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post Feb 20 2014, 09:51 AM

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Boon... Armada's result is not good, but the price is steady... haha this one super coma company. sweat.gif

CB continue Ah boon golden words trend.. thumbup.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 09:52 AM)
Lobster dinner on you also?  drool.gif
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Your Dsonic untung can belanja 1 kampung... whistling.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 09:52 AM)
Boon3

Would you have a clue on determining minimum share price? say if the share will be listing 2 rights for every 1 share, and 2 free warrants for every 3 rights?

any formula to share? biggrin.gif
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shares price after ex = Share price now x 1/2 x 1.5/2 tongue.gif

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post Feb 20 2014, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 09:55 AM)
sweat.gif .... sweat.gif ..... ask wrong fella jor ..... hohoho..... tongue.gif
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Nanti balik KL we go for kopi session.. i spend. thumbup.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Feb 20 2014, 09:58 AM)
listener also want.
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No problem... tongue.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 09:59 AM)
huhu!

Ah Lamb need to belanja you kopi liao!!!  biggrin.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:05 AM)
i'm thinking this could be a very good way of determining how much a share price will be PUSHED UP before listing of rights i.e. rights issue play. if can get the formula right..  brows.gif

for example:

current share price is 0.19
proposed rights issue price 0.20
2 rights for every 1 share
2 free warrants for every 3 rights

the surety of the company needing to push up share price beyond 0.20 is 100% correct?
coz the rights price is already priced at 0.20 vs current price of 0.19 only

then now it leaves calculating how much the range could be i.e. minimum price of the share being pushed up to make the whole rights/warrants listing work and to get people to actually subscribe.

gark, your formula still workable for this scenario then?
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Oh the formula have not include the rights price. if got rights price add back 20 cent x 2 into the formula.

Who in the right mind will buy rights without at least 20% discount... unless the warrant conversion price is very cheap.

If you can give all the prices, i can work out theory price... wink.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 10:06 AM)
hehe.... 8 sen to 2. whistling.gif

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post Feb 20 2014, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 10:09 AM)
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as if you no bawah standing. whistling.gif

what's almost 2?
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In my portfolio only inimari... rclxms.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:09 AM)
it's there.. i copy here again *kancheong already*

current share price is 0.19
proposed rights issue price 0.20
2 rights for every 1 share
2 free warrants for every 3 rights
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warrant ex price, how long to expiry? tongue.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:15 AM)
the counter only has mother. no warrant

proposed renounceable rights issue of up to 106,718,796 new ordinary shares of RM0.20 each on the basis of two (2) Rights Shares for every one (1) existing share together with up to 71,145,864 free detachable new warrants on the basis of two (2) New Warrants for every three (3) Rights Shares subscribed by the entitled shareholders

thats all tongue.gif
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ahem..ahem the new warrant to be issued... tongue.gif

All warrant have ex price and expiry.. you let me know which counter better tongue.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:17 AM)
hahahah... its ah bee biggrin.gif
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Then how come you say current price 0.19? it;s 27.5 already leh...

wrong info... tongue.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:21 AM)
correct info la... BEFORE the spike  biggrin.gif

need to calculate before the spike....

proposed rights was last year
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No no.. calculation is done on the ex date not when it is proposed. tongue.gif

Also i check AhB already previously got WA issued 2004/2014....

Wah hard to calculate wor...
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:27 AM

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Aiya... you too kan cheong alreadt...

Still proposal only... the rights share price not determined yet and the warrant conversion price also not determined yet... tongue.gif

The illustrative price of 0.20 is because cannot rights issue below the par value of AhB .. which is 0.20

Cannot count. Wait for further news tongue.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Feb 20 2014, 10:33 AM)
not only for this la...

foolproof methodology for all future shares if can get it right  biggrin.gif
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No fool proof one.. no matter how good you calculate, depend on the stock sentiment one lar....

Last time i got rights/warrant issue... even though already pre-calculated...

Some got make big money (WCT)

Some broke even... or earn little bit...

Some kelong after rights/warrant issue... sweat.gif

For warrant price I use black-scholes formula to calculate fair value...

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post Feb 20 2014, 10:45 AM

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Boon...

I am thinking to use trailing stop loss for stock which has exceeded my fair value...

Those stock which i want to sell due to FA but still persistently going up, so i let it go on but want to protect my profits.

5% trailing stop loss ok boh? sweat.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Feb 20 2014, 10:49 AM)
my stop loss is throw back same price or 1bid cut...

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Wah so wide your stop loss... sweat.gif

So my stop loss should be my FV then... hmm.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Feb 20 2014, 10:59 AM)
what is FV ah?
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fair value...or TP

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post Feb 20 2014, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Feb 20 2014, 10:56 AM)
Noob question. How you judge the FV?
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This one you gotta determine yourself, everyone use different method..
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post Feb 20 2014, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:04 AM)
It's a great idea.

Have you ever read How To Make Money in Stocks?

There's two chapters in the book that should help you greatly.

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Great info.. will take time to read and digest.. trying to learn so TA to complement FA.. laugh.gif

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