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post Feb 12 2014, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(abundai @ Feb 12 2014, 01:35 AM)
thats logic...if the item is expensive, it wouldnt be wise to use usps mail...
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please check first what is the total cost for both our order combined. And what courier they are going to use. If using USPS, I think can take the risk. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Wildbeard @ Feb 12 2014, 08:20 AM)
This was the sales guy telling on the day I collected the car. The next dayi drove back tommy hometown and occasionally hit 6k rpm while overtaking.
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normally I only believe service guys up to 70% and will still check and verify further. no offense to sales but whatever a sales guy tell me I will just keep at the back of my head.

for my Fxt I let it run in until 2k. but with occasional short pushes. after 2k I already begin to test the behavior at wide open throttle. but of course not ripping 200km/h from kl to Ipoh kinda thing. by 3k I already do whatever I want.

by the way bro what Colour is ur Fxt?

saw bronze yesterday near ta man megah.

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post Feb 12 2014, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(joker98 @ Feb 12 2014, 09:23 AM)
normally I only believe service guys up to 70% and will still check and verify further. no offense to sales but whatever a sales guy tell me I will just keep at the back of my head.

for my Fxt I let it run in until 2k. but with occasional short pushes. after 2k I already begin to test the behavior at wide open throttle. but of course not ripping 200km/h from kl to Ipoh kinda thing. by 3k I already do whatever I want.

by the way bro what Colour is ur Fxt?

saw bronze yesterday near ta man megah.
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Mine is black pearl metallic

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post Feb 12 2014, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Cynox @ Feb 11 2014, 10:08 PM)
just common sense  sweat.gif - not only for Forrester, every new engine should not be race until properly breaking in.
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Ahhh..the breaking in controversial...some interesting articles about the break in secrets here.

Personally, l would go with the manufacturer recommendations. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 12 2014, 12:20 PM

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Guys, been reading a lot on the Internet on our fxt. Some says it is at 280hp, some days 253hp and motor image says 240hp. So which one is it?

Also our suspension seems to be sports tuned right? Cos my mom complain ride is bumpy at the back seat hahahahahaha but I feel awesome on the drivers seat...

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QUOTE(Wildbeard @ Feb 12 2014, 12:20 PM)
Guys, been reading a lot on the Internet on our fxt. Some says it is at 280hp, some days 253hp and motor image says 240hp. So which one is it?

Also our suspension seems to be sports tuned right? Cos my mom complain ride is bumpy at the back seat hahahahahaha but I feel awesome on the drivers seat...
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Japan 280
US 250
rest of the world 240
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post Feb 12 2014, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(joker98 @ Feb 11 2014, 02:40 PM)
I am on Petron 97 but with additives.
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Is RON 97 really required? With additives some more?

QUOTE(Cynox @ Feb 11 2014, 05:06 PM)
thanks for the info.  wow... so total cost will be USD80 x 3.38 + 35% tax RM94.64 + USD30 shipping = RM466.44 for 1 set of of the mud flap.  rolleyes.gif
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Tax is actually calculated on CIF cost. That means inclusive of shipping. sweat.gif

Also, it's not 35% total tax but rather 25% + 10% compounded. sweat.gif

Therefore 118 with 25% import tax = 147.5

147.5 with 10% sales tax = 162.25

That's 162.25 x 3.38 = RM 548.41

QUOTE(Cynox @ Feb 11 2014, 07:23 PM)
Some say because of the courier use - UPS parcel will have higher chance of getting tax than US Post.  Kinda true for me - all my UPS parcel kena tax, no matter the amount.  So far item send via slow US Post no tax.  unsure.gif  Maybe because items sent via USPS consider low value.  tongue.gif
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Used to be like that. But not anymore leh. USPS parcels also kena like mad liao.

I think they go for location. KL/PJ ones they are more diligent. If address outside of KL/PJ, they are less strict. sad.gif

QUOTE(abundai @ Feb 12 2014, 01:35 AM)
thats logic...if the item is expensive, it wouldnt be wise to use usps mail...
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Actually I've used USPS as carrier for many of my high priced items with no problems. As with any items shipped, they need to be packed nicely. Just the customs is a problem now. sad.gif

QUOTE(Wildbeard @ Feb 12 2014, 08:20 AM)
This was the sales guy telling on the day I collected the car. The next dayi drove back tommy hometown and occasionally hit 6k rpm while overtaking.
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I don't see the reason to hit 6000 rpm just to overtake? Should have a lot of bottom end power.
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post Feb 12 2014, 12:50 PM

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Can't wait for the ECU modification to be available and drive fxt with 280hp.
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post Feb 12 2014, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 12 2014, 12:45 PM)
Is RON 97 really required? With additives some more?
Tax is actually calculated on CIF cost. That means inclusive of shipping.  sweat.gif

Also, it's not 35% total tax but rather 25% + 10% compounded.  sweat.gif

Therefore 118 with 25% import tax = 147.5

147.5 with 10% sales tax = 162.25

That's 162.25 x 3.38 = RM 548.41
Used to be like that. But not anymore leh. USPS parcels also kena like mad liao.

I think they go for location. KL/PJ ones they are more diligent. If address outside of KL/PJ, they are less strict. sad.gif
Actually I've used USPS as carrier for many of my high priced items with no problems. As with any items shipped, they need to be packed nicely. Just the customs is a problem now.  sad.gif
I don't see the reason to hit 6000 rpm just to overtake? Should have a lot of bottom end power.
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RON 97 is not a requirement. But if you want maximum performance/power, you need it for this engine. There is no problem running 95 on it, just not for maximum performance.

Long term wise, I can't tell yet on the effects of RON 95 on this DI engine. But this DIT engine runs a relatively high boost even at stock. For comparison, the previous Forester stock boost target is 0.8bar max. This new FXT sets target boost at 1.3bar. Of course partially due to the fact that it is DI engine etc. But still it runs pretty high boost.

If your car is stock with no mods, the use of 97 will only give you marginal feel of improvement and definitely you will feel it is a waste of money.
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QUOTE(joker98 @ Feb 12 2014, 01:55 PM)
RON 97 is not a requirement. But if you want maximum performance/power, you need it for this engine. There is no problem running 95 on it, just not for maximum performance.

Long term wise, I can't tell yet on the effects of RON 95 on this DI engine. But this DIT engine runs a relatively high boost even at stock. For comparison, the previous Forester stock boost target is 0.8bar max. This new FXT sets target boost at 1.3bar. Of course partially due to the fact that it is DI engine etc. But still it runs pretty high boost.

If your car is stock with no mods, the use of 97 will only give you marginal feel of improvement and definitely you will feel it is a waste of money.
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I've recently switched over to RON 97 and used it for about a month already after using 95 for the past 4 - 5 months.. my experience is that it gives a smoother acceleration and therefore a quieter ride on my XV.
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QUOTE(Wildbeard @ Feb 12 2014, 12:50 PM)
Can't wait for the ECU modification to be available and drive fxt with 280hp.
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It is not going to be easy to to reliably hit that 280bhp with our fuel quality here. Without mods to your exhaust and air intake, I would say that a more realistic target would be 265-270bhp. As mentioned in my previous boost, target boost is 1.3bar. That is pretty high and also mentioned by some tuner in Ozzie that the boost sensor has an upper range of 1.5bar. That would make tuning slightly difficult.

CVT also will need some care and consideration, in my opinion.


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post Feb 12 2014, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(Maxiii @ Feb 12 2014, 02:00 PM)
I've recently switched over to RON 97 and used it for about a month already after using 95 for the past 4 - 5 months.. my experience is that it gives a smoother acceleration and therefore a quieter ride on my XV.
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i gotta try this on my next fill up.... and definitely my drive to Samui in April....
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QUOTE(abundai @ Feb 12 2014, 02:18 PM)
i gotta try this on my next fill up....  and definitely my drive to Samui in April....
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You need to drive around half tank before ECU will readjust the fuel trim. So don't expect immediate improvement. Don't have too high an expectation on massive improvement as well.
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You need to drive around half tank before ECU will readjust the fuel trim. So don't expect immediate improvement. Don't have too high an expectation on massive improvement as well.
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my colleague said, although the 97 cost more, but he got a better milage..
is this true?
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QUOTE(Maxiii @ Feb 12 2014, 02:00 PM)
I've recently switched over to RON 97 and used it for about a month already after using 95 for the past 4 - 5 months.. my experience is that it gives a smoother acceleration and therefore a quieter ride on my XV.
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petronas? shell? petron? caltex? or bhp?

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QUOTE(abundai @ Feb 12 2014, 02:34 PM)
my colleague said, although the 97 cost more, but he got a better milage..
is this true?
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Personal experience, slightly only.. gain extra 20 - 30km per tank.
Shell Vpower (Red) lagi worst mileage 330km+ per tank (normal 420+km), but the power.. wooohooo, the price that time is RM3.50 per L, Ron 97 RM2.70/L, ron95 not available that time.
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QUOTE(abundai @ Feb 12 2014, 02:34 PM)
my colleague said, although the 97 cost more, but he got a better milage..
is this true?
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Personally, I would never apply any mileage patterns from other cars or persons on my own. Because it just depends on too many factors in my opinion.

Engine type, gearbox, driving pattern, engine tune etc.

But if your engine tune allows for improved ignition advance timing and leaner Air Fuel Ratio for RON 97 or higher RON fuel, 'technically' you should get better mileage with all other factors equal.


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Hi all
Would like to ask the FXT owners here a few things, as I am interested in getting one soon to replace a souped up car of mine. Can I know a few items below, if it is not too difficult for u guys?

1) How is the servicing by MI in malaysia? Any problems with terrible service or crap attitudes from them (heard some horror stories but unsure if they are authentic or not). Are they capable of taking care of the new FB engine, or more prone to giving excuses?
2) Any problems with the car specifically? Read something on the clamp issue, but not sure what is it about. How about the CVT box (can it withstand the punishment of the high torque of the turbo) and the DI engine (do we need to run RON97 all the time?)?
3) What is the rim size, PCD and holes for the rims? I want to transfer my forged rims over, but unsure if it will fit (its a CE28N Genesis).
4) Any other issues/niggles which I should know about, part and parcel of owning this car?

I am actually more concerned about after sales servicing, as there are not a lot of Subaru service centers around Malaysia, and I am not sure if MI is capable of taking care of the latest FB engine or cars here in Malaysia. What do owners like you guys think?

Thanks a lot!
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QUOTE(Nitrous @ Feb 12 2014, 03:43 PM)
Hi all
Would like to ask the FXT owners here a few things, as I am interested in getting one soon to replace a souped up car of mine. Can I know a few items below, if it is not too difficult for u guys?

1) How is the servicing by MI in malaysia? Any problems with terrible service or crap attitudes from them (heard some horror stories but unsure if they are authentic or not). Are they capable of taking care of the new FB engine, or more prone to giving excuses?
2) Any problems with the car specifically? Read something on the clamp issue, but not sure what is it about. How about the CVT box (can it withstand the punishment of the high torque of the turbo) and the DI engine (do we need to run RON97 all the time?)?
3) What is the rim size, PCD and holes for the rims? I want to transfer my forged rims over, but unsure if it will fit (its a CE28N Genesis).
4) Any other issues/niggles which I should know about, part and parcel of owning this car?

I am actually more concerned about after sales servicing, as there are not a lot of Subaru service centers around Malaysia, and I am not sure if MI is capable of taking care of the latest FB engine or cars here in Malaysia. What do owners like you guys think?

Thanks a lot!
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1) For normal servicing, I have not had any issues to warrant a complaint. But nothing to make me jump for joy either.

2) Clamp issues exist and may cause some cars to experience knocking when pulling hard. Knocking also may be related to tuning. The CVT is ok, and it tends to limit your off the line acceleration. But once on the move, the car is fast. Of course not GOLF R kinda fast.

3) Ori rims are 18inchx7j 48mm offset PCD5x100

4) You need to really get the hang of the CVT to drive this car fast. It is very different to any auto or DSGs out there when you try to drive it fast. Slam the pedal down and it will be slow and most likely to protect the CVT. You need to adjust your right foot along the RPM range to bring out the max. power. If you are used to other turbo cars with DSGs you will initially think that the FXT is lethargic. But once you learn how to handle the pedal, then the CVT makes sense all of a sudden.

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QUOTE(joker98 @ Feb 12 2014, 04:10 PM)
1) For normal servicing, I have not had any issues to warrant a complaint. But nothing to make me jump for joy either.

2) Clamp issues exist and may cause some cars to experience knocking when pulling hard. Knocking also may be related to tuning. But after the clamps were tightened, my knocking problem improved tremendously and the engine is really sweet. The CVT is ok, and it tends to limit your off the line acceleration. But once on the move, the car is fast. Of course not GOLF R kinda fast.

3)  Ori rims are 18inchx7j 48mm offset PCD5x100

4) You need to really get the hang of the CVT to drive this car fast. It is very different to any auto or DSGs out there when you try to drive it fast. Slam the pedal down and it will be slow and most likely to protect the CVT. You need to adjust your right foot along the RPM range to bring out the max. power. If you are used to other turbo cars with DSGs you will initially think that the FXT is lethargic. But once you learn how to handle the pedal, then the CVT makes sense all of a sudden.
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Thanks a lot for the reply.
My rims are 18X8J PCD5X11.43, looks like i gotta get a new set of rims then.
I actually did test the car previously, both my wife and myself quite liked it (gotta retire from souped up ah beng cars), and it does have the space we need, and the power/nimbleness which belies its size. The only worrying part is the after sales, seems like it is just a normal run-of-the-mill service centers then.
The clamp issue, is it an engine part which is supposed to clamp the engine down? There are a lot of clamps in the engine bay, but unsure which clamp are you guys describing here. I do not pull hard, but it is disconcerting to know that something might be wrong. Can it be fixed by tightening the clamp ?

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