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 Your Car's FUEL CONSUMPTION, needs info, please...Topic merged..again

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Steponlego
post Dec 26 2020, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Dec 26 2020, 10:41 PM)
1) Model : 2016 Axia SE Auto
2) Petrol Used : Petronas 95
3) Engine Oil Used : Perodua 0w-20
Long Distance
4) Fuel Consumption (in the meter) : 15km/l
4) Fuel Consumption (self measured) : 18.5km/l
5) Driving Condition : 50% highway 50% coastal road. No traffic. 1 extra passenger, +80kg. Half the drive was without aircond
6) Average Speed: 80-85km/h
7) Mileage : ~220km
8) Modification : None

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4) Fuel Consumption (in the meter) : 11.4km/l
4) Fuel Consumption (self measured) : 12.18km/l
5) Driving Condition : 100% urban within Subang Jaya
6) Average Speed: 30km/h
7) Mileage : ~284km
8) Modification : None
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City drive FC surprisingly not that different compared to my old Persona 1.6.
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post Dec 28 2020, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Dec 27 2020, 08:54 PM)
Car type : Proton Inspira 1.8MT 2014
Driving Condition : Highway 60% + City 40%

My fuel consumption is tracked since I got the car till now. smile.gif
My Fuelly Record
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Doesn't look so bad for a car that people always call as a gas guzzler kuat telan minyak.
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post Dec 29 2020, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 29 2020, 08:52 AM)

tighter tolerance calling for thinner viscosity oils all help being more efficient than older CamPro.
can using thinner oil than recommended cause engine be less efficient? usually i leave my engine oil selection to my mechanic, i don't remember which viscosity he use but he always use the cheapest option so i'm pretty sure he use 20w50 mineral. this time i change myself to 10w40, there seems to be a bit of increase in FC.
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post Dec 29 2020, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 29 2020, 10:07 PM)

again, refer back first answer > thinner oils will always be more efficient. if that is the other way around for you, look at other causes/variables.

Could heavier wheels cause higher fuel consumption? Recently replaced the taiwan sport rim to stock proton sport rim. The stock sport rim is dang heavy.
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post Dec 31 2020, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(clockpulses @ Dec 30 2020, 10:35 PM)
Preve Executive CVT. 5.5 year old

Manual calculation: 620km for 50litre full tank

Thats 8.06l /100km vs conputer shows 7.8l

12km+ per litre
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are you using stock proton sport rim or aftermarket? just found out that heavier sport rim can cause higher fuel consumption. in my case it's about 10% increase.
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post Jan 1 2021, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Dec 31 2020, 09:41 PM)
many many years ago I tracked my fc, including gas stations, over 5-year period... had a big spreadsheet n charts too... lol

I found petronas gave the most consistent fc...and easily amongst the top 3

also fc fluctuates about the same time with all stations... like high tide low tide... all stations affected together... so if petronas is bad by x%... shell is also bad by x%... strange can't figure this out

also different cars gave a different overall "best" petrol station... Wira best on Caltex, Accord best on Shell, Altis best on Petronas, etc...

nowadays no more tracking and not too bothered which station liao... hahaha
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Is the fuel consumption liter/100km in the car meter can be trusted? Some says it is not accurate, some say the car ECU should give the most accurate reading because it monitors the amount of fuel the engine use all the time. Which method do you think the best?

My Persona FC used to fluctuates a lot, sometimes 7.9L/100km, sometimes 8.8L/100Km. This year I decided to mess around with the MAP sensor, change air filter and clean throttle body, use heavier stock sport rim, and 10w40 oil instead of mineral 20w50, now the meter is constant at 8.7L/100km (about 10% more fuel consumption). However the mileage per liter doesn't feel changed because 11 liter of Ron95 still give me the same mileage as before.
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post Jan 2 2021, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jan 2 2021, 09:47 AM)
it is accurate with limitations... did you noticed when coasting the instant meter reads 0... or when idling/creeping can give funky numbers? these are wrong numbers... usually it doesn't skew the L/100km too much but it can

the tank fill method would be the most accurate provided you don't trap gas pockets inside when filling
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Got manual calculation result today, turns out to be around 8L/100km while the fuel consumption showed by the meter lowered by 0.1L now at 8.6L/100Km. Persona 2007 1.6 Auto, city drive average speed at 60km/h.

The meter have a known issue, always to trigger check engine light whenever going faster than 110km/h or revving past 3000RPM.
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post Jan 3 2021, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 2 2021, 03:22 PM)
My accord shown a rather accurate km/l from meter vs actual petrol manually check. While my x70 did not, it shown lower fc figure vs actual or manual check, distance running vs petrol fill up
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are you using the same tire and rim size as per the car specification? i'm thinking that maybe my inaccurate meter readings was caused by using a slightly smaller tire size. should use 195/60/15, but currently i use 195/55/15
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post Jan 3 2021, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jan 3 2021, 06:30 PM)
fuel meter and check engine are 2 separate items, usually.
Usually if your check engine light lights up last 3000rpm it's usually a sign of oxygen sensor faulty or spark plug worn out /misfiring, causing the sensor to detect higher levels of unburned petrol.
Had that issue with ex Wira 1.3GLI and spark plug was the cause of check engine suddenly comes on.
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didn't notice any misfiring or lost of power. it's a common issue in persona/gen2. would love to get an obd code reader to confirm it but the code reader thing is confusing.
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post Jan 7 2021, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jan 7 2021, 07:53 AM)
probably bestest I can do... 25~26 km/l... hehe come beat me biggrin.gif
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trying to understand behavior...looks like old generation ecvt, engine must come on >70kmh...
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what car?

 

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