec:

http://us.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_product_sp...TYPE=LP&SITE=US
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Aug 19 2006, 12:34 AM)
This will most expensive mobo AM2... laugh.gif

LANPARTY UT NF590 SLI-M2R/G
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Yup... most expensive indeed...
Digital PWM, copper heatsink, 90º SATA, 3.0VDIMM... gosh!
I'm guessing this baby will cost over RM1K at release.

Looks like I'll be molesting it early next month! biggrin.gif

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