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Morning! Been diving for so long and now it's time to float up
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Redtone, seemed to have broken out of its downtrend. Not sure if you noticed. ( Past comment - posting #4318 Things would look much clearer if breaks out of 68, |
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AHB today 30cents !
go go go ! a good company with bad operator will lead the price to holland, a bad company with good operator will lead the price to heavan ! tight down ur seatbelt ! we r going heavan ! |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Feb 20 2014, 08:51 AM) AHB today 30cents ! yea... today is the day to see what kind of ingredient AhBee got. go go go ! a good company with bad operator will lead the price to holland, a bad company with good operator will lead the price to heavan ! tight down ur seatbelt ! we r going heavan ! 30 sen ah? |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Feb 20 2014, 08:56 AM) ah bone say 30cents tutup mata... i believe it will be destini... 40cents plus.... just the matter of times... I have no idea if this 30 sen will come or not... But today is a good day to watch. I think I would like to watch if THE other day is the action of a collection of mini sharks or the real stuff. ps: cannot compare destini with AhBee ma... need to compare the right papayas lor.... AhBee business not very sexy laaa..... as you, this sector, don't have a good reputation with a lot of people. |
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ahbee is a turnaround company... sky is the limit under dato tiong's capable hands
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 09:00 AM) I have no idea if this 30 sen will come or not... But today is a good day to watch. I think I would like to watch if THE other day is the action of a collection of mini sharks or the real stuff. ps: cannot compare destini with AhBee ma... need to compare the right papayas lor.... AhBee business not very sexy laaa..... as you, this sector, don't have a good reputation with a lot of people. 30cents lai liao |
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AHB is fantastic la....too bad me throw away yesterday liao
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I also throw mine too early...
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Wao, PJDev non-stop since end of last year.
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AHB and Marco seem to be sliding down now.
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wakakaka nice number for the high 28 !!
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tiap tiap hari have to see CB go new high
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 09:26 AM) well of course will kek sim a bit but then i made the decision liao....coz it started rally since monday so today is T+3 for some people....so i was thinking better lock in profit first hahaaa |
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QUOTE(kalandra @ Feb 20 2014, 09:24 AM) made some small wind talk on it yesterday. See posting #5350. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 09:35 AM) Bought it because Sky recommended it for it solid fundamentals (profit making + give dividend) and he said something might be up sooner or later.But was very lucky, the next day it immediately shoot up. Since got profit already, of course tempted to take it. So 50/50 here right now. |
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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Feb 20 2014, 09:29 AM) well of course will kek sim a bit No need to kek sim lah.but then i made the decision liao....coz it started rally since monday so today is T+3 for some people....so i was thinking better lock in profit first hahaaa I can only see it running wild but is unable to buy at all. I lagi kek sim lah. |
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dropping jor
quarterly result not announce jor meh? http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...%20Q2%20(2).pdf |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 09:35 AM) if you calculate back their divvy history, its will considered undervalued now oh ya btw, i need your help a bit. can you take a look at fitters? i think its still underrated but the share damn stubborn to move as well |
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Feb 20 2014, 09:29 AM) too bad la my account cant buy AHB share you can open account with me...need to change broker or not if like that? my account can buy everything in bursa.. as long as u got money... QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 09:29 AM) sure no problem la...mari .... |
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QUOTE(kalandra @ Feb 20 2014, 09:38 AM) Bought it because Sky recommended it for it solid fundamentals (profit making + give dividend) and he said something might be up sooner or later. But was very lucky, the next day it immediately shoot up. Since got profit already, of course tempted to take it. So 50/50 here right now. Oh it was a tipsy! Need to check with Gark but I thought its fundamentals mah mah only. Divvy yield is good but ... With the warrants in the money, the conversion of warrants needs to be accounted for... Which means, actually the shares was about fairly valued.... But since it's one of Robert's share... with Maica already heavily in action... there was always a chance that Marco could fly... And if you had noticed... the other horse in Robert's stable, Jasakita, ran solidy from 16.5 sen to 20 sen, a day earlier on the 18th... which meant... sooner or later Marco would fly too.... |
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My other long time kangkung also rice with small volume.
Quarterly result must be very very leng chai. Go go KSL. |
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Boon... Armada's result is not good, but the price is steady... haha this one super coma company.
CB continue Ah boon golden words trend.. |
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Feb 20 2014, 09:41 AM) if you calculate back their divvy history, its will considered undervalued now OH fitters.... oh ya btw, i need your help a bit. can you take a look at fitters? i think its still underrated but the share damn stubborn to move as well must have missed your posting... sorry. It was talked about here and there on the old thread la... maybe you want to use the search function... search on Fitters with it being a chapalang/rojak/diversified company, one issue I discovered and posted recently... QUOTE Some of the companies venturing into properties needs lots of study. Fitters have been venturing quite big into properties... but if one is an investor and studies the projects in detail.. this is one of Fitters project... http://homes.trovit.my/index.php/cod.frame...on_type.1/pop.1 Looks nice but try drive to the project itself... and look at the surroundings... you would be shocked...... |
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Would you have a clue on determining minimum share price? say if the share will be listing 2 rights for every 1 share at 0.20, and 2 free warrants for every 3 rights? any formula to share? This post has been edited by lambethwalk: Feb 20 2014, 09:53 AM |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 09:52 AM) Boon3 Aiyoooo..... this one better ask garkWould you have a clue on determining minimum share price? say if the share will be listing 2 rights for every 1 share at 0.20, and 2 free warrants for every 3 rights? any formula to share? For me... whenever I get something like this... I call Mr. Lee. |
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boon gor, u are very good in fundamental thinking and technical thinking...
but what important in bursa is future information .... buy when ppl dare not touch... make it become angel ... then all analyst give them a buy call..... not cari pasal in the morning... just want to tell the fact... PAST HISTORY WILL NOT CHANGE FUTURE ! but we can use present to change future.... |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 09:52 AM) Boon3 shares price after ex = Share price now x 1/2 x 1.5/2 Would you have a clue on determining minimum share price? say if the share will be listing 2 rights for every 1 share, and 2 free warrants for every 3 rights? any formula to share? This post has been edited by gark: Feb 20 2014, 09:55 AM |
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Feb 20 2014, 09:54 AM) boon gor, u are very good in fundamental thinking and technical thinking... Macha... but what important in bursa is future information .... buy when ppl dare not touch... make it become angel ... then all analyst give them a buy call..... not cari pasal in the morning... just want to tell the fact... PAST HISTORY WILL NOT CHANGE FUTURE ! but we can use present to change future.... Hahahaha..... guess what.... I agree. Remember... this is also why I say.... I use charts but I don't let charts use me. however... the other thing is.... me not like you.... I am not in the industry.... so I need to adjust my play to what my limited skills allows ...... |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 09:58 AM) Macha... hahahaHahahaha..... guess what.... I agree. Remember... this is also why I say.... I use charts but I don't let charts use me. however... the other thing is.... me not like you.... I am not in the industry.... so I need to adjust my play to what my limited skills allows ...... that is why i am here to share what i know.... dont let ppl kena trap a lot ..... if not everyone die..... who still dare to jump in stock market...... 1 stock like Yinson can change our life already what... why still need more like me.... can become millionaire easily if catch 1 golden chicken ! |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 09:54 AM) QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 09:55 AM) i'm thinking this could be a very good way of determining how much a share price will be PUSHED UP before listing of rights i.e. rights issue play. if can get the formula right.. for example: current share price is 0.19 proposed rights issue price 0.20 2 rights for every 1 share 2 free warrants for every 3 rights the surety of the company needing to push up share price beyond 0.20 is 100% correct? coz the rights price is already priced at 0.20 vs current price of 0.19 only then now it leaves calculating how much the range could be i.e. minimum price of the share being pushed up to make the whole rights/warrants listing work and to get people to actually subscribe. gark, your formula still workable for this scenario then? |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:05 AM) i'm thinking this could be a very good way of determining how much a share price will be PUSHED UP before listing of rights i.e. rights issue play. if can get the formula right.. Oh the formula have not include the rights price. if got rights price add back 20 cent x 2 into the formula.for example: current share price is 0.19 proposed rights issue price 0.20 2 rights for every 1 share 2 free warrants for every 3 rights the surety of the company needing to push up share price beyond 0.20 is 100% correct? coz the rights price is already priced at 0.20 vs current price of 0.19 only then now it leaves calculating how much the range could be i.e. minimum price of the share being pushed up to make the whole rights/warrants listing work and to get people to actually subscribe. gark, your formula still workable for this scenario then? Who in the right mind will buy rights without at least 20% discount... unless the warrant conversion price is very cheap. If you can give all the prices, i can work out theory price... |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:05 AM) i'm thinking this could be a very good way of determining how much a share price will be PUSHED UP before listing of rights i.e. rights issue play. if can get the formula right.. YES!for example: current share price is 0.19 proposed rights issue price 0.20 2 rights for every 1 share 2 free warrants for every 3 rights the surety of the company needing to push up share price beyond 0.20 is 100% correct? coz the rights price is already priced at 0.20 vs current price of 0.19 only then now it leaves calculating how much the range could be i.e. minimum price of the share being pushed up to make the whole rights/warrants listing work and to get people to actually subscribe. gark, your formula still workable for this scenario then? you are correct. in a way, you can always guesstimate. this way, you are not trading blindly. well done! ( cannot comment on calculations la... my counting kaput one. good thinking. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 10:07 AM) Oh the formula have not include the rights price. if got rights price add back 20 cent x 2 into the formula. it's there.. i copy here again *kancheong already*Who in the right mind will buy rights without at least 20% discount... unless the warrant conversion price is very cheap. If you can give all the prices, i can work out theory price... current share price is 0.19 proposed rights issue price 0.20 2 rights for every 1 share 2 free warrants for every 3 rights |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 10:11 AM) the counter only has mother. no warrant proposed renounceable rights issue of up to 106,718,796 new ordinary shares of RM0.20 each on the basis of two (2) Rights Shares for every one (1) existing share together with up to 71,145,864 free detachable new warrants on the basis of two (2) New Warrants for every three (3) Rights Shares subscribed by the entitled shareholders thats all current share price 0.190 This post has been edited by lambethwalk: Feb 20 2014, 10:16 AM |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:15 AM) the counter only has mother. no warrant ahem..ahem the new warrant to be issued... proposed renounceable rights issue of up to 106,718,796 new ordinary shares of RM0.20 each on the basis of two (2) Rights Shares for every one (1) existing share together with up to 71,145,864 free detachable new warrants on the basis of two (2) New Warrants for every three (3) Rights Shares subscribed by the entitled shareholders thats all All warrant have ex price and expiry.. you let me know which counter better |
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AhLamb so kan cheong-ing about AhBee.....
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tried to do the same with XDL last time, which earned me spare change
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:21 AM) correct info la... BEFORE the spike No no.. calculation is done on the ex date not when it is proposed. need to calculate before the spike.... proposed rights was last year Also i check AhB already previously got WA issued 2004/2014.... Wah hard to calculate wor... |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 10:23 AM) No no.. calculation is done on the ex date not when it is proposed. oops, got warrant already ahahahahhahahahahahaha Also i check AhB already previously got WA issued 2004/2014.... Wah hard to calculate wor... ok, how about XDL case study then? also end last year case |
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Aiya... you too kan cheong alreadt...
Still proposal only... the rights share price not determined yet and the warrant conversion price also not determined yet... The illustrative price of 0.20 is because cannot rights issue below the par value of AhB .. which is 0.20 Cannot count. Wait for further news |
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or easiest method, just hantam 30% on top of current price before listing
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 10:27 AM) Aiya... you too kan cheong alreadt... ok when out already, i remind you again Still proposal only... the rights share price not determined yet and the warrant conversion price also not determined yet... The illustrative price of 0.20 is because cannot rights issue below the par value of AhB .. which is 0.20 Cannot count. Wait for further news |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:33 AM) No fool proof one.. no matter how good you calculate, depend on the stock sentiment one lar....Last time i got rights/warrant issue... even though already pre-calculated... Some got make big money (WCT) Some broke even... or earn little bit... Some kelong after rights/warrant issue... For warrant price I use black-scholes formula to calculate fair value... This post has been edited by gark: Feb 20 2014, 10:39 AM |
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Boon...
I am thinking to use trailing stop loss for stock which has exceeded my fair value... Those stock which i want to sell due to FA but still persistently going up, so i let it go on but want to protect my profits. 5% trailing stop loss ok boh? |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 10:45 AM) Boon... my stop loss is throw back same price or 1bid cut...I am thinking to use trailing stop loss for stock which has exceeded my fair value... Those stock which i want to sell due to FA but still persistently going up, so i let it go on but want to protect my profits. 5% trailing stop loss ok boh? |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 10:45 AM) Boon... i also want to know I am thinking to use trailing stop loss for stock which has exceeded my fair value... Those stock which i want to sell due to FA but still persistently going up, so i let it go on but want to protect my profits. 5% trailing stop loss ok boh? |
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Noob question. How you judge the FV?
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 10:45 AM) Boon... It's a great idea.I am thinking to use trailing stop loss for stock which has exceeded my fair value... Those stock which i want to sell due to FA but still persistently going up, so i let it go on but want to protect my profits. 5% trailing stop loss ok boh? Have you ever read How To Make Money in Stocks? There's two chapters in the book that should help you greatly. If you are not sure with charts, using percentage stops is ok. But I would advice you to be flexible a bit... especially when the stock fly strongly... for example, the stock I just potong recently got in last year... mid Sep if I remember correctly.... as you can see.... it's way passed anyone's targets.... after the split... one time... I had my potong point at 2.... ( at that point... even cutting at 180, I would be damn happy) if use percentages... it was close to 20% off the peak... I almost... almost.... sold..... it. no joke... but somehow, I guess .... I was lucky also.... I did not... When I potong ... it was 308. and guess what.... at the start of the day.... I had ZERO potong point for the stock.... stock was trending up like mad.... getting out wasn't even on my mind........ meaning to say.... i think it's best be flexible..... and yes there are many ways to be use the potong higher strategy. For example again... the almost 2 stock... Well at this moment of time.... just assuming... you have your FV point at 175.... stock now 193... well.... you could even use a simple non mathematical potong formula/non charing formula... by 'increasing' your exit point to 180.... as long as the stock is higher than 180..... you stay put.... now if the stock moves another 5 or 10 sen higher.... you move your potong point 5 or 10 sen higher too... to say 185. this way... you give the stock some consoildating point but you also give increase your min profits higher.... yeah... many, many ways to do it. Some just use charts.... as long the chart don't say sell... they stay... even if the price has gone crazily above the FV point. |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:55 AM) Use AhBee as an example....use a non charting/non mathematical method... ok? say err..... aha.... use Jerry... LOL! Jerry got out at 25 sen. (he loud loud say so just now. So rite now, you just want to do better than Jerry.... since 20 sen stock... maybe u can give 3 bids (non mathemetical formula... so it's up to you. U can use 4 or 5 bids) as a leeway point for the stock to move up and down... price now 275 sen. 3 bids leeway = 26 sen. which is higher than Jerry selling point. Wakakakaka.... LOL! ( I am so mean... Now as long as the stock is higher than 26 sen... You STAY in the trade no matter what.... now say... the stock moves higher 3 bid... to 29 sen... huhuhu..... now you fast hand fast leg... move your POTONG point 3 bids higher too... which means your point is now 275. Then you look at Jerry..... OMG! LOL! and then what do you have?..... you are sitting on the stock... riding on ur profits.... |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:04 AM) It's a great idea. Great info.. will take time to read and digest.. trying to learn so TA to complement FA.. Have you ever read How To Make Money in Stocks? There's two chapters in the book that should help you greatly. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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AhLamb...
or you could look at your trade... look at your current winning .... and say.... ok... as long as I am making x amount... I stay in.... then whenever the stock moves higher.... you MUST be greedy... and move your min x amount of profit higher. |
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i have never averaged up before... no guts
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 11:15 AM) Seriously it should be a helping hand... you know ... u have a stock ... moving strongly pass your FV... dun tell me... just cos it move pass, you just sell.... if you know some TA... and you read and know when to sell..... I think it will help.... It's protecting and giving you a chance to increase your profits. Buffett was said to be reading charts when he was in his early teens. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:19 AM) Seriously it should be a helping hand... you know ... u have a stock ... moving strongly pass your FV... dun tell me... just cos it move pass, you just sell.... if you know some TA... and you read and know when to sell..... I think it will help.... It's protecting and giving you a chance to increase your profits. Buffett was said to be reading charts when he was in his early teens. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 11:21 AM) Ya starting to practice trailing stop loss.. currently got 3 stocks already pass my FV but still zooming. Here's one practice which could also help...a bit risky..... everything it goes out of your FV... you take the stock... move it out of your watchlist.... You are not allowed to watch these stocks during the day.... You can only see their closing or opening prices. Well this exercise ...... helps to calm your itchy fingers. Hihihihi..... And most of the time.... these stocks... they tend to move higher... and higher.... |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:24 AM) Here's one practice which could also help... Tak boleh tahan... how also must see.. a bit risky..... everything it goes out of your FV... you take the stock... move it out of your watchlist.... You are not allowed to watch these stocks during the day.... You can only see their closing or opening prices. Well this exercise ...... helps to calm your itchy fingers. Hihihihi..... And most of the time.... these stocks... they tend to move higher... and higher.... |
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fuuuu its great reading about how you guys view this complex share matters with such ease.
i am a newbie in all this and am struggling to understand the ups and downs of shares!!! |
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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:31 AM) fuuuu its great reading about how you guys view this complex share matters with such ease. Same here. As the old saying goes, you're bound to get burnt when you start out before you truly learn.i am a newbie in all this and am struggling to understand the ups and downs of shares!!! |
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understand liao boon
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This fat mama &a& cannot move even though 6+ mil share has been bought...
Really hard to move like elephant... |
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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:34 AM) i still dare not open cds account If don't understand, do what I did last time...better listen listen read read if got tt for live listening even beta haha stay away from the market... until you are absolutely sure about what you are doing... the share market can kill one.... it has happen... and will continue to happen... |
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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:38 AM) i also dunno how to open. my noob level is beyond your comprehension LOL No need open account first..i got live account to monitor though, not those delayed in bursa website one... Try paper trading or those simulation online first. Once you got confidence then only use real money. Try pick a stock and pretend to buy... then pretend to sell... see how much you can earn? Then try many times more... until you are confident you can earn consistently before put new money. This advice brought to you by Boon3.. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:39 AM) If don't understand, do what I did last time... I also don't understand the market all that well, but I'm getting old. Have to gamble a bit and try my luck. Trying very desperate to learn from all the sifus herestay away from the market... until you are absolutely sure about what you are doing... the share market can kill one.... it has happen... and will continue to happen... |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 11:35 AM) This fat mama &a& cannot move even though 6+ mil share has been bought... It's a positive start.... Really hard to move like elephant... I think.... However..... if you compare.... to previous NOV strong movements... ;sweat: yesterday trading.... is like nothing.... it's probably like Oct trading volume.... back then... if you look back... engine ... baru starting....... |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:42 AM) It's a positive start.... Ya FV 1.60... I think.... However..... if you compare.... to previous NOV strong movements... ;sweat: yesterday trading.... is like nothing.... it's probably like Oct trading volume.... back then... if you look back... engine ... baru starting....... Will continue waiting... maybe take 1-2 years.. |
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it's like last time..... again.... if you ask me.... game is only on.... once 96 is broken ................................ so watch the volume... watch the momentum. |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Feb 20 2014, 11:41 AM) I also don't understand the market all that well, but I'm getting old. Have to gamble a bit and try my luck. Trying very desperate to learn from all the sifus here Yes, on one hand market is indeed a big gamble.RISKS are aplenty everywhere.... But simply trying luck.... errr ..... very much not advisable. Practice before you start betting with real money. Myself, did many years of practice..... |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:46 AM) Yes, on one hand market is indeed a big gamble. I've been doing that for a few months, but with real money, in small quantity. Mostly breakevens / small gains due to small quantity. Still a bit scared to play intraday / T + 3 in volume.RISKS are aplenty everywhere.... But simply trying luck.... errr ..... very much not advisable. Practice before you start betting with real money. Myself, did many years of practice..... |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Feb 20 2014, 11:48 AM) I've been doing that for a few months, but with real money, in small quantity. Mostly breakevens / small gains due to small quantity. Still a bit scared to play intraday / T + 3 in volume. I did almost 5 years of practice. you do with real money... you end up... paying tuition fees... something which I think is un-neccessary ....... A waste of money... and if you not careful.... trousers will fall out... My practice sessions had several times when I lost all. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:51 AM) I did almost 5 years of practice. Hehe ... Thanks for the advise. Ya, I do keep a small booklet for simulation practises on those stocks that I cannot afford.you do with real money... you end up... paying tuition fees... something which I think is un-neccessary ....... A waste of money... and if you not careful.... trousers will fall out... My practice sessions had several times when I lost all. I have set aside 15k for trading, of which 3 - 4k I'm prepared to pay tuition fees. That's why I have to enter very carefully. Can only be adventurous on paper |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Feb 20 2014, 11:54 AM) Hehe ... Thanks for the advise. Ya, I do keep a small booklet for simulation practises on those stocks that I cannot afford. i just started last year also... I have set aside 15k for trading, of which 3 - 4k I'm prepared to pay tuition fees. That's why I have to enter very carefully. Can only be adventurous on paper |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 11:55 AM) evil you.... I just peeped after your posting... ahem... your horse added another 6 sen this morning... while uli has been on the red all morning.... let me guess.... you took profit. now you follow AhLoo.... you.... jumped ship. LOL! |
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Guh!!! boon3 I know wrong jo @@
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:57 AM) evil you.... I just peeped after your posting... ahem... your horse added another 6 sen this morning... while uli has been on the red all morning.... let me guess.... you took profit. now you follow AhLoo.... you.... jumped ship. LOL! riding on both horses now This post has been edited by lambethwalk: Feb 20 2014, 11:59 AM |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:57 AM) evil you.... I just peeped after your posting... ahem... your horse added another 6 sen this morning... while uli has been on the red all morning.... let me guess.... you took profit. now you follow AhLoo.... you.... jumped ship. LOL! |
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Boon3 spot-on, JTI continues its downtrend to 6.3+
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This thread is amazing with so many great advices. Gonna dive and look at all those comments before I'm able to comment.
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Actually, what's the deal between uli and guh?
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 12:20 PM) lousy TA meh? Err.. my interpretation looks TA not good so woh... primary uptrend still pretty much intact... just that.... err .... not moving up for the time being. But going down on low volume.. should have uptrend coming... This post has been edited by gark: Feb 20 2014, 12:22 PM |
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Quick question, I'm trying to search for 1MDB, but cannot find .... What's the stock code ah?
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 12:47 PM) Haha, been holding AA for quite a while already, no up, so drop it for something else. Can't let money stuck there all the time, might as well put in bank like that Scicom broker recommend de, thus far, she has helped me earn some kfc buckets, so I kinda trust her. BAT leave it there only nia ... |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Feb 20 2014, 12:50 PM) Haha, been holding AA for quite a while already, no up, so drop it for something else. Can't let money stuck there all the time, might as well put in bank like that share your broker tipsy's here ya Scicom broker recommend de, thus far, she has helped me earn some kfc buckets, so I kinda trust her. BAT leave it there only nia ... |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Feb 20 2014, 11:39 AM) haha so simple tqtqQUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:39 AM) If don't understand, do what I did last time... haha.. seems like a good advice from a seasoned investorstay away from the market... until you are absolutely sure about what you are doing... the share market can kill one.... it has happen... and will continue to happen... QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 11:40 AM) No need open account first.. hahaTry paper trading or those simulation online first. Once you got confidence then only use real money. Try pick a stock and pretend to buy... then pretend to sell... see how much you can earn? Then try many times more... until you are confident you can earn consistently before put new money. This advice brought to you by Boon3.. let's say i don't wanna quick buck i just want uncle version, which is put in and wait for dividend and after 1 year review that kind. not those intraday hentam RM0.025 |
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Mild Seven and Winston...6.30
Either excise hike (again), or insider playing/dumping BAT immune...so the latter seems more likely? This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Feb 20 2014, 03:55 PM |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 20 2014, 04:24 PM) As Boon always advice.Dont catch falling knife... Wait till the fall has stabilized first. Resuming uptrend, then only buy. This post has been edited by gark: Feb 20 2014, 04:25 PM |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 20 2014, 04:25 PM) See loh as long as the blood letting got some pause then only strike...but must be quick. 10/02/2014 6.50 7.20 +0.70 (10.77%) HOLD AMMB 07/01/2014 6.60 7.20 +0.60 (9.09%) HOLD AMMB 03/01/2014 6.48 7.20 +0.72 (11.11%) HOLD AMMB 25/11/2013 6.57 6.27 -0.30 (4.57%) HOLD RHB 25/11/2013 6.57 7.20 +0.63 (9.59%) BUY MAYBANK 25/11/2013 6.57 7.05 +0.48 (7.31%) HOLD HLG 25/11/2013 6.57 7.06 +0.49 (7.46%) HOLD CIMB 22/11/2013 6.50 5.72 -0.78 (12.00%) SELL RHB 22/11/2013 6.50 7.20 +0.70 (10.77%) BUY MAYBANK 22/11/2013 6.50 7.05 +0.55 (8.46%) HOLD HLG what divvy you expect... last year only paid 22 cents nia... This post has been edited by gark: Feb 20 2014, 04:30 PM |
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Feb 20 2014, 03:56 PM) OMIGOD!LOL!!!! Yes patience is virtue Loo... but what type of patience are you practicing? When losing... you fast hand fast leg call for Miss Patience... When winning.. you faster hand and faster leg.... don't even know who Ms Patience is ... and you jump ship. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 08:46 AM) crystalpoyo crystalpoyo ....... errr .... Redtone, seemed to have broken out of its downtrend. Not sure if you noticed. ( Past comment - posting #4318 Things would look much clearer if breaks out of 68, |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 04:28 PM) See loh as long as the blood letting got some pause then only strike...but must be quick. Got some change in divvy pattern...10/02/2014 6.50 7.20 +0.70 (10.77%) HOLD AMMB 07/01/2014 6.60 7.20 +0.60 (9.09%) HOLD AMMB 03/01/2014 6.48 7.20 +0.72 (11.11%) HOLD AMMB 25/11/2013 6.57 6.27 -0.30 (4.57%) HOLD RHB 25/11/2013 6.57 7.20 +0.63 (9.59%) BUY MAYBANK 25/11/2013 6.57 7.05 +0.48 (7.31%) HOLD HLG 25/11/2013 6.57 7.06 +0.49 (7.46%) HOLD CIMB 22/11/2013 6.50 5.72 -0.78 (12.00%) SELL RHB 22/11/2013 6.50 7.20 +0.70 (10.77%) BUY MAYBANK 22/11/2013 6.50 7.05 +0.55 (8.46%) HOLD HLG what divvy you expect... last year only paid 22 cents nia... Previously got 2 years in a row, pay out 15 sen x 2. Then 11 sen x 2 PLUS bumper special divvy This year also 2 x 11 sen already...they wanna break the trend? That's why insiders dumping? This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Feb 20 2014, 04:33 PM |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 20 2014, 04:32 PM) Got some change in divvy pattern... Lets say if special divvy not materialize, how much is the yield?Previously got 2 years in a row, pay out 15 sen x 2. Then 11 sen x 2 PLUS bumper special divvy This year also 2 x 11 sen already...they wanna break the trend? That's why insiders dumping? Die die also they can pay max 35-40 cents only otherwise over the EPS already, then yield berapa? |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 04:35 PM) Lets say if special divvy not materialize, how much is the yield? 11 sen x 3 still got 5.1% yield, better than BAT, lower payout ratio somemoreDie die also they can pay max 35-40 cents only otherwise over the EPS already, then yield berapa? If they stop at 11 sen x 2 a year...then jialat liao This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Feb 20 2014, 04:36 PM |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 20 2014, 04:36 PM) 11 sen x 3 still got 5.1% yield, better than BAT, lower payout ratio somemore IGB is now yielding 6% and no need guess how much is the next year's divvy.... If they stop at 11 sen x 2 a year...then jialat liao plus 5%-7% growth to boot. This post has been edited by gark: Feb 20 2014, 04:40 PM |
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Feb 20 2014, 03:57 PM) Huh?AhLoo the other day, I got remember... posting #4901 chart also got.... ![]() Price 123. price now? 125? Move 2 sen. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 04:47 PM) Huh? yala...but move d...haha... just bring out and say AhLoo the other day, I got remember... posting #4901 chart also got.... ![]() Price 123. price now? 125? Move 2 sen. |
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U guys use metastock? Or some other platforms? Can recommend me 1? Now I'm only using CIMB itrade
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Feb 20 2014, 04:56 PM) ah ok...Race result. U = -3 sen G = even AhLoo, give you challenge. A good honest one. Want or not? I mean, honestly, this one is to just to be an eye opener for... Hope can help you. Ok... your jumping ship technique... Would you dare to share your next 10 trades live with me? After ten trades... we evaluate your jump ship technique.... Ok bah? |
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Any1 know y Pos drop 67 cents to 4.62 today?
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 05:00 PM) ah ok... if kelong very malu wor =='Race result. U = -3 sen G = even AhLoo, give you challenge. A good honest one. Want or not? I mean, honestly, this one is to just to be an eye opener for... Hope can help you. Ok... your jumping ship technique... Would you dare to share your next 10 trades live with me? After ten trades... we evaluate your jump ship technique.... Ok bah? |
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For those like to play momentum.. i got this coma stock suddenly active these few days...6459.. for those daredevils wanna try to catch (or be caught by
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 04:25 PM) As Boon always advice. Today got already...Dont catch falling knife... Wait till the fall has stabilized first. Resuming uptrend, then only buy. yao jor .... POS Malaysia.... apparently earnings kelong. ![]() The volume bar so big... overlap jor cannot see.... must zoom zoom out... ![]() Some trade details pictures... ![]() ![]() ![]() Ok... who wants to guess where and when the stock will bottom? come come... place your bets... Me? My answer is...... I dunno. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 05:55 PM) For those like to play momentum.. i got this coma stock suddenly active these few days...6459.. for those daredevils wanna try to catch (or be caught by Why now only say....? Why? Why? Not a buy call ah... Grumble grumble complain complain grumble grumble.... pecah keluar jor... ![]() Looking nice... Wonder will gostan and ajak Ah Lamb mau naik kereta or not. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 07:05 PM) Why now only say....? Why? Why? No guarantee if gostan ah...Grumble grumble complain complain grumble grumble.... pecah keluar jor... ![]() Looking nice... Wonder will gostan and ajak Ah Lamb mau naik kereta or not. Already got activity since monday.... but sked just 1 day show. Anyway i hold this coma stock for >1 year already... nice dividend yearly. This post has been edited by gark: Feb 20 2014, 07:09 PM |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 07:01 PM) Today got already... This one ah... bought before at 3+ .. but sold at 4+yao jor .... POS Malaysia.... apparently earnings kelong. Ok... who wants to guess where and when the stock will bottom? come come... place your bets... Me? My answer is...... I dunno. For me I say bottom is at 4.50 ... Donno right or wrong... This post has been edited by gark: Feb 20 2014, 07:17 PM |
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Ini mari report excellent results.. EPS 5.31 vs last Q of 4.39..plus another 1.5 cent dividend.
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 07:35 PM) New FV for me RM 2.20... Inimari actually reported that lower sales is due christmas and new year period... or not profit might be higher. This post has been edited by gark: Feb 20 2014, 07:40 PM |
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Gark give tipsy!
But too bad no spare casheeee.... Stock looks like chicken run. And a bit volatile, run up then down very fast Guh more share buy back @ 1.25 hualalalala |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 07:56 PM) Guh more share buy back @ 1.25 hualalalala hualalala ??? hualalala ???? LOL! what kind of laugh is that? ![]() this GUH - I added in MACD and stoch.... GUH still rising despite AhLoo say stoch is 'stretching'....... this is why me don't use indicators.... there are times, they will look damn chun... but there will exist many crucial times... where the indicators can make you look silly....... |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 08:09 PM) hualalalala hualalalala hualalalala!!!!No wonder past few days your stock held strong!http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...to-rm2565m.html] http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...to-rm2565m.html[/URL] QUOTE KUALA LUMPUR (Feb 20): Property developer Tropicana Corporation Bhd said its net profit for the fourth quarter to end-December 2013, surged 313% to 256.5 million, from RM62.1 million reported in the previous corresponding quarter. Group revenue increased 90% to RM444.7 million, from RM234.4 million a year ago. For the full year of 2013, net profit attributable to shareholders, also soared 112% to RM362.3 million, while group revenue rose 134% to RM1,475.5 million, from RM630.4 million achieved in 2012. “Tropicana’s stellar performance in 2013, was boosted by strong development sales over the past two years,” said Tropicana, in a press statement. The key contributing development projects included Tropicana Grande, Tropicana Avenue and Tropicana Gardens in Central Region, and Tropicana Danga Bay at Iskandar Malaysia. The company said, its success in implementing transformation strategy has enabled Tropicana to achieve key milestones, where new sales in 2013, reached a record high of RM2.16 billion. It added that the group’s unbilled sales at the end of 2013, was at a high of RM2.18 billion — a jump from RM952 million at end-2012. “Going forward, the group plans to launch new projects across key regions in Greater KL, Penang Island and Iskandar Malaysia, Johor… there will be a greater emphasis on landed residential and township developments.” Tropicana said, it aims to sustain the high sales and unbilled sales, enjoyed in the last financial year. It added that its 2,268 acres of landbank across key growth regions in Malaysia, have total estimated GDV (gross development value) of RM81.8 billion. This post has been edited by Boon3: Feb 20 2014, 09:00 PM |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 08:53 PM) hualalalala hualalalala hualalalala!!!! No one past few days your stock held strong![URL= http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...to-rm2565m.html] http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...to-rm2565m.html[/URL] |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 09:51 AM) OH fitters.... thanks boon3, quite insightful i would say. i believe this rojak company did well for 2013Q4. thats why i bought it at 0.80. hard day at work must have missed your posting... sorry. It was talked about here and there on the old thread la... maybe you want to use the search function... search on Fitters with it being a chapalang/rojak/diversified company, one issue I discovered and posted recently... just now was reading your 3 bid stop loss... if play like this no need work jor lor |
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Feb 20 2014, 10:12 PM) thanks boon3, quite insightful i would say. i believe this rojak company did well for 2013Q4. thats why i bought it at 0.80. hard day at work I was actually interested in it.just now was reading your 3 bid stop loss... if play like this no need work jor lor That condo project at Jln Ipoh... quite unreal... it's priced so highly... because if you look at the surrounding area (360 degree)... it will blow your mind... there's no way it could sell... if the buyers know exactly what they are buying.... One side is kampung housing area, one side is B/Raya dump site.. one side kampung squatter area... very unreal... the project is not too bad... nice... but somehow... how could such high quality condo sell at that area? anyway.. those bid stop stuff... those are stuff I have seen done... there's no one size fits all one... whatever works for one might not work for others... however, I for one, always believe in trying to selling higher... using a step up cut profits is a good way to profit profits while letting it run... you could use charts, use supports levels... you could use charts, use sell signals/patterns... you could use fair values but fair values at times can go way over valued.... so whatever fits, it fits. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 10:20 PM) I was actually interested in it. geng!That condo project at Jln Ipoh... quite unreal... it's priced so highly... because if you look at the surrounding area (360 degree)... it will blow your mind... there's no way it could sell... if the buyers know exactly what they are buying.... One side is kampung housing area, one side is B/Raya dump site.. one side kampung squatter area... very unreal... the project is not too bad... nice... but somehow... how could such high quality condo sell at that area? anyway.. those bid stop stuff... those are stuff I have seen done... there's no one size fits all one... whatever works for one might not work for others... however, I for one, always believe in trying to selling higher... using a step up cut profits is a good way to profit profits while letting it run... you could use charts, use supports levels... you could use charts, use sell signals/patterns... you could use fair values but fair values at times can go way over valued.... so whatever fits, it fits. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 10:20 PM) I was actually interested in it. nice 1 boon That condo project at Jln Ipoh... quite unreal... it's priced so highly... because if you look at the surrounding area (360 degree)... it will blow your mind... there's no way it could sell... if the buyers know exactly what they are buying.... One side is kampung housing area, one side is B/Raya dump site.. one side kampung squatter area... very unreal... the project is not too bad... nice... but somehow... how could such high quality condo sell at that area? anyway.. those bid stop stuff... those are stuff I have seen done... there's no one size fits all one... whatever works for one might not work for others... however, I for one, always believe in trying to selling higher... using a step up cut profits is a good way to profit profits while letting it run... you could use charts, use supports levels... you could use charts, use sell signals/patterns... you could use fair values but fair values at times can go way over valued.... so whatever fits, it fits. charts~~~ need more training on that i would say. different people sees it different way too QUOTE(sub_noob @ Feb 20 2014, 10:20 PM) inari stock rose 100% within 6 months, still a gem for investor? if enter now should be very dangerous |
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That day someone was asking on WB.... i forgot who...
Today the mother share give dividend in specie 1:20 ratio. The WB ex price will be expected to be adjusted from 1.21 to 1.15, giving 6 sen FOC, when the dividend is ex on march. This price revision has not been announced yet but based on WB deed poll. At current price of 57.5, that 6 sen bonus is like a hidden 11% dividend. Not a buy call ah, but arbitrage warrant calculation only..... |
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Feb 20 2014, 10:50 PM) charts~~~ need more training on that i would say. different people sees it different way too In a high volume day, and the stock goes crashing... like POS... optimistic or perhaps people with vested interest might view the high volume... as BUYERS coming to support the stock. pessimistic/naysayers would see that as people rushing to sell the stock.. and funnily... in a way both are correct. for every buyer there is a seller. QUOTE(spring onion @ Feb 20 2014, 10:50 PM) inari stock rose 100% within 6 months, still a gem for investor? if enter now should be very dangerous In a broader sense, I fully agree with this advice...Which is why I mentioned caution to AhLoo on TAS. however... this is where understanding of numbers is so important... even for traders. Just like how it was mentioned more than 100 years ago in older trading books... understanding earning numbers is important.... the understanding of growth is most important.... for players for wants to win big.... growth is indeed a double edge knife... some growth cannot be sustained forever... there is a limit... however for some cases.... the proper understanding could yield utterly fantastic rewards.... ask yourself... why some get get a 5 bagger? a 6 bagger? a 7 bagger? (bagger = 100% gain. 5 bagger = 500% gain) why can they do it? why can't we? and most important... growth is indeed value. How can a company be considered of a great value when the company's profits is growing each year? Oops... too long jor... too much beer..... |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 11:08 PM) That day someone was asking on WB.... i forgot who... of course this not a buy call................... Today the mother share give dividend in specie 1:20 ratio. The WB ex price will be expected to be adjusted from 1.21 to 1.15, giving 6 sen FOC, when the dividend is ex on march. This price revision has not been announced yet but based on WB deed poll. At current price of 57.5, that 6 sen bonus is like a hidden 11% dividend. Not a buy call ah, but arbitrage warrant calculation only..... You are talking of Warren Buffett...... right? the one with 2 f's and 2 t's? |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 08:53 PM) hualalalala hualalalala hualalalala!!!! Trop very attractive? My uncle bought some at 1.80 and still suffering from hangover.No wonder past few days your stock held strong!http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...to-rm2565m.html] http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...to-rm2565m.html[/URL] |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 20 2014, 11:47 PM) Now lagi confused...All I see.... is alphabets... jumping over the fences.... got W la... got T la.... got B la... got L la.... aiyoooo now is the Y jumping over the fence..... I want my sheep back.... This post has been edited by Boon3: Feb 20 2014, 11:54 PM |
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PMFJI. Why do you all use all sorts of codes to hide the stock name being discussed? Isn't it easier and less confusing to just say clearly what it is so that others don't misunderstand or even worse go and buy the wrong stock mistakenly?
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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ Feb 21 2014, 12:06 AM) PMFJI. Why do you all use all sorts of codes to hide the stock name being discussed? Isn't it easier and less confusing to just say clearly what it is so that others don't misunderstand or even worse go and buy the wrong stock mistakenly? For example, what harm is there in saying 6742 or YTLPOWR. Just my comment. Hope Boon3 don't ban me.... Cos we like to talk wind a bit la.... Life is already too serious jor.... Hey how are you? |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 21 2014, 12:09 AM) Life is already serious, don't confuse it some more.... Over-working brain trying to decode messages here becoming more difficult than making profit in stock market.... Been reading your postings, must say thanks for sharing your thoughts and helping others here. |
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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ Feb 21 2014, 12:06 AM) PMFJI. Why do you all use all sorts of codes to hide the stock name being discussed? Isn't it easier and less confusing to just say clearly what it is so that others don't misunderstand or even worse go and buy the wrong stock mistakenly? No offence yah... For example, what harm is there in saying 6742 or YTLPOWR. Just my comment. Hope Boon3 don't ban me.... Coding the counters for self discussion, we are not into promoting counters. Sometimes we talk about useless stocks we dont necessary want to buy, later people accidently buy then blame us for the loss. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2014, 12:15 AM) No offence yah... This means cannot buy and then blame you?Coding the counters for self discussion, we are not into promoting counters. Sometimes we talk about useless stocks we dont necessary want to buy, later people accidently buy then blame us for the loss. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2014, 12:15 AM) No offence yah... I mean No offence too..... I thought you went to sleep. You sleep-posting? I think all better go sleep, else morning key in wrong prices.Coding the counters for self discussion, we are not into promoting counters. Sometimes we talk about useless stocks we dont necessary want to buy, later people accidently buy then blame us for the loss. |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:51 PM) I have not read the numbers in detail to understand why the 'sudden' improvement.... The report like so narrative. Is there a full version?better do own homework. They also very geng, other income straight 181 millions, compared to profit from unit sales of 2xx millions. I really wonder what is this unspecified other income. |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 21 2014, 12:27 AM) The report like so narrative. Is there a full version? They also very geng, other income straight 181 millions, compared to profit from unit sales of 2xx millions. I really wonder what is this unspecified other income. Go bursa website, look for Tropicana earning notes.... http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...yNoteQ4Fy13.pdf Page 6... I see.... Property investment and resort operations segment For the current quarter under review, the segment recorded revenue and profit before taxation of RM36.6 million and RM105.0million as compared to RM 29.8 million and RM24.1 million respectively in the corresponding quarter last year. Excluding the gain in fair value adjustment of RM92.8million and RM10.9million respectively in the current quarter and corresponding quarter last year , the profit before taxation was slightly lower at RM 12.2 million as compared to RM13.2million in the corresponding quarter last year, primarily caused by an increase in operating expenses... ( Good example why you cannot trust what your read) Read the next paragraph... and you see some fair value gains included in the earnings... Looks like the news report on the edge tarak chun at all..... |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 21 2014, 12:37 AM) Go bursa website, look for Tropicana earning notes.... http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...yNoteQ4Fy13.pdf Page 6... I see.... Property investment and resort operations segment For the current quarter under review, the segment recorded revenue and profit before taxation of RM36.6 million and RM105.0million as compared to RM 29.8 million and RM24.1 million respectively in the corresponding quarter last year. Excluding the gain in fair value adjustment of RM92.8million and RM10.9million respectively in the current quarter and corresponding quarter last year , the profit before taxation was slightly lower at RM 12.2 million as compared to RM13.2million in the corresponding quarter last year, primarily caused by an increase in operating expenses... ( Good example why you cannot trust what your read) Read the next paragraph... and you see some fair value gains included in the earnings... Looks like the news report on the edge tarak chun at all..... |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 21 2014, 12:48 AM) No wonder accountants get handsomely paid... Hehe... they just announced the earnings release to the press in a lump slump and not explaining the finer details. |
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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ Feb 21 2014, 12:19 AM) I mean No offence too..... I thought you went to sleep. You sleep-posting? I think all better go sleep, else morning key in wrong prices. maybe many times... gark talks heck a lot of wind with me (or is it the other way around? LOL!)... and we can talk and talk long long on stocks... but talk only. talk and no buy. and this is what forums should be... a place where we can discuss.... |
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watching skating la......
female skating some more..... ........ aiyoooo..... ends so ..... early...... |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 21 2014, 01:00 AM) maybe many times... gark talks heck a lot of wind with me (or is it the other way around? LOL!)... and we can talk and talk long long on stocks... but talk only. talk and no buy. and this is what forums should be... a place where we can discuss.... |
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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Feb 21 2014, 01:53 AM) hold until the day it starts to depreciate? Hahaha..... you think a stock can gain 300% without some form of depreciation ah? You look at Inari chart. Got go straight up in one line? It had many points where it depreciated a fair bit ..... How? You sell at every single point it depreciates a bit? |
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correct me if im wrong guys. but if a company issue bonus issue. it gives more liquidity to the company share and hence new investors will be more attracted to buy due to the lower ex price right?
but like one of the forummer here say.. usually bonus issue is used to cheat aunties aunties saying it's cheap when it is not for the existing share holder. because no impact? |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 21 2014, 07:46 AM) hold until the day it starts to depreciate? Hahaha..... you think a stock can gain 300% without some form of depreciation ah? You look at Inari chart. Got go straight up in one line? It had many points where it depreciated a fair bit ..... How? You sell at every single point it depreciates a bit? |
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Boon,
that vincent tan brother's company (@#%#&%@%@#) .... bought at RM2+ so few sen up also cannot cover |
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yeah last year pretty dumb...
this year will be smarter |
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Aiya made wrong guess on POS share price
AHB cantik cantik oh This post has been edited by yhtan: Feb 21 2014, 09:38 AM |
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POS cannot compare with ZHULIAN....
one private one protected |
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3107 gark punya?
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QUOTE(dewVP @ Feb 21 2014, 08:40 AM) correct me if im wrong guys. but if a company issue bonus issue. it gives more liquidity to the company share and hence new investors will be more attracted to buy due to the lower ex price right? Bonus issue have zero impact on existing shareholder... just like you have 2 pizza same 12" size one. but like one of the forummer here say.. usually bonus issue is used to cheat aunties aunties saying it's cheap when it is not for the existing share holder. because no impact? One cut 4 pieces, the other cut 8 pieces. So which pizza is bigger? All the lower price = better buy is a wrong type of mentality. |
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his one is the flying horse....
today he must be very happy.................... |
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Wah... Ah Bee holder this weekend can champagne dinner liao...
So lamby go mana for haute weekend dinner.. |
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Ini mari no impact from the good news.. hahahaha all priced in already... power of insider trading.
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infotec go go go !
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no champagne no dinner... still holding...
if sell also, use to cover back portfolio losses, no profit |
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Desperately waiting for HUBLINE to move
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LOL.. 6459 is doing the cha cha again... when will the music stops?
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Even IRIS too ... non stop naik ... Missed the boat
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@Boon, redtone above 70c oh
@gark, nice one on 6459. Qtr result soon, shud be nice. |
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Uli hive me 110 today!!!
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Posted on: Feb 19 2014, 10:57 AM
infotec anyone Forum: Stock Exchange · Post Preview: #66466113 · Replies: 5414 · Views: 133,282 |
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thank you sifu boon alert me in redtone yesterday...
i buy all 68 and sold 705 yesterday... made intraday gain... |
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thank you sifu boon alert me in redtone yesterday...
i buy all 68 and sold 705 yesterday... made intraday gain... |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2014, 09:48 AM) Bonus issue have zero impact on existing shareholder... just like you have 2 pizza same 12" size one. If price now RM5. The day before ex div RM8. Ex div price it will fall below RM2.5. With bonus split 1:1, u will lose out right? Big boss can explain to me with figures why won't lose?One cut 4 pieces, the other cut 8 pieces. So which pizza is bigger? All the lower price = better buy is a wrong type of mentality. I keep thinking if the price don't increase drastically before bonus split. When split, price drop lower u will lose. |
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QUOTE(dewVP @ Feb 21 2014, 10:18 AM) If price now RM5. The day before ex div RM8. Ex div price it will fall below RM2.5. With bonus split 1:1, u will lose out right? Big boss can explain to me with figures why won't lose? If the day before ex is RM 8 with 1:1 bonus then each share is worth RM 4. If now is RM 5 either the company continue to progress well OR speculation is going on. I keep thinking if the price don't increase drastically before bonus split. When split, price drop lower u will lose. It does not matter, if the company is good the price will go up sooner or later, if not it will come down. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2014, 10:21 AM) If the day before ex is RM 8 with 1:1 bonus then each share is worth RM 4. If now is RM 5 either the company continue to progress well OR speculation is going on. Right. Because if the bonus issue is 1:1, the price must increase above 100% (assuming the price drop 100% ex price) and u got 100% more share. Then the effect will be 0.It does not matter, if the company is good the price will go up sooner or later, if not it will come down. But if ur share increase 20%. U lose out 80%. Better don't split the share right. No guarantee bonus issue (increase liquidity) will attract more new investors right? Any stock u come across where after bonus split it loses a lot of money for existing shareholder? |
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QUOTE(dewVP @ Feb 21 2014, 10:44 AM) Right. Because if the bonus issue is 1:1, the price must increase above 100% (assuming the price drop 100% ex price) and u got 100% more share. Then the effect will be 0. No no... you got it wrong. Bonus issue does not affect the share price. It is the investors who affect the share price. There is no precedence when announce bonus issue the share price must double.But if ur share increase 20%. U lose out 80%. Better don't split the share right. No guarantee bonus issue (increase liquidity) will attract more new investors right? Any stock u come across where after bonus split it loses a lot of money for existing shareholder? It just half the EPS and you get twice as much shares, the TOTAL value of your shares is no different from before the bonus issue. Lets say a company got 100 million shares and earn 10 million per year. So the EPS is RM 0.1/share. Current share price is RM 1, which represents PE of 10x. Lets say it announce bonus issue of 1:1 After ex bonus issue, the company now got 200 million shares, and STILL earn 10 million per year. Now the EPS is RM 0.05 a share. How much should each share worth? This post has been edited by gark: Feb 21 2014, 10:52 AM |
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abg gark you still have century egg ah? Really taking so long to menetas.
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any stocks can buy for short-term?
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Feb 21 2014, 12:01 PM) At 325, I thought it was too high, then it went to 425. From there, I thought it was too high, it jumped to 525 ... siao There are times.....at 70 sen thought it was cheap, cos the stock fell from 110 it then went down to 50 sen.... some thought it was super cheap.... then it crashed to 30 sen....... |
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simpson likes to squeeze traders out of juice only explode up
its decline always very sharp and continuous |
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queue small amount 9059 @ RM3 see can get or not..
Caution : Put in freezer one. Not expecting good gain anytime soon... This post has been edited by gark: Feb 21 2014, 01:39 PM |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2014, 10:47 AM) No no... you got it wrong. Bonus issue does not affect the share price. It is the investors who affect the share price. There is no precedence when announce bonus issue the share price must double. Okay. I got what u mean now.It just half the EPS and you get twice as much shares, the TOTAL value of your shares is no different from before the bonus issue. Lets say a company got 100 million shares and earn 10 million per year. So the EPS is RM 0.1/share. Current share price is RM 1, which represents PE of 10x. Lets say it announce bonus issue of 1:1 After ex bonus issue, the company now got 200 million shares, and STILL earn 10 million per year. Now the EPS is RM 0.05 a share. How much should each share worth? So even after bonus share have been issued, there shouldn't be any price adjustment at all? If the answer is yes, my wealth would just have doubled. Because I got extra 100% share. |
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QUOTE(dewVP @ Feb 21 2014, 02:07 PM) Okay. I got what u mean now. If so easy to double wealth.. i also want. So even after bonus share have been issued, there shouldn't be any price adjustment at all? If the answer is yes, my wealth would just have doubled. Because I got extra 100% share. After ex, the price will be halved from last price on ex date. unfortunately in reality you don't get free lunch... |
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QUOTE(dewVP @ Feb 21 2014, 02:07 PM) Okay. I got what u mean now. No.So even after bonus share have been issued, there shouldn't be any price adjustment at all? If the answer is yes, my wealth would just have doubled. Because I got extra 100% share. Price will be adjusted per bonus rate. Total wealth ie total value of all your shares will be the same. You get more shares. Price is adjusted lower But when you add it all up, value of ur wealth will be the same. |
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Feb 21 2014, 12:01 PM) At 325, I thought it was too high, then it went to 425. From there, I thought it was too high, it jumped to 525 ... siao Don't go in IRIS now....might get trap. It might still go up, but does reward outweighs risk? Just let it run away...rather than being trapped inside. |
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QUOTE(dewVP @ Feb 21 2014, 02:07 PM) Okay. I got what u mean now. Well, put it this way. Bonus share has 0 impact on existing shareholders while it will become cheaper and more widely available for those who want to enter.So even after bonus share have been issued, there shouldn't be any price adjustment at all? If the answer is yes, my wealth would just have doubled. Because I got extra 100% share. |
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QUOTE(windskill @ Feb 21 2014, 02:15 PM) Don't go in IRIS now....might get trap. It might still go up, but does reward outweighs risk? Yea bro, it's far too high for my taste already. If go in now, at least need to up another ~2c to breakeven (with my funds available that is).Just let it run away...rather than being trapped inside. |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2014, 02:09 PM) If so easy to double wealth.. i also want. Yup. That is why if during ex price if it fail to rise above 100%. When it halved, u will lose out. U have 100% more share but your share price is below 100% of your original costAfter ex, the price will be halved from last price on ex date. unfortunately in reality you don't get free lunch... |
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For stocks that in strong uptrend and no pullback, should one chase? Example, stocks like Y, CBIP, Inari etc Thanks in advance This post has been edited by hehe86: Feb 21 2014, 04:28 PM |
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Feb 21 2014, 04:25 PM) Question please Example CBIP?For stocks that in strong uptrend and no pullback, should one chase? Example, stocks like Y, CBIP, Inari etc Thanks in advance what kind of stock is that? All uptrend stocks got somewhat of pullback one... Only thing, is usually, the pullback tak cukup. Well this where fundamentals helps. If you know that the stock could have a chance to triple its earnings from here ( based on earnings blah blah blah) and you are VERY sure of your homework... and you still very want the stock... then just chase it. if you are not willing or you are not convinced of the future prospect.... you better just take out the hanky.......................... and start crying.... the chicken has ran away...... |
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QUOTE(dewVP @ Feb 21 2014, 03:40 PM) Yup. That is why if during ex price if it fail to rise above 100%. When it halved, u will lose out. U have 100% more share but your share price is below 100% of your original cost The price is half and you have 2x as miuch share... why did you lose out?Share Price RM 1 x 1000 shares = RM 1000 Bonus issue 1:1, the share price is halved but number of shares double Now share price RM 0.5 x 2000 shares = RM 1000 How did you end up lose money? This post has been edited by gark: Feb 21 2014, 04:41 PM |
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 21 2014, 04:39 PM) Example CBIP? da balik da... kawanku what kind of stock is that? All uptrend stocks got somewhat of pullback one... Only thing, is usually, the pullback tak cukup. Well this where fundamentals helps. If you know that the stock could have a chance to triple its earnings from here ( based on earnings blah blah blah) and you are VERY sure of your homework... and you still very want the stock... then just chase it. if you are not willing or you are not convinced of the future prospect.... you better just take out the hanky.......................... and start crying.... the chicken has ran away...... |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2014, 04:41 PM) The price is half and you have 2x as miuch share... why did you lose out? yes ideal situation.Share Price RM 1 x 1000 shares = RM 1000 Bonus issue 1:1, the share price is halved but number of shares double Now share price RM 0.5 x 2000 shares = RM 1000 How did you end up lose money? scenario: u buy at 1.1. u hold 1000 share. cost is RM1,100. bonus issue 1:1 share price increase to 1.50. market value now is RM1,500. after bonus issue. u got 2000 share. share price drop 50% (75 cent) now your investment is worth RM0.75 x 2000 shares = RM1,500. question: yes. u are right. bonus issue does not affect share price. people determine share price. but wouldn't it better sometimes that don't want bonus issue. then maybe your share price will be higher? No, wait. U won't know.. Because bonus issue happen. So u won't know what's the situation if dont have bonus issue. but what if bonus issue, but the price remain unchanged. meaning buy 1.1. 1000 share. cost is RM1,100. bonus issue 1:1 share price now is RM1.15 only. rise 5 cent. after bonus issue u got 2000 units. IF SHARE PRICE DROP MORE THAN HALF? RM0.5 (for example) x 2000 units = RM1,000. u lose RM100 in the end.. ideally it should drop half right? but like u said, market determine the share price. |
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QUOTE(dewVP @ Feb 21 2014, 04:57 PM) yes ideal situation. I give up.. donno wat to say to you anymore... you are giving all kind of probability whether can or cannot happen one. On one hand share price rise before Bi the other hand share price drop after BI. All these are fantasy scenarios.scenario: u buy at 1.1. u hold 1000 share. cost is RM1,100. bonus issue 1:1 share price increase to 1.50. market value now is RM1,500. after bonus issue. u got 2000 share. share price drop 50% (75 cent) now your investment is worth RM0.75 x 2000 shares = RM1,500. question: yes. u are right. bonus issue does not affect share price. people determine share price. but wouldn't it better sometimes that don't want bonus issue. then maybe your share price will be higher? No, wait. U won't know.. Because bonus issue happen. So u won't know what's the situation if dont have bonus issue. but what if bonus issue, but the price remain unchanged. meaning buy 1.1. 1000 share. cost is RM1,100. bonus issue 1:1 share price now is RM1.15 only. rise 5 cent. after bonus issue u got 2000 units. IF SHARE PRICE DROP MORE THAN HALF? RM0.5 (for example) x 2000 units = RM1,000. u lose RM100 in the end.. ideally it should drop half right? but like u said, market determine the share price. Never ending story... do whatever you think will bring you the best profit. Good luck! This post has been edited by gark: Feb 21 2014, 05:05 PM |
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 21 2014, 05:00 PM) I give up.. donno wat to say to you anymore... you are giving all kind of probability whether can or cannot happen one. On one hand share price rise before Bi the other hand share price drop after BI. All these fantasy scenarios. That dewVP I layan his unit trust questions til I wanna blood pressure shoot up, now your turn! Never ending story... do whatever you think will bring you the best profit. Good luck! |
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