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post Jan 24 2014, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(jenova @ Jan 23 2014, 02:09 PM)
Guys, i'm thinking to buy Ford Focus or Peugeot 408, can you guys give me some advise or ideas?

I love both actually.... which one is easier to get spare part, cheaper spare part price, FC?

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The 408 is surely ugly. The only model that is worth considering in the Peugeot line is the 508.
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post Jan 25 2014, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(0304125 @ Jan 24 2014, 04:31 PM)
for me, only the 308 is worth considering in Peugeot, I love hatchback  wub.gif
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Hatchbacks are not really my cup of tea but yes, if you are into hatchbacks then the 308 is worth considering in the Peugeot line. The 208 looks like college kid's car. A bit young.


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post Jan 27 2014, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(0304125 @ Jan 26 2014, 11:29 AM)
guess I'm young then tongue.gif
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Yeah, not like us old men. :-)
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post Jan 27 2014, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(Ambang2 @ Jan 26 2014, 10:49 PM)
To good to be true at 85k even mudah is selling at 90k+-
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Mudah prices are all inflated ie. jacked up. For a one year old model, a depreciation of RM25k-30k is a norm.
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post Feb 12 2014, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(cheongyf @ Feb 12 2014, 05:59 PM)
Went to Genting over the weekend. After making on of the corner the gear seems to be disengaged. The RPM shoot up to 4k and lost the torque momentarily for a second. Then the gear engaged back and continue my journey.
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Only on the VERY steep slopes after a corner, yes, there is a lag in the upshifting which results in a momentarily loss of torque for a second. Not really a big issue, as when the gear is engaged, the acceleration up the steep slope is powerful.

QUOTE(cheongyf @ Feb 12 2014, 05:59 PM)
At one point I was on a downhill steep slope and the RPM went up to 4.5k and the gearbox refuse to shift to the next gear.

Other than that the gear seems couldn't predict much which gear to use. Really have to floor the accelerator a bit to gain the speed and momentum.
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Is this going downhill? If going down the steel slope, this is caused by the engine braking which has caused the RPM to shoot up to 4500 or higher, and the vehicle slows down with the braking. Yes, you need to step on the pedal so as engine braking disengages and the RPM goes back to normal (the car gains higher speed).


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post Feb 14 2014, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(Chosen1 @ Feb 14 2014, 07:31 AM)
Would like to ask all the sifus about the low speed juddering issue, I find that its the worst especially moving from 0 - 50 kmph, especially in Jams or when you just started to move the car. Its even worse when you step on the accelerator really really lightly, as it really does seem that it revs up higher and then moves to 2nd gear causing it jerk because of the gear shift. But if you do step on the accelerator it more consistently (aka picking up speed) its much better and the juddering is not so noticeable. It feels really like when in super low speeds like in Jam or maybe in the car park etc when very low speeds are needed its a little confused on how the gear shifts should be handled, esp from 1st to 2nd gear. (that or I'm used to how my VIOS drives haha)

Is this the common juddering in low speed characteristic of the FOFO in low speed that everyone is talking about, or is mine kinda out of character?
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Well I really don't know. I presume it is common but if the juddering is too serious to the point of annoying then maybe something is wrong. However, I share the same observation in the behavior of the vehicle at very low speeds. Yes, even with a slight step on the pedal when moving at very low speeds say 0-20km/h, the vehicle ma have the tendency to jerk forward a little. So, during traffic jams, to avoid or minimise unpleasant jerks you can try to avoid stepping on the accelerator too often but instead let the car glide forward on its own slowly. Only when the vehicle in front is already very far in front, then you may step on the accelerator with more force, and in this way the car will not jerk too much. Only when you step on the accelerator bit by bit at low speeds, the shudder/jerk will be quite prominent.

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post Feb 21 2014, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(pin86 @ Feb 19 2014, 06:30 PM)
I tried before but the current is so low that it doesn't charge fast enough to overcome the drain.
I am using a usb cigarette port charger that works like a charm.
I don't think it will affect the car battery.
As of phone battery, my thought is that because our car is new, the battery and alternator is all new, the voltage and current would be stable, so it will be ok for the phone.
There's also a fuse in the usb charger just in case.
On top of that, if I remember correctly, I was once told that there's voltage stabilizer or current stabilizer chip in the phone so it should not be a threat.
I am no good with electronics, maybe some sifu can advise oso.
Do you guys train the transmission?

I am not sure what I am going to say is valid or perhaps its only my own perception.
I have not always been light on the peddle since day one.
Sometimes took it for some hardcore speed drive with D mode, just simply step on the peddle and let it rev up to accelerate on a clear road.
By doing this, I believe that I am giving more data to the transmission computer on the average rev that it should change gear.
I do not have juddering problem since 2000km mileage and I am at 7000km mileage now.
At crawling speed, the gearbox would not try to change gear and judder as my gear change from 1 to 2 will happen at 2000rpm.

I am sure that most existing owner already get use to it and no longer a concern.
For new owner, you will feel concern but after awhile, you will know how to avoid the juddering. thumbup.gif
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Juddering at low speed is minimal for me. Only the suspension feels a bit noisy to me especially when going up concrete grooved ramps or bad roads.
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post Feb 23 2014, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Feb 23 2014, 12:03 PM)
Just stumbled upon this Table. Not too sure how accurate are these figures though the Focus registered 9.5s in a 0-100km/h dash. Surprisingly the new Toyota Altis 2.0 goes quicker than the Honda Civic 2.0 VTEC.

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Should include 100-180km/h where the Focus should stretch itself further apart from the pack.
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post Feb 23 2014, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Hizami_83 @ Feb 23 2014, 12:53 PM)
The 0-100 list appeared for cars sold in thai. They dont have VW Jetta is it. Jetta 0-100 is 8.3s.
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The Volkswagen Jetta and Passat are great cars, a class higher than the Focus in terms of smoothness and refinement in gearbox transmission, and an overall quiet cabin. And yes, the acceleration of the Jetta should be more powerful than the Focus.
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post Feb 23 2014, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(rooks @ Feb 23 2014, 08:14 PM)
guys... new Ford Focus..... to be announced in Geneva Motor Show next month....

http://www.carscoops.com/2014/02/2015-ford...ets-fusion.html

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The front Aston-Martin grille looks uglier than the current design of the Focus to me. However, for the interior, the new steering wheel looks better with nicer buttons. The shape of the centre console remains similar though it looked less cluttered and neater with fewer buttons. Overall an improvement in the interior. Exterior changes are more of a mix bag.

Ford should concentrate in improving the mechanics of the vehicle instead - that should make the new Focus 2015 a more interesting proposition. The transmission, noisy suspension and grinding sound.
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post Feb 23 2014, 08:25 PM

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post Feb 27 2014, 07:31 AM

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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Feb 24 2014, 03:02 PM)
actually i have test drive it yesterday alongside mazda 3. did not know of this problem before. my first chocie would be mazda but there was a gap of 28k which is a little to wide for us. perhaps i should test drive another time. correct me if i am wrong. the  judderign happens when you break and immediately step floor teh accelerator? so need to do it slowly?
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Any thoughts on the comparison between the Mazda 3 and Ford Focus? Is the Mazda 3 model you had test driven the 1.6 or 2.0? At a price close to RM140k the you might as well consider a cheaper D-segment rather than the Mazda 3.
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post Mar 1 2014, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Feb 27 2014, 08:33 AM)
in terms of handling i prefer Ford(a little better not by far) but design wise mazda is better both interior and exterior. Mazda has a cleaner interior as comapred to focus where there are lots of button here and there.
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Yes, I agree the interior of the Mazda3 is cleaner than the messy dashboard of the Focus. That's only the dashboard where the Focus is less desirable when compared to most vehicles with cleaner and neater dashboards. However, the trimmings on the door panels of the Focus (the Titanium sedan) look higher quality and more solid than the Mazda 3 to me.

Noted on the slightly better handling on the Focus.
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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Mar 1 2014, 01:13 PM)
I just tried the cerato 2.0 just a while ago. In term of handling it still have a long way to go compared to m3 and ford. The stearing not as responsive and there seems to be a lag between pressing the peddle and the acceleration. It's quite obvious so much so my wife equates it with out mivy. Sound proofing  also not as good probably due to 17in rim.

But of course a lot of feature. Aircond on the butt etc. anyway need to decide between ford and this Kia.
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Handling of Koreans are certainly sub-par. The Cerato is probably good in areas of interior refinement and clean design, features and quietness, though drivability and performance are usually not up to par. I doubt it could even match Altis or Civic, not to mention the increased levels of handling of the Mazda M3 and Ford Focus. It is easy to assess the performance of the car once you test drive it. THe steering feel that is precise, the stability of the car when cornering, the firm suspension that enables the car to stick to the road with little body roll. The differences will be apparent even with a short test-drive.

So it depends on what you want in the features and nice dashboard layout of the Cerato, or the performance and handling and the messier dashboard layout of the Focus. Not too sure if back space is important to you. The back passenger space and rear legroom is rather limited in the Focus. Not too sure about Cerato.
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post Mar 29 2014, 05:15 AM

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QUOTE(AL109BT @ Mar 29 2014, 01:35 AM)
hi, noticed quite a numbers of vios changing to focus or thinking of changing to focus. i was one of them. after ting-tong for 3-4 months n read thru all the pros n cons, i finally get the focus. my vios served me well for exact 9yrs with 320k km. no offence, i never thought of changing to altis or even a camry as its only a bigger size of vios. i always be the driver n i want to have fun during the drive. focus is the car for driver.
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Most common Japanese cars don't really cut it when it comes to handling. The new Altis is reported to have slightly better handling than the previous model, but highly unlikely to match the Focus in performance. Yes, it's surely a driver's car which is pure fun for the driver who is driving alone. If looking for a car to fetch the wife or kids then the Altis or D-segment will be more suitable due to added space at the back seat.
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post Apr 2 2014, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(pin86 @ Apr 2 2014, 08:43 PM)
A very sad incident happened to my car.
My younger brother took it to Cameron Highland for vacation.
When he reverse up a steep slope at the parking lot, the car loses power and slide forward and hit the wall.

There's deep scratches to the paint job and the bumper lip torn off.
The lower radiator cover shattered into few pieces.

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I have encounter this before.
I am not sure if it is the transmission, engine or traction control.
When at steep slope, regardless how hard u step on the pedal, the car refuses to reverse.
Anyone experience the same?

I disassembled the bumper, stitched the cover and reassemble it as a makeshift solution.

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Looks bad. Sorry about your car man.

It is true that the Focus somehow does not have the power to reverse when at a very steep slope, or when the back tyres are resting on the low surface of a road going up a higher surface. For example, on a speed bump, the back tyres are just before the speed bump, and when you reverse the car, it may not have the power to go above that speed bump. I have experienced that before, though not many times, since I don't get into such situations much.

Not too sure what is the reason of the lack of power when reversing up steep slopes though. Only way is not to get into those situations. In your case the car loses power and slide forward, even by slamming on the brakes the car still slide forward? In extreme situations, if the brake won't work then perhaps pulling up the handbrake is another solution in emergency situations.

Hope your car will get back to shape in time. It hurts my eyes seeing the condition of the car in those pictures.
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post Apr 12 2014, 03:00 PM

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Anybody done the software upgrade and noticed that although the jerking at low speed is significantly reduced to the point of non-existent, the acceleration felt less powerful without the jerks. The acceleration is smoother without the jerks as if the transmission is a CVT. During hard acceleration, the vehicle feels like it is less powerful without kick as there are no jerks when the gear upshifts from 1st to 2nd, or 2nd to 3rd. Previously there is a noticeble jerk during hard acceleration and you feel your body being pushed to the seat. Now there's no jerk during acceleration.

The only good thing is at crawling traffic jams, the jerkless drive is nice. However, when there is a need for speed during acceleration, seems like the jerks add more kick thrill to the drive. Without the jerks the car felt less powerful. Anyone felt the same?
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QUOTE(lexta @ Apr 19 2014, 10:57 PM)
becareful of door wing mirror it cost 2K++ just to replace.
And is super fragile any motorcycle hit it the bracket will broke and the wing mirror wont close any more
Things are super expensive in bolehland. In UK and US the replacement don't even hit Rm1k mark.

Now im trying to source it from other country for the correct version.
Too many different variant and model code and different pin connection.
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RM2000+ for a door wing mirror. Yikes. Is that the quote from Ford Sime Darby? If you source it from other countries you still have to let the Sime Darby guys fix the wing mirror for your car?

Guess we have to always look out for motorcycles when in tight situations and try to leave some space for them to pass.
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post Apr 22 2014, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(rawna_air @ Apr 21 2014, 11:36 PM)
Ok thanks for your opinion.. One of my friend also said.. Buying a conti car as a second car is ok.. But not advisable if you have one car only.. Which make sense.. Is the fofo reliable enough??
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Car is reliable but service centre isn't too reliable. THat is the reason how the advice of having a 2nd car had come by. If your car has a seemingly minor problem, the ordering of the part(s) may take weeks. And to have the car fixed at the SC, somehow they don't do things quickly, and your car may need to be left in the service centre for several days or up to 1 week.

Having said that, there are little to zero issues with the car in terms of quality, other than the need to send in the car for regular service.
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post Apr 22 2014, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(neorage_x @ Apr 21 2014, 08:20 PM)
Just test drive the Ford Focus today.. oh no... oh no... I have fallen in love...
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Fall in love with what? The exceptional cornering capabilities, or the solid stable ride at high speed? Or is it the high quality fit and finish of the interior and cabin? Or perhaps the self-parking system, or is it the superb clarity of the Sony stereo system or the call function of the Sync?

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