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 Is the bubble finally bursting? 2014, V2

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SUSjolokia
post Jan 16 2014, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(aberdeen @ Jan 16 2014, 12:11 PM)
Why not, if I find a good deal. Just 3 mths ago, received sms early morning from Setia Ecohill, if interested to book, bring along RM20k cheque...I went with my cheque hoping to get one of their terrace house...too late the crowd already too big...all terrace sold out by noon...just within a few hours! The terrace selling from 400+k, I think is a good deal, heard the 2nd phase launch..the terrace will be from 600+k
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Meaning u didn't buy, another empty talk..lol

That why I said all these BBB warrior only cakap kosong, ask other to buy sendiri kecut. .typical Kangkung mentality. .sigh
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post Jan 16 2014, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Jan 16 2014, 12:19 PM)
Meaning u didn't buy, another empty talk..lol

That why I said all these BBB warrior only cakap kosong,  ask other to buy sendiri kecut. .typical Kangkung mentality. .sigh
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You are just another troll....why people like you can't have a meaningful discussion?
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post Jan 16 2014, 12:57 PM

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Manyak api over here. Mod gonna shut down thread soon. sweat.gif
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post Jan 16 2014, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(aberdeen @ Jan 16 2014, 12:26 PM)
You are just another troll....why people like you can't have a meaningful discussion?
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From posting long necked people photo to make fun on other & claiming this & that end up never bought anything is indeed a meaningful discussion ?

Look at the mirror & surely u will see a "long necked troll"...lol


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post Jan 16 2014, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Jan 16 2014, 12:57 PM)
Manyak api over here. Mod gonna shut down thread soon. sweat.gif
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It's a debate of to invest or not to invest in 2014.
There is no right or wrong answer, just different opinion.
Those who have not invested want the price to drop, and they are waiting now with cash.
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post Jan 16 2014, 01:09 PM

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Phase 1 - 400k, phase 2 - 600k. Did their contractors suddenly charged higher and they could not resist? Did the price of materials suddenly jumped so much? Did they have to acquire new land at higher prices? Was the first phase heavily and generously discounted?
Looks like costs increase with every new phase. Developers should lie to their suppliers and tell them its not for a new phase but for a fresh new project lol ok i jest.
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post Jan 16 2014, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Jan 16 2014, 01:02 PM)
From posting long necked people photo to make fun on other & claiming this & that end up never bought anything is indeed a meaningful discussion ?

Look at the mirror & surely u will see a "long necked troll"...lol
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Don't waste my time....no point arguing with a troll
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post Jan 16 2014, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Wiredx @ Jan 16 2014, 01:09 PM)
Phase 1 - 400k, phase 2 - 600k. Did their contractors suddenly charged higher and they could not resist? Did the price of materials suddenly jumped so much? Did they have to acquire new land at higher prices? Was the first phase heavily and generously discounted?
Looks like costs increase with every new phase. Developers should lie to their suppliers and tell them its not for a new phase but for a fresh new project lol ok i jest.
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Back to basic, if u study economics, here is the theory:
1) individuals trying to maximizing their utilities/satisfactions. Individuals are statisfied if they can pay less for more.
2) firms tend to maximizing their profit. Most developers are profit driven even they are GLCs.
End of the day, willing buyers willing sellers.
The anti speculation policies from Bnm do cut down the speculation demand to a great extend though.



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post Jan 16 2014, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jan 16 2014, 01:16 PM)
Back to basic, if u study economics, here is the theory:
1) individuals trying to maximizing their utilities/satisfactions. Individuals are statisfied if they can pay less for more. 
2) firms tend to maximizing their profit. Most developers are profit driven even they are GLCs.
End of the day, willing buyers willing sellers.
The anti speculation policies from Bnm do cut down the speculation demand to a great extend though.
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I said 'I jest'.
Of course its point 2. There is almost no shortage of willing buyers in the primary market if various incentives are given. These incentives are missing from the secondary market and with obvious effect.
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post Jan 16 2014, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(Wiredx @ Jan 16 2014, 01:09 PM)
Phase 1 - 400k, phase 2 - 600k. Did their contractors suddenly charged higher and they could not resist? Did the price of materials suddenly jumped so much? Did they have to acquire new land at higher prices? Was the first phase heavily and generously discounted?
Looks like costs increase with every new phase. Developers should lie to their suppliers and tell them its not for a new phase but for a fresh new project lol ok i jest.
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Please talk something that you know better with a fact and figure. Phase 1 and 2 different price because different size and built up bro.
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QUOTE(cooleq @ Jan 16 2014, 01:36 PM)
Please talk something that you know better with a fact and figure. Phase 1 and 2 different price because different size and built up bro.
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Ok i just used that as a sweeping example. But honestly do you think they are that much more expensive to build? Unless ph1 is a dsl while ph2 is a semi d? Sure, which developer doesnt love profits. I do too bro.
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QUOTE(Wiredx @ Jan 16 2014, 01:43 PM)
Ok i just used that as a sweeping example. But honestly do you think they are that much more expensive to build? Unless ph1 is a dsl while ph2 is a semi d? Sure, which developer doesnt love profits. I do too bro.
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Of course much more expensive bro. Bigger build up mean quantity of material is more and it's reflex to the total cost. Bigger land area also reflex to the cost in acquire the land. Sum others factor to consider like location wise and the direction of the unit.
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post Jan 16 2014, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(aberdeen @ Jan 16 2014, 12:11 PM)
Why not, if I find a good deal. Just 3 mths ago, received sms early morning from Setia Ecohill, if interested to book, bring along RM20k cheque...I went with my cheque hoping to get one of their terrace house...too late the crowd already too big...all terrace sold out by noon...just within a few hours! The terrace selling from 400+k, I think is a good deal, heard the 2nd phase launch..the terrace will be from 600+k
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thanks for response.

i wud think all prop investors will not disagree with the first part.

as to which ones are out there now, which ones qualify as "good deal", that's the part for all sorts of disagreements.

i for one, do not see that one u mention as a good deal for investment. for own stay, ready to stay there, fine.

in general, i think most prop investors are just sitting it out at this time, some busy disposing what is at hand to ease cash position for the next round which may come soon or not soon at all.

it's tough to invest when prices are falling or easing - to catch a falling knife, so they say. in bursa, few buy when prices are falling which is why they fall fast. same with currency, buy that currency that is appreciating like usd now, not rupiahs and rupees that have been falling for the last year!
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QUOTE(cooleq @ Jan 16 2014, 01:58 PM)
Of course much more expensive bro. Bigger build up mean quantity of material is more and it's reflex to the total cost. Bigger land area also reflex to the cost in acquire the land. Sum others factor to consider like location wise and the direction of the unit.
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If phase 2 is bigger land area, higher quality materials, etc, isn't comparing with phase 1 is like orange to apple?

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post Jan 16 2014, 03:01 PM

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what hppend when it burst?
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post Jan 16 2014, 03:10 PM

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Burst just let it burst, "How many 10 years do u have in your life", enjoy the show whether Good or Bad. "Hong Hong liet liet" 轰轰烈烈 to do it in one round. after 18 years be a tough guy again.
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QUOTE(cooleq @ Jan 16 2014, 01:36 PM)
Please talk something that you know better with a fact and figure. Phase 1 and 2 different price because different size and built up bro.
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Not really. As the matter of face most newer phases were launched smaller in size wor.


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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Jan 16 2014, 03:11 PM)
Not really. As the matter of face most newer phases were launched smaller in size wor.
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Discussion on the fact and figure that we are talking about is by developer SP Setia in Setia Eco Hill.
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post Jan 16 2014, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(aberdeen @ Jan 16 2014, 10:53 AM)
If you want to succeed as a property investor, you must get in the game. If are living a life as a spectator, waiting for the elusive bubble to burst, you may have missed a lot of opportunities already. How long have you been waiting...3 years ago people has been talking about the bubble going to burst, and still talking...it may happen or it may not..how long more..

These are the people still waiting...

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You want to wait until your neck look like this..

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Don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting that everyone should just blindly jump in and grab whatever properties you can get your hand on...you still need to do your homework...buy objectively, not on emotion..no panic buying, no excessive greed..must be within your budget, don't get over-extended with debt or over leverage, do due diligence...and so forth..

One of the biggest mistake for investors is waiting too long to start investing in property, whether for own stay or as investment.

What is your view? This is only for discussion purpose... please don't overreact...thank you.
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Brace yourselves. What they predicted to happen years ago, the turning point already happened months back with the policy changes. Also the effect of tapering is positive for USA when it's economy is growing but highly negative for emerging. The full effect will probably be seen in months to a year when tapering increases. HK and sing coming down so are the other emerging markets, not a wise thing to go against momentum. Plus all the weak flippers, give it a year or two, they might just pull down the tent on all the "investors".
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QUOTE(cooleq @ Jan 16 2014, 03:16 PM)
Discussion on the fact and figure that we are talking about is by developer SP Setia in Setia Eco Hill.
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Careful lo...the SEH thread very hot and spicy one rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif



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