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 AMDŽ Socket-AM2 Overclocking thread, discuss our setup/overclocking issues

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post Jul 24 2006, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 24 2006, 03:38 PM)
doh.gif

didn't know M2N-E only has 1.95Vdimm max .... you should've gotten Tforce 550 instead, at least Vdimm is max at 2.2V tongue.gif

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I also just got an AMD 3500+ on Asus M2N-E, playing around with O/C a bit, but never do b4, I scared I will accidentally fry my new toy lah... slowly reading the pinned threads now...
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post Jul 24 2006, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 24 2006, 09:04 AM)
lol can't believe i'm on dual core..
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lol can't believe i went back to single core, what to do, now is project GT (as in 7600GT). I need the FPS to kill Mexican rebels more quickly (GR:AW).

QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 24 2006, 04:06 PM)
share your AM2 setup lah.... i'm gonna add to the list
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Now pending GC, HDD bracket / IDE Cable (now DVDROM and HDD cannot put near each other due to mobo blocking the lower 5.25 drive bays.

Once done will post. Also will seek the advice of bros here on AM2, first time using AMD...

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post Jul 31 2006, 12:04 PM

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Hi guys need some feedback.

I using AM2 3500+ w/ Asus M2N-E mobo. New to O/C, so not sure whether I am doing it right.

My BIOS Setting:
FSB: 230
Multiplier: 11x
HTT: 4x
PCIE: 100 MHz
DRAM: 533 MHz
Cooling: Stock
Voltages: Default

Then in nvidia Monitor I see the result:
CPU: 2530MHz
HTT: 920MHz
RAM: 612MHz

I run SP2004 for 8 hours , no errors.
Temps: CPU Idle 39C Load: 54C
Mobo Idle 36C Load 44C

Is this correct way to O/C?






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post Jul 31 2006, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 31 2006, 12:17 PM)
should be correct..
what ram timing? 4-4-4-11?
try 5-5-5-12 look can go further or not.. or just give more voltage..
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I think timing was 4-4-4-12 then got one 17, and 2T setting (gotta check when I get home)

I wanted to change that but not sure how. Also I dunno current memory voltage, so is risky to up the setting... need to read up on RAM O/C.

CPU is quite hot though, but I see so few AM2 coolers around...

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post Jul 31 2006, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 31 2006, 01:13 PM)
at 2.6ghz @ 1.4v, my cpu is at around 50'C-51'C

maybe your ambient temperature is slightly higher, thus contributing to slightly hotter cpu
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My ambient / mobo is around 36C, but ya its under the table and I only got a 80mm fan as exhaust so its not as good, I wanted 120mm exhaust but cannot find a nice case with that feature (for my budget).



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otherwise put ram as 400 and increase the fsb/vcore more..
ram setting can be changed at cpu setting
not jumper free menu..
Cool man. I think that will allow me to increase FSB by quite a bit more, and also the Vcore. Will try when I get home. Also considering aftermarket HSF. Laterlah, my credit card bursted oredi after buying 2 rigs...



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post Aug 2 2006, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 1 2006, 10:30 AM)
CM centurion 5 got 120mm fan at behind.. price RM150~190..
me using it.. side panel.. if ur psu cable long enough can hide at behind so not so crowded.. screwless somemore..
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Argh! Now you make me wanna go out and get one ... I so busy buying last week I check my Credit Card I almost fainted hehe. Now looking for a nice AM2 HSF and Centurion 5 maybe sweat.gif
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post Aug 2 2006, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(syazone @ Aug 2 2006, 05:09 PM)
between ASUS M2N-E & BIOSTAR TForce 550 ,which one is better?
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I also thinking about it when I bought my AMD rig 2 weeks ago. M2N-E is RM60 more and its different chipset also, 570U, hard to compare.

Key points for me in selecting M2N-E:
1) Support DDR533 (biostar website say tf550 support 667/800) and I have spare 1GB
2) Supposedly better O/C since 570 chipset
3) Cool looking heatpipe (i'm a sucker for good looks)


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post Aug 3 2006, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 3 2006, 11:17 AM)
TForce 550 supports 400/533/667/800 (the BIOS said so).

Memory speed support depends on processor, not motherboard... in case of K8 of course.
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Then their website should indicate it , it was one of the key factor I din't choose it also, RM60 diff I could use elsewhre ya doh.gif but oklah, so far i use asus boards no complains

But for HSF, I got spare TT golden orb 2, the backplate provided is 2 holes to screw on mobo, but I see my mobo is 4 holes for backplate. The TT Golden Orb on the box says support K8 and Socket 940. Dude at the shop told me AM2 can use one, socket 940 mah... Any comments?
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post Aug 3 2006, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 3 2006, 04:34 PM)
dude.. that's why i sold my zalman cnps9500LED..though very good cooler..
s940 mean for those server proc.. not AM2..
the only problem is the clip.. if only can get the clip fit.. it's consider done..

i not see many AM2 cooler.. for zalman got other version.. cnps9500LED AM2 which is green led.. can be used for all platform..

so for tips.. better search that's stated 'AM2'
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The bulk order dude also say AM2 no stock but 9500LED can use, I dont believe also. ANyway will have to hunt around in LYP and see if they have nice AM2 HSF.
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post Aug 3 2006, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(D@rk @ Aug 3 2006, 05:44 PM)
Shop Dude, always never keep their knowledge up to date. Find out ourself next time. By looking, we can actually tell Golden Orb is not compatible with Am2.

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Nolah, the Golden Orb is my spare HSF when I was setting up a couple of LGA775 PCs... din't buy it specially for my AM2 rig...
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post Aug 4 2006, 10:44 AM

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Guys,

I O/C my 3500+/M2N-E to:
FSB 230 / Mult 11x / HTT 4x / DRAM 533 4-4-4-12 / PEG disabled / stock volts

Run SP2004 8hrs ok, superPI ok.

But then I reboot, it stuck at the bios screen (Asus Logo).

Any comments?
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post Aug 4 2006, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 4 2006, 11:57 AM)
normally we call them 'warm boot' and 'cold boot'..
http://www.smartcomputing.com/editorial/di...yclopedia&guid=

actually we need to study about it further..
http://www.comptechdoc.org/hardware/pc/pcboot.html

for the simple way.. during POST.. cpu or ram not receive correct voltage to initiate them to on.. this could be bios problem psu or the mobo itself...
i'm also waiting the latest bios to resolve this issue...
me also using M2N-E.. it's rock stable when able to log windows..
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Hmm I better try a bios update first and see how, hope its fixed. Thanks for the link.
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post Aug 5 2006, 06:44 AM

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AMD 3500+ AM2 / Asus M2N-E / KVR533 1GB @ 2.7GHz, 1 .4250V (+50mV)
Idle CPU 41C, Mobo 44C // Load CPU 67C, Mobo 47C

Looks stable so far but I gotta get more cooling power at this speed.

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post Aug 5 2006, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 5 2006, 11:05 AM)
bro... seriously your PSU voltage rail looks dangerous

+12v @ 11.3v is.... sweat.gif
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Bro, now I tension oredi, I took this screenshot early this morning b4 I came to work... what should my 12V be like? Please advise. Is this the one connect to the mobo? I got a 7600GT and also up my vcore from 1.42 to 1.425...

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post Aug 5 2006, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(sukun @ Aug 5 2006, 12:10 PM)
Decided to build a new AMD system. My old rig=total trash!

*AMD X2 4400+ (RM850-Cycom) <----Is this price-tag true? Other shop sell for 1K+
*Any bang-for-bucks MSI/GB/ASUS 570U chipset motherboard
*1GB 667Mhz
*MSI NX7600GT-VT2D256E-HD (RM685-TMatch) <----Is this real too? VIVO card btw.
Also plan to do a SLI system. What's your fellow ppl's view? I'm not that hardcore gamer at all facing the screen 24/7. But I want to try out Advance Warfighter.
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From the current trend ppl are getting :
CPU: AMD X2 3800+ // Mobo: Biostar TF550 // RAM : 1GB 667 // GC: Winfast or XFX 7600GT
I suppose such spec is value+ performance. Advance Warfighter will run at max setting if your GC's ram is 512 and above. But my single 7600GT runs the game smoothly enough.

QUOTE(soulfly)
I suggest you get Enermax since you overclock ... the FMA series Enermax offers good value/performance compare to other brand within the same level. The 7600GT might consume not as much power as high end cards, but who knows the current it draws from the PSU.
I got CM Extreme Power 380W, I though should cope with this ... cry.gif maybe I run the CPU at stock to see whats the result. Should the voltage be somewhere like 10+ instead of 11.3V? Thanks..




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post Aug 5 2006, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(camedemac @ Aug 5 2006, 12:35 PM)
planning to get 7300GT, coz it is low budget but performance also not bad wink.gif
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Thats the hot GC now but depends on what game, like I play Oblivion/GRAW/FEAR, turns out these games need higher power GC so I end up wif 7600GT.

QUOTE(sukun)
Actually does processor cache gives a big impact or not? Like comparing between Pentium D 930 & AM2 X2 4400+
Will it show a big gap of performance difference?
You can compare here:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html
and see that the 4400+ is better but for that price you should be comparing wif the 950 ... or C2D ...
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post Aug 5 2006, 04:44 PM

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I saw today pricelist from hardwarezone, it seems Viewnet have Mushkin ram is RM420 for DDR800. Is it worth getting that one? Two sticks of 512 @RM230 each?

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post Aug 5 2006, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 5 2006, 04:45 PM)
If it's Mushkin's value, I think it's Aeneon... not too sure, but high probability
which Mushkin series?
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No idea, but the item is listed under valueram section. Now googling to see what it could be
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post Aug 8 2006, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(DarkWonder @ Aug 8 2006, 02:30 PM)
One more noob question, if i didnt overclock the proc, with mid end GC and 1GB DDR2 667Mhz RAM, most of the game in this market i can play or not?

7300GT 128MB DDR3
I bought the 7600GT cos my X1300Pro was so weak. I suppose you can play all the games, just how high res and detial you want only... my monitor is 19" so I got a better card to play higher resolution...
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QUOTE(Merlin_of_light @ Aug 8 2006, 09:08 PM)
If it isn't, should I get Artic Silver or Artic Ceramique? I know Silver is the best but where I stay violent lightning storms occur frequently and rapidly. Silver is a good electric conduit. I have concerns about the material increasing the likelyhood of my CPU being fried by a lighting strike right outside my house due to static electricity in the atmosphere. Sometimes the first lighting strikes fall in my neigbourhood, so there's little warning to shut down my PC.

I know some people who used Ceramique for this very reason. Myth, or fact?
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Bro, if lightning hits your PC I don't think you need to worry about whether you use AS or not... nor should you worry about AS which is sandwiched in between your cpu and HSF will attract lightning or not...

Anyway if you don't OC no need better thermal paste lah, stock temps are usually o.k. I only use it because I itchy fingers, bought a few tubes to play around ...

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