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 AMDŽ Socket-AM2 Overclocking thread, discuss our setup/overclocking issues

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post Jul 20 2006, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(syarat @ Jul 20 2006, 04:16 PM)
to setup a new rig of 939..cost almost the same with am2..so..i choose am2, since 939 will soon phased out.. sad.gif
will be joining this am2 clan soon..
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Yeah, yeah, i'm a member tooo.... used a s939 for 2 months then change to AM2 coz got a serious buyer for my cpu n mobo...

My spec :

AMD AM2 3000+ | MSI K9 Neo NF550 Mobo | Corsair DDR2 667 | Stock AMD Cooler...

I only play2 o/c to 2.4ghz only then downclock it back... Dont really like o/c ing that much...
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post Jul 20 2006, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(syarat @ Jul 20 2006, 04:25 PM)
how much u spent for those setup?
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U mean my whole rig or what? CPU+RAM+Mobo = RM1k

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post Jul 20 2006, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(syarat @ Jul 20 2006, 04:32 PM)
no..i mean only the proc+ram+mobo..if affordable..might get these..cos others always varies..
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Urmm when i upgrade it was something like 1k = RAM 345, CPU 340, Mobo 320... Nowadays it's much cheaper....
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post Jul 20 2006, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(syarat @ Jul 20 2006, 04:38 PM)
i noticed dat mobo is selling at 340 sumwhere..where did u get at 320?
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RM340? U sure? Coz i seen PCZone pricelist now it's something like RM295.... If u have the funds try getting the MSI platnium wif N570 chipset RM355, better features i think..

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post Jul 20 2006, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(woundxp @ Jul 20 2006, 04:46 PM)
http://www.overclockercafe.com/Articles/DDR_vs_DDR2/pg_3.htm

Not really much difference ddr1 vs ddr2 for now.

Is DDR1 compatible on DDR2 mobo?
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Nope not compatible DDR1 wont work on DDR2 slot... vice versa...

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post Jul 20 2006, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(syarat @ Jul 20 2006, 04:45 PM)
nope..pczone is 350..just checked..nevermind..i tot of dealing wif moderno instead..
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I check the pricelist in here...

http://www.hardwarezone.com.my/priceguide/download.php
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post Jul 20 2006, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 20 2006, 05:28 PM)
My AM2 rig:
AMD AM2 3000+ | MSI K9 Neo NF550 Mobo | Kingston DDR2 667

Soulfly: Can add me to the clan list? smile.gif
btw guys, the mobo is only RM295 at PCZONE. Price dropped already. I just bought it 2 days ago.

Go buy one before stock runs out!!!!
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Wahahahahaah.... New saudara... Muahahaha.... Using same cpu n m/b as me... muahahaha... welkam, welcome matrix... biggrin.gif
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post Jul 20 2006, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 20 2006, 05:39 PM)
Last nite install my setup, as usual, it's the CPU that's always give me headache and since i've never have experience with this HSF lock before.

Warning: The CPU installation instruction in the MSI K9 Neo manual is WRONG!!

Luckily, i refer to the AMD instruction manual. The MSI manual told me to hook up the side without that big plastic turning thing first then only hook up the side with that thing. It doesn't works at all! One look at the AMD guide can tell that u should hook up the side with the big plastic lock, then only hook the other side (there's a notch here, just just ur flat screwdriver to force it in), lastly turn the lock.

(1) Hook side with plastic lock.
(2) Hook side with metal notch. Use screwdriver to push it down 90 degree.
(3) HSF is secure lightly. Turn the plastic lock as per diagram.
(4) HSF is fully lock.

Hope this helps newbie!!

btw, how to o/c this CPU ar? Any tips? There's no multiplier like my old XP1800 wor...only FSB. please share ur success stories here!
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I o/c by playing with the cpus fsb.... but b4 that i hav to set the HT at 200 and set the ram speed at 266 to make it more stable.. If i set the HT higher it usually wont boot properly..
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post Jul 21 2006, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(ToGo @ Jul 21 2006, 08:17 AM)
LOL  wat use to get a future technology which is not really functioninig  well and stable yet?
Remeber the story of RD ram on pentium 4 ?
Remember last 3 years AMD64 in order to use windows64bit??? Where is 64bit OS? Till now every1 still gaming, doing daily operation on 32bit windows.
DDR800 ????? Would you buy 2gb ddr800 now?? wat if the moment the launch am3, a better cheap set already come out ? Make your am2 only capable to run 70% performance of am3? even VIA low end chipset run better than ur am2? Then those initially using 939, waste a simple rm200 already can get a board with much better technology than am2.
What if suddenly AMD got better technology research out, change the soket to AMD superb .......  then AM2 would be facing the same life path as S754.
Yet, amd got say AM2 will support  AM3, AM4. Don't care they say until Am10, they suddenly tell u soket need to change due to the advancement of technology, what can u do? What use a future motherboard with a noob procesor runing on it. Don't make sence. I rather get a good 939 processor.

No flaming,  just my 2 to 10 cent  thumbup.gif
My opinion is better buy a stable, mature,cheap technology, rather than future, unusual technology.
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Wahlau like this why we all ever upgrade? Better that we all just still use socket A lor, matured chip what.... Muahahahah...

I dont really understand what ur saying, do u mean that if someone right now wanted to upgrade their pc from let say Athlon XP they should get a s939? Why is that? Shouldnt it be wiser to just buy AM2 instead of s939? Come on, just face it s939 is eventually going to be phased out, so would it be better to get hardwares that would be much viable in the future to upgrade?

Let say sample of upgrade path:
Ur suggested way:
Athlon XP > 2006 upgrade s939 (pay RM1k for PCIE, Mobo, CPU) > 2008 upgrade AM3 cpu (pay RM1k++ for DDR2/DDR3, mobo, CPU)

Our suggested way:
Athlon XP > 2006 upgrade AM2 (pay RM1k for PCIE, Mobo, CPU) > 2008 upgrade AM3 cpu (pay RM400+/- CPU)

I donno ar, i still think upgrading straight away to AM2 is much viable the buying s939.. Well performance wise is almost the same so why not just buy something that would save u the hassle in the future... just my 2 cents ar...

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post Jul 21 2006, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Windy87 @ Jul 21 2006, 04:25 PM)
That give us no reason to upgrade com? And stay what we using now forever? Because, Technology is growing. Another few years conroe will phase out and replace by other model. So you mean wait and wait wait? No bad joke for today.  rclxms.gif

Basically, Socket 939 and AM2 are priced at the same price or if not, it is Rm1-5 more expensive. But it more FutureProof Compare to S939 which will be discontinue soon. Also one more thing , AMD will continue develope AM2 for the next 1 and half year and A64 Rev G will be appear end of December . Next mainstream Dual Core 3600+ with 256*2 L2 cache will be available on AM2 only.
Everyone opinion is different on this.
We need to remember this, Socket939/754 already gonna phased out and their are Our yesterday Technology which using DDR1. Socket M2 will be amd new flagship to against intel for today. Anti-HT and 65nm technology will be appear in 2 quatter.

Dota map keep on upgrading and upgrade, why not we stick at Stable, Mature map like 6.27b and dont touch newer ver? Ask yourself.  laugh.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxms.gif
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Ya lor agree with u... Sometimes we need to make decision that would involve future planning... Heck why not? the difference isnt that much what...
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post Jul 22 2006, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(syarat @ Jul 22 2006, 01:58 AM)
is it really 19degrees using stock cooler? cool...

if i want to pair this AM2 with Scythe Mine..will it reach 15degrees?? drool.gif
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Muahahaha... where got only 19 degrees ler... Mine is using stock cooler n the temp controller is reading idle 41 degree n full load 46-50 degrees...
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post Jul 24 2006, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 24 2006, 09:04 AM)
last saturday bought new setup..
quite impressive thought can't oc very high..
just try mild oc yesterday...
lol can't believe i'm on dual core..
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Wah 8tvt mau showing off pc setup already ar? Muahahahaha.. Congrats... rclxms.gif congrats.. on ur dual core... drooling already... drool.gif Wish i still have extra money to get a dual core like urs... thumbup.gif Huhuhuhuhu.... cry.gif
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post Aug 31 2006, 01:49 PM

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Yo abg soulfly, can u edit my rig setup in the 1st page? I recently did some minor changes to my rig setup... Tq abg soulfly..

X2 3600+ Windsor F2 @ 2400mhz | cloudwan | MSI K9N Neo | Kingston DDR2-667 @ 800mhz | stock AMD cooler
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post Sep 5 2006, 10:30 PM

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Well here's my rig SuperPi 32M at 2.3ghz :

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And here's my rig SuperPi 32M at 2.4ghz :

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post Sep 6 2006, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(Mowgli @ Sep 6 2006, 02:08 AM)
hm..AM2 community, i hav a simple ques to ask, if its not OT...

comparing Am2..say 3800 X2, to a Pentium D, i am very sure dat the 3800 pawns Pentium D in terms on heat management and power consumption, bout how bout raw speed wise?
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Raw speed? Muahahahahaha... Well Pentium D do hav a higher speed@megahertz rating but still it cannot finish their processing faster due to the inefficent netburst architechture, if u compare clock per clock, X2 cpu's architechture can do a lot more processes in an processing cycle comparing to a pentium D... thumbup.gif Just check the various reviews at reputable website like anandtech or tomshardware if u dont believe me... smile.gif
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post Sep 8 2006, 10:31 AM

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Wahlau, abg 8tvt ur pics are too big ler... Muahahaha... I'm having prob loading em... Damn u streamyx... Muahahahaha
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post Sep 8 2006, 10:41 AM

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Ok thanx bro..... Showing off ur setup ar? brows.gif Miahaahahahaha... Nice...
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post Sep 8 2006, 10:48 AM

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It seems that my mobo isnt really that o/c friendly... I cant seem to find multiplier adjustment for the HTT.... To o/c stabily i have to throttle my HT to 200mhz... refer my screenshot...

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When i change the HTT multiplier using amdtweaker it could not restart... Haihhhh... So sayang.... Kinda sad coz the mobo can support vdimm up till 2.40v.... Haihhhh... Muahahahhaa..
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post Sep 8 2006, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Sep 8 2006, 10:57 AM)
haha.. atleast can get 667 ddr to climb up untill 800.. pretty good...

@perswis
normally prefered ram will goes for corsair.. but i term of price maybe kingston cheap a bit.. but still perform good.. RMA also not a big problem like patriot..
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Hmmmmm still experimenting to find setting that can work, kinda hard coz most of the AM2 X2 users in lowyat are Asus M2Ne, DFi n Biostar tforce users so i could not compare setting... Haihhhh.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Sep 8 2006, 02:20 PM)
a lot of people complain or argue about MSI's reliability. only a few of them using it without issues.
long time already, i mod straight out of the box!  laugh.gif
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Ya lor, I'm using my mobo without much of an issue for now... The only issue i have is about the low overclockability... Not much of prob with stability right now, but donno ar in the future, i hope it would be ok ar... sweat.gif When i bought the mobo last time there wasnt much of a choice in mobo selection.... sad.gif

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