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post Dec 26 2014, 03:00 PM

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to those that has their clutch pack changed, i'm experiencing a rise in FC.

Do you all have the same issue?
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post Dec 27 2014, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(wishndream @ Dec 25 2014, 12:55 AM)
i noticed the leakage & ask the service guy. He confirms it
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Good to know. When you mentioned "Recently i feel the gear shift jerking & vibration becoming worse", I presume the car is jerking when accelerating at low speeds. Hopefully the guys can resolve the problem for you soon. Would appreciate if you can update if it happens that they can reduce the jerks and vibration, whatever they are and not just give the usual "it's normal the car is supposed to behave this way due to the dual-clutch transmission" excuse.
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post Dec 29 2014, 12:39 PM

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the jerking is supposed to be apparent for new cars, then it smoothens out after first service (must be fully run in already). this is my experience so far. been with this car for 6 months already, must say it is getting better.

however, I still can't prevent the car from vibrating and jerking especially at slow and stop movement in car park and humps. liken this to driver with bad clutch handling.

i noticed also that the clutch is engaged when the brake is pressed only lightly. press slightly deeper then you notice less vibration at stop traffic, as the car goes into neutral idle.

i hope my car stays this way: obedient. i owned a fiesta powershift before and had the clutch pack changed at 25000km as it is fully weared out (under warranty). Before I change the pack, I always have grinding sound in between first and second gear.. and it gets more often.
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post Dec 31 2014, 01:19 PM

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Hello,

There a long crack on my windscreen(Ford Focus), i have to change the windscreen anyone can recommend reliable/ cheap place in Selangor or KL area. The price is RM3K in Ford centres. Appreciate your inputs.

Thanks
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post Jan 2 2015, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(sashgeet @ Dec 31 2014, 01:19 PM)
Hello,

There a long crack on my windscreen(Ford Focus), i have to change the windscreen anyone can recommend reliable/ cheap place in Selangor or KL area.  The price is RM3K in Ford centres.  Appreciate your inputs.

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I think it can be claimed by insurance. The insurance company has panel with some reliable workshop to replace windscreen smile.gif
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post Jan 4 2015, 09:53 AM

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Dear all, after my first service @ 9825 km in odo now I feel my fofo is more jerky especially in stop go traffic. It gets worst on uphill. It's like the jerks you feel when the car doesn't want to downshift when going uphill. Anyone else has this problem?

In high speed no issues at all.


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post Jan 4 2015, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(seshatri @ Jan 4 2015, 09:53 AM)
Dear all, after my first service @ 9825 km in odo now I feel my fofo is more jerky especially in stop go traffic. It gets worst on uphill. It's like the jerks you feel when the car doesn't want to downshift when going uphill. Anyone else has this problem?

In high speed no issues at all.
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I have experienced the same thing. The jerky characteristic of the Powershift dual clutch transmission is erratic as you won't know when the jerky acceleration will come by.

FWIW in my experience :-

Mileage
0 - 1,500km = Bad jerking, acceleration at low speed/stop go traffic is not smooth
1,500km - 8,000km = Minimal jerking, smooth acceleration at low speed
8,000km - 10,000km = Moderate to bad jerking
>10,000km = Erratic jerking. Sometimes smooth acceleration, sometimes bad jerking.


If you feel the jerks are too bad or the Powershift transmission is not behaving up to your expectations, then you may visit the service centre to have it sorted out. They will usually perform a software update if there are no serious issues with the vehicle in terms of mechanical parts.


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post Jan 4 2015, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 4 2015, 12:36 PM)
I have experienced the same thing. The jerky characteristic of the Powershift dual clutch transmission is erratic as you won't know when the jerky acceleration will come by.

FWIW in my experience :-

Mileage
0 - 1,500km = Bad jerking, acceleration at low speed/stop go traffic is not smooth
1,500km - 8,000km = Minimal jerking, smooth acceleration at low speed
8,000km - 10,000km = Moderate to bad jerking
>10,000km = Erratic jerking. Sometimes smooth acceleration, sometimes bad jerking.
If you feel the jerks are too bad or the Powershift transmission is not behaving up to your expectations, then you may visit the service centre to have it sorted out. They will usually perform a software update if there are no serious issues with the vehicle in terms of mechanical parts.
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Hi, I read through their brochure stating its normal for the jerking for the first 2,000km (Ford calls this Break-In Period).
I am interested to get a car which will last 9 years and not so much of hassle. Am interested on FoFo however with all the complaints in this forum, I am afraid the investment will be huge beyond the 5 years e.g. clutch pack change and etc. Am seriously having second thought of this. Most importantly, will the car breakdown half way along the highway? Anyone experienced this? May all the FoFo experienced user/sifu reckon if this is worth for 9 years... Arigato! =)
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QUOTE(boonheng87 @ Jan 4 2015, 07:20 PM)
Hi, I read through their brochure stating its normal for the jerking for the first 2,000km (Ford calls this Break-In Period).
I am interested to get a car which will last 9 years and not so much of hassle. Am interested on FoFo however with all the complaints in this forum, I am afraid the investment will be huge beyond the 5 years e.g. clutch pack change and etc. Am seriously having second thought of this. Most importantly, will the car breakdown half way along the highway?  Anyone experienced this? May all the FoFo experienced user/sifu reckon if this is worth for 9 years... Arigato! =)
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Interesting that the Ford Focus brochure now states that it is normal for the car to jerk within the first 2,000km. This was not previously shown in the brochure.

As for your concerns, the car won't break down along the highway. The jerking ONLY occurs at low speed acceleration ie. crawling stop go traffic, usually when the gear upshifts from 1 to 2. The jerks may not bother some people but there may be other folks who are more bothered about the jerks. Personally, if the jerks are minor, they are fine to me. But the jerks can be more serious at times which can turn out to be quite a nuisance.

Apart from the jerks there is a grinding sound at low speed acceleration too which is apparently evident when the vehicle is accelerating up a steep slope.

As for the car breaking down along the highway, doubt it will ever happen. If it does happen, it will be the transmission that is overheating. In this case the display will prompt the driver to stop the vehicle and rest for 8 minutes, something like that. Sometimes the display will show the transmission overheating if the car is on constant stop go stop go traffic along a steep slope or a long traffic jam etc. I had been in this situation 3 to 4 times but fortunately the prompt message went off after a while and I drove the car as usual after that.

I received news that the new updated Focus will likely be launched sometime middle or end of this year. If you can wait, I do think this model is the one that is worth looking at. It appears that the automatic transmission in the upcoming Focus will be revised to a completely new transmission *(which may not show the undesirable characteristics of the current Powershift transmission).
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 4 2015, 07:36 PM)
Interesting that the Ford Focus brochure now states that it is normal for the car to jerk within the first 2,000km. This was not previously shown in the brochure.

As for your concerns, the car won't break down along the highway. The jerking ONLY occurs at low speed acceleration ie. crawling stop go traffic, usually when the gear upshifts from 1 to 2. The jerks may not bother some people but there may be other folks who are more bothered about the jerks. Personally, if the jerks are minor, they are fine to me. But the jerks can be more serious at times which can turn out to be quite a nuisance.

Apart from the jerks there is a grinding sound at low speed acceleration too which is apparently evident when the vehicle is accelerating up a steep slope.

As for the car breaking down along the highway, doubt it will ever happen. If it does happen, it will be the transmission that is overheating. In this case the display will prompt the driver to stop the vehicle and rest for 8 minutes, something like that. Sometimes the display will show the transmission overheating if the car is on constant stop go stop go traffic along a steep slope or a long traffic jam etc. I had been in this situation 3 to 4 times but fortunately the prompt message went off after a while and I drove the car as usual after that.

I received news that the new updated Focus will likely be launched sometime middle or end of this year. If you can wait, I do think this model is the one that is worth looking at. It appears that the automatic transmission in the upcoming Focus will be revised to a completely new transmission *(which may not show the undesirable characteristics of the current Powershift transmission).
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Thx bro for your inputs.. FoFo is having above 10k rebates for 2014 car.. The huge rebates, was thinking if its worth it? The car it's for my parents to drive for some time and they will be driving around town area so I believe the low speed will be much utilized which will experience all the jerking and shudders.. Have you tried to reprogram to the latest update? Is your car the newer version (usb at armrest) or the older ones (usb at the front cabin)? I was thinking that if purchase it, might as well to reprogram and etc right away? =)
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post Jan 5 2015, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(boonheng87 @ Jan 4 2015, 07:50 PM)
Thx bro for your inputs.. FoFo is having above 10k rebates for 2014 car.. The huge rebates, was thinking if its worth it? The car it's for my parents to drive for some time and they will be driving around town area so I believe the low speed will be much utilized which will experience all the jerking and shudders.. Have you tried to reprogram to the latest update? Is your car the newer version (usb at armrest) or the older ones (usb at the front cabin)? I was thinking that if purchase it, might as well to reprogram and etc right away? =)
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It really depends but I think it would not be worth taking the risk. Older folks may not favour the jerky drive at low speed. This car is more suitable for those who like to drive a bit faster than usual.

The USB socket is in the front passenger's glove box of my car. The software update doesn't really help much in reducing the jerks. The update may reduce the jerks but they will eventually come back. In other words, the minor jerks during low speed acceleration are a trait or character of the car and are inherent in the vehicle. I believe they cannot be eliminated completely.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 5 2015, 05:32 PM)
It really depends but I think it would not be worth taking the risk. Older folks may not favour the jerky drive at low speed. This car is more suitable for those who like to drive a bit faster than usual.

The USB socket is in the front passenger's glove box of my car. The software update doesn't really help much in reducing the jerks. The update may reduce the jerks but they will eventually come back. In other words, the minor jerks during low speed acceleration are a trait or character of the car and are inherent in the vehicle. I believe they cannot be eliminated completely.
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Tq so much for the inputs. =)
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Dec 27 2014, 09:30 PM)
Good to know. When you mentioned "Recently i feel the gear shift jerking & vibration becoming worse", I presume the car is jerking when accelerating at low speeds. Hopefully the guys can resolve the problem for you soon. Would appreciate if you can update if it happens that they can reduce the jerks and vibration, whatever they are and not just give the usual "it's normal the car is supposed to behave this way due to the dual-clutch transmission" excuse.
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Just sent for transmission/clutch checking at Trio Mantap Taman Kencana this morning. They checked with the laptop/data logger for 1+ hour & the guy said based on the result it's normal. hmm.gif I told him the driving experience is different from what the computer shows. He told me the same old story..this is DCT...automated manual...blablabla & it's normal to behave as such. i told him i experienced maybe slippage-like symptom causing the engine vibrates during upshift as if it's in wrong gear & i'm sure it's not normal. I showed him the photo of oil patch/leakage near the gearbox/clutch & insist him to change the clutch pack. Finally he agreed & said the waiting list is 3 MONTHS. shakehead.gif Have to accept & wait. No choice
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QUOTE(wishndream @ Jan 7 2015, 08:12 PM)
Just sent for transmission/clutch checking at Trio Mantap Taman Kencana this morning. They checked with the laptop/data logger for 1+ hour & the guy said based on the result it's normal.  hmm.gif  I told him the driving experience is different from what the computer shows. He told me the same old story..this is DCT...automated manual...blablabla & it's normal to behave as such. i told him i experienced maybe slippage-like symptom causing the engine vibrates during upshift as if it's in wrong gear & i'm sure it's not normal. I showed him the photo of oil patch/leakage near the gearbox/clutch & insist him to change the clutch pack. Finally he agreed & said the waiting list is 3 MONTHS.  shakehead.gif Have to accept & wait. No choice
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Thanks for the update. 3 months waiting period for the clutch pack. Looks like quite a number of cars are going through this clutch pack replacement due to the jerking or oil leakage problem. It is either the clutch pack is defective(which only certain batches are affected), or it is a design flaw in the clutch pack in that all clutch packs in the current Focus are defective. Yikes!

My car is 1 year 4 months old, so there is another 3 year 8 months left in the warranty for something to fail(touch wood).

I wonder if all Focus models are affected by this clutch pack (severe jerking and leakage) issue? May I ask how old is your car? So far I have read on this forum that 3 persons have had the clutch pack on their Focus replaced. Nairud is one if I"m not mistaken.
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Owner of FoFo sport+ for close to 2 months.
Will I recommend a friend to get a FoFo, er, not really laugh.gif Nice car to drive, but gearbox is not nice.
After long journey, I can feel the car is super not smooth. Grinding sound will occurs.
Few times I heard some soft weird sound after going through speed bump. But doesn't occur everytime.
2 days ago, there were rattling sound too. KNS... But it doesn't occurs everytime as well.

Now I'm going very slow at uneven roads (ie LRT construction areas)
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Ford UK is launching the new Focus early this year in Britain. Not too sure if we will see the new Focus here in Malaysia by end of the year.

Changes in the interior :-

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NEW MODEL
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New Paddle Shifters:-
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post Jan 8 2015, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(F1meteor @ Jan 8 2015, 12:11 PM)
Owner of FoFo sport+ for close to 2 months.
Will I recommend a friend to get a FoFo, er, not really laugh.gif Nice car to drive, but gearbox is not nice.
After long journey, I can feel the car is super not smooth. Grinding sound will occurs.
Few times I heard some soft weird sound after going through speed bump. But doesn't occur everytime.
2 days ago, there were rattling sound too. KNS... But it doesn't occurs everytime as well.

Now I'm going very slow at uneven roads (ie LRT construction areas)
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Grinding sound and jerking at low speed are already normal in the current Focus. Level of acceptance will be dependent on the severity of the jerks and grinding.

NVH particularly sound from the suspension is not so good. Interior NVH as in rattling, similarly some minor rattling somewhere around the steering wheel. The Focus has fair NVH but the minor rattling sound spoils it a bit.
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suspension is firmer so minor rattling cannot b avoid but in my case is very very good, but not comfortable in bad road condition

QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jan 8 2015, 01:00 PM)
Grinding sound and jerking at low speed are already normal in the current Focus. Level of acceptance will be dependent on the severity of the jerks and grinding.

NVH particularly sound from the suspension is not so good. Interior NVH as in rattling, similarly some minor rattling somewhere around the steering wheel. The Focus has fair NVH but the minor rattling sound spoils it a bit.
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Argh! Spent 120k on a car but not as smooth as my previous city.
I was hoping for a better car.
Obviously FoFo is superior in every aspect comparing with my previous ride, just that I really don't like the un-smoothness of FoFo.

I am satisfied with FoFo, already know all these issues before I made my purchase, but I can still whine right laugh.gif

Too much of negativity, time for some positive feedback
1. Whoever said the ford is small, it's not true. I can fetch 5 adults comfortably.
2. Very stable at high speed, tested up to 160km/h laugh.gif
3. Nice pick up speed. Well, Golf TSI is better. HAHAHA
4. No give face to Myvi 1.5 extreme anymore. Previously they always cucuk me when I'm in my City.
5. Very good FC at highway cruising. Early morning rush was terrible tongue.gif

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QUOTE(wingwp @ Jan 8 2015, 01:56 PM)
suspension is firmer so minor rattling cannot b avoid but in my case is very very good, but not comfortable in bad road condition
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Yes, the suspension is very good in terms of providing a good balance between handling and comfort. Only in bad road conditions ie. uneven road surface, the suspension produces some annoying noises.

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