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post Jan 4 2021, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(DS51 @ Jan 4 2021, 04:28 PM)
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Sound just like my friend with Camry Hybrid.
I mean - a Hybrid is meant to save fuel right?
But the way he drives with me on board - Its impressive how the engine and hybrid system still survives after 175k of hard driving. Toyota quality.

On the highway..minimum 130. Max out 170. Sometimes he will even floor it all the way , with the Power meter going to the extreme end of the meter

And when he wanna slow down, instead of braking early, he downshift to B even at 110. Very frequently.

I drove his Hybrid and yes I can say - The power is impressive. Instant torque. Very willing engine.

FC? I saw his average FC meter showing about 10.x km/L before a long distance drive. Best record only 14km/L.
I guess he doesn't know how to do regenerative braking. Hard braking yes.
Which is why his Fc is considered bad - But he ain't complaining because he can afford the fuel.

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post Jan 5 2021, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jan 4 2021, 06:03 PM)
Sound just like my friend with Camry Hybrid.
I mean - a Hybrid is meant to save fuel right?
But the way he drives with me on board - Its impressive how the engine and hybrid system still survives after 175k of hard driving. Toyota quality.

On the highway..minimum 130. Max out 170. Sometimes he will even floor it all the way , with the Power meter going to the extreme end of the meter

And when he wanna slow down, instead of braking early, he downshift to B even at 110. Very frequently.

I drove his Hybrid and yes I can say - The power is impressive. Instant torque. Very willing engine.

FC? I saw his average FC meter showing about 10.x km/L before a long distance drive. Best record only 14km/L.
I guess he doesn't know how to do regenerative braking. Hard braking yes.
Which is why his Fc is considered bad - But he ain't complaining because he can afford the fuel.
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I believe this same way with my friend here.


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post Jan 5 2021, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jan 4 2021, 06:03 PM)
I mean - a Hybrid is meant to save fuel right?
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hybrid just means got engine & motor lah

while some are designed more for economy, like Prius... some designed more for power, like koenigsegg... and everything in between... no hard n fast rules how you supposed to drive it...

anyways too bad malaysian mentality sucks, so a lot of good looking hybrids and phev don't make it here...
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post Jan 7 2021, 07:53 AM

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probably bestest I can do... 25~26 km/l... hehe come beat me biggrin.gif
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trying to understand behavior...looks like old generation ecvt, engine must come on >70kmh...

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post Jan 7 2021, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jan 7 2021, 07:53 AM)
probably bestest I can do... 25~26 km/l... hehe come beat me biggrin.gif
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trying to understand behavior...looks like old generation ecvt, engine must come on >70kmh...
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what car?
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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jan 7 2021, 11:25 AM)
what car?
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ct200h... normal mode, last few days of subang-sg buloh-kepong...2-3 pax

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post Jan 11 2021, 03:25 PM

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Prius c. Not gonna do this again.
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post Jan 11 2021, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(honkit @ Jan 11 2021, 03:25 PM)
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Prius c. Not gonna do this again.
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congrats!... you beat me thumbup.gif

awesome

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post Jan 19 2021, 10:36 AM

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Different people drive car differently and under different condition so quite meaningless to compare.

I have a HRV and everybody say they get 10 km/l. Mine? Around 8 km/l for very short 2 or 3 km distance town driving.
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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 19 2021, 10:36 AM)
Different people drive car differently and under different condition so quite meaningless to compare.

I have a HRV and everybody say they get 10 km/l. Mine? Around 8 km/l for very short 2 or 3 km distance town driving.
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Agree with you.
My parents have a HRV too (non hybrid version) .
if I were to drive it, with mostly light foot and once in a while "zoom" acceleration, can get 12KM/L, with ECO mode on.
But for my mom, she drives less than 10KM, so yes, can get around 10-11KM/L. Eco Mode turned on.
Oh BTW , they are using 5w30 Honda engine oil, not 0w20. Thinner oil does make a difference.

I think those which claims to get 10KM/L, have really heavy foot, and turn off the ECO mode.





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post Jan 19 2021, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jan 19 2021, 03:51 AM)
Agree with you.
My parents have a HRV too (non hybrid version) .
if I were to drive it, with mostly light foot and once in a while "zoom" acceleration, can get 12KM/L, with ECO mode on. 
But for my mom, she drives less than 10KM, so yes, can get around 10-11KM/L. Eco Mode turned on.
Oh BTW , they are using 5w30 Honda engine oil, not 0w20. Thinner oil does make a difference.

I think those which claims to get 10KM/L, have really heavy foot, and turn off the ECO mode.
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I think the Honda service uses 0W20. Normal range is between 10 to 8 km/l. Depends on driving condition.

I am certain, if for long distance, can easily get 12.








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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 19 2021, 10:36 AM)
Different people drive car differently and under different condition so quite meaningless to compare.

I have a HRV and everybody say they get 10 km/l. Mine? Around 8 km/l for very short 2 or 3 km distance town driving.
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yes we know... just showing potential...

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jan 19 2021, 04:43 AM)
yes we know... just showing potential...
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I have tried with another car. Long distance gentle driving can get me 50% MORE mileage compared to everyday town driving.

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 19 2021, 01:44 PM)
I have tried with another car. Long distance gentle driving can get me 50% MORE mileage compared to everyday town driving.
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...and I'd believe you...

I was testing to get more insights into Toyota's hybrid system... now I know the 1st/2nd gen favours moderate speed and some stop-go town driving and not highway where fc gets worse > 70 kmh... whist the 3rd gen on the Camry can do better... now to study Honda's new hybrid system...
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jan 19 2021, 07:30 AM)
...and I'd believe you...

I was testing to get more insights into Toyota's hybrid system... now I know the 1st/2nd gen favours moderate speed and some stop-go town driving and not highway where fc gets worse > 70 kmh... whist the 3rd gen on the Camry can do better... now to study Honda's new hybrid system...
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I have a friend with a small Prius. He says he pump petrol only once a month and drives like a manic around town.



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post Jan 19 2021, 09:10 PM

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1st gen myvi, 12km/l. Not bad considering its age and city drive all the time.

20yr old nissan, 7km/l. Was nvr meant to b a fuel efficient car in the 1st place so about average for this model. Which im more than happy for being average.

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post Jan 19 2021, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jan 19 2021, 10:51 AM)
Agree with you.
My parents have a HRV too (non hybrid version) .
if I were to drive it, with mostly light foot and once in a while "zoom" acceleration, can get 12KM/L, with ECO mode on. 
But for my mom, she drives less than 10KM, so yes, can get around 10-11KM/L. Eco Mode turned on.
Oh BTW , they are using 5w30 Honda engine oil, not 0w20. Thinner oil does make a difference.

I think those which claims to get 10KM/L, have really heavy foot, and turn off the ECO mode.
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12km/l to me is not a lot. Understandable for a heavy b segment SUV but i think it is equivalent to a c segment sedan with 1.6 - 1.8l NA engine

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post Jan 20 2021, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 19 2021, 10:55 AM)
I think the Honda service uses 0W20. Normal range is between 10 to 8 km/l. Depends on driving condition.

I am certain, if for long distance, can easily get 12.
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Actually not only Honda have 0w20, they do have 5w30, but in Semi form.
Usually they will just put in 5w30 for HRV, unless one specify - "I prefer Fully" .

Long distance, have tried before.
If steady below 110 on the highway, the FC meter can go as high as 18-19Km/l , on a light foot.
And have to discipline oneself to stay on the left lane all the time thumbsup.gif
Yes, its possible.

QUOTE(clockpulses @ Jan 19 2021, 10:56 PM)
12km/l to me is not a lot. Understandable for a heavy b segment SUV but i think it is equivalent to a c segment sedan with 1.6 - 1.8l NA engine
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For comparison - HRV is rated 1257 KG . Proton X50 is around 1325Kg, which is heavier but has a more powerful engine. Why is it heavier than HRV, not sure why. Maybe cause of the turbo and intercooler.
The heaviest is Toyota CHR with 1,385 KG. Yet its 1.8L also.

Since you talk about C segment cars
The Civic 1.8S version weighs the same as HRV - 1251KG.
While the Altis 1.8, is 1,365KG




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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jan 20 2021, 10:33 AM)
Actually not only Honda have 0w20, they do have 5w30, but in Semi form.
Usually they will just put in 5w30 for HRV, unless one specify - "I prefer Fully" .

Long distance, have tried before.
If steady below 110 on the highway, the FC meter can go as high as 18-19Km/l , on a light foot.
And have to discipline oneself to stay on the left lane all the time  :thumbsup: 
Yes, its possible.
For comparison - HRV is rated 1257 KG . Proton X50 is around 1325Kg, which is heavier but has a more powerful engine. Why is it heavier than HRV, not sure why. Maybe cause of the turbo and intercooler.
The heaviest is Toyota CHR with 1,385 KG. Yet its 1.8L also.

Since you talk about C segment cars
The Civic 1.8S version weighs the same as HRV - 1251KG.
While the Altis 1.8, is 1,365KG
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Yes im just saying that those who bought b segment suv should not expect good fc out of it. B segment sedan / hatch is still better than an SUV.

Just my 2cent
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Car Type : Subaru XV (1st gen)
a) Driving Condition : City 100%
Average fuel consumption: 10 KM/L

b) Driving Conditition: Highway (Pan borneo highway) 70% + City 30%
Average fuel consumption: 14 KM/L

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