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post Feb 20 2014, 12:15 PM

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This thread is amazing with so many great advices. Gonna dive and look at all those comments before I'm able to comment. tongue.gif
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post Feb 27 2014, 12:56 PM

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I'm still finding the book "Reminiscence of a Stock Operator" recommended by boon3. biggrin.gif

Nope, have no luck in my place, anywhere to get it? biggrin.gif


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post Feb 27 2014, 11:47 PM

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Actually I'm fond with the concept of long term investment. Cold eye's advice does make sense for me, or is it?

My job disallows me to monitor it all the time. Hence, am I on the right path? Stop loss will be a good tool for me to protect my capital.

Or is it? Need enlightenment. laugh.gif
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post Feb 28 2014, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 28 2014, 06:15 PM)
Price is not based on past record...as it is irrelevant. How high is high and how low is low enough?

It is based on current and expected financial performance. Try looking into the financial performance and see if the current price is fair or not.

Government related company do not necessary earn money or grow. look at MAS which is very government controlled losing 1.2 billion a year and the share price is on a dive.

Also having a big project does not means they will earn lots of money. Gamuda is currently doing the multi billion electricifed double track trainline, so where has it got them?

It's ok, we can learn together.  wink.gif
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This is the thing that always baffles me. How do I know whether the price of the stock is fairly priced? I've been reading financial reports and the company's details on projects and visions. Yet, I do not know how to actually judge them.

I'm reading the annual reports, page by page. Taking down notes, viewing past performances. Is that enough? In the mean time, I'm still looking for the books that you and boon3 recommended.

The things that I'm doing now,

Jotting down the price of stocks everyday
Read their annual reports
Go through their websites
Read books regarding investing in stocks
Read local newspapers (advertising stocks like what boon3 said)
Do bits of paper trading

Therefore, is that enough? sweat.gif
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post Mar 1 2014, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 1 2014, 11:26 AM)
Tipsy ya? tongue.gif
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post Mar 1 2014, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 1 2014, 01:49 PM)
now only ask tipsy ....

nonstop remind since last 2weeks...  cry.gif
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Missed a lot because the thread is moving so fast and I'm so busy. laugh.gif

But it does look good and you're very confident wo. tongue.gif
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post Mar 2 2014, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Mar 1 2014, 05:50 PM)
confident or not... result speaks itself....

must thank you to my Choy San Yeh dream...  biggrin.gif
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Will go to study the company and see how's it fundamentally standing. Maybe like you said, another gold chicken? tongue.gif
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post Mar 4 2014, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 4 2014, 08:17 PM)
Hello no problem la.
Today got free time so just talk 3 talk 4 share some opinion only.
Hope it can help you choose a better stock.

There's actually a little more stuff you need to check.
Like valuation etc etc..
And then sector comparison etc...

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Pretty boring without shark?
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I am not sure about you but most exciting part is JUST making money.
Shark not important to me.
If it boring let it boring.
Most important is making money hehe...
I love making money.
You no like meh?

Ask you this.
You buy this stock this at 2.00
Two years later it is at 7.00
It ups very slowwwwwwwly.
Very boring.

You sure you won't like such boring stocks?

LOL!

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Keeping stocks long term is really important. tongue.gif but sometimes, cannot tahan too and will go to check. tongue.gif

Anyone has reminiscence of a stock operator and the intelligent investor? Wanna sell it to me after absorbing all the essence? tongue.gif
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post Mar 4 2014, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:36 PM)
Aiyooo... those 2 stocks... just saying only.

Hehe... I won;t even buy leh.... tongue.gif

CPO rising ah? ..... hmmm.... hehe laugh.gif

Even for a trading perspective... the stock you just cut.... looks kind ok ....
but like I said...
market is most likely going to be 'news driven'...
and I do think the next few days would be a bit topsy turvy... sweat.gif
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That's exactly what I thought. Many emotional buyings and sellings. I read through, made my own decisions, then gonna keep it till I get what i want. News driven environment is indeed interesting to be watched with pop corn. tongue.gif

The very important fact for me - protecting my capital and I wouldn't want to lose my capital. Hence, I'm investing on myself first. Keep reading and filling things up in my head.

Not to say that short term investing is not good but I merely have no time for that. 'keeping going in and out, tired leh'

That's why I'm more towards fundamental and the value of the company rather than sticking my eyes on the charts and numbers. Pening la. laugh.gif green green red red green. Not good for eye sight. biggrin.gif

Tipsy? No doubt, sometimes it does look pretty, you know, tasty. tongue.gif
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post Mar 7 2014, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 7 2014, 11:31 AM)
Crimea crisis... oil goes up...

Oil goes up... cpo goes up...

Cpo goes up... plantation goes up...

Go russia go  tongue.gif
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Dont. i want peace more than money. tongue.gif

Done reading some annual reports and keep tracking the company for awhile, finally bought 10 lots and wished that I bought more. laugh.gif


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post Mar 7 2014, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 7 2014, 11:39 AM)
10 lots of what? tongue.gif
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Dont want to tell you, later you tease me. tongue.gif Everything seems ok and the products are sustainable. So, hope then. tongue.gif
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post Mar 7 2014, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ Mar 7 2014, 12:06 PM)
You can share. Sometimes someone may give input that we may not have thought of. Then we can re-evaluate if necessary. Or some input from others may make our decision even stronger.
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just fooling with him. tongue.gif 10 lots of QL (7084), runs by brothers with agro-related products. Livestocks, plantations and so.

Cash flow seems ok too and gonna keep it for a really long time. Not going to cash it out. Bought that after they gave bonus issue. Price adjusted to 2.92 and did queue for 2.85, now 3.23. sweat.gif

So, how how? sweat.gif I do have confidence and gonna hold it till no where. brows.gif
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post Mar 7 2014, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 7 2014, 12:25 PM)
Aiyoyo.. Take photo to remind you of mistake enough jor..
After that....sell lor. tongue.gif
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yalo, and frame it. tongue.gif
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post Mar 7 2014, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 7 2014, 12:38 PM)
That is goood fundamental stock. In my watchlist. A bit expensive pe wise though....
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I'm still studying a few more companies and hopefully can review all the 1000+ listed companies.

Now, it seems that I'm looking a particular sand on the beach. laugh.gif


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post Mar 7 2014, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 7 2014, 04:24 PM)
Not meant to action... it is just that when you put so much time for stock selection, so much time monitoring it, and time spend buying + brokerage, you want to earn back a fair amount. Earning 2 figures, in the end your broker might makes more than you, but IF you do it frequently enough you might earn more than the person who gets the 4 figures for each sale. Because for some of them, those four figures they need to wait a few years to bear fruit.

Some people like to simply shoot machine guns and get many small targets and each target contributes a bit. Other person like to take their time, study their prey, aim properly with elephant gun, take one shot and take down the elephant.

I am just like the other person. laugh.gif

There is no right or wrong way, each of them has thier risk and reward, just which road you choose to play your cards...  wink.gif
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I like to shoot elephant too. Please teach me how to shoot elephant, much better if there's any mammoth to be taken down. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 7 2014, 04:44 PM)
Almost same as cscenic.. go do your homework...

In the mean time go buy some reit...  whistling.gif
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Bazooka. tongue.gif You must be very tim, gark gor. brows.gif

Reit? tongue.gif Tipsy? laugh.gif
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post Mar 7 2014, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Mar 7 2014, 04:44 PM)
Gark loves furniture stock.

Can look inside glove stock actually. None of the glove company has yet to breach into china market.. The first to do so will have a major contribution to their share price.
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Supermx is said to be undervalued. tongue.gif Got some too, until the news of fire and less beautiful qt report scared everyone away. tongue.gif Gonna hold and monitor. cool2.gif

or not? laugh.gif
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post Mar 7 2014, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 7 2014, 04:57 PM)
No i am not sifu...

Boon is the REAL sifu... tongue.gif
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you two are la. tongue.gif the wind that you guys talk, i understand nothing. tongue.gif
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post Mar 7 2014, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 7 2014, 08:26 PM)
Rain also envy meh?.. just 2 weeks ago, heavy rain,  the main road flooded.. 30 cm of water.  sad.gif

Anyway I got used to rain/dry season... where i am, rain 6 months non stop then not a single drop for the next 6 months... the landscape looks like africa.  laugh.gif
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I'm going to rain dance now. So freaking hot over here. rclxub.gif

btw, this thread is moving fast ehh. laugh.gif
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post Mar 10 2014, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 10 2014, 12:38 PM)
That's call timing the market... not always successful strategy.

Sometime waiting and waiting for a crash and it might not materialize, in the mean time losing all those opportunities.
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Getting some, keeping some, waiting the time to come and we shopping. laugh.gif

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