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H2D
post Mar 14 2014, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(zeliustitan @ Mar 14 2014, 05:01 PM)
KL sky is clear now~~
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Clear?
Which area u lookin at?
I can't see twin towers n smog is éwhere still...
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post Mar 14 2014, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(zeliustitan @ Mar 14 2014, 04:11 PM)
if time permits..
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Only haze will stop me. tongue.gif
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post Mar 14 2014, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Mar 14 2014, 05:23 PM)
Clear?
Which area u lookin at?
I can't see twin towers n smog is éwhere still...
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Wait till you see Port Klang. Really scary. cry.gif
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post Mar 14 2014, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Mar 14 2014, 05:23 PM)
Clear?
Which area u lookin at?
I can't see twin towers n smog is éwhere still...
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jln tun razak view from Celcom was crystal clear for 1 hour .. out of nowhere the haze came back..
zeliustitan
post Mar 14 2014, 06:23 PM

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Haze back again... sad..
Halia
post Mar 14 2014, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(sepat @ Mar 14 2014, 12:51 PM)
i would take your advice dont worry seems you know every single things about bicycle..  smile.gif but for now i would stick to standard components and planning to upgrade later after myself  experience long ride and how the bike speed perform against my  cadence..  nod.gif  your offer will be keep in view but rest assured i will keep in touch with you when i am ready for the next upgrade..  rolleyes.gif
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To chip in my opinion on gear upgrading. I assumed the no.1 reason of upgrading from 8/9 speed to 21++ speeds is to help climbing. I am in the opinion that such thinking/rationale may not necessary 'sound'. The OEM 8/9 speed in most cases are sufficient for normal climbing fits for what the original intention of the bike is for. Sure, if one to take his/her folding bike to Genting and the like, he/she may finds 8/9 speed is insufficient. The question is how likely are you going to ride on Genting-like road? Even you do so (like more of the advanced cyclists), more gearing can only helps you to certain level, your up right seating geometric is 'hindering' your climbing efficiency, you will still find yourself struggling. If your are not struggling, it is likely that the climb is not steep enough and the regular 8/9 speed with reasonable fitness would just do the job fine (if you are not reasonably fit you probably won't attempted to steep climb type of ride). In the 'normal' outing rides, even there are some parts that are steep, it usually just a short climb, you can just tahan a bit and ride over it.

In most of the situation, 8/9 speed can climbs but what is lacking is the flat road speed. Therefore, instead of looking at increasing more speed, it make sense to have a bigger crank set, like 52T for the flat road speed. Frankly, easily 80-90% of the ride are on flat road.

Make sense?
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post Mar 14 2014, 07:01 PM

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Guys. Anyone know price for dahon vector p8?

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post Mar 14 2014, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(Halia @ Mar 14 2014, 06:34 PM)
To chip in my opinion on gear upgrading.  I assumed the no.1 reason of upgrading from 8/9 speed to 21++ speeds is to help climbing.  I am in the opinion that such thinking/rationale may not necessary 'sound'.  The OEM 8/9 speed in most cases are sufficient for normal climbing fits for what the original intention of the bike is for.  Sure, if one to take his/her folding bike to Genting and the like, he/she may finds 8/9 speed is insufficient.  The question is how likely are you going to ride on Genting-like road?  Even you do so (like more of the advanced cyclists), more gearing can only helps you to certain level, your up right seating geometric is 'hindering' your climbing efficiency, you will still find yourself struggling. If your are not struggling, it is likely that the climb is not steep enough and the regular 8/9 speed with reasonable fitness would just do the job fine (if you are not reasonably fit you probably won't attempted to steep climb type of ride).  In the 'normal' outing rides, even there are some parts that are steep, it usually just a short climb, you can just tahan a bit and ride over it.

In most of the situation, 8/9 speed can climbs but what is lacking is the flat road speed.  Therefore, instead of looking at increasing more speed, it make sense to have a bigger crank set, like 52T for the flat road speed.  Frankly, easily 80-90% of the ride are on flat road.

Make sense?
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i get the idea.. i thought that as well since my ride most of the time will be on flat road .. having said that .. speed is something i need to consider too.. well.. i am quite new in this hobby but appreciate your explaining then ..

anyway upgrading crank set will increase the speed to how many % from the current anyway? just upgrade the crank and the rest maintain in oem condition will do? correct me..

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post Mar 14 2014, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(sepat @ Mar 14 2014, 07:12 PM)
i get the idea..  i thought that as well since my ride most of the time will be on flat road .. having said that .. speed is something i need to consider too.. well.. i am quite new in this hobby but appreciate your explaining then ..

anyway upgrading crank set  will increase the speed to how many % from the current anyway? just upgrade the crank  and the rest maintain in oem condition will do? correct me..

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if I am not mistaking.. you are riding a Dahon Vigor P9..
the front crank is already 52T..
if you want more speed.. you can change the rear gear set to road..
then come again.. why do you need to cycle sooo fast..
as we al know.. foldies are meant to makan..makan..and jalan..jalan..
as for fitness sake.. like me..
I choose single speed so that I can cycle more faster if I need speed..this will make my heart pump faster..
if I need to climb (only on moderate slope ) I just have to train harder so that I dun have to push my bike and been tease by my friends..
if I really need speed.. I will ride my MTB with sora cassette..
during my school days..me and my friends used to cycle round Penang Island with only 12speed racer.. for me if I can do it then..I think I still can do it if I train hard..
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post Mar 14 2014, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(sepat @ Mar 10 2014, 11:21 PM)
Hi jeisern
The group members are all from setia alam? Which route do you go normally?
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Its a mix of foldies, mtbs, roadies and mix/match, ride from Setia Alam Sen Aik Shop up to KFC hill to Tesco, go downhill, turn back out Impian 6, go to the park, make a left to Setia City Mall, go across, reach school Pin Hwa, go up a Tangki, come back go back out and ride through Tai Pan to Eco and then to Tenby.

From Tenby go back to Setia Damain Hill, then back to Sen Aik.


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post Mar 14 2014, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(myak9 @ Mar 14 2014, 07:40 PM)
if I am not mistaking.. you are riding a Dahon Vigor P9..
the front crank is already 52T..
if you want more speed.. you can change the rear gear set to road..
then come again.. why do you need to cycle sooo fast..
as we al know.. foldies are meant to makan..makan..and jalan..jalan..
as for fitness sake.. like me..
I choose single speed so that I can cycle more faster if I need speed..this will make my heart pump faster..
if I need to climb (only on moderate slope ) I just have to train harder so that I dun have to push my bike and been tease by my friends..
if I really need speed.. I will ride my MTB with sora cassette..
during my school days..me and my friends used to cycle round Penang Island with only 12speed racer.. for me if I can do it then..I think I still can do it if I train hard..
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When i decided to go for folding bike my intention was to have something compact, easier to transport and of course fun of riding it. As of now yes i really enjoy riding this bike and eager to explore what sort of enhancement this bike can go. Looking at its size i know it cannot par with mtb or road bike but i really want to explore the potential of this bike can deliver. It is like turbo car ..the torque and hp will depend on the turbine and other mechanical parts which help to achieved the desired HP ... nod.gif But sometimes if the setup is not engage accordingly the car with hundred ponnies also surprisingly kena tapau with small cubics. Maybe i am too ambitious since this is my first bicycle since i was in primary but your input will always welcome for me to analyse and execute thumbup.gif
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post Mar 14 2014, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(jeisern @ Mar 14 2014, 07:51 PM)
Its a mix of foldies, mtbs, roadies and mix/match, ride from Setia Alam Sen Aik Shop up to KFC hill to Tesco, go downhill, turn back out Impian 6, go to the park, make a left to Setia City Mall, go across, reach school Pin Hwa, go up a Tangki, come back go back out and ride through Tai Pan to Eco and then to Tenby.

From Tenby go back to Setia Damain Hill, then back to Sen Aik.
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Haha i really not that familiar with setia alam except for the mall rclxm9.gif but if given the right time would to take part with your group smile.gif
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post Mar 15 2014, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(sepat @ Mar 14 2014, 10:52 PM)
When i decided to go for folding bike my intention was to have something compact, easier to transport and of course fun of riding it. As of now yes i really enjoy riding this bike and eager to explore what sort of enhancement this bike can go. Looking at its size i know it cannot par with mtb or road bike  but i really want to explore the potential of this bike can deliver. It is like turbo car ..the torque and hp will depend on the turbine and other mechanical parts which help to achieved the desired HP ...  nod.gif     But sometimes if the setup  is not engage accordingly the car with hundred ponnies also surprisingly kena tapau with small cubics. Maybe i am too ambitious since this is my first bicycle since i was in primary but your input will always welcome for me to analyse and execute  thumbup.gif
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hahaha.. rclxms.gif i like that way u think but let's not get too carried away here.bicycle burns on fat not fuel. hence to truly unleash your ride's potential really depends more on your engine as the rider.
i believe it will be more satisfying if u can tapau those roadies or mtbs on the road using your existing setup. stock vigor p9 is already a very nice package and target bike for some of us here. thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by ipodunlimited: Mar 15 2014, 10:41 AM
dannygeni
post Mar 15 2014, 10:14 AM

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satisfied after this morning ride!!.. few days stop because of haze.

anyone knows where got sell schwalbe durano tyres or similar?

This post has been edited by dannygeni: Mar 15 2014, 10:14 AM
naaka
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Hi. I'm naaka. Does any group of folding in shah alam? Still new with this bicycle. Hope we can share and learn. Tq
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post Mar 15 2014, 08:04 PM

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riding at putra jaya late morning today with wife .. the sky is blue so nice

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post Mar 15 2014, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(skidd @ Mar 15 2014, 08:04 PM)
riding at putra jaya late morning today with wife .. the sky is blue so nice

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nice view..
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post Mar 15 2014, 11:50 PM

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Hi naka, which part of shah alam u are from?
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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Mar 15 2014, 11:50 PM)
Hi naka, which part of shah alam u are from?
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I'm from sek 27.

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post Mar 16 2014, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(naaka @ Mar 16 2014, 12:05 AM)
I'm from sek 27.
Ah, no knowledge about group from that side but if u frequent gwcycle in kemuning perhaps u can get some info what groups are available there.

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