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SportyHandling
post Jan 8 2015, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(F1meteor @ Jan 8 2015, 01:58 PM)
Argh! Spent 120k on a car but not as smooth as my previous city.
I was hoping for a better car.
Obviously FoFo is superior in every aspect comparing with my previous ride, just that I really don't like the un-smoothness of FoFo.

I am satisfied with FoFo, already know all these issues before I made my purchase, but I can still whine right laugh.gif

Too much of negativity, time for some positive feedback
1. Whoever said the ford is small, it's not true. I can fetch 5 adults comfortably.
2. Very stable at high speed, tested up to 160km/h laugh.gif
3. Nice pick up speed. Well, Golf TSI is better. HAHAHA
4. No give face to Myvi 1.5 extreme anymore. Previously they always cucuk me when I'm in my City.
5. Very good FC at highway cruising. Early morning rush was terrible tongue.gif
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Yes, despite all the negativity, the car has its own sets of strength. The Focus is surely a joy to drive at highway speeds (or high speeds). Not only the acceleration is superb (partly due to the high horsepower for a normal 2.0-litre vehicle), the handling and driving dynamics are good too for a family sedan.

After more than a decade of driving, the Focus is the first car I have driven that had breached 200km/h without breaking a sweat. Tested up to 210km/h and didn't push the car any further as my initial plan was just to touch 200km/h. The acceleration power of the Focus is quite amazing for a naturally-aspirated engine.

I have driven the previous-generation City. The handling and steering feel of the City compares terribly with the Focus. There is a severe lack of feel with the steering of the City as it felt very loose compared to the precise and sharp steering of the Focus. I have posted a thread several months ago on this. When on a bend with the Honda City, I nearly hit a truck that is on the next lane as I could not get accustomed to the steering of the City.
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post Jan 8 2015, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(F1meteor @ Jan 8 2015, 01:58 PM)
Argh! Spent 120k on a car but not as smooth as my previous city.
I was hoping for a better car.
Obviously FoFo is superior in every aspect comparing with my previous ride, just that I really don't like the un-smoothness of FoFo.

I am satisfied with FoFo, already know all these issues before I made my purchase, but I can still whine right laugh.gif

Too much of negativity, time for some positive feedback
1. Whoever said the ford is small, it's not true. I can fetch 5 adults comfortably.
2. Very stable at high speed, tested up to 160km/h laugh.gif
3. Nice pick up speed. Well, Golf TSI is better. HAHAHA
4. No give face to Myvi 1.5 extreme anymore. Previously they always cucuk me when I'm in my City.
5. Very good FC at highway cruising. Early morning rush was terrible tongue.gif
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Modified Myvi Turbo is fast and has higher top speed, but is not stable at high speed cruising. Unlike Focus which is stable even at 200km/h.

Bro, you tested up to 160km/h only? That is not really considered as "high speed". Nonetheless, even at 160km/h you can feel a certain solidity and sturdiness in the Focus.
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post Jan 8 2015, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 8 2015, 08:37 AM)
My car is 1 year 4 months old, so there is another 3 year 8 months left in the warranty for something to fail(touch wood).
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Ummm.... according to the Ford Warranty page, the warranty excludes (among other things):

Wear and tear items (e.g. brake pad, clutch and wiper blades)

... so looks like you only have 1 year 8 months!!

....much like me...... cry.gif
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post Jan 9 2015, 07:26 AM

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Agreed with all the owner here that FoFo is very stable at high speed and the traction into, during and exit of high speed corner is amazing. When you start to push it in high speed corner thinking it will slip and loose control? it still grip and you start to push it further until I myself chicken out coz I dunno really when it will loose grip lol...

High speed cruising is stable and without you knowing it, you already kena saman easily coz the car easily past 120 km/h and when you look at it you start to wonder if the speedometer is wrong or not lol...

So far so good with the car other than the rattling sound of the rear left when go through bump or when the audio heavy bass kicked in... tried to find the culprit but to no avail...

another annoying thing is high speed braking from 140 km/h onwards will have mild vibration on steering or suspension not too sure... you guys had this issue?
SportyHandling
post Jan 9 2015, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ Jan 8 2015, 06:13 PM)
Modified Myvi Turbo is fast and has higher top speed, but is not stable at high speed cruising. Unlike Focus which is stable even at 200km/h.

Bro, you tested up to 160km/h only? That is not really considered as "high speed". Nonetheless, even at 160km/h you can feel a certain solidity and sturdiness in the Focus.
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I have had the privilege to be on the wheels of the Perodua Myvi for just one(1) day. That was enough for me to conclude, in my view, that the car is not stable at speeds of above 100km/h. Of course we see a lot of speeding Myvis on the roads probably doing 130km/h or higher. I felt unsafe in the Myvi just after the needle when past 100km/h as the car started to wobble a bit due to the soft bouncy suspension, and the steering wheel felt loose. ALthough the car was traveling on a straight line, I can feel the steering wheel moving left and right instead of staying straight. The feeling of the loose steering is not good! I have to hold the steering real tight so as the vehicle will travel on a straight line.

Due to the looseness of the steering and unstable ride of the Myvi at above 100km/h, I had stuck with 80km/h throughout the journey on the 90km/h-speed limited highway.

In short, the Focus is more stable at >160km/h than the Myvi at 100km/h. I felt a lot safer driving the Focus at high speed than the Myvi at moderate speed. I agree that there is a sense of security in the Focus due to the stability of the car.
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post Jan 9 2015, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(lowkl @ Jan 8 2015, 06:55 PM)
Ummm.... according to the Ford Warranty page, the warranty excludes (among other things):

Wear and tear items (e.g. brake pad, clutch and wiper blades)

... so looks like you only have 1 year 8 months!!

....much like me...... cry.gif
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Looks like Sime Darby may have changed the warranty policy? One of my colleagues owns the Ford Focus TDCI (his warranty is 3 years instead of 5 years). His worn out wiper blades were replaced FOC by Sime Darby just before the warranty expires. As a matter of fact he told me that it was the service guy that advised him to utilise the warranty and change the wiper blades just before the car reaches 3 years.

When I mentioned about something fails, I was thinking along the lines of more critical components such as the clutch pack, transmission, steering wheel parts etc. Something mechanical. Not too sure about the "Clutch" being wear and tear. My understanding is the defective (leaking) clutch pack will cause the car to exhibit serious jerking. If that is the case, then they should cover that under warranty as serious jerk during acceleration isn't something that is normal.

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Jan 9 2015, 11:41 AM
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post Jan 9 2015, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(-ahtiang- @ Jan 9 2015, 07:26 AM)
Agreed with all the owner here that FoFo is very stable at high speed and the traction into, during and exit of high speed corner is amazing. When you start to push it in high speed corner thinking it will slip and loose control? it still grip and you start to push it further until I myself chicken out coz I dunno really when it will loose grip lol...

High speed cruising is stable and without you knowing it, you already kena saman easily coz the car easily past 120 km/h and when you look at it you start to wonder if the speedometer is wrong or not lol...

So far so good with the car other than the rattling sound of the rear left when go through bump or when the audio heavy bass kicked in... tried to find the culprit but to no avail...

another annoying thing is high speed braking from 140 km/h onwards will have mild vibration on steering or suspension not too sure... you guys had this issue?
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Hi ahtiang I've same issue with u. But so far no transmission issue as mentioned by others. Hopefully i'll be free of that. Too early to say tho since my milage only reach 5k.

This post has been edited by Mrx_Rf: Jan 9 2015, 01:01 PM
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post Jan 9 2015, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(lowkl @ Jan 8 2015, 06:55 PM)
Ummm.... according to the Ford Warranty page, the warranty excludes (among other things):

Wear and tear items (e.g. brake pad, clutch and wiper blades)

... so looks like you only have 1 year 8 months!!

....much like me...... cry.gif
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The clutch pack is warrantied for 5 years.

Some early Fiesta owners who only had 3 years warranty when they bought the car, recently had their gearbox warranty extended to 5 years to address complaints about the clutch.

No worries about that.
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post Jan 9 2015, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(F1meteor @ Jan 8 2015, 01:58 PM)
Argh! Spent 120k on a car but not as smooth as my previous city.
I was hoping for a better car.
Obviously FoFo is superior in every aspect comparing with my previous ride, just that I really don't like the un-smoothness of FoFo.

I am satisfied with FoFo, already know all these issues before I made my purchase, but I can still whine right laugh.gif

Too much of negativity, time for some positive feedback
1. Whoever said the ford is small, it's not true. I can fetch 5 adults comfortably.
2. Very stable at high speed, tested up to 160km/h laugh.gif
3. Nice pick up speed. Well, Golf TSI is better. HAHAHA
4. No give face to Myvi 1.5 extreme anymore. Previously they always cucuk me when I'm in my City.
5. Very good FC at highway cruising. Early morning rush was terrible tongue.gif
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Well, this is something I've found through the internet… Too close to call and you won't be disappointed to own either one.. rclxms.gif thumbup.gif . http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars...volkswagen-golf
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post Jan 10 2015, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(Mrx_Rf @ Jan 9 2015, 12:59 PM)
Hi ahtiang I've same issue with u. But so far no transmission issue as mentioned by others. Hopefully i'll be free of that. Too early to say tho since my milage only reach 5k.
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Yup, me neither on the transmission nor jerking at low speed... :fingers cross: but mine yet to reach 4K mileage lol...
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post Jan 10 2015, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 8 2015, 08:37 AM)
Thanks for the update. 3 months waiting period for the clutch pack. Looks like quite a number of cars are going through this clutch pack replacement due to the jerking or oil leakage problem. It is either the clutch pack is defective(which only certain batches are affected), or it is a design flaw in the clutch pack in that all clutch packs in the current Focus are defective. Yikes!

My car is 1 year 4 months old, so there is another 3 year 8 months left in the warranty for something to fail(touch wood).

I wonder if all Focus models are affected by this clutch pack (severe jerking and leakage) issue? May I ask how old is your car? So far I have read on this forum that 3 persons have had the clutch pack on their Focus replaced. Nairud is one if I"m not mistaken.
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Mine is 1 year 3 mths. They'll check your reading using the data logger software. If it's lesser than certain reading, the conclusion is normal. There's a fiesta replacing clutch kit when i was there. I asked the technician attending the fiesta n he said the a lot show symptom of jerking n vibration. The queue at the service centre is also longer because of extended warranty for fiesta. U hv to leave the car for a few days for clutch replacement

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post Jan 11 2015, 09:04 AM

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Hey guys, time for some whining.

But before I do, let's just say that i am still a happy owner of a Ford Focus S+ '13.
Nevertheless, i am very unsatisfied with the after sales service of Sime Darby. Especially their branch in PJ.
I sent in my car on Thursday for a "Check Engine Light". The car is still sitting in their workshop as i am writing this. Guess what? They have yet to start checking on the car.

I had to call them on Friday evening and Saturday morning just so that i can have some updates.
They promised to call me back on Friday evening itself and no calls was return.
They promised to call me back on Saturday itself and no calls was return.

Sime Darby is really screwing us all up!!! I understand a car will have some minor issues/hiccups once a while. Any other brand is the same. But the after sales service is what set different companies apart. I sent my wife's Toyota to their SC and have never received such low quality service at all. I own a Perodua, Proton and Honda previously and never once I was left disgusted by their respective service level.

Sighs ... bad choice of buying a Ford? I don't know ... I still like how a Focus drives but Sime Darby ... haiz ... h..o..p..e..l..e..s..s..
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post Jan 11 2015, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(SP|D3RMaN @ Jan 11 2015, 09:04 AM)
Hey guys, time for some whining.

But before I do, let's just say that i am still a happy owner of a Ford Focus S+ '13.
Nevertheless, i am very unsatisfied with the after sales service of Sime Darby. Especially their branch in PJ.
I sent in my car on Thursday for a "Check Engine Light". The car is still sitting in their workshop as i am writing this. Guess what? They have yet to start checking on the car.

I had to call them on Friday evening and Saturday morning just so that i can have some updates.
They promised to call me back on Friday evening itself and no calls was return.
They promised to call me back on Saturday itself and no calls was return.

Sime Darby is really screwing us all up!!! I understand a car will have some minor issues/hiccups once a while. Any other brand is the same. But the after sales service is what set different companies apart. I sent my wife's Toyota to their SC and have never received such low quality service at all. I own a Perodua, Proton and Honda previously and never once I was left disgusted by their respective service level.

Sighs ... bad choice of buying a Ford? I don't know ... I still like how a Focus drives but Sime Darby ... haiz ... h..o..p..e..l..e..s..s..
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Your experience doesn't come as a surprise to me. Similarly, from my previous experience the after-sales service of Sime Darby in PJ is quite lacking. Once there is a need to leave the car in the service centre/workshop for 1 or 2 days as advised by the service advisor, do not take his/her words for real as chances are your car may be stuck there for a considerably longer period than what that was promised.

Last year when they attempted to change the clock spring in the steering wheel of my car, I was advised that the job will take 1 to 2 days. That 1-2 days turned to 7 days as they encountered some "technical glitch". After this incident, any job that requires me to leave my car at the service centre even for 1 day, I will request for the courtesy replacement car. Even though the courtesy car is subject to availability, I have managed to get a Focus replacement car back home for another incident which lasted for 1 day, this time as promised.

Your case is different as the guys did not attend to your car even though your car was already at the service centre. From Thursday to Saturday, 3 days. You might as well send your car in on Monday tomorrow morning since I doubt they are working today (Sunday). So they have wasted your 3 days leaving you without a car. What bad arrangement from Sime Darby. For this bad arrangement and lack of telephone calls to update the owner on this matter, you may wish to complain to the manager there, Anbananthan. Quite a polished chap. Although he couldn't do much about the quality of service of Sime Darby due to lack of resources and manpower, at least the service guy who managed your car will get some scolding from him for the poor arrangement.
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post Jan 11 2015, 11:55 AM

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Hmm, can I conclude if SC request us to leave the car for few days for checking, request for a courtesy car. Confirm the availability of the courtesy car before leaving our car with the service center.
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QUOTE(SP|D3RMaN @ Jan 11 2015, 09:04 AM)
Hey guys, time for some whining.

But before I do, let's just say that i am still a happy owner of a Ford Focus S+ '13.
Nevertheless, i am very unsatisfied with the after sales service of Sime Darby. Especially their branch in PJ.
I sent in my car on Thursday for a "Check Engine Light". The car is still sitting in their workshop as i am writing this. Guess what? They have yet to start checking on the car.

I had to call them on Friday evening and Saturday morning just so that i can have some updates.
They promised to call me back on Friday evening itself and no calls was return.
They promised to call me back on Saturday itself and no calls was return.

Sime Darby is really screwing us all up!!! I understand a car will have some minor issues/hiccups once a while. Any other brand is the same. But the after sales service is what set different companies apart. I sent my wife's Toyota to their SC and have never received such low quality service at all. I own a Perodua, Proton and Honda previously and never once I was left disgusted by their respective service level.

Sighs ... bad choice of buying a Ford? I don't know ... I still like how a Focus drives but Sime Darby ... haiz ... h..o..p..e..l..e..s..s..
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Being a GLC status company , you can't expect much from them cause I'm working under Sime Darby Group too. I understand how you feel bro, Cheer up! There was time I was so pissed off with the service from PJ branch and my new Fofo caused me replacement of gear clutch which took up to a week in PJ workshop.

Then, one of my colleauge told me to switch to Puchong service centre under Persada Auto . The service is not very fantastic but at least they solve my problems with clear explantation. Not like the Indian Manager from Sime Darby PJ who knows how to act like Tai Chi Master , Kung Fu Tai Chi left and right without solving my problems.

One good thing , Persada Auto manage to minimize two things which really annoyed me all the shile , the grinding sound and rattling sound become lesser after my previous service . The problems still there but not as bad as before during my previous service before Christmas. They have updated a software to calibrate my gear , the gear changes around 2500RPM from first to second onwards during normal acceleration. Not like previously ,normal acceleration for gear changed around 2000rpm from first to second gear onwards. In terms of fuel consumption , the current situation consume more fuel, perhaps higher RPM of changing gear but grinding sound is lesser.

Did anyone of you encounter this? Please share.


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post Jan 12 2015, 02:45 PM

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Warranty for my car has expired, can any taikor here recommend an independent WORKSHOP in PJ or KL that can repair Ford cars , hopefully they carry enough range and quantity of ford parts ,
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I am currently looking at the 2nd hand car of ford focus s plus.

Is it worth it? Mind recommend me any workshop or mechanics that can bring to the car dealer for inspection on site.

Thanks
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post Jan 12 2015, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(Ken77 @ Jan 12 2015, 11:16 AM)
Being a GLC status company , you can't expect much from them cause I'm working under Sime Darby Group too. I understand how you feel bro, Cheer up!  There was time I was so pissed off with the service from PJ branch and my new  Fofo caused me replacement of gear clutch  which took up to a week in PJ workshop.

Then, one of my colleauge told me to switch to Puchong service centre under Persada Auto . The service is not very fantastic but at least they solve my problems with clear explantation. Not like the Indian Manager from Sime Darby PJ who knows how to act like Tai Chi Master , Kung Fu Tai Chi  left and right without solving my problems.

One good thing , Persada Auto manage to minimize two things which really annoyed me all the shile , the grinding sound and rattling sound become lesser after my previous service .  The problems still there but not as bad as before  during my previous service before Christmas.  They have updated a software to calibrate my gear , the gear changes around  2500RPM  from first to second onwards during normal acceleration. Not like previously ,normal acceleration for  gear  changed around 2000rpm from first to second gear  onwards.  In terms of fuel consumption , the current situation consume more fuel, perhaps higher RPM of changing gear but grinding sound is lesser. 

Did anyone of you encounter this? Please share.
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Mine FoFo has updated with software and performed change on clutch seal in July 2014
No grinding and rattling sound after this. But pay for the price of higher fuel consumption.
In the past, one full tank can last for 500km to 600km.
Now, only last for 480km to 580km. But I'm happy with it.


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post Jan 13 2015, 11:48 PM

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anyone of you have problem with front parking sensor>? Please do let me know if have and how to fix it.

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and any good place to sent to services when the time come?

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