Any owners here using diesel sedan cars?
I.e
i) Proton Wira 2.0D (Private use)
ii) Citroen Xantia 2.0D
iii) Citroen ZX Diesel

OR

Small, turbocharged, Petrol cars:

i) Kancil with L200 or L500 TURBO engine
ii) Nissan March with 1.0L Supercharger engine
iii) Daihatsu Charade with Charade GTTI turbo engine

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Nov 29 2007, 06:10 PM

Let me convert for you.

11.5L/100Km = 8.6957KM/L - Thats one thirsty 2.0L
10L/100KM= 10KM/L - Thats slightly better. Hope for 11KM/L

I see you are kinda promoting this Naza Citra II Rondo ever since its launched. I have a strong gut feeling you are Naza's Salesman.
Correct me if I were to be wrong.

Check your threads here.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/792200?author=funnyTONE

Cheers

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Oct 13 2008, 12:42 PM

Not my MYVI,borrowed

1) Model : Perodua MYVI 1.3 EZI Auto (1st Generation)
2) Petrol Used : Shell Super Unleaded
3) Engine Oil Used : Perodua (PETRONAS) Semi-Synthetic 5W-30
4) Fuel Consumption :
a)283.2KM @ RM 50 = 13.04KM/L (based on RM 2.30/L)
b) RM 0.18/KM
c) Light flashes right exactly when I stopped the car at the petrol pump.How lucky !

5) Driving Condition :
a) To KLIA and Back - 86.5KM
b) To Genting and Back+Some City Driving until light flashes - 196.7KM = Total 283.2KM
c) 3-4 adults (including driver)+ Luggage in both trips.
d) OverDrive option was turned off from KL to Genting and down from Genting

Add & Update - 22nd Oct 2008

Friend's MYVI 1.3 EZI

1) Model : Perodua MYVI 1.3 EZI Auto (1st Generation)
2) Petrol Used : Shell Super Unleaded
3) Engine Oil Used : Perodua (PETRONAS) Semi-Synthetic 5W-30
4) Fuel Consumption :
a) 391 KM @ RM 65 = 13.84 KM/L
b) RM 0.17/KM
c) Light flashes shortly after the 2 bars,when I was with him .How lucky !

5) Driving Condition :
a) To Cyberjaya and back, for work
b) Some city driving

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Oct 22 2008, 07:09 PM

Hehe, now trying out your My Green Oil on my Nissan Sunny.
At present before using MGO, it's doing like 11.5-12KM/L . Aiming for 13KM/L and beyond for city driving, wanna match up with Saga BLM.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Oct 23 2008, 05:45 PM

1) Model : Nissan Sunny 130Y
2) Petrol Used : Esso/Mobil RON 97
3) Engine Oil Used : Perodua 5W-30 Semi-Synthetic oil
4) Fuel Consumption : RM 25/190KM (RM 1.80/L,not full tank,drive till E) = 13.6KM/L , 13sens/KM
5) Driving Condition :City driving
6) Average Speed/Max rpm : 2000-2500RPM
7) Latest mileage : 210,XXXKM
8) Modification : S-Flow Muffler, bullet center muffler , NGK G-Power platinum spark plugs
9) Loading factor: Most of the time single occupancy & air-cond rosak for the moment.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Feb 12 2009, 01:45 PM

This is my recent fuel consumption for KL-Malacca-KL

1) Model : Nissan Sunny 130y
2) Petrol Used : Mobil/Esso Synergy
3) Engine Oil Used : Shell Rimula R1 SAE 40
4) Fuel Consumption : RM 70 for 500KM (12.9Km/L or RM 0.14/KM @ RM 1.80/L)
5) Driving Condition : 80% highway, 20% city (incl. stuck in the damn Melaka town jam)
6) Average Speed/Max rpm : 3000RPM @100KM/H on highway, only once went to 120Km/h for a short while.
7) Latest mileage : 210,xxxKM

Thanks to Melaka traffic jam on a weekend, I was stuck from A Formasa to Dataran Pahlawan for 30-45mins! Damn I could see my petrol needle dropped. Otherwise I would had gotten alot better FC.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Jul 9 2009, 09:12 AM

Update 1
1) Model : Nissan Sunny 130Y
2) Petrol Used : Esso/Mobil RON 97
3) Engine Oil Used : ACE Hardware SAE 30 Monograde
4) Best Fuel Consumption : RM 60/460KM (Highway+Town driving) = 13.8KM/L, 13sens/KM
5) Driving Condition :KLIA-Cyberjaya-PJ and Cyberjaya again.
6) Average Speed/Max rpm : Max speed 140Km/h, average 80-100Km/h.
7) Latest mileage : 220,XXXKM
8) Modification : S-Flow Muffler, bullet center muffler , NGK G-Power platinum spark plugs

Update 2
4) Best Fuel Consumption : RM 30/220KM (Town driving) = 13.2KM/L, 13sens/KM
5) Driving Condition : PJ & KL
6) Average Speed/Max rpm : average 80-100Km/h.

Way Way too high. Please dont use Petronas or worse, Shell. It runs best on Esso on Fuel economy and best power output or BHP for optimum FC.
Otherwise it can use Caltex which delivers average fuel economy.

Also, please don't use over-thick oils such as Castrol 20w-50. That will kill the engine slowly, and also kill the FC.

Use 10W-40 or monogrades. Best of course is 10W-30 but monitor the oil consumption as old engines tend to consume faster than 40.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: May 20 2010, 01:33 PM

Car model : Nissan Sunny 130Y Manual
Petrol used : Petronas PRIMAX 97
Engine oil : Mobil Delvac 15W-40
Fuel consumption : 15.7KM/L or 6.37L/100KM
Mileage : 225KM
Volume : RM 30
Driving Condition: Cyberjaya - Mutiara Damansara - Cyberjaya - Home - Work - Cyberjaya again
Average Speed/rpm: 75Km-80Km/h @ 2000RPM
Max Speed/rpm: 90Km/H @ 2500RPM
Latest mileage: 230K over
Modification: Standard Stock
Driving style: Light on foot

485km for 39little = 12.44km/l for city driving.
Thats slightly better than my Wira 1.3 Aeroback.
Mine is average around 11Km/l now for city driving. Hoping to get 12Km/L with the help of Kancil oil.

And I tried ESSO fuel , just 1 tank only...can feel the fuel consumption is immediately horrendous.
So it's recommended to use SHELL petrol for Wira/Satria 4G1x engine.

I am using Shell Helix HX5 10w-30...the oil which mechanics brand it "Kancil oil".

Holy Cow!
This is only 2.2L , but your best record is only 6KM/L ?
Even an SUV with 2.0L won't be that thirsty! This is only a sedan car.

I think you should really send to a Honda specialist to check it out. Something really not right.
Tuning totally out, Bro.

I agree with you also la, Abu, about driver's right foot.
But If you see he claims about 130-150Km for RM 50 or max 230KM per RM 90
All that averages about 6KM/L.

if it's a 3000CC engine SUV or MPV, then it's Normal la..
But this one is a 2200cc , sedan car.. a figure should be around 9km/L, the best 10km/L or more.

And if you see he claims he drives "60% Highway, 40% City. 80km/h-100km/h usually, 2800-3000rpm", should be achieving better than that. That means he drives moderately.
And he claims also he drives slowly when he is not in a hurry as what he quote
"sometimes do run in 40km/h-60km/h if I not really want to back to home that fast. 1500-2100rpm."

So IMO, I dont think it's driver issue.

I Agree with azeemzuhair

Hypermilling is good, but it needs loads of constant right foot discipline.
And get ready to be honked and sworn by other drivers.
I tried it, but I admit, my discipline can't last a full tank...today I can be an angel, tomorrow and few days later..I'm back to being a devil.

(And I dont understand some Hybrid car drivers here, still want to speed very fast on the road, with a Hybrid. Then whats the point of buying a Hybrid??)

Okay, back to Harry93's Accord.

I did a search on Fuelly.com
http://www.fuelly.com/car/honda/accord

if you see those 1994, 95, 96,97 Accord.
All average about 10.63 KM/L to 11.05KM/L.
Mind you, thats average,real life driving from real drivers. Not test track drivers.
And yes, US do have traffic jams.

So as you can see, Harry's Accord is way way off the averages.
If it were me, I would start pinpointing the engine itself.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: May 9 2012, 04:56 PM

For Proton Wira users, dont ever ever use/support Petronas Primax. Blood sucking petrol.

Here is mine using Petronas.

Car Type : Wira 1.3
a.KMs : 260 KM
b.RM : 40.00
c.Ratio : RM0.15/km
d. 12.4KM/L
Engine Oil: Shell Helix HX3 10W-30
And this is most of the time on highway..less on city driving

And here is mine using Shell
a. KMs: 220KM
b: RM : 30
c: Ratio: RM 0.14/KM
d: 13.9KM/L



This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Jul 9 2012, 06:36 PM

My bro in law's Jazz with same engine and 5 speed auto tranny.
Always stuck in traffic jams. 100% full city driving.

You know what his computer odometer read out averages consistently? 6.9km/l. Yes.
No joke. I took a snapshot of it. I reset 2 times already each fuel up still averages the same figure.m
Mileage already 3500km.


This is because the gearbox Is rather tuned to be more aggressive in performance than to save fuel. Its difficult to drive with low revs in a Jazz/city. It always wants to rev high, even if step on the accelerator mildly. In other words it feels very spirited, like a mini performance hot hatch or sedan. Difficult to tame a spirited car like this one.
After all, its a Honda.

Even a 2.4l Harrier SUV shows much better fc of 8km/l, due to constant low revs, and engine doesnt need to work that hard.


This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Dec 26 2012, 05:37 PM

Brother. Thats L/100KM
If its 12.4L/100KM = 8.33333 KM/L = Walao wei
Almost like 2.2L engine and above.

But then again..engine still..virgin la..give the girl sometime to lubricate herself..

Getting 10.5km/l for city driving, and driving a 1400kg mpv is an improvement over Innova. Especially when the turbo boost + cvt is additive. (I love blowing away those cars at green light).

My family exora still new. Now showing avg 12.x L/100km. Need time. Who cares if the badge is PROTON from the outside. its the european engineering in the engine compartment that counts. im loving it. (Sorry proton bashers)

There can be only few answers

1) He just reset the trip meter or he just fuel up (and thats why the fuel consumption meter show new, but very high consumption reading), cause the petrol needle is at F and he baru just drove out of the petrol station.

2) Idling or redline the engine for a damn long time after just done Item # 1.

26L/100KM is equivalent to 3.8KM/L. Nah, I wont buy that.

For city driving it can vary from 10.6L - 12.3L/100km, depending on the driver's right foot and the petrol brand.
In km/l , thats 8.1km/l to 9.4km/l.
Highway driving can go as low as 8l/100km (12.5km/l)

Shell is the worst enemy for exora turbo. Thats why i got 8.1km/l

BTW, where were you heading?

Based on your time differences, its about 18 mins drive,
At 80Km/H , my guess is that you probably done about 24 Kilometres.

Speed Calculator

I still think you need to cover at least 100KMs to get a more accurate figure.