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Ken77
post Mar 26 2014, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 26 2014, 10:14 AM)
The problem seems to be the dry clutch, wet clutch seems to be having way less problems
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Long time didn't post my comments here . I'm owner of new ford focus titanum which I bought last year May.
I have sent my car to workshop last month on 24 Feb for gear clutch replacement and shaft which cause rattling sound. It took 5 and half days to do all the replacement .

As at today, gear functioning better with no gear slip. Fuel comsumption is getting normal but grinding sound still occur especially during the transition from first to second gear.
In addition, rattling sound still occur especially travelling on uneven road. I really do know what the f*** Simedarby Auto service people has done for the 5 and half days. Are they retifying the right problems? By finding the rootcause? I'm doubt.

I have sent my car recent Monday and tried to fix up my driver electronic seat which was jam . To my surprise, Simedarby Auto customer service told me it require 2 days. What the f***, it take 2 days to fix one electronic seat????

Ford Focus is a good car and I have no complaint about the handling and performance. But the gear issue definitely will drag their reputation down if they don't solve it. The most annoying part,Ford customers service keep stressing to the point that the gear grinding sound is normal and it's superior than other gear system. Then , why are they replaced new clutch for me???????? shakehead.gif

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post Mar 27 2014, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 26 2014, 04:28 PM)
Greetings, when i went to SC ( I am from Melaka ), i saw one very new focus s+ getting its replacement transmission, they had to change it due to very loud grinding noise ( car is about 1 year+ ).
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Good handling and performance car VS Less hassle car ?? To be frank , I prefer my previous Japs car with no hassle at all. Sent in and collected the car during the same day before lunch for normal service for 5 years, with very minor problems which I can't even recall.

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post May 22 2014, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ May 13 2014, 11:18 AM)
Yes, the Malay lad at SDAC Jalan Ipoh, rather short and pint-sized with glasses. He never failed to put on a smile even though owners are complaining on the slow repair works or spare parts arrival. Certainly one of the better service guys around, attentive and friendly. Most of the guys in SDAC PJ are a bit lacking(including one of the ladies), probably too much work on the table, usually with long sour faces. Not tactile enough. It takes time to build up the level of quality of the management, and SDAC may be slightly lacking in this area in comparison to say the Japanese.
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Dwango, same here. I have encountered the same issue like you and deal with a indian fockernaden customer service manager based in PJ SDAC branch. No credibility caused promised to call me back with my issues after seeing him but ends up no call.

Im not saying i'm a very good manager. But at least try level best to solve customers issues, instead of ' Tai Chi ' how gear functioning? How the system work? All I want its to know the fastest speed to deliver the replacement and fix up the car to solve my issues. It just that simple!!!!!!!
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post Sep 29 2014, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(wishndream @ Sep 29 2014, 12:16 PM)
My focus already 17k km. Already update software during 10k service.

1. Jerking coming back around 15k km & getting worse. sometimes causing obvious vibration during upshifting 1-2-3

2. Grinding sound also getting worse

3. Bad smell/odour coming from aircond during start-up
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Hey wishndream,

To purchase a focus , the griding & jerking is part of the package for this model. I have used to the annoyed sound .

I have changed my clutch during my 20k KM service , the grinding sound and jerking is very minimal . However, when my focus car mileage travel around 40K Km plus, the grinding and jerking come back again especially first to second gear.

Most of my friend ask me about this car performance and I say this car is truly having gear problems, That's it, buy it or not it's up to individual!Like my wife who doesn't care any sound in the car, she can accept Ford Focus. But it is certainly not for me to accept the grinding sound and jerking which explained numerous time by Ford service team.

Second noise is the rattling sound near the driver seat. I have changed the shaft early this year but the sound still there . The sound reminded me the time when I was diring my Proton Wira 10 years ago. The car came with many funny sound as if some screw going to drop off from the car. Never know after 10 years, the sound haunt me again.
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post Nov 8 2014, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(no-tech-know-logy @ Nov 6 2014, 11:32 PM)
I just received a letter from Ford. Warranty reminder. Its addressing the transmission and the shuddering and jerking. Ask to bring the car in for repair if its excessive.

Anyone else receive this letter?
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Yeab, I received mine too.

SDAC clarified to us in advance just in case Ford car owner complain, just like VW protestor complaint for their dual clutch gear problems and warranty service this year

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post Jan 12 2015, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(SP|D3RMaN @ Jan 11 2015, 09:04 AM)
Hey guys, time for some whining.

But before I do, let's just say that i am still a happy owner of a Ford Focus S+ '13.
Nevertheless, i am very unsatisfied with the after sales service of Sime Darby. Especially their branch in PJ.
I sent in my car on Thursday for a "Check Engine Light". The car is still sitting in their workshop as i am writing this. Guess what? They have yet to start checking on the car.

I had to call them on Friday evening and Saturday morning just so that i can have some updates.
They promised to call me back on Friday evening itself and no calls was return.
They promised to call me back on Saturday itself and no calls was return.

Sime Darby is really screwing us all up!!! I understand a car will have some minor issues/hiccups once a while. Any other brand is the same. But the after sales service is what set different companies apart. I sent my wife's Toyota to their SC and have never received such low quality service at all. I own a Perodua, Proton and Honda previously and never once I was left disgusted by their respective service level.

Sighs ... bad choice of buying a Ford? I don't know ... I still like how a Focus drives but Sime Darby ... haiz ... h..o..p..e..l..e..s..s..
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Being a GLC status company , you can't expect much from them cause I'm working under Sime Darby Group too. I understand how you feel bro, Cheer up! There was time I was so pissed off with the service from PJ branch and my new Fofo caused me replacement of gear clutch which took up to a week in PJ workshop.

Then, one of my colleauge told me to switch to Puchong service centre under Persada Auto . The service is not very fantastic but at least they solve my problems with clear explantation. Not like the Indian Manager from Sime Darby PJ who knows how to act like Tai Chi Master , Kung Fu Tai Chi left and right without solving my problems.

One good thing , Persada Auto manage to minimize two things which really annoyed me all the shile , the grinding sound and rattling sound become lesser after my previous service . The problems still there but not as bad as before during my previous service before Christmas. They have updated a software to calibrate my gear , the gear changes around 2500RPM from first to second onwards during normal acceleration. Not like previously ,normal acceleration for gear changed around 2000rpm from first to second gear onwards. In terms of fuel consumption , the current situation consume more fuel, perhaps higher RPM of changing gear but grinding sound is lesser.

Did anyone of you encounter this? Please share.


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post Jan 22 2015, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(jameshy @ Jan 12 2015, 07:59 PM)
Mine FoFo has updated with software and performed change on clutch seal in July 2014
No grinding and rattling sound after this. But pay for the price of higher fuel consumption.
In the past, one full tank can last for 500km to 600km.
Now, only last for 480km to 580km. But I'm happy with it.
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Thanks Jameshy. Glad to hear your issues has resolved like mine.
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post May 14 2015, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(gtiwtks @ May 13 2015, 09:12 AM)
2.5 Months backlog consider "LONG"??? LOL.....

You think you the are the only one waiting to replacing the clutch??? i would said out of 80% owner are waiting to replace their clutch

My first replacement as SDAC PJ waited for 3 months....

Second replacement which i am doing now at Ford Sungai Pencala.... I have to wait for around 5 month before they can schedule a slot for me....

2.5 months can consider lucky already.....
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Bro gtiwtks , mine second clutch replacement already . Waited for 2 weeks for clutch replacement because my car couldn't move at all when I sent to workshop for normal service. When they calibrated my clutch, they found my clutch malfunction .

I change my clutch twice in 2 years, let say if I'm going to drive this car for another 3 years, I'm expecting to change clutch for 3 times if I'm unlucky .

Though I'm the unlucky one ! shakehead.gif
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post Jun 19 2015, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(jameshy @ Jun 18 2015, 06:30 PM)
my fofo has been in ford service center for more than one month and until now it is not able to resolve.

The story begin in early May. I can't start my car and though it is battery failure and sent to ford service center for car battery replacement. But, later on, I found my car was difficult to start the engine 2 days after new battery replacement.

The failure to start the engine getting serious. Sometime, I can start the car engine by one press on push start button. But most of the time, I spent at least 15 minutes or more than a hour to keep on pressing the push start button to start the car engine. Log the complaint to ford service center and the feedback is problem on ABS sensor. No stock on ABS sensor and ask me to drive the car temporary as it is until the ABS sensors are available. Make lot of noise in service center and they can't help much since Ford PJ HQ is damn slow in response.

Ask for courtesy car for temporary until my car is fix. The service center unable to fulfill and not even want to help too. After shouting on Ford customer careline several time, finally receive courtesy car Hyundi i10 on 4 June until today.

On part replacement, in the beginning the service center claimed it is ABS sensor failure, but later on informed that changing ABS sensor will cause problem on immobilizer. Immobilizer stock in Thailand, and it took 2 weeks to arrive Malaysia from Thailand. Cant believe that kind of bad service from Ford Malaysia.

Finally the immobilizer is arrived and installed yesterday morning. Bang! the car engine still fail to start. Until now, everyone is clueless and no idea to proceed on my car.

In fact, I love FoFo on its driving dynamic but with this kind of service from ford Malaysia, I wont recommend Ford car to anyone. Before this breakdown, I plan to replace FoFo by this year end with new Ford Everest. Now, I will switch to other car model.

Beside of all the bad thing in ford service, only one good point for ford customer careline, The lady Ms Alza that attend to my case, is very prompt on her response and assist. For others involved in my case, you are fail and suck on your service.
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Bro Jameshy, totally understand your frustration . Why dun you go direct to their superior by setting a timeframe with all your issues? If the superior unable to solve it for you on time, just escalate to senior management till your case solve.

To be frank, you issues are serious because the car difficult to start , and now you are not talking about jerking or grinding sound anymore with car moving condition!

Yes, I love Fofo too with its performance. But in reality world, do we really need it especially KL boy like me living in high traffic condition? For a salesman like me, it is part of cari makan vehicle and eventually get worry if our cars giving us problems too much!!




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post Jun 22 2015, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Jun 19 2015, 10:19 PM)
I have to question whether the better handling of a Conti car is worth the headache of owning one. It's not just Ford, horror stories are also common with Peugeot and VW. To be honest I don't know which of the 3 brands to pity the owner more.

Poor reliability in our climate is compounded by atrocious after sales service and unavailability of spare parts. 4-6 months to replace a faulty clutch is really not acceptable and I thought oil leak problems only happen for old cars. But I was brought up on Japanese car reliability where leaving cars for months in the workshop for repair comes as a shock that such things can happen.

Comparison with the Mazda CX-5 isn't the same. The CX-5 had a serious accident and its problems as described appear annoying rather than immobilizing. The owner did not lose the use of his vehicle. The problem was solved after all but in the case of Conti cars some problems never get solved or they just keep recurring after being "fixed".

After the warranty expires your Conti car is very painful to maintain for the middle class wage earner. You will be looking to sell it off but its low second hand value will be another painful blow.

I'm not deriding Focus owners here, I'm just trying to understand why? Why put your hard earned money down on a car which is almost guaranteed to give you heartache? Is the ability to corner a little faster worth a nightmarish ownership experience? Is life so boring that you need the challenge of maintaining a Ford knowing full well its questionable reliability, chronic problems, abusive after sales service and refusal of the distributor to stock spare parts?
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Yes, totally agreed with you! We understand and already foresee the drawbacks or setbacks when we choosing a conti car. The point is not about the drawback or low resale value of conti car , it is all about after sales service. Just don't understand why SDAC pump money in radio and newspaper advertisement without taking serious plans to improve their after sales service.

In such highly competitive car industries, I think SDAC management certainly need to do something about their BAD service!






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post Dec 30 2015, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(Chungyehkoo @ Dec 30 2015, 02:34 AM)
Recently... hehe...
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BTW, no one have any contact for body paint touch-up for candy red?
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Congrats to you! First time I see FF in wedding car.

Good deco! rclxms.gif
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post Dec 30 2015, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(seshatri @ Dec 28 2015, 05:26 PM)
I have the dragging sound occasionally, especially going up hill with low gears / going over speed bumps but I can second you on the loss of power. I can feel a delay in gear change when I slam the accelerator to overtake or to speed up. This is very obvious compared to before the clutch change. Guess I need to check this on my next service.

BTW, any recommendations to which tyre suits best for FoFo Sedan (stock is GY Assurance 205/55/16)
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After my clutch changed last 2 months, I'm facing the dragging like oooooo sounds when accelerate, power to accelerate has lessen!

Current jerking and grinding sound has minimize compare before clutch change. I also noticed the jerking and grinding sound occur frequently at late evening, means morning has very minimal jerking and grinding sound.

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post Jan 7 2016, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(-ahtiang- @ Jan 7 2016, 07:32 AM)
Sigh** my Focus got bang from behind by a Myvi last night... super boring now at these time during CNY!... gggrrrrr....
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Any serious damage? Mine was hit by motorbike last 2 weeks. Has ordered lamp from SDAC and need 2 to 3 weeks arrival... blink.gif
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post Jan 7 2016, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(-ahtiang- @ Jan 7 2016, 05:10 PM)
Yeah, the rear bumper is dented in and torn with the rear bottom deflector damaged and rear sensor... I have called up SDAC PJ and they mentioned 3-4 weeks if stocks available and if not have to import from Thailand... sigh*** boring.. super boring and worst no car to use during the period..
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Yeab.. need to wait few weeks for parts. Unlike Japanese car like my Vios previously is much easier to get parts elsewhere.

Take it easy!
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post Jan 22 2016, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(Old1030 @ Jan 20 2016, 10:23 PM)
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How much is the cost to change your battery, I have change once under warranty, today i asked SC they quoted me at about RM800++  rclxub.gif

Its has been long since im not updating on my fofo sport+ here

On last year July, my car ABS light on, city stop not function and HSA not function, car warded nearly 2 month at PJ, they replace the ABS module

Then last 2 week the same indicator lights ON again, during my way to my hometown ipoh,
Send to SC Ipoh, Ford SC very funny, if we never been there before, there is no way for them to track our car record,
I told them i have this same problem before and ask them to check with PJ, after 2 weeks they still cannot sort things out, they said PJ is not cooperating with them  rclxms.gif cannot contact and so many excuses went out,, last saturday i went to PJ myself using my wife car,, and talk to Shafiq the After Sales Mgr, and within few minutes and a phone call to ipoh SC all things settel,, and bear in mind that my car still at ipoh SC,, im doing their job to fastern things up,
Ipoh SC make a diagnose with PJ Manager still on phone line, they found out my rear wheel speed sensor is faulty, warranty finish, luckly its only RM 280++ per set, but have to wait for 2 weeks for parts to arrive from thailand, no other SC keep stock

This is not my daily car, the mileage is only at 35k km after 3 years of ownership, but giving far even worse head and heart pain compare to my daily car and motorcycle that doing almost 20k km /year both.

Pergghh  yawn.gif
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Yeab.... just went to Honda showroom with plan to sell off my Ford Focus. My year 2013 sedan car was able to trade in around RM46K to RM50K only ....WTF!

I left no choice to drive this car for few more years ( come with package of no spare parts which require to wait for few weeks , problematic gear system and last and not least , screw up after sales service till I complaint to SDAC General Manager)

FORD Boleh!!! icon_idea.gif
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post Jan 26 2016, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 23 2016, 11:11 PM)
Which spare parts which require few weeks? And what problems did you car encounter with the gear system?

RM50k for a 2+ year old car surely sound a bit low. Looking at the rate, a 5-year old Focus may likely dip below the RM40k mark? A 5-year old Focus fetching RM35k? Yikes.
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Just to post my frustration ... no hard feeling to all my friends here who are driving ford . Ordered my back tail lamp required more than 3 weeks to arrive PJ showroom


Yes Sportyhandling...I think 5 years old focus may drop below RM40K easily.

I have changed my clutch for 2 times . Lets pray the current gear will not create any problems again! sweat.gif
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post Jan 26 2016, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(wingwp @ Jan 22 2016, 10:25 PM)
y buy a Ford if resell value important to u

or y buy a car when even Toyota can't fetch u good resell value
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I'm keen to sell off after 2 and half years of traumatic experience driving Ford Focus , and later discovered the low resale value. Despite my car come with loan interest subsidy and enjoying 20% discount for servicing and parts at SDAC , this car is not worth to own it after 5 years of warranty period .

I dun think clutch changing will come cheap after warranty period , drove for 2 and half year with 2 times clutch changed! Huhuuuuuuuu.......

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post Feb 16 2016, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Feb 16 2016, 12:25 PM)
Yes, I just called them and they are fully occupied and very full, specifically for the clutch repair/fixing cases. My car not only has jerking(mild to moderate jerking) but also dragging noise from the transmission after the clutch was replaced. It is not only jerking but noisy also. Bad. I'm trying to get them to fix it for me but they are always full.

I was told this clutch warranty is for 3 years only, but due to the seriousness of this issue, Ford should extend the warranty to 5 years or maybe up to 10 years, in my opinion. But looking at the situation, tough luck seeing the condition at the service centres as Sime Darby lack manpower and resources to cope, unless they add manpower and resources, which will equate to higher cost.
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Sporty, something good to share! After I pumped in Petron Ron97, it seems that my jerking and grinding sound become very much lesser. I started to switch Petron Ron 97 early this month and this is the second Petron Ron97 pump... so far so good.

Before that, the engine "whoooo" sounds is louder during transmission, jerking and grinding sounds more obvious but after switched to Petron Ron97... everything seems smoother and engine " whooo" sound become lesser...

Hope my car can be better in future..

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post Aug 3 2016, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(jayxunned @ Aug 1 2016, 12:15 PM)
I FB PM Ford Malaysia. They asked me for my VIN number in-order to check whether my unit also got affected.

Meanwhile my Focus is jerky as shit, since my home actually needed to be go through a hill....

I noticed with the change of Petrol 95 to 97 did reduce the jerky and gear grinding. I am not sure why, shall test for another week to see.
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Yeab, I mentioned in earlier post about change petrol to 97. Less jerking and grinding sound.

During my 90K service, SDAC confirmed my car require clutch replacement in coming Nov. This is the third year driving Fofo with 3rd clutch replacement. icon_question.gif

SDAC has screw themselves by providing BAD after sales service. Ford is selling ok for Ranger model in Malaysia. If not, they will drops out from Malaysia just like Japan and Indonesia. bye.gif

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post Aug 4 2016, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(wingwp @ Aug 4 2016, 03:17 AM)
i dun understand the mindset of jerk = change clutch, it will not become no jerk or less

when it shudder badly then u'll know its a bad clutch
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bro, I dun understand either . Same goes to SDAC because I dun think they know exactly what the fu@K is happening....All I know, Im driving 3 years Fofo with 3 clutch replacement..... rclxub.gif

I do not understand "when is shudder badly, then u will know its bad clutch".. Can you please enlighten us? smile.gif



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