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TSjinyee80
post Jul 3 2006, 10:17 AM, updated 7y ago

Jinyee? Me lor =)
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Hi pretty women,


I have browsed through most of the topics in the girl's club and seen no topic related to ACNE, so hereby I create one, therefore we have a place to talk about this issue.

I developed some break out, occassionally and its really annoying. You see, some of the teenagers, develop acne and one of the reason is they simply use those skincare products which make the condition worser. Perhaps, some of us too, using a wrong product and perhaps some experience personnel might provide some decent opinion on how to deal with that.

Having acne is not only an external issue, its also internally. When I was in high school and started to develop acne, I felt so depressed and thought of gona kill myself because I'm so ugly. Therefore, anyone might share their past experience here, perhaps to calm current acne sufferers down.

Anyhow, when it comes to acne, the hyperpigmentation or scars will follow. Any personnel with experience in dealing with these might also inputs.

Thanks for all!



Jinyee

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Aug 27 2006, 11:18 AM
TSjinyee80
post Jul 4 2006, 10:17 PM

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Recommended products

Cetaphil Cleanser
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Latest updated version

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Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser is great for daily makeup removal or as part of a skincare regimen to treat the dryness caused by topical medications used in the treatment of acne, fine lines and wrinkles. Originally formulated for dermatologists, it is gentle on your skin and sensitive to your skin's needs. Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser will not strip the skin of natural protective oils or emollients, or disturb the skin's natural pH balance. It is fragrance-free and non-comedogenic, making it an excellent choice for daily facial cleansing.

Ingredients: Water, Cetyl Alcohol, Propylene Glycol, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, Stearyl Alcohol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Butylparaben.


PanOxyl. It's RM16++ at Guardian. (DISCONTINUED IN MALAYSIA)
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Thanks to hunnylis for the photos Please take note it is a 2.5% version.

Benzac 2.5% ALTERNATIVE (but quite tough to get also, you could get the bigger tube version in overseas, Please PM me if you intend to get as my friend is running a pharmacy!)
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(Thanks to redbubblegirl for the info)

Neutrogena moisturizer

There are basically 3 version of Neutrogena moisturizer in the market. We shall have a brief description for the usage.

(a) Neutrogena oil-free moisture for sensitive skin - NMSS
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This moisturizer is specially dedicated to those who have really sensitive skin. Those who easily get itchiness and dryness should use this.

(b) Neutrogena oil-free moisture for combination skin - NMCS
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This is a good moisturizer for those who prefer to use moisturizer in day and night time ( in short cannot live without moisturizer ). While it moisturises the skin, the silicone property in the moisturizer will help in soaking up excessive sebum oil from your skin, therefore it will minimize the 'shineness' of your face.

Highly recommended to those who has oily skin and expose to less sunlight.

© Neutrogena oil-free moisture for SPF15 - NMSPF
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As the title said, this moisturizer is meant for SPF. This moisturizer should be used in the daytime esepcially to those who exposed much to daylight. A thin layer will do.


Overall, one can use NMSPF in daytime, while using NMCS at night. Its very flexible. Only go for NMSS when you really have sensitive skin.

Recommended regimen

Morning

Cleanse -> Moisturize ( if you are frequently exposed to air-cond otherwise not necessary )

(EDITED@05 May 2009) - I reckon to wipe the skin by applying the Cetaphil Gentle Cleanser on facial cotton pad. Wipe and glide gently across the face as it does not only helps cleansing your face, the facial cotton pad helps lift up the impurities, next rinse with water. I found out this is more effective compared to massage it on the face and rinse with water. Please take note

Night

Cleanse ->Benzoyl Peroxide( Neutrogena On-the-spot or PanOxyl ) -> Moisturize
* Only use products contains 2.5% of Benzoyl peroxide. Avoid 5% or 10% products such as OXY5 and OXY10 as it is too harsh for the skin.

For 1st time user, please apply BP once per two nights for the 1st week. Then, proceed to once per night in the 2nd week. This is to build tolerancy of the skin towards BP.
*BP=Benzoyl Peroxide



BODY ACNE

You may use Cetaphil Gentle bar to cleanse your body to prevent body acne.

Priced at RM22.90 at Guardian
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Biggest mistakes people make on the Regimen


Starting too fast and quitting too early
Post after post on the message boards and in my message inbox show people complaining that their skin is too dry, too red and too flaky as they start the regimen. This uncomfortable reaction is often unavoidable, as BP comes with what dermatologists call the "hardening effect of benzoyl peroxide". However, this redness and dryness should subside after a few weeks. Start slowly, as shown here and you can limit these symptoms. Even when starting slowly, you may still experience discomfort for the first few weeks. This is not a reason to quit. If you see severe crusting or swelling you may be allergic and you should stop, but initial redness, dryness and blotchiness are to be expected.
*BP=Benzoyl Peroxide


Not using enough benzoyl peroxide(BP)
While it is vital that you start with a small amount of benzoyl peroxide, after a period of a few weeks, it is equally important that you ramp up to the full dosage. When in doubt, use more BP at this point. This is the absolute center of the regimen.


Not being gentle enough
When you apply the BP it should take several minutes. This requires patience. Make sure to go slowly and let the BP glide over your skin. Try to be patient and let it absorb on its own without forcing it.
*BP=Benzoyl Peroxide


Not using the right products for the job
The regimen does not work with 10% BP, moisturizers that contain synthetic oil, exfoliating cleansers that can irritate, or irritating shavers. For best results use the recommended products.


Adding in other products or steps
It is important that you wait until you are completely clear before adding in other products or steps to the regimen. After you are completely clear, it is safe to add in 1 variable at a time and see how your skin will react. If you add in other products or steps before you are completely clear, there is an extra variable that is uncontrolled. If you should not clear up, you will not know if it is because of the extra variable or because of something else.


Removing regimen steps
The regimen works as outlined, so it is important that you not skip any of the steps. Cleanse, apply BP and moisturize(optional) daily, every day.
*BP=Benzoyl Peroxide


Thanks Dan's organization for the info.


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BENZOYL PEROXIDE

Please emphasize and take note on the highlighted sentence while reading.

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Precautions
Benzoyl peroxide, like most peroxides, is a powerful bleaching agent. Contact with fabric (including clothing and bed linens) or hair can cause permanent color dampening almost immediately. At high concentrations, benzoyl peroxide is highly flammable and explosive and should be handled with care. In the United States, the monograph for benzoyl peroxide is 2.5% to 10% for both prescription and over the counter use.


Uses
Benzoyl peroxide is effective in the treatment of most forms of acne. It is typically placed over the affected areas in gel or cream form, in concentrations of 2.5% increasing through the usually effective 5% to up to 10%. Research suggests that 5 and 10% concentrations are not significantly more effective than 2.5% and 2.5% is usually better tolerated. It commonly causes initial dryness and sometimes irritation, although skin tolerance usually occurs after a week or so. A small percentage of people are much more sensitive to it and liable to suffer burning, itching, peeling and possibly swelling. It is sensible to apply the lowest concentration and build up as appropriate. Once tolerance is achieved, increasing the quantity or concentration a second time and gaining tolerance at a higher level usually gives better subsequent acne clearance.

Benzoyl peroxide works as a peeling agent, increasing skin turnover and clearing pores, thus reducing the bacterial count there as well as directly as an antibacterial.

Other common uses for benzoyl peroxide include dyeing hair, and as an active ingredient in teeth whitening systems. It is also used in the preparation of flour, and can be used as an initiator and catalyst for polyester thermoset resins (as an alternative to the much more hazardous methyl ethyl ketone peroxide).


Safety
Benzoyl peroxide has been in use for many decades, with no obvious particular safety issues being evident.

Benzoyl peroxide breaks down in contact with skin, producing benzoic acid and oxygen, neither of which are significantly toxic.

When applied to skin benzoyl peroxide has been shown to induce cancer, but only when used at 100% concentrations; it has not been shown to do this at the far lower concentrations used for treating acne, and at lower concentrations benzoyl peroxide has been found not to be mutagenic or carcinogenic.

Benzoyl peroxide removes the top layer of skin, which also decreases the sun protective effect (roughly SPF 3). This can cause sunburn and premature aging if sun protection is not worn. If sun protection is used, benzoyl peroxide has a similar effects to glycolic acid peels which are so-called anti-aging treatments.

When used, particularly close to the eye region, a wrinkling effect can be evident. This is merely dry skin and goes away completely a few weeks after the product is discontinued.
The above information is quoted from Wikipedia.org
Original article can be reached at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzoyl_peroxide



FEEDBACKs

QUOTE(nicKit @ Feb 10 2007, 11:23 PM)
jinyee,

ur regimen really helps... more n more ppl notice my nearly acne free skin... nv felt better... thanks jinyee!!!

ps: when u come down south, i belanja u yum cha...
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QUOTE(erikachen @ Feb 12 2007, 02:58 AM)
Dear jinyee,

  My acne has CLEAR OUT!!!

There's no more BIG BUMP acne on popping out of my face now!!
Thanks a lot Jin Yee....


But i guess when the menstruation comes, some acne will pop out just like how it used to be last time when i in pre-U times...

The regime really helps a lot.... My face is clear now.. left those acne marks... but i hope that it will be gone as time goes by... Do I need to apply anything to make the process faster?

btw... should I stop applying BP on my face now? Or stick to it for 1 mth or 2 first?
I do not know how to show my appreciation to u�

If u bulk Cetaphil I'll buy from u!!�


Added on February 12, 2007, 3:01 am

I went to the Guardian at Kotaraya, the one opposite Watson's one... U can get from there...

Or, I bought my latest PanOxly from Guardian Mutiara Complex - Jln Ipoh...
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QUOTE(erikachen @ Feb 25 2007, 08:47 PM)
Last time I work at a Skin Care department and I thought wanna use SK2 to fix my acne problem.. but my fren, the SK2 beauty advisor told me dun use it cuz my face is "tengah meradang" means very sensitive.. all the acnes coming out.. if use it, it will get worse.....

She say SK2 not suitable for pimple skin...

I followed JinYee's regime... now i think after 3 months my skin smooth liao ler.... ^^ So happy during CNY dun have pimples... ehehehe ^^

I also got use the Pure and Mild Pore Clean Up Oil once a week... to prevents blackheads... dunno got use onot?�
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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Feb 26 2007, 12:58 PM)
Dear Jinyee80:

I m satisfied with your regime and will continue to use it !! My blackheads is lesser & my nose no more "berduri-duri"  THANKS !!

Anyway, my girlfriend is using Hazeline Snow Cream & she strongly recommend me to use it !! Is it really good ?? I know the price is rather cheap.

Ingredients:
Water, Stearic Acid, Methyl Stearate, Sodium Hydroxide, Benzoic Acid, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Fragrance.

Thanks.
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QUOTE(g33ked33 @ Mar 12 2007, 09:49 PM)
Hiya jinyee. I had been following the regimen for almost 3 months and my skin's so much better now. Just left some reddish marks and I guess it's going to take some time for it to heal. But I would like to ask what type of foundation would be suitable for me as I have sensitive skin. I need to use a lil' foundation for functions. Do advise and thanx.
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QUOTE(Darksyde @ Mar 22 2007, 09:16 PM)
hi jinyee, your recommended regimen works wonder. no more acne popup except for yesterday, just one only. hehehe.. thanks!
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QUOTE(F33L3Lik3Hom3 @ Mar 26 2007, 08:01 PM)
Jinyee,

My skin has not had acne break outs for sometime now. I would like to know whether exfoliating my skin on a daily basis will make my acne scars and pits worse ?

Actually, I noticed something, because last week I forgot to exfoliate my skin for a few days and my scars and pits became to look less obvious. But when I started to exfoliate again, it seems like my scars and pits look more obvious.

Pls advice

Thanks a lot
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QUOTE(unamed @ Mar 26 2007, 09:56 PM)
Jinyee my skin gotten better already�

Thanks.
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QUOTE(alia_ruzanna @ Apr 9 2007, 05:31 PM)
hai Jinyee..

honestly, i can say that this regimen is wonderful..i've been followin regimen for about 3months n my skin is much clearer now but facing probs with scars,not� pitted scars but just acnemark..i've read sumwhere bout AHA,and it is said that AHA can lighten those marks..

so,ive search for AHA product n i found st.ives peeling mask with AHA..is it ok if i use that product?or can u recommend any product that will not irritate my skin?
anyway,tq for making such a great changes by making this thread..
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QUOTE(theeastdevil @ Apr 10 2007, 05:37 PM)
I've been following Jin Yee's regime for almost 3 months, it really makes differences. Last time I took doxycycline antibiotic with other regime, but seriously now I don't have to take doxycycline anymore wiith Jin Yee's regime. The first three weeks after I started to follow Jin Yee's regime was normal until the fourth week my face became dryer (it was really hurt and I was hoping to have oily skin!) and a lot of acne popping up, it lasted for 2 weeks. After that, only area on my chin has little or most of the time none of acne but other area is free of acne and overall it's wonderful. Thank you for sharing your regime, you contributing a lot. To everyone who is thinking to follow Jin Yee's regime, DO NOT hesitate, maybe three weeks after you start to follow Jin Yee's regime will somehow have the same as experience as mine, but after that it will be wonderful. Again, THANK YOU very very very much Jin Yee!
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QUOTE(nothingz @ Apr 28 2007, 03:19 PM)
I have started to use Cetaphil oily skin cleanser and pan oxyl 2.5 since chinese new year, now my skin looks better than ever.� Thanks jinyee!
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QUOTE(mandysu @ May 22 2007, 09:07 PM)
dear jinyee,

I just bought the PanOxyl 2.5 from Guardian last Sunday. I have been using Cetaphil Gentle Cleanser for almost 2 months and honestly, my skin texture becomes softer and better. Well, I still have some acnes popped out and that's why I bought the PanOxyl 2.5. Just want to ask, should I apply the panoxyl on the pimples itself / at the whole area which acne prone? How long should I continue to use the panoxyl even though there is no more acne formed?
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QUOTE(eddie89 @ May 24 2007, 02:46 PM)
Jinyee your regimen really works! Thank u! I have been using your regimen more than one month and my pimples getting less week by week till now only got some pimples! I am so happy because I finally have my clearer face back!� BRAVO�
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QUOTE(nkw1987 @ Jul 18 2007, 05:41 PM)
Jinyee:

Sorry for the late reply and feedback. After using jinyee;s recommend regimen for sometime my face has become better than last time abd less acne pop up. And now i still using the regimen to treat my acne. Tis have to thnkz jinyee lo. Lolz. Will gv someeed back after sometime.
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QUOTE(kltower4 @ Aug 13 2007, 05:34 PM)
jinyee80: I would like to thank you for introducing me to a cheap and affordable BP product that is available in Malaysia. I was so tempted to order online from acne.com but thx god I found your thread. I would like to say that my pimple outbreaks have went from full to close to nill in a matter of days. Excellent stuff!!!
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QUOTE(tsstcp @ Aug 20 2007, 09:14 AM)
thanks Jinyee! My face become better, just using ur regimen 2 weeks only.�
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QUOTE(screw-u-guys @ Oct 13 2007, 02:09 PM)
Hi guys, 1st of all thank for jin yee recommend this regimen to me because my skin greatly improve n i have suffer serious acne for 3 yrs so i try many type of medication and it doesnt work until i try tis regimen for 3 week(no need 2month) , finally it show me good outcome result at least for me
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QUOTE(feyhime @ Oct 24 2007, 02:38 PM)
Jinyee

Hey this is my 4th month on the regime. So far I don't have any break out anymore (rarely) and my skin condition has improved a lot. Will this regime helps remove/heal old acne scars because I have some on my cheeks. If not, if there any product you can recommend to help?

Thanks!!
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QUOTE(sher @ Nov 21 2007, 12:59 AM)
this regimen definitely works for me and also my friends i have introduced to.I am still recommending this simple yet cheap regimen to ppl suffering from acnes.I have never been so happy with my face! not even one pimple now, eventhough during my period(i used to have big ances during period!)...Jin yee is really one kind soul i would say.Really thank her alot!hehe....
btw, i have now in my 3rd month using this regimen....don't be lazy gurls!and guys...hehe
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QUOTE(t3ngt3ng @ Nov 21 2007, 10:22 AM)
i've been following tis regimen for a month n it works effectively on me.
im using neutrogena cleanser rather than cetaphil as i've been using it for years n it suits my skin
after following tis regimen, my skin's condition is much much better..my face especially my forehead n nose r not oily anymore. even after a day of work..my face stil free frm oil. b4 tis, i can feel my face so so oily everytime i wake up. but not now.. I can feel my skin is much moisture n glowing. as for the breakouts, its getting very much lesser..i mean very very much. my acne scars oso faded..due to the BP effect i guess??
overall, i'm very happy wit the results n highly recommend tis regimen to everyone!
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QUOTE(sher @ Jan 14 2008, 05:04 PM)
support jin yee always!she helped me and my sisters in acne problem...we have faced it for so so many years, and now all acne is gone!With a smooth and soft face too!hehe...
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QUOTE(winterbear @ Jan 18 2008, 03:40 PM)
Last time, i used to have a very lovely skin and receive lots of compliments. However, about one year ago, I changed my skin care then my nightmare began. Pimples were popping out like crazy. Then I started the journey of combating pimples, I used to go saloon every month, take Dr's pills, buy all the branded skin care which seemed to be promising, but all my money goes into waste.

That time i was too desperate to cure my pimples, so after reading JinYee's post, i immediately bought Cetaphil cleanser and moisturiser. For the first week, i could feel that my face was getting so smooth and soft however, the pimples were still there as i didn't use the panoxyl. But I continue using Cetaphil cleanser and moisturiser for about 1 month, all my pimples were gone!!Now I have been using Cetaphil cleanser and moisturiser for about 5 months, within the 2nd month till now, there is no single pimple popping out!! Thumbs up for Cetaphil product!!

Finally I found the right product for myself, A Big Thanks to JinYee!! Just like you mentioned before, one of the reasons of having pimples is using wrong product, I truly believe that your post is extremely useful for those searching for suitable product to cure pimples caused by using wrong skin care.
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QUOTE(lexzyara @ Jun 27 2008, 07:32 PM)
hey..
have anyone here ever heard about shurah??
i have follow jinyee's regimen for almost 1 month now..
and my face is almost clear  .. except on my check.. 
but i also suffer from acne marks.. lots of acne marks!!
so.. can anyone/jinyee tell me the product that cheap(im still a student) and can reduce or make the marks gone for good??.. 

ha.. bout the shurah product..
is it good??
can i replace the liquid neutrogena with the shurah cleanser??
can i?? can i??
please help me..

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QUOTE(Babe2009 @ Jan 7 2009, 05:32 PM)
Dear Jin Yee,

  I'm really happy that I found your posting about acne in this forum. I had been suffer from acne problem for many years!!! It started in my secondary school time (around form 2). My acne problem grown to become very very serious when I am in form 5. My whole face is covered with acne and hyper-pigmentation and it's also very sensitive especially under the sun it become swollen and turn very red. That time I remembered many friends and relatives when they see me they instantly will notice my acne and ask what happen to my face. Furthermore, some "friends" even teased me and said my face look like "MOON SURFACE" coz its full of acne and uneven surface 
I feel really hurt and sad during this dark hour in my life. I become very passive in person don't like to go out much and prefer to stay home alone even it's boring. I can say it really influence my self- esteem til these day !!

  So in desperate need, I tried hard want to improve my skin conditions. But without much knowledge on skin care products and not doing proper research I ended out buying a lot of "CRAP" skin care products (I don't want to mentioned their brands). Many beauticians took advantages on me coz that time I am too desperate want to clear out my skin and I had spent nearly all my saving (thousand of ringgits) for buying those useless products. Worst part is I can see no result at all after using their products. Sometimes my skin had even more breakout after I had applied those products. When I went back to complaint about the problem, they will say it's just a normal "cleansing process". They claimed that my skin was auto detoxing after applying their products so it's "normal" to get more outbreak...blah..blah...blah... But the problem is my skin don't get better it's become even worst!! I have no choice but to stop using those products.
Besides, some beauticians even asked me to do treatments in their salon. I remember I signed up before one "facial package" which cost me around RM8000. She said she can guarantee that my skin will become clear after I do the treatments. But after I signed up and paid the money everything change! They started to ask me to buy more and more products even I had already spend so much money to sign up their package !!! They claimed that my skin need "extra this and extra that" cos my skin is too serious and threaten me that if I do not buy the EXTRA products my skin will not see any result even after I do the facial treatments, and it will be a waste of my money for this facial package. I really feel being cheated!

  After all these bad experiences I have totally lost confident in beauty salons. I won't go to beauty salon anymore. I prefer read review in forum or blog and do my own research on skin-care products. That why I feel happy that I found your topic in this forum. P/S: I read thru all the postings from beginning till end (although it's a very very long postings, it took me days to read all.

  Nowadays even though my acne problem is not that serious compare to last time (most of them already heal)but I still have occasionally break-out especially during the menstrual period.

  I did follow your suggestion and bought the Cetaphil cleanser and moisturizer and start using it. I can feel my skin really soften after using the cleanser and can see my acne recover faster. My skin texture also improve quite a lot after only using your regime for 2 weeks. I will continue to use it, hopefully will see even better result in future.

Lastly, I sincerely want to thank you
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QUOTE(auroradreams @ May 9 2009, 10:57 PM)
Hey jinyee,

i used this remedy for almost several months.
The result is suprisingly good! All the BIG BUMPS have reduced alrd...even my acne scar is reducing now ^^

Really want to thank you for the remedy!

I can say you are our(ACNE sufferers) heroin le!!

Once again have to thank you vry vry much!!

Btw, can i ask u one ques bout the BB cream??
I wanted to buy the BB cream but i dont know whether should apply the PanOxyl2.5 + Moisteriser then use BB cream?
Will the BB cream cause breakout?
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QUOTE(sashakyo85 @ May 17 2009, 05:18 PM)
hi there jinyee

it's been 1 year since i stumbled to this forum and tried this regimen and i've never been more grateful. I'm glad i tried this regimen. my skin's now is way better than it was before. i took a before and after pic and the difference is unbelievable. I'm still using the regimen until now. i only get pimples during period now. Thank you a lot for the advices! People discussing in this thread also helps a lot. thanks guys!
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QUOTE(mindemeanor @ May 26 2009, 03:07 AM)
Hello Jin Yee and girls,

I'm not totally gone..have been crazily busy for the past few months. I'm less than 24 hours shy to d official completion of my BA hons course, hence explains y I'm up at this hour.

I'll be sending u pics of my improved complexion. It's been like, 3 1/2 months since I started on Jin Yee's regimen. About a few days ago, I witnessed my first without-pimple day after about 10 years suffering from terribly acne. Scars, doubtlessly, a lot..all over (all thanks to that tea tree Body Shop skin care set!!!  But I'm glad my skin is pimple-free, though not entirely (with small little ones sometimes)..but I've been witnessing tremendous/significant improvement.

Let me tell ya, I love chewing on Twisties, Cheezels and other unhealthy snacks..especially over the past one month..studying for exams, with all d stress (keeping my scholarship, giving my best shot for first class honors). Surprisingly, they have little effect on my skin! We've always heard all those myths about observing a healthy diet for a great complexion as well as how stress affects pimples. But from my very own personal experience, hahaha I'm happily surprised with my improved complexion despite all far from healthy food consumption and stress (not that I'm implying that u should eat unhealthily!! And I know that food somehow affects d skin; I'm just glad it has been evidenced to have very little negative effects on (my) skin). Well d stress I suffered is real stress! Waking up constantly with nightmares, inability to sleep well, etc.

I'll write to u again Jin Yee..and I will blog about it with lots n lots of pics (maybe a month from now or so when my skin improves even more).
all credits to u Jin Yee. Thank u sooooooooooooooooooooo much Jin Yee!!

Now let me get back to my exam preparation. Will be officially a fresh graduate in about 12 hours!
warmest regards,
MD.
26151979
QUOTE(PELIKAN @ Jun 5 2009, 09:05 PM)
TRY STAY AWAY FROM BEAUTICIAN  SUCH DR M**** OR ETC...THEY ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE ON OUR PROBLEM...DON'T LOSING FAITH LIKE I DO...HOPE IS THERE...PATIENCE AND PRAY
JINYEE I IN PROGRESS WITH REGIME SO FAR IT HAS BEEN 4 DAY MY WIFE SAYS THERE IS GOOD PROGRESS INDICATION..I HOPE IT CONTINUE ...I TOOK KALOGEN AS WELL..PEOPLE SAYS IT GOOD FOR SKIN...HOPE THEY'RE RITE..SO FAR I FEEL IT'S HELP ALSO...TKS AGAIN..AND TAKE CARE EVERYONE..THOSE WHO NEED CHATEPHILL ETC..I MAY HELP YOU..AT MY BEST LEVEL.TO GET THOSE...I AM FROM KL...ONCE AGAIN...JINYEE KEEP YOU GOOD AND SINCERE WORK ..
I WILL UPDATE MY PROGRESS THIS 2 WEEKS..
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QUOTE(alyssa_cha @ Apr 28 2010, 12:08 AM)
Hi few weeks ago i stumbled across your acne thread, and followed your advice and bought cetaphil straight away. and i must say my skin's looking great now. i'm using it for a month already, my forehead is totally cleared of acnes, and my cheeks too. but im starting to have acnes at my jawline and this never happens before. it's quite annoying really, you got fairly smooth skin upwards and then u get big pimples at ur jawline.

oh ya, recently i bought bio-oil to reduce my acne scar..is it any good?

and i'm using clinique dramatically different moisturizer. what do you think about the product? and oh i have oily skin.

ur advice would mean great to me. thanks


QUOTE(Joyi @ Jul 09 2010, 11.56 PM)
Hi jinyee  ive followed your regime for acne for about 3 months and my face got so much better ! It felt like a miracle. By the way, i need some help on the scars. What do you recommend for that? thanks 


QUOTE(princess_tutu @ Oct 3 2010, 01:56 PM)
Hi Jinyee and everyone

It's been a long time since I last posted here
Just want to share my experience and update my current progress

I'm an acne sufferers since my early 20's due to wrong products use before and developed sensitive skin. Most of the time my acne is bump and nodules type-rarely had pus or any other discharge

I started this regime somewhere in the middle of 2008
And thing goes well for a couple of weeks, means minor breakouts but the red spots and scars still there
And yeah i'm one of the "impatient human"
Wanting to speed up the process and cut the queue so i add so many other products (not suggested in the regime) to name while in the process..and ended up with non stop acne pop up everywhere like crazy..even at the unusual place like behind the ears???? WTH it's doing there???
I called it my dark time...My confident level goes very very very low and most of the time I refused to hang out with my buddy and even rejected some cute guys that ask me out (at that time they didn't know my skin condition because previously I have nil acne y'know, in case you wondering. But I know I can't hiding like this forever and somehow my job is involving with meeting a lotsa new people everyday.

So after doing a lots of research, I learnt that the best way to prevent acne is to find a products that suits you well ( especially if you had sensitive skin like me) and kill the bad bacteria ( never again wanted to believe the resdung theory~maggots under my skin??? please...

So I back to this regime in December 2009 as I know cetaphil provided the mildest cleanser to sensitive skin like me and apply BP generously to acne prone area, +/- neutrogena moisturizer whenever I exposed to air-cond

And I should be very grateful after years of wanting, finally I can say my skin now is in its best behaviour with zits appears only during menstruation time (minor one mostly at the upper forehead, can't see after covered with hairs

And as Jinyee recommended before to add other SAFE products only when skin in its best state, so now I also use Bliv Off With Those Head for my blackhead on the nose about twice per week...And hey this one also works like a charm for me!!

Trust me people, please do not give up on this great regimes which is affordable and available..what more could you ask for a skin care?
The key word here is PATIENT PATIENT and PATIENT and please do not add other products to speed up the process and risk your face to all the dangerous chemical products. It tend to give significant result in short term only while in long run your problems will going on like forever

Be positive and have faith!!! It's help me and lots of other people too...so why do you think you are excluded in the list?

Thanks a lot Jinyee...You are my sunshine after the rain
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Jin Yee,thanks for your regimen..it works well for me to reduce my acne.then i used the elicina cream to reduce the acne scar,but the problem is there are still some dark spots.may i know do u recommend wat brand of whitening product to reduce the dark spots??Thanks..
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QUOTE(leyching @ Dec 28 2010, 02:03 PM)
This is my seventh month following Jinyee’s regime and I can loudly announce that my face is now completely pimple free (except for pimple scars><).

For me, I only use Cetaphil and Panoxyl at night. While in the morning, I use back my usual milk cleanser, toner and super lots moisturiser (because Panoxyl seem to dry my skin tremendously). As my pimples lessen, I reduced the amount of Panoxyl I applied and reducing also the coverage area i apply Panoxyl.

The only problem now is the too-slow-fading pimple scar and the highly unavailability of Panoxyl in the market. I have posted here before that I obtain my Panoxyl from Caring Pharmacy but for the last two months, I am unable to get anymore Panoxyl from every Caring branches in the whole of Klang Valley (in major shopping malls). However, just yesterday, I found Panoxyl again, in Mid Valley Aeon Wellness (in front of Jaya Jusco LG) and I actually bought all three packets they had on the rack:p I don’t know whether you guys have trouble getting your hands of the product but I do so I tend to stock as much as I can^^

Btw, Panoxyl is sold at RM14.90 at Caring Pharmacy (I was told by an employee that Caring no longer carries Panoxyl><) and RM17.XX at Mid Valley Aeon Wellness whereas Cetaphil is available in most Pharmacies.

Good luck everyone!


Added on December 28, 2010, 2:07 pm

For me I apply only BP at night after washing my face with Cetaphil. Moisturiser I use only in the morning. But Jinyee recommends applying moisturiser sometime after you have applied BP, no need to rinse off either of them.
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Personally for me, I have this terrible break-outs when my period is not in time...Currently, I have seen changes<better cahnges, i mean> on my skin since I start using Nutox concentrate serum, with a milk -base cleanser for makeup cleanser and I use Nutox bird collagen moisturiser for day.

Actually, it bcome more better when I start drinking Firm-Up from Lennox, but when I start change it to Etsu, no changes at all.

I tried Renugen also, but not so good changes that I could notice; compared to Firm-Up. But still, my acne problem could not be stopped.My cheeks and my T-zone all covered with acne scars..

thanks to Jinyee, Now I am trying cetaphil and i noticed all my 'active' acne become small and its not hurt and no pain when u touch it.some of them faded.Will see full result this February after 3 weeks using Cetaphil.
Last facial i did before I start reading Jinyee regimen, was on 8 december..
you can read my 'excited' experience there..
http://gojezzy.blogspot.com/2010/12/herbal...-damansara.html
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QUOTE(redbubblegirl @ Feb 8 2011, 08:12 PM)
you mean where i bought benzac 2.5%??
it's available in most pharmacies...and it's from galderma...
same supplier of cetaphil...

the results from the regimen really is great....
i really need to thank u for sharing this with everyone...

i've been suffering from acne since high school...as my dad has acne problem too...

by the way...are you a skincare expert?

thanks!
QUOTE(estherpang87 @ Jan 26 2014, 12:24 AM)
Hi there, I have been following Jinyee's regimen since May 2013. Nothing can heal me. So i decided to go back to her regimen and give it another try. My face was so serious until every part of my face was covered with acne. but now, everything is not the same anymore. my face was 90% recovered, only left with some scars which i believe it will fade away. you can PM me for more information.
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as u recommend me to use Liquid Neutrogena Facial Cleansing Formula (Fragrance-free) + Neutrogena
On-the-Spot Acne Treatment (For Acne Skin)


i feel comfortable with it, hope this will be last solution for me :praying:

and for medicine Tetracycline i try buy it from guardian, but they wont allowed me to buy without doctor recommendation letter cry.gif

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Well, stick on your current regimen and don't change it that soon because results only show after approx 1.5 months. Use fragrance free and mild products for acne. It will be at least minimize the acne.


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i got more info about acne solution from here www.acneguide.ca
but....but where can get oral antibiotics, such as tetracycline or accutane?

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Go for local pharmacy nearby, or dispensary but most of them requires doctor's or physicians' prescription. Don't take it overdose, otherwise side effect of of lung and kidney problem will arise.
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neutrogena good lor... combo wif oxy ^^
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I use CLEARASIL and it's works for me happy.gif

and oh yeah tradition medicine too like tepung sagu tongue.gif
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Tepung Sagu, it works for some but it might not. Scientifically said that substance like tepung sagu might clog the pores, which the bacteria of acne, P.acne survives in condition without oxygen, which is anerobic, they might tend to cause flare up on your skin. I understand that some might say it has the soothing feeling but person who is suffering for nodules and cysts should not try it.

Clearasil, which uses triclosan to prevent acne is a harsh product for acne. Those with sensitive skin should try to get a mild formula for that. As understood that P.acne may get immune towards triclosan, one's acne condition might get worst. The same applies to Tea Tree Oil which some might develop itchness towards a portion of people. But some manage to use it successfully, so it depends on one's skin condition.

I would say that use MILD cleanser, MILD moisturizer and a lots of Benzoyl Peroxide will helps in reducing one's acne. Toner with excessive alcohol, ethanol might dry out one's skin, aggravating the oil glands to deposit more and more sebum on one's epidermis which will create an ideal environment for P.acnes to survive.
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Talking about OXY, why the OTC medication is called OXY, and OXY is skincare products purposely for acne sufferers. OXY comes from the word OXYGEN, O2, which P.acnes cannot survive when its exposed to oxygen. OXY contains Benzoyl Peroxide, which Benzoyl Peroxide released the oxygen from the air into the pimple. Let's imagine that our pore is like a bottle, the mixture of excessive sebum+P.acnes+dirts will cork the open area of the bottle, which it will gradually decrease the amount of oxygen in the corked bottle. And when there's less and less oxygen in the clogged pore, P.acne tends to be more active.
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bravo jinyee for the explanation thumbup.gif
r u working with skin care product company? just imagine that u hv knowledge on it laugh.gif

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Last time when I have mild acne, during high school time, I tend to read articles about acne and because my mum is a doctor, she provided me a lots of info about that. I did some onlineresearch by myself regarding which products are good, and which are not. I collected info from my friends and relatives.

Well, the purpose of opening this thread is to let others to know what is acne, how acne forms and most important thing is how to deal with acne and of course the psychology of acne sufferers.

I really do hope this would be able to help. Because in Malaysian, I discovered that less people are willing to talk bout this topic.

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or maybe forumer here no problem at all about acne laugh.gif
or im the only one here who suffering from acne cry.gif
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everytime i got breakouts i used to put on t3 pimple gel on my pimples.
so far no serious acne probs.

but my tip is dont ever ever try to pecahkan ur pimples. i know lotsa people tempted to do this.. let it pecah sendiri.


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I remember once, my friend told me when she went to a skincare center, those beautician purposely pressed on your acne and let the pus came out. This will really cause infection of bacteria and furthermore contribute to serious scars. So, please don't do so and if you really develop acne and have important occassion to go for, please do put on heavy make up to conceal it, because it will just make the situation worst. Just let it be. 28 days that are needed for the P.acnes to form visible acne on your face, so you need to consistentl take good care of your skin everyday.

Mentrual cycle break-out is normal, but if its too serious, perhaps you need to take medicine.
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lol. how bout back acne?
do u gals having that problem?

i've notice this issue kinda long ago which im having quite some time.
and, today, i come across this article on theSun newspaper,
which is actually a T3 advertisement i guess.

here's some cut n type from the article
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Acnes among men

Causes of acne
most people develop acne during adolescene. It is most prevalent in those aged 16 to 18 years. The reasons are:
- higher levels of sex hormones at puberty than in younger children.
- conversion of hormones in the skin to dihydrotestosterone(DHT) which stimulates oil glands to enlarge
- production of sebum by oil glands, called sebaceous glands. The more sebum, the more likely it is that acne will be troublesome
- blockage of skin pores by sebum and keratin(dead skincells) which causes comedones(small rough bumps) to develop
- rupture in the walls of the sebaceous follicies
- bacteria and comedonal debris causing pimples or pustules (inflammatory lesions)

acne becomes less of a problem after age 25, although about 15% of women and  5% of men continue to have it as adults.

Aggravating factors
Some people have particularly severe acne. This may be because of the following factors:
- genetic factors such as other family members having bad acne
- hormonal factors such as higher levels of androgenic hormones due to:
--- enzyme deficiency, such as sterol hydroxylase deficiency (very rare)
--- psychological stress and depression
--- high humidity which may cause swelling of the skin
--- dietary factors such as consuming excessive dairy products

T3 Acne Body Wash contains a bactericidal agent that is effective against P. acnes (Propionibacterium acnes), the causative bacteria associated with body acne.
gonna try the T3.
anyone tried? and how is it?

-ciao
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T3 products are not bad but some people might develop sensitivity towards the products. For back acne, I would say that try to wear shirts that could let your sweat evaporates fast, not trapping it inside.

When it comes to acne, people might think that ' I wash my skin frequently and I will be able to get rid of it'. NO! you are wrong. You need your skin's sebum to protect itself from the environment. When you are washing your skin that frequently, it is like encouraging your skin to deposit more sebum to your epidermis which this will contribute to acne.

Washing your face twice or three times a day is sufficient. Body, 2-3 times is also sufficient.
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I used "Acne Aid" which comes in a white color box. Its available at some Guardian. It is good for me and my siblings. Another one is Neu-Methrol (Spelling I'm not quite sure of it), this drug cost a bomb and its only a small bottle. Available at certain pharmacy but you need a physician's approval to buy this! smile.gif

However I still prefer Acne Aid. Do watch your food intake, best to avoid oily/fried/deep fried stuff. Drink more fluids, more vege and fruit intake, and not to forget, EXERCISE really makes a difference! By the way, sleeping pattern will also contributes to acne. Better have enough sleep. biggrin.gif
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Thought of sharing a few tips of my own here.
If you are thinking of going to seek a beautician/doctor/dermatologist help, please spend some times learning more about acne and gather some information about that particular person. Some beautician/doctor/dermatologist are only interested in making a profit out of you instead of helping you. Like they would recommend and prescribe products/medications that you wont really need or not suitable for your skin. Mind you, I dare say that some of them are not even that knowledgeable. (I once had encountered a so called beautician who didnt even know bout Salicylic Acid when I asked her bout it when she was trying to get me to buy one of the products. She was like "Uhh..what is it?" rclxub.gif Sorry matey but that's 100% confident points down the drain.)

You might wanna check on your skin hydration level (moisture level). Dehydrated skin would cause your skin to release/produce more oil,thus causing acnes. You'll be surprised to know that dehyration not only can happen to dry/normal skin as even combination or oily skin can be dehydrated.Try keep your skin well hydrated with hydration boosting moisturizers/serum/essence and you will minimize the outbreak/occurance of acnes. Drink a lot of plain water too.

The best bet for acne prone skin or those with mild acne case is to get a mild cleanser with salicylic acid (like the one offered by neutrogena ) which would exfoliate gently by removing dead skin cell on the surface of your skin. After that use a suitable toner.Oily skin especially would benefit from toner as toner would help to control oiliness/sebum. Like Jinyee said earlier, best not to use toner that contains alcohol as it would dry out your skin. You might want to try Euracin's toner, Neutrogena Alcohol-Free Toner or Neutrogena Skin Clearing Toner. Lastly apply adequate moisturizer to your skin and don't skimp on the moisturizer. For moisturizer choices, its really a matter of trial and error since everyone have different skin types and tolerance level.

** Its not adviseable to wash your face more than 2 times a day. If you really feel that your skin is oily/dirty in the afternoon, just splash on somewater and then rub dry gently with a cotton before applying moisturizer again)

If you can afford for facials,treatments and over the counter products (the expensive range products) by all means do give it a shot if youre finding that supermarket brands are not working for you/ irritate your skin. Biotherm, Shiseido
and Clinique do offer some acne/spot fighting products. But I'm not saying that these products are more effective than supermarket brands cuz at the end of the day it all come down to how your skin respond to the treatment/products youre using. whistling.gif
Another thing that people tend to forgotten is to stock on vitamins orally~ Vitamin C,E,A and Zinc would be helpful to those with acne. It's not adviseable to take Zinc supplements though as excessive intake of zinc can promote deficiency in other dietary minerals.One can obtain enough dosage of zinc through foods
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From Wikipedia "...Zinc is found in oysters, and to a far lesser degree in most animal proteins, beans, nuts, whole grains, pumpkin seeds and sunflower seeds..."


I wonder if anyone had been to http://www.acne.org . This is a free site that offer free acne solution through their clear skin regimen. Do check it out for those with acne problems. I'm a bit skeptical about using so much benzoyl preoxide in that program though. whistling.gif

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I wonder if anyone had been to http://www.acne.org . This is a free site that offer free acne solution through their clear skin regimen. Do check it out for those with acne problems. I'm a bit skeptical about using so much benzoyl preoxide in that program though.


Dan's regimen is majority suitable. He has been working hard to get those supplies for us as well. I have been to the website when I was in high school.

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The best bet for acne prone skin or those with mild acne case is to get a mild cleanser with salicylic acid (like the one offered by neutrogena ) which would exfoliate gently by removing dead skin cell on the surface of your skin. After that use a suitable toner.Oily skin especially would benefit from toner as toner would help to control oiliness/sebum. Like Jinyee said earlier, best not to use toner that contains alcohol as it would dry out your skin. You might want to try Euracin's toner, Neutrogena Alcohol-Free Toner or Neutrogena Skin Clearing Toner. Lastly apply adequate moisturizer to your skin and don't skimp on the moisturizer. For moisturizer choices, its really a matter of trial and error since everyone have different skin types and tolerance level.
I would say that mild cleanser is already sufficient, and I would emphasize on mild cleanser that did not leave residue on the skin. Glycerin is a good recommendation for skin. Salicylic Acid, known as beta hydroxy acid is less irritating than Alpha Hydroxy Acid ( Fruit Acids ), it has the function of penetrating into the skin and remove impurities, preventing pores from clogging up. Nevertheless,I would not recommended to those who has sensitive skin. In addition, cleanser with active ingredient might has insufficient time to play their role because you don't wash your face for an hour, therefore, although there's active ingredients in the cleanser, purposely targeted to prevent acne, might just be washed and drained away. Salicylic Acid causes hyperpigmentation, which in Malaysia, equatorial, the sunlight is so strong and you will have to cover yourself with sunblock. The higher the SPF, the more potential will it clog up your pores.

Talking about toner, besides keeping out of alcohol, you should also avoid toner with fragrance. Neutrogena Alcohol Free Toner is free of alcohol but it has fragrance. Moreover, when you use the pH paper to test it, its too alkaline. Our skin should be a little bit acidic.

Moisturizer, oil-free, non-comedogenic, dermatologist tested, all these words will sound convincing but bear in mind to look into the ingredients yourself. Normally, the ingredients that are stated initially and following represent their present from high to low in the product. Some people said oil-free, oil is not good but have you all heard of vaseline? Its good for skin, and the main ingredient is petrolatum, which is oil. Glycerin is also oil, but there's good and there's bad oil. Bare in mind! Synthetic oil tends to clog pores.

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Well said girls! rclxms.gif I do read about avoid using those toner with alcohol and I have used it on myself too from Clinique range. It is like a burning sensation to my skin. Even though it says it is dermalogical tested. whistling.gif
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From my experience, don't totally 100% believe on those word, be a wise consumer. Do research and make comparison, you don't risk your skin with products that are not suitable.
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wow I thanks for the explanation jinyee..

anyway you ever heard about NATASHA product? most of my friends already try it.. and all of them seems works but Im afraid to use it since Im fairly OK with clearasil..

so what you think?

oh yea my skin condition is good, there are no big/wild acne blink.gif ..but sometimes a little/tiny spot ..not that much

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jinyee~
since you so knowledgeable in ANCE
can u gv some advise for me..
wha's the best cleanser should i use to cure my ance problem...
im oily skin ..
i did use OXY
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To Youko Misake,

I'm so sorry that I just could not provide you any advice because I never heard NATASHA before and if you could, please provide me the HTTP link to the website that has information about it, perhaps I can have a look and let you know roughly about the product's pros and cons. Clearisil is too aggresive I would say to the skin, the P.acne bacteria which causes acne will get tendency towards Triclosan, which is also the main ingredient used to prevent acne in Clearisil. As I always emphasized, go for really MILD cleanser and MILD moisturizer. Don't think that moisturizer with a lots of skin benefiting ingredients from A-Z in a product will help your skin much. No, it did not because imagine that you are applying a one-and-for-all solution on your skin. Your skin will get exhausted which it did not only develop acne as consequences, but it may also bring on other skin problems.

Since you say your skin is good, I would advise you to use mask at least once per week for moisturizing purposes. Once a blue moon of break out is very normal, don't really take it too hard!


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To rainwen,


Oily skin, acne...are popular words among teenagers welcoming the puberty stage. Well, which OXY do you really use? the 5% BP or the 10%? Oily skin doesn't mean its bad, practically oily skin owner tends not to get frickles as dry skin people. So, you wouldn't look old when you are 'old'.smile.gif It is just that you must know how to deal with your skin, then acne wouldn't be a problem at all. Please let me know your cleanser, moisturizer, toner types and your diet, jobs and relevant info before I start my advise.


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great info from ya jinyee smile.gif

im using neutrogena pore refining cleanser currently....hmm i think the scrub tat present in the foam had make my skin thinner tongue.gif ... any better solution?

fyi, my skin type .... oily at t-zone...erm....obvious acne during menstrual period sad.gif....n my hands r juz cnt stop themselv frm pressing the pimples sad.gif help me pls gals *pray*
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Qi_iQ,

You have combination skin. Cleanser, I would say perhaps its your psychology makes you think that your skin is thinner because you did not wash your face for an hour, you wash it around 3-5minutes which it will not show significant impact on your skin.

No pressing. You will tend to cause other bacteria to get into your inner skin. If you would like tp press, its ok, but make sure your hand is clean, and use a what people call it as an acne tool which it has a hole on the centre and you may apply equal force to force the pus out from the acne. Make sure you clean the tool as well when you use it. Then, apply either tea tree oil or other calming properties to soothe the skin. Anyway, I would return to my old thought that you shouldn't press acne, it will cause severe scars if you did it wrongly. Why would you wan to risk yourself, especially your face?

Acne, due to menstrul, unstable hormone decretion. Perhaps some contraceptive pill might help but its not advisable. If you would like to have flawless skin, you gona invest on it. Perhaps you can go for Diane35 if you afford it. Take a look

http://www.diane35.com/html/index.html

Anyway, take note that there's NO evidence saying that your acne will grow out, meaning that they will stop automatically. Anyway, I would not say 100% wouldn't, some might, esepcially those who due to hormone, will stop getting acne when they reach certain age.

Many people tend to get acne, majority reason is that they use the wrong skincare products. Apply everything auntie A said its ok, then when you didn't see result in 2 days( standard time for your skin to reflect the result of the usage of certain skincare products would be at least 1.5 months), you change straight to auntie B's recommendation. Your skin just can't tolerate to change this, and suddenly that.


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thanks...i will hold myself better not to press the pimples smile.gif

btw, do i need to cont use the neutrogena pore refining or i can cahnge to other cleanser? hmm....i planning to get elianto tongue.gif anyone heard of it?
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Its up to u Qi_iQ for the pore refining stuff. Anyway, heard their pore refining essence contains vitamin A and other properties but it might irritate fragile skin.

Never heard of Elianto before. Perhaps you could provide me the hyperlink.
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wahh good explanation here, thanks to jinyee for opening this kind of thread thumbup.gif
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Hi, i have a questions here.
I have quite serious pimples marks on my back. How can i get rid/ ligthen the marks away? Coz u know sometimes is really annoying, as wanna wear spagetti / singlet, then can see those marks obviously. So sad sad.gif
I 've tried to use T3 body wash and the scrub as well. But it doesn't help much. Now using body shop T3 scrub and spray toner on my back, also the same thing.
IT is better to consult skin specialist and apply the medicine they provide?? Please advise. thanks
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tis the Elianto links....but it provide not muc info bout the products @_@

http://www.elianto.biz

bt heard tat is korean product made of fruits worr.....

oh ya jinyee, is it good if i oways change my facial products, under same brand but for diff purpose used ?
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Hi, i have a questions here.
I have quite serious pimples marks on my back. How can i get rid/ ligthen the marks away? Coz u know sometimes is really annoying, as wanna wear spagetti / singlet, then can see those marks obviously. So sad 
I 've tried to use T3 body wash and the scrub as well. But it doesn't help much. Now using body shop T3 scrub and spray toner on my back, also the same thing.
IT is better to consult skin specialist and apply the medicine they provide?? Please advise. thanks



Well, tomato_gal, if I were you, I would not use any products again for my back, except MILD soap that did not strip the natural sebum of the skin. The marks are also called as hyperpigmentation. Given the time, it will heal itself as our body is able to heal itself. So, do not scrub too much, it hurts the skin, perhaps once per week is ok.

Okie, since many people is using NeuCare T3 acne products, I will comment this brand here. Its main ingredient in its acne facial cleanser and spot gel would be purely tea tree oil. Tea tree oil has the antiseptic function but yet it irritate some's skin. Some might develop itchness while some might feel tingling and so on so forth. T3 body wash contains not only tea tree oil, but also triclosan. Again, it will be very drying if you use two 'anti-acne' agents together though it lets you think that the more they put in, the faster you gonna heal.

One key word, very important key word you need to bear in mind when facing with acne problem would be 'PATIENT'. Do research about one product before you try it on your skin. Don't listen to those auntie A claims or auntie B's praise towards the products. Yup, some might works for some people but not every skincare products suit everyone. Therefore you saw so many skincare companies producing various products for various target market.

Lastly, I would conclude that, use MILD soap, scrub once per week and wear clothes that could evaporate your sweats fast. Because the longer it retains on your skin, the more chance the bacteria might cause skin problems.

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To Qi_iQ,

Made from fruits, okie, talking about natural products, we should not miss out the famous pioneer BODYSHOP. Well, bodyshop's products are well known but do you really believe that their products are totally made from natural ingredients without any artifical addictative? The answer is NO because if lets say they use banana to make shampoo, the manufacturer is at UK and their target market is worldwide, do you think if they did not add in anything to preserve the shelf life of their products. Overall, it returns to business. Try to stick on brand that you are familiar with. Because your skin has turned into the mode to suit the skincare products already.

Always change...erm..no advisable but if let's say scrub is ok...but you really need to have a facial cleanser that you wouldn't change that frequently because its the first step in skincare and the first step is essential.

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Well, tomato_gal, if I were you, I would not use any products again for my back, except MILD soap that did not strip the natural sebum of the skin. The marks are also called as hyperpigmentation. Given the time, it will heal itself as our body is able to heal itself. So, do not scrub too much, it hurts the skin, perhaps once per week is ok.

Okie, since many people is using NeuCare T3 acne products, I will comment this brand here. Its main ingredient in its acne facial cleanser and spot gel would be purely tea tree oil. Tea tree oil has the antiseptic function but yet it irritate some's skin. Some might develop itchness while some might feel tingling and so on so forth. T3 body wash contains not only tea tree oil, but also triclosan. Again, it will be very drying if you use two 'anti-acne' agents together though it lets you think that the more they put in, the faster you gonna heal.

One key word, very important key word you need to bear in mind when facing with acne problem would be 'PATIENT'. Do research about one product before you try it on your skin. Don't listen to those auntie A claims or auntie B's praise towards the products. Yup, some might works for some people but not every skincare products suit everyone. Therefore you saw so many skincare companies producing various products for various target market.

Lastly, I would conclude that, use MILD soap, scrub once per week and wear clothes that could evaporate your sweats fast. Because the longer it retains on your skin, the more chance the bacteria might cause skin problems.
U mentioned MILD soap. What kind of soap it that?? Any recommendation?? Have u ever heard of Cetaphil? Sold in guardian and watson as well as hospital. It got both facial and body care products. I am thinking of using this for body wash. It that ok? Well, yeah, i use scrub normally is 1-2 per week only. Never scrub everyday, coz will harm our skin. I have been patient for long le... my back marks still won't disappear.so sad la sad.gif

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    I'm so sorry that I just could not provide you any advice because I never heard NATASHA before and if you could, please provide me the HTTP link to the website that has information about it, perhaps I can have a look and let you know roughly about the product's pros and cons. Clearisil is too aggresive I would say to the skin, the P.acne bacteria which causes acne will get tendency towards Triclosan, which is also the main ingredient used to prevent acne in Clearisil. As I always emphasized, go for really MILD cleanser and MILD moisturizer. Don't think that moisturizer with a lots of skin benefiting ingredients from A-Z in a product will help your skin much. No, it did not because imagine that you are applying a one-and-for-all solution on your skin. Your skin will get exhausted which it did not only develop acne as consequences, but it may also bring on other skin problems.

  Since you say your skin is good, I would advise you to use mask at least once per week for moisturizing purposes. Once a blue moon of break out is very normal, don't really take it too hard!
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well i'll follow your advice about the mask.. which mask product is good?
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U mentioned MILD soap. What kind of soap it that?? Any recommendation?? Have u ever heard of Cetaphil? Sold in guardian and watson as well as hospital. It got both facial and body care products. I am thinking of using this for body wash. It that ok? Well, yeah, i use scrub normally is 1-2 per week only. Never scrub everyday, coz will harm our skin. I have been patient for long le... my back marks still won't disappear.so sad la


Yes, Cetaphil is among the top two MILD cleanser that I recommend it to some other people with acne. It is so MILD that sometimes when you are in hurry, just pour some on the cotton ball and wipe it on your face and you are ready to go. You don't have to rinse it as its so mild that it just wouldn't harm your skin. Anyhow, if you are not in hurry, apply in on your face, massage a little bit, then flush away with water.

About the back acne. Okie, since you mentioned that you have been LONG being patient for that, then perhaps you could go for some skin lightening stuffs, go for some shower which contains skin whitenning properties. Such as Kojic Acid( but its hard to get in M'sia, cos expensive), lactic acid( milk based shower cream such as J&J), Tocopheryl Acetate (vitamin E), Ascorbyl Palmitate (vitamin C/antioxidant) and etcetra. Say NO to Hydroquinone because it will cause side effect to your kidney.

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oh sorry I dont think there is a web about NATASHA product 

well i'll follow your advice about the mask.. which mask product is good?
Regarding mask, there's two kind of mask in the market. Hisatmitsu comes out with the revolutionary tear and wear mask, but this kind of mask would not nourish your skin as the conventional mask will do. I am using SK-II currently but I don't really have a brand to recommend it to you because last time Neutrogena came out with a good acne mask but they stop producing already. You could find it and send the name and hyperlink for me, perhaps I can help you to have a look on it.
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QUOTE(jinyee80 @ Jul 19 2006, 09:04 PM)
Such as Kojic Acid( but its hard to get in M'sia, cos expensive), lactic acid( milk based shower cream such as J&J), Tocopheryl Acetate (vitamin E), Ascorbyl Palmitate (vitamin C/antioxidant) and etcetra. Say NO to Hydroquinone because it will cause side effect to your kidney.
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I tried to use natural path whitening, but can't help le.. cry.gif
For J&J i haven't try b4. But with this kind of whitening shower gel really can help to ligthen the marks?? Now, after i bath, i apply toner on my back. Then i will apply the nivea nite whitening lotion on my back (for a bit only coz scare oily), but dunno like this will works or not. Or can i apply those whitening product use for face and apply on my back? Which whitening product is good that you can recommend??
what can is get those product u mention, Tocopheryl Acetate(vit E), Ascorbyl Palmitate ?? It is 1 of the ingredients in the products??
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Jinyee...since u very know about acne treatment, y dont u sell to us some drugs that we cant get it from guardian, such tetracycline, etc smile.gif

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im using oxy 10% oni apply at acne spot..
last 2 month i use ponds,currently just start use Cetaphil..i didnt use any toner and mosturizer la..
i dun take proper meal coz my daily routine very messy ..hmmm but i did drink alot of water ,2 liter per day..
so SAD!..after came Kl for study, my skin condition getting horrible..
back home oso not like this ler....
this few days,ance keep on pop out.... cry.gif cry.gif
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dya_ungu,

I can't sell those drugs for you even if I could get it because selling those not OTC drugs is against the law. Its ok if you are alright after you take those pills but what if you are not, then probably you will sue me. Anyway, in Malaysia, tetracycline, doxycycline, monocycline, accutane and etc are all prescribed drug, so you need to get to doctors, dermatologists or physicians in order to get those drugs. Its just same as viagra smile.gif


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Ponds did leave residue on skin. Cetaphil is good, keep on using it and you may see result within 1.5months or more, depends on your skin's tendency whether it is able to adapt to those cleanser fast or slow. OXY 10% is too harsh for your skin. It contains Benzoyl Peroxide ( you should know that, if not, look at the ingredient of MXY), which it tends to dry out your skin. So, basically 2.5% is okie already if you use it daily to prevent new acne from forming. 5% one is considered strong too. Anyway, in M'sia market, you could find one brand providing 2.5% of BP, its NEUTROGENA ON-THE-SPOT. You may find it at typical drugstore. icon_rolleyes.gif

Diet did affect partially. Anyway, keep on balance diet is important. When I was young, the old people tends to tell us to eat more vege so that we wouldn't get acne easily. They are not completely wrong because acne is caused because your skin is too acidic. Vege is alkaline, while meat is acidic. Anyway, a friend of mine, she is completely carnivor, ( honestly NO vege, everytime chicken, mutton, fish, cuttlefish, pork, beef.....) but her skin is silky smooth. So, we could not conclude that by eating vege then you wouldn't get acne.

Anyway, keeping balance diet is not meant to prevent acne only, its for your health as well. So, try to get balance diet. Drink a lot of water is a good action. Well done! It helps to keep away bad breathe too!


tomato_gal,

If I were you, I would not apply any toner and cream or lotion on my back. Just leave it and wear cotton clothes so your skin can breathe. Normally it took 2-3years for those marks to diminish. So, be patient. The more thing you apply, the more worst it will be because there's friction between your skin and your clothes.And sweats too...so the skin will feel hard to breathe. For those products with the ingredients that I mentioned about, yup, you are right, its one of the ingredient. When a product is meant for the face, you don't use it on your body and vice versa. This is because the the skin of our face is thinner than the back one. So, concentrated formula will be used for our back while the face version will be a lite version. doh.gif

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tqz~~
by the way, u knw wat kind of medecine can '"pai du"'( sory i dunno eng call wat)
feel like wan go pharmacy n ask....

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Okie, there's many direct sales selling that kind of products, so its up to you whether you gonna choose which one. If i am not mistaken, there's a so-called 'wat toxin' that is sold in guardian or watson's, you can have a look .
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thanks for your advise. smile.gif
Will try to use cetaphil for shower bath in this case.
Yup that i know. i never use anything for body to apply my face. But just use facial product to apply on my skin. hehe.. Like moisturizer for face with spf.. Last time i am using olay, but i have been changin all my facial products to Artistry. Coz the olay no long use for me face. Instead of wasting, i will just apply for my hand as sunblock lo. Coz i don't really explored to sun everyday as working in office. So i think it should be ok for it lo. wink.gif
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Well well, I see that 80% of the acne cases are related to the usage of skincare products. It ranges from over usage ( don't read instruction, or maybe read, but use excessively ) to sensitive skin. You need to know which problem you are facing otherwise you are not only wasting your money in buying this and that but also 'experimenting' your skin with various products. What if the experimentation did not work out and you begin to develop skin problem. So, be wise, look into the ingredients, do survey, read previous users testimonials and read reviews from dermatologists, doctors, physicians and skincare experts.

Anyone heard of PROACTIV Solution and the one that the TV Shopping is selling currently?
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Yo-i guess the best is to find a good derma. i will go next month. hopefully to solve this acne problem. been pickling them for almost a decade. used proactive. quite ok initially. i believe there is certain period of time before our skin gets immune to certain series of skincare products. hence, changed to clinique. initially, its effects is pretty good. but it then reverses. pimples with puss never leave me a single day. wish this month full of assessments and exams will pass, then holiday to go to see derma. =p

i am using clinique soap now. should i try neutrogena facial cleansing liquid in the mean time of finding derma? rclxm9.gif

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Either CLINIQUE or PROACTIV SOLUTION are too strong for your skin. Not to mention that CLINIQUE is really strong for those who have acne and sensitive skin.

Okie, I have done several researchs towards PROACTIV SOLUTION because the company Guther-Renker and the two dermatologists are earnings A LOT for their products which some might claims to work while some night not. Anyway, the cleansing one, contains 5% of Benzoyl Peroxide did not lather and its a waste and its somehow harsh for your skin because you did not require until 5% for your skin. When you observe that you can notice that there's 3 different version of BP in the market which is 2.5%, 5% and 10%. The higher the degree means that the drier it will cause to your skin, and of course faster heal. Anyhow, if you are new to BP, go for the MILDER version, not straight to 10% otherwise you will be crying and jumping because you will feel burning sensation on your skin.

I understand that ones really want to heal faster but for ACNE, patient is really a key factor that you really need to look into. Back to PROACTIV Toner, it contains AHA( Alpha Hydroxy Acid), and its really not too recommended to those who have sensitive skin because AHA tends to irritate fragile skin. That's why they come out with BHA ( Beta Hydroxy Acid ) because its more stable and MILD. Okie, lastly, the repairing lotion is the best product in the whole set of regimen. It contains 2.5% of BP but the price is really too expensive if you gonna apply it to your whole face.

Thereby, I would say that PROACTIV SOLUTION is a OK products but the price is too high already. Some might not afford it..smile.gif

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OoO. I really have sensitive skin. Thinking of what to use. =(
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My skin is extremely sensitive. Listed are stuff I tried:

1. Minocycline
2. Dalacin C
3. Tetracycline
4. Doxycycline
5. Proactiv

Number 1 to 4 are the pills and they were great at the beginning. But after sometime, my body got immune to it and it become useless/

Number 5, never do good at all. Try reading reviews around, Proactiv only do good for the 1st few months, after that your skin will get worse. But there's still some cases where it did pretty well.

From my experience I would never recommend and pill, but if you want you might want to try doxycycline/minocycline/tetracycline. This is mostly what a derm will give you if you pay them a visit. They'll only give you ro-accutane as a last resort.

I would want to recommend two brand name, for cleanse/tone/mosturize purpose. They were Avene and RoC. They are doctor recommended brand and i've tried both. Extremely good for sensitive skin. I'm not doing any promotion, just to share smile.gif

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what the use of doxycycline/minocycline/tetracycline????
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rainwen,

They are pills that you consume to prevent acne from forming. Anyway, from the list that Chester mentioned, he tried everything and finally comes into a brand that suits him. Yup, the situation always happen to one that try desperately for everything that he/she could get, and finally he/she got it. So, stick on it. I would not say that this brand is good for you will be also good for him. It really varies. There are many kind of sensitive skins which I forgot their scientific name as what my mum has told me years before.

Chester,

Proactiv Solution did not work. Why? As you scrutinize the ingredients and read past testimonials, you will discover that most of the patients are from american, which their weather and temperature is different. Imagine that Glycolic Acid in the toner mixed with the sweat will cause chemical reaction. You are like applying a shield on your face, which when you sweats, it melts, sometimes go into your eye and its stinging! Avene is a well known brand, using the natural spring ( if I'm not mistaken) and natural ingredients. Roc is also considered ok for sensitive skin.

Anyway, heard a brand name NEOSTRATA? I am currently doing survey about this brand. As most of my feedback told me this brand is too strong for acne.
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@Jinyee

i hv acne problem for 8 years...hv been tried many product but always failed!!!....actually my acne problem because of one product that my aunt recommend me to use, she said its natural ingredient product, its a "nutrimetics" did u hear b4??

now my acne slowly reduce by using mild cleanser Neutrogena fragrance free & Neutrogena on the spot.

ok, my question is....i like to wear make up....what kind of make up/brand that suitable for acne face??
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@Jinyee

i hv acne problem for 8 years...hv been tried many product but always failed!!!....actually my acne problem because of one product that my aunt recommend me to use, she said its natural ingredient product, its a "nutrimetics" did u hear b4??

now my acne slowly reduce by using mild cleanser Neutrogena fragrance free & Neutrogena on the spot.

ok, my question is....i like to wear make up....what kind of make up/brand that suitable for acne face??
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Good to know that your acne condition is better after using Liquid Neutrogena and Neutrogena On-the-spot. Both of them are great acne products in my top10 list.

For make-up, try to avoid thick foundation. Look for the words 'non-comedogenic' the time you purchase. Well, I rarely use makeup, only lipsticks everyday when working. Perhaps you could tell me your current makeup brand, then I will go for a look. wink.gif
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Those are antibiotics which is very good to reduce imflamation and acnes the fast way. But however it have a little side effects and is not recommended. Like what Jinyee80 said, we all tried a lot of stuff before we finally settle down for a brand that suit us. However, we can be a little wise in choosing a brand. I dont know about others, but I went to the cosmetic shop as I have no other choice already. Neutrogena, Nivea, Biore etc etc that could be purchase in any market is not doing any good. Cosmetic shop recommended me Avene and RoC, both brand are doctor recommended and are very good for oily sensitive skin. They dare to guarantee you good result and i'm glad I gave it a try. I would recommend Aven to you if you have oily skin. However this is a very personal choice and its opinion varies for every individual. Its way better than any other pill. But no matter what u use, remember, NEVER wash your face more than twice a day. It aint gonna do any good. And make sure you use mosturiser as well. Hope this give you a bit info.

jinyee80: Tell me more about neostrata please.

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Okie, Chester, I never come across that a guy will be conscious towards acne because some of my male friends didn't really bother them although its kinda of in severe condition already.

Let you know more about Neostrata soon. Anyway, mind to share your journey of battling acne ? Because to be honest, I really need guy's opinion regarding acne too. See how's the feel and what did they do.
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Good to know that your acne condition is better after using Liquid Neutrogena and Neutrogena On-the-spot. Both of them are great acne products in my top10 list.

For make-up, try to avoid thick foundation. Look for the words 'non-comedogenic' the time you purchase. Well, I rarely use makeup, only lipsticks everyday when working. Perhaps you could tell me your current makeup brand, then I will go for a look. wink.gif
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im using mixed brand for make up laugh.gif
i use brand silky girl for foundation (its SPF20, non-comedogenic, fragrance free & oil free), compact powder & blush, i choose this brand coz light for my skin & cheap also rclxms.gif

for eye shadow i use mac, shu uemura & ZA,

i never wear lipstick, only lipgloss from estee lauder & shu uemura

consealer artistry

make up remover TISS from shiseido

thats all my make up range, i love to make up but hate it after few hours....coz all my make up will faded, coz i hv very oily face cry.gif

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dya_ungu,

Almost every makeup you used are branded, so I have no doubt towards these well known brands. Anyway, about the fading of makeup, seems that you really need something to 'soak' up the excessive oil from your skin. Do you try to use Clean&Clear oil removing film before? The blue color one? Its made from silicone sheet and the oil soaking degree is very high. Otherwise you could use other oil blotting sheets.

I will need to dig out my information before I would recommend you other thing. Let you know, perhaps tomorrow. Going to bed now, YAWN...tomorrow working:)
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yeah...i use Clean&Clear oil removing film also, and the oil soaking is superb....but its leceh hv to use that all the time sad.gif

i tried use clean & clear toner to control oil, but seem it doing nothing so i stop using that.

ok, thx a lot jinyee....im goin bed also smile.gif
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QUOTE(jinyee80 @ Jul 23 2006, 11:03 PM)
Okie, Chester, I never come across that a guy will be conscious towards acne because some of my male friends didn't really bother them although its kinda of in severe condition already.

Let you know more about Neostrata soon. Anyway, mind to share your journey of battling acne ? Because to be honest, I really need guy's opinion regarding acne too. See how's the feel and what did they do.
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I reckon almost all(if not all) males felt the way like female do when they have acne, especially severe acne. Maybe they just dont show it. My main problem is I only cleanse, and dint use toner or mosturiser. Guess there's where it gets worse and until my parent start complaining, I never realise it was there. So i started taking pills. Mino, doxy,tetra, dalacin C, u name them. But soon i realise that for a sensitive skin, we need to mosturise it. Ever since, my skin is under control.


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Hi, do you know how to control your ACNE. I like to share with you here. share with me how you control and how you make the solution when it's grows


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- wash your face 2 times a day with a gentle soap.
- change your towel every day. bacteria thrives on damp cloth.
- wash your hands often as they carry bacteria.
- don't squeeze, pick, scratch. you may get scars.
- avoid getting a sunburn or getting stressed. remember to exercise often.



Just let me know any problem you have. I will let you know a good solution. becouse of our profesional beautition and maybe with thier experiance they will try to send you the free tester to solve it.

hopefully to get feedback from yours soonest.

Thanks.

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Hi I am new here, but hope that you all can support this topic.

Thankyou very much.

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@chester

what brand moisturiser are u using??? mind to recommend me one product which is light, mild & safe for sensitive skin
i never use moisturiser before, coz i think oily face no need moisturiser laugh.gif but i was wrong doh.gif
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this topic already open by jinyee, pls refer this thread, the topic maigh b different...but inside already explain all about acne, how to prevent, what product is safe for acne, etc etc.....

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=308877



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what kind of ingredients we shd avoid when buying products??

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can we use cleanser,toner and mosturizer not in same brand?????

well, i seldom use toner and mosturizer one..
should i start to use from now onward????
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can we use cleanser,toner and mosturizer not in same brand?????

well, i seldom use toner and mosturizer one..
should i start to use from now onward????
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QUOTE(dya_ungu @ Jul 24 2006, 09:03 AM)
@chester

what brand moisturiser are u using??? mind to recommend me one product which is light, mild & safe for sensitive skin
i never use moisturiser before, coz i think oily face no need moisturiser laugh.gif but i was wrong doh.gif
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I'll strongly recommend you Avene, from my experience, its way better than any other pills I took. :thumb:

But please dont wash ur face more than twice a day although its very oily..
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jinyee80,

Hope u can give me some advice.
I have oily face.
Now I'm using a solution called Eryderm 2% recommend by my local pharmacist.
I just wash my face with TOLSOM cleanser (from Amway) and apply the Eryderm day and night.
Sometimes it works sometimes doesn't on my acne.

Any comments? thx~!
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hey i am using the ceptahil u recommended. i must say there is less oil but the nose and forehead is still oil prone. what do i do?

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QUOTE(dya_ungu @ Jul 24 2006, 09:09 AM)
this topic already open by jinyee, pls refer this thread, the topic maigh b different...but inside already explain all about acne, how to prevent, what product is safe for acne, etc etc.....

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=308877
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Is ok to learn more also good rite. by the way may i know what products you are using now? do you have that problem?

thanks for your reply
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I would say AVOID synthetic oil products. I recommend you Neutrogena® Oil-Free Moisture For Sensitive Skin. It can be easily pump up, so no wastage. Its really suitable for sensitive skin. Use about twenty cent coin amount is sufficient to cover your whole face. Apply little bit more when you are in air-cond .
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As if your face tend to be VERY oily in air-cond, then its probably because your skin is dry in but oily out. So, you need to moisturize deeply to let your skin balance it off. I would recommend Cetaphil® Moisturizing Lotion for this kind of situation.
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Actually, I didn't stick on one moisturizer but I will see the condition where I will be in. Obviously I would not have until 5-6 moisturizers, but 1-2 is okie for different situation.

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QUOTE(Chester @ Jul 24 2006, 07:00 PM)
I'll strongly recommend you Avene, from my experience, its way better than any other pills I took. :thumb:

But please dont wash ur face more than twice a day although its very oily..
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may i know where can I get Avene products? is it easily available @drugstore or on counter products? I think I heard its somewhere..is it the one "thermal spring" thingy ? tongue.gif oh, what about the price range? thank u in advance.

this is a very useful thread! (tho I'm not having acnes). thank u jinyee!
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I have recommended kobe8bryant Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser and he feels comfortable with it. Actually Tolsom will be a little bit dry, you are a guy, right? because Tolsom from Amway is for guy. Since you have a physician, then you would have to consult him as he/she is looking at your skin directly rather than us here. Well, to make the Eryderm works fine, you will need to have a clean skin for it to start reacting to your skin. I would really rather recommend you Cetaphil rather than Tolsom. Believe me, after you use Cetaphil, your skin will be smoother and totally not the same with your current skin condition.

Some might claim that Cetaphil cannot lather and its like thick water stuff but its really a great product that it puts aside unnecessary ingredients that would potentially affect your skin. Doctors even recommend mummy to use Cetaphil for infants because its so gentle.

Anyway, please quote me the key ingredient in Eryderm. I would like to know more about that.


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Yes, you could sue a whole range of a brand. Because some is designed specifically to compliment one to another. For toner, if you have followed up with my previous posts, you will notice that I am a person who really emphasized on MILD products. Go for something that is not strong, MILD. Keep those with AHA, BHA and etc away first. Anyway, you could provide a link for us as if you think of any brand that come across your mind.

Moisturizer, besides what i recommend dya_ungu, St.Ives has also a great moisturizer..forgot the name already. Perhaps you can have a look on that.



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QUOTE(faerie @ Jul 24 2006, 09:26 PM)
may i know where can I get Avene products? is it easily available @drugstore or on counter products? I think I heard its somewhere..is it the one "thermal spring" thingy ? tongue.gif oh, what about the price range? thank u in advance.

this is a very useful thread! (tho I'm not having acnes). thank u jinyee!
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You can get it at Guardian, and any counter that sell skincare products. It easily reachable. Anyway, the price is not really cheap. Anyway, gonna invest the money in if you believe on it!

Though I am not a fan of Avene, I do recommend one of their products which I think is really good to use when you feel your skin is a little dry. Its convenience too!

The Avene Thermal Spring Water
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thanks jinyee, this saturday will go find that moisturiser thumbup.gif
i think neutrogena range is suitable for my skin.

if wanna make up, is it hv to apply ....
moisturiser - foundation - powder ??? they said its a base, is it wont clog my pores??
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QUOTE(jinyee80 @ Jul 24 2006, 09:27 PM)
PentSY,

 
  I have recommended kobe8bryant Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser and he feels comfortable with it. Actually Tolsom will be a little bit dry, you are a guy, right? because Tolsom from Amway is for guy. Since you have a physician, then you would have to consult him as he/she is looking at your skin directly rather than us here. Well, to make the Eryderm works fine, you will need to have a clean skin for it to start reacting to your skin. I would really rather recommend you Cetaphil rather than Tolsom. Believe me, after you use Cetaphil, your skin will be smoother and totally not the same with your current skin condition.

Some might claim that Cetaphil cannot lather and its like thick water stuff but its really a great product that it puts aside unnecessary ingredients that would potentially affect your skin. Doctors even recommend mummy to use Cetaphil for infants because its so gentle.

Anyway, please quote me the key ingredient in Eryderm. I would like to know more about that.
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Ingredient in Eryderm: Erythoromycin 20mg, polyethylene glycol, acetone and alcohol 77%.
Tell me more abt this product if possible.

Where can I get Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser?
Guardian got?
Btw, I'm a guy. smile.gif
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dya_ungu,

Yes, moisturizer 1st. Let it dry out by itself. Then apply foundation. Smear it smooth and evenly. Do not apply too thick. Yup, Neutrogena produces really good products, but recently their new range of products intend to mix different skin type to another. The marketing team of Neutrogena is too eager to gain more stake in the skincare market which their recent products will somehow are not as good as their predecessor.

Liquid Neutrogena is one of my top 3 facial cleanser list for recommendation. Its really the products that was used since the old times.



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jinyee...

what about toner?? can u recommend me one smile.gif

im planning to buy stila consealer, and the ingredients as follow, is it safe fo sensitive skin? sorry for asking many question

http://www.sephora.com/browse/product.jhtml?id=P8854


Jojoba Esters,Glyceryl Triacetyl Ricinoleate, Isopropyl Palmitate , Beeswax (Cera Alba) , Ozokerite , Bis-Diglyceryl Polyacyladipate-2 , Cyclomethicone , Kaolin , Octyldodecyl Stearoyl Stearate , Euphorbia Cerifera (Candelilla) Wax , Copernicia Cerifera (Carnauba) Wax , Trioctyldodecyl Citrate , Propylparaben , [+/-(May Contain) Mica , Titanium Dioxide (Ci 77891) , Iron Oxides (Ci 77491, Ci 77492, Ci 77499).

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Ingredient in Eryderm: Erythoromycin 20mg, polyethylene glycol, acetone and alcohol 77%.
Tell me more abt this product if possible.

Where can I get Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser?
Guardian got?
Btw, I'm a guy.  smile.gif
thx
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The first time I looked through the ingredient list you provide, straight away I shook my head. 77% of alcohol is really overdrying to your skin. I would say that you better put that product away from you.

Try Neutrogena On-the-spot, its really a good product which its mild for sensitive skin yet be able to help the skin to prevent acne.

Remember, ALWAYS ALWAYS get skincare products that their 1st until 5th ingredients do not consist of alcohol.

Yup, you can get Cetaphil at guardian or Vitacare( if I'm not mistaken). Purchase the pump version as you wouldn't waste it by accidently pouring too much.

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jinyee...

what about toner?? can u recommend me one smile.gif

im planning to buy stila consealer, and the ingredients as follow, is it safe fo sensitive skin? sorry for asking many question

http://www.sephora.com/browse/product.jhtml?id=P8854
Jojoba Esters,Glyceryl Triacetyl Ricinoleate, Isopropyl Palmitate , Beeswax (Cera Alba) , Ozokerite , Bis-Diglyceryl Polyacyladipate-2 , Cyclomethicone , Kaolin , Octyldodecyl Stearoyl Stearate , Euphorbia Cerifera (Candelilla) Wax , Copernicia Cerifera (Carnauba) Wax , Trioctyldodecyl Citrate , Propylparaben , [+/-(May Contain) Mica , Titanium Dioxide (Ci 77891) , Iron Oxides (Ci 77491, Ci 77492, Ci 77499).
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Isopropyl palmitate. It is used in cosmetics as a thickening agent and emollient. As is true for any emollient or thickening agent, it can potentially clog pores, depending on the amount used in the product.

Well, consealer is not that recommend dear dya_ungu. Kaolin, as named as Talc may clog pores. Titanium Oxide and Iron Oxides are agent that helps to reflect sunlight, also known as sunscreen and they may potentially clogging pores.

Stay put on your foundation will be advised. Anyway, you could use concealer during important events, otherwise for normally usage, it will really exhausting your skin.



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QUOTE(faerie @ Jul 24 2006, 09:26 PM)
may i know where can I get Avene products? is it easily available @drugstore or on counter products? I think I heard its somewhere..is it the one "thermal spring" thingy ? tongue.gif oh, what about the price range? thank u in advance.

this is a very useful thread! (tho I'm not having acnes). thank u jinyee!
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It's not easily available, sometimes you could find some of them in Guardian but they are very limited. You'll need to go to cosmetic shop like s.a.s.a to get it if you want to get the complete range, that is cleanser, toner and mosturiser. Add all up gonna cost you more or less RM180 that will last for around 3 months to 6 months
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Isopropyl palmitate. It is used in cosmetics as a thickening agent and emollient. As is true for any emollient or thickening agent, it can potentially clog pores, depending on the amount used in the product.

Well, consealer is not that recommend dear dya_ungu. Kaolin, as named as Talc may clog pores. Titanium Oxide and Iron Oxides are agent that helps to reflect sunlight, also known as sunscreen and they may potentially clogging pores.

Stay put on your foundation will be advised. Anyway, you could use concealer during important events, otherwise for normally usage, it will really exhausting your skin.
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thanks for the advice, im not using consealer for daily use, only for special occasion to cover up my pimples & scars.

for daily one i only use foundation + powder when i go to office.


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Is ok to learn more also good rite. by the way may i know what products you are using now? do you have that problem?

thanks for your reply
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not only girls having acne problem,mens also having acne problem too. i think you/mod shd move this thread to fashion & beauty section, coz if ur thread in girls club thats mean boys not allowed to participate

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not only girls having acne problem,mens also having acne problem too. i think you/mod shd move this thread to fashion & beauty section, coz if ur thread in girls club thats mean boys not allowed to participate

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jinyee, u're really a good skin consultant... i've been following this topic and i guess i should ask u some question... tongue.gif

i have acne for 10+ years now... my face got scars and pimples, sometimes puss... cry.gif

my combination now is estebel (from DHCL, sorry for the spelling) toner and facial foam, and Simple Shine Oil Control Matte Moisturizer (something like that)...

currently, the pimple is put under control, still got puss but the oil can be as much as cooking oil... i really want to control the oil... icon_question.gif will the Clean & Clear oil removing film helps? and also the neutrogena on-the-spot helps?

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guys can participate in girl's club's threads. it's just that they can't open a thread in girl's club except for the fashion & beauty subforum.

i'll merge the threads (this one & jinyee80's one)

please kindly search before you open a new thread. wink.gif
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QUOTE(dya_ungu @ Jul 25 2006, 08:55 AM)
not only girls having acne problem,mens also having acne problem too. i think you/mod shd move this thread to fashion & beauty section, coz if ur thread in girls club thats mean boys not allowed to participate

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Well, acne did not choose its 'victim'. Some might get it within puberty, and stop while some persist for longer period; some might don't get it during puberty but after certain situation such as having baby and etcetra.

Yup, I agree that we should let guys to post their problems as well. Really need some feedbacks from the guys as I am currently doing research and review towards acne and certain brands. blush.gif


QUOTE(nicKit @ Jul 25 2006, 12:09 PM)
jinyee, u're really a good skin consultant... i've been following this topic and i guess i should ask u some question... tongue.gif

i have acne for 10+ years now... my face got scars and pimples, sometimes puss... cry.gif

my combination now is estebel (from DHCL, sorry for the spelling) toner and facial foam, and Simple Shine Oil Control Matte Moisturizer (something like that)...

currently, the pimple is put under control, still got puss but the oil can be as much as cooking oil... i really want to control the oil... icon_question.gif will the Clean & Clear oil removing film helps? and also the neutrogena on-the-spot helps?

notworthy.gif thanks! u're the best notworthy.gif
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Well, thank you for the compliment ( dare not to take it at first ). Having acne for 10+ years is not a really serious problem if you start having it during your standard 6 or form 1 time. The problem might persist and it might stop automatically during a session as if its due to hormon. However, if its because you are having sensitive skin and yet using harsh products, then I have to say sorry to you because you might not be getting acne for a longer time but you are also harming your skin.

Anyway, you really need to scrutinize into the root rather than eliminating one pimple on your right, then another pops up from your left. So, for having it for 10 years, I would recommend you to either look into your skin type and other criteria.

Puss is because your skin is dry in oily out. Well, you may need to apply something that is moisturizing yet is non comedogenic. SIMPLE Oil Control moisturizer will only helps to moisturize your surface layer of skin rather than your whole skin which consists of dermis and epidermis. It may control the oil as first, as it forms a film on the top of your skin, its like shielding it out but as time goes by, your inner layer of skin will feel dry because it cannot breathe. So, to moisturize itself, your skin by itself develop extra sebum to keep your skin in balance, the inner and the outer part.

That's why I emphasize, and always emphasize on products that did not really make your skin worse as it claims it will help at first ( their marketing strategy ). Estebel, well, I would highly recommend you to put aside your current facial cleanser, substitute it with my favorite Cetaphil and put aside SIMPLE and your toner as well. As in toner, many brands intend to put large amount of alcohol inside, as their perception is that alcohol will be a good anti-bacterial agent but it hurts your skin if its too dry.

For every person that PM me for their acne problem, I would sincerely recommend them to change to the products that I recommended. The mighty CETAPHIL GENTLE FACIAL CLEANSER, and again the NEUTROGENA ON-THE-SPOT. For moisturizer, you may go for Neutrogena® Oil-Free Moisture for Combination Skin as it will helps in soaking extra sebum on your face with cyclomethicone ( its silicone that soak up oil ).

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jinyee80:- Do u have any good product recommend for acne redness mark leave on skin?

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Red marks, we called it as hyperpigmentation. It will heal its owns but it might vary from one personnel to another.

Okie, for red marks. I will say that no necessary product you need to use particulary for this, otherwise if its a scar, then I will recommend you something.

Don't really believe on those whitenning and lightenning products out there because it will really burden your skin and it might also cause other skin problems. Well, just use a SPF moisturizer when you gonna go out, under the sun, then again moisturize your skin properly at night, I think its sufficient for the skin itself to heal by its own.

Our skin can rejuvenate itself, just that sometimes the products that we used may delay the process. So, clean well, moisturize well, then its ok already. Don't feel embarass about that anyway, and please do not use heavy make up to cover it. Let it be and it will heal by its own rather than applying ABC products in, which you would not want to risk your skin!


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as i read from many books, net & mags....basic to clean our face is
cleanser + tonic + moisturiser
now still confused which tonic shd i use & safe for my sensitive skin, currently i use clean & clear toner, is it ok to combine with neutrogena product???
i do mask my face twice a month using neutrogena hydrating mask too.

but when i read clean & clear toner ingredient there is contain fragrance & alcohol, is it safe for my face?
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QUOTE(dya_ungu @ Jul 25 2006, 10:05 PM)
as i read from many books, net & mags....basic to clean our face is
cleanser + tonic + moisturiser
now still confused which tonic shd i use & safe for my sensitive skin, currently i use clean & clear toner, is it ok to combine with neutrogena product???
i do mask my face twice a month using neutrogena hydrating mask too.

but when i read clean & clear toner ingredient there is contain fragrance & alcohol, is it safe for my face?
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My goodness. C&C toner contains a lot of alcohol and should be prevented. Yup, some books guide you so but its not compulsory. It varies for one to another. Well, stick to your Liquid Neutrogena and Neutrogena on-the-spot and what's the moisturizer are you using currently?

Mask is ok.
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jinyee80, what about alcohol thing? Can you tell me what alcohol actually do?
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Nice and very imformative post rclxms.gif Jinyee

Let me add my cent worth of opinion bout red marks and dark spots caused by acne. While I totally support Jinyee's advice on letting red marks heal on its own but I do believe that using spot/lightening treatment would help with those dark spots.
Most people have this misconception that whitening/lightening products would help them to achieve total paleness or simply a total "whiter" look like those faces in advertisment. In reality, lightning/whitening products help to even out skin tone, dispersing dark spots and thus making the face seem fairer and more even toned instead of pale white.
Lightening or whitening products may be used to hasten up the dispersion of dark spots. Some ingredients contain in lightening products such as mulberry, kojic acid and licorice can help lighten spots and evening out skin tone. However again it come down to the matter of suitability for the skin. Not all lightening products may work on your skin and yes some might cause rash and irritation but we cant deny that lightening products are all useless. Those ingredients are clinically proven =)

For more information on marks please refer to these links
Skin care physicians
http://www.skincarephysicians.com/acnenet/scarring.html
Acne.org
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php?showtopic=35143
SKin Care Health
http://skin-care.health-cares.net/skin-whitening.php

And also I would like to share a product review bout a popular cleanser used by many of my friends which I found to be quite harsh on skin actually (especially those with sensitive skin) The brand name is Eskinol Facial Cleanser range for acne. (originated from The Philippines) One thing for sure, I found out tat their acne cleanser range contains strong Denatured Ethanol (alcohol). Although it claims to be "effective against pimple causing bacteria" I found it would dry out your skin. Alcohol would dry out your skin by stripping of the natural moisture of your skin.Please try to avoid this product for those with sensitive skin.
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jinyee80, what about alcohol thing? Can you tell me what alcohol actually do?
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When alcohols have low molecular weights they can be drying and irritating. The alcohols to be concerned about in skin-care products are ethanol, denatured alcohol, ethyl alcohol, methanol, benzyl alcohol, isopropyl, and SD alcohol, which can be extremely drying and irritating to skin.
(Sources: "Skin Care from the Inside Out and Outside In," Tufts Daily, April 1, 2002; eMedicine Journal, May 8, 2002, volume 3, number 5, www.emedicine.com; Cutis, February 2001, pages 25?7; and Contact Dermatitis, January 1996, pages 126).

When these ingredients are at the top of an ingredient list it is problematic for all skin types, when they are at the end of an ingredient list there isn't enough concentration present to be considered a problem for skin.

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My goodness. C&C toner contains a lot of alcohol and should be prevented. Yup, some books guide you so but its not compulsory. It varies for one to another. Well, stick to your Liquid Neutrogena and Neutrogena on-the-spot and what's the moisturizer are you using currently?

Mask is ok.
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i didn't use any moisturiser before laugh.gif
coz my skin is oily type, i think my face no need for moisturiser sweat.gif

do i hv to change another toner??? or it is necessary to use toner?

jinyee, i shoud thank you for this usefull thread notworthy.gif

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Well, thank you for the compliment ( dare not to take it at first ). Having acne for 10+ years is not a really serious problem if you start having it during your standard 6 or form 1 time. The problem might persist and it might stop automatically during a session as if its due to hormon. However, if its because you are having sensitive skin and yet using harsh products, then I have to say sorry to you because you might not be getting acne for a longer time but you are also harming your skin.

Anyway, you really need to scrutinize into the root rather than eliminating one pimple on your right, then another pops up from your left. So, for having it for 10 years, I would recommend you to either look into your skin type and other criteria.

Puss is because your skin is dry in oily out. Well, you may need to apply something that is moisturizing yet is non comedogenic. SIMPLE Oil Control moisturizer will only helps to moisturize your surface layer of skin rather than your whole skin which consists of dermis and epidermis. It may control the oil as first, as it forms a film on the top of your skin, its like shielding it out but as time goes by, your inner layer of skin will feel dry because it cannot breathe. So, to moisturize itself, your skin by itself develop extra sebum to keep your skin in balance, the inner and the outer part.

That's why I emphasize, and always emphasize on products that did not really make your skin worse as it claims it will help at first ( their marketing strategy ). Estebel, well, I would highly recommend you to put aside your current facial cleanser, substitute it with my favorite Cetaphil and put aside SIMPLE and your toner as well. As in toner, many brands intend to put large amount of alcohol inside, as their perception is that alcohol will be a good anti-bacterial agent but it hurts your skin if its too dry.

For every person that PM me for their acne problem, I would sincerely recommend them to change to the products that I recommended. The mighty CETAPHIL GENTLE FACIAL CLEANSER, and again the NEUTROGENA ON-THE-SPOT. For moisturizer, you may go for Neutrogena® Oil-Free Moisture for Combination Skin  as it will helps in soaking extra sebum on your face with cyclomethicone ( its silicone that soak up oil ).
thanks for the info rclxms.gif

i'll try ur recommendation n give some feedbacks...

btw, do u recommend any mask that's suitable for acne?

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QUOTE(nicKit @ Jul 26 2006, 11:45 AM)
thanks for the info rclxms.gif

i'll try ur recommendation n give some feedbacks...

btw, do u recommend any mask that's suitable for acne?

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Yeah...me too looking suitable mask for my face, currently im using netrogena hydrating mask....but i want mask that can tighten my pores, coz i hv giant pores laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dya_ungu @ Jul 26 2006, 10:59 AM)
i didn't use any moisturiser before laugh.gif
coz my skin is oily type, i think my face no need for moisturiser sweat.gif

do i hv to change another toner??? or it is necessary to use toner?

jinyee, i shoud thank you for this usefull thread  notworthy.gif
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jinyee80, hope you don't mind me to chip in a bit.

oily skin is not the same with moistured skin.

although you have oily skin, you still need to use moisturizer. since there're so many types of moisturizer (some for dry skin, some for oily skin, and some for combination), i'm pretty sure you'll be able to find one. Or perhaps jinyee80 can recommend one to you. wink.gif
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QUOTE(dya_ungu @ Jul 26 2006, 10:59 AM)
i didn't use any moisturiser before laugh.gif
coz my skin is oily type, i think my face no need for moisturiser sweat.gif

do i hv to change another toner??? or it is necessary to use toner?

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Oily type of skin doesn't mean you do not require moisturizer. Anyway, it might vary. So you should identify whether your skin is dry in oily out, or oily in and oily out as well. Normally, I will not advise you to use moisturizer during the daytime, of course when you expose to the hot sun, you began to sweat, your makeup starting to melt, your moisturizer began to turn in watery when it reacts with your sweat.

My advise would be use moisturizer at night when you sleep in the aircond. That's it. During the day, cleanse your skin, apply foundation, then you are ready for a brand new day. At night, cleanse, tone if you want, apply Neutrogena On-the-spot, wait for some time, then apply moisturizer, then rest. Take note that Neutrogena on-the-spot should never ever be used on daytime because the main ingredient Benzoyl Peroxide will cause your skin to expose more to the UV and it might also cause hyperpigmentation.

Regarding the toner, I really don't have any toner can be recommended to you. Because I can't find one that is widely available and the price is affordable and quality is compromising. Anyway, toner is not compulsory but is recommended if your daily cleanser did not cleanse well, but Cetaphil and Liquid Neutrogena could, so, basically no worries for you! laugh.gif

QUOTE(nicKit @ Jul 26 2006, 11:45 AM)
thanks for the info rclxms.gif

i'll try ur recommendation n give some feedbacks...

btw, do u recommend any mask that's suitable for acne?

again, thanks jinyee, u're the best notworthy.gif  thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif
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Mask, you might need mask for moisturization and for acne as well. I have yet to find any mask that contains NO fragrance at all. You might try Hisatmitsu wear and tear mask if you aim for convenience rather than the conventional mask. Please avoid mask that contains SULPHUR, it may be a good antiseptic, but its too harsh for the skin. Find mask with ingredients such as KAOLIN, CYCLOMETHICONE, ALLANTOIN and other properties. Avoid those mask that contains AHA and BHA as well.

QUOTE(dya_ungu @ Jul 26 2006, 12:07 PM)
Yeah...me too looking suitable mask for my face, currently im using netrogena hydrating mask....but i want mask that can tighten my pores, coz i hv giant pores laugh.gif
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Normally if you continuously using Neutrogena on-the-spot, your pore will become smaller. Anyway, pores did not really stretch big or small, if you read some professional articles in the internet. When no impurities in your pores, and the oxygen flows is smooth, then your pores will obviously look smaller. It looks bigger because there's impurities or residues stay put in your pores. It is just like corking your pores.

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jinyee80, hope you don't mind me to chip in a bit.

oily skin is not the same with moistured skin.

although you have oily skin, you still need to use moisturizer. since there're so many types of moisturizer (some for dry skin, some for oily skin, and some for combination), i'm pretty sure you'll be able to find one. Or perhaps jinyee80 can recommend one to you. wink.gif
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Indeed. Not even mind that you chip in. Would be happier if other forumers are willing to share their thoughts and post some opinions. Interaction is important. As mentioned, yup, there's moisturizer for oily skin. There's also moisturizer with dry skin, the different things is their ingredients vary. Look for non-comedogenic and oil-free when you select your moisturizer if you have oily skin. Neutrogena has a range of moisturizer than i would recommend for either day use or night use. Please revise my previous posts.

Recommendation, for daily use, go for Neutrogena® Oil-Free Moisture SPF 15 if you exposed more towards the sun.

If you did not expose that much to the sun, then probably you should try Neutrogena® Oil-Free Moisture for Combination Skin as it is a lightweight, dual-action formula that moisturizes dry areas while it controls oily shine.

At night, go for Neutrogena® Oil-Free Moisture For Sensitive Skin as it is a lightweight, water-based moisturizer that provides gentle yet effective moisturization for even the most sensitive skin.

So if you have oily-sensitive skin, morning, use Neutrogena Combination, night use Neutrogena Sensitive skin.

if you have oily-not sensitive skin, morning, use Neutrogena SPF, night Neutrogena sensitive.

if you have combination skin, morning use Neutrogena SPF or Combination,night use Neutrogena combination. blush.gif


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how to define combination skin and sensitive skin??

actually i dunno wat type of my skin la...
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i think combination skin can be sensitive skin as well and likewise.

first off, combination skin means your face consist oily skin and dry skin. usually oily part will be the T-zone and the U-zone.

and sensitive skin, i heard usually dry skin is sensitive. but i used to have oily skin until recently it's combination skin, and my skin is ever sensitive. as in you cannot use any product that's selling on the market. for example, certain facial wash will cause you rashes and itchyness.

hope that helps a bit wink.gif
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So you should identify whether your skin is dry in oily out, or oily in and oily out as well.

Normally if you continuously using Neutrogena on-the-spot, your pore will become smaller.


how to know our skin is dry in oily out, or oily in and oily out??? kinda confused doh.gif

i only apply Neutrogena on the spot direct to my pimples, how come my pore will become smaller??? coz i didn't appy on pores area sweat.gif

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how to know our skin is dry in oily out, or oily in and oily out??? kinda confused doh.gif

i only apply Neutrogena on the spot direct to my pimples, how come my pore will become smaller??? coz i didn't appy on pores area sweat.gif
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ya... can u tell us how we know what type of skin we have?
i'm also confused...

btw, is mentholatum sunplay spf 65 applicable to the face?

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QUOTE(Zoe @ Jul 27 2006, 01:49 AM)
i think combination skin can be sensitive skin as well and likewise.

first off, combination skin means your face consist oily skin and dry skin. usually oily part will be the T-zone and the U-zone.

and sensitive skin, i heard usually dry skin is sensitive. but i used to have oily skin until recently it's combination skin, and my skin is ever sensitive. as in you cannot use any product that's selling on the market. for example, certain facial wash will cause you rashes and itchyness.

hope that helps a bit wink.gif
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You are right Zoe. Combination skin tend to be sensitive as well. Basically combination skin owner would develop excessive sebum on their T-Zone, which consists of the forehead, nose until the chin. While other areas such as cheek, jawline, eye side will be dry. Well, I would recommend everyone to use sensitive skin products, well, because its more gentle to your skin. Be conservative rather than taking risk on your skin. You don't want to end up with a blue/purple color skin due to irritation.

Generally, sensitive skin products will be more gentle, less or no unnecessary addictive such as fragrance and oil-free. Anyway, those words might be deceiving for some products because it returns to be fundamental of marketing. The marketing team just wrote it down to boost the sales rather than rectifying the nature of the products.



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how to know our skin is dry in oily out, or oily in and oily out??? kinda confused doh.gif

i only apply Neutrogena on the spot direct to my pimples, how come my pore will become smaller??? coz i didn't appy on pores area sweat.gif
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I would advise you to apply Neutrogena on-the-spot to area which are acne prone. Acne can not be cured, it can only be prevented before it starts its 28 days forming cycle. Benzoyl Peroxide will clear your pores, no cork, that means the airflow through your pores is smooth, then you will notice that your pores will not be a big as the time you have dirts and sebum in your corked pores.

Okie, to make a long story short, basically dry in oily out skin means you will still feel your skin is dry but yet when you touch it, it feels oily. The happens mostly to those who are not get used to air-cond enviroment. Your skin tends not to balance of. The epidermis thought that the enviroment is too dry ( air-cond), so it produces more sebum for moisturizing purpose. However, the inner skin do not have sufficient time to react with the outer layer, then you will notice the inner part is dry, but outer is oily.

Oily in oily out is the most basic and typical oily skin. You feel oily and its really oily. Your skin shines and you felt sticky.



QUOTE(nicKit @ Jul 27 2006, 12:00 PM)
ya... can u tell us how we know what type of skin we have?
i'm also confused...

btw, is mentholatum sunplay spf 65 applicable to the face?

thanks.
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For acne, basically one would either have sensitive skin which you use inappropriate products that contribute to acne, or oily skin, you did not deal well with your skin, leaving excessive sebum and residue to accumulate, creating a decent enviroment for P.acne bacteria to survive. You might have both as well, sensitive and oily.

Of course combination skin will also get acne, mainly on oily area.

Mentholatum is applicable for skin. But as the SPF got higher, that means its potential to clog your proes will get higher as well. A SPF15 is sufficient for normal usage already. As if you go to beach, then SPF65 is ok. No point applying too much SPF on your face because there's two type of SPF, which the 1st is it creates a layer of shield to reflect the UV, so everytime your skin will looks whiter, and shiner; the latter would be it will create a layer of filter on your skin, which it decrease the level of UV into your skin, which this will reduce dark pigment from forming on your skin. Titanium Dioxide, Iron Oxide, and etc tend to be the 1st, while the 2nd, I forgot the name already whistling.gif



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@jinyee....

i just bought simple moisturiser today, and start using it at night....i found my face become more oily & feel sticky sad.gif is that normal????
is there got moisturiser without feel sticky one??? coz im not confortable with it
cethapil & neutrogena moisturiser out of stock cry.gif thats y i forced to take simple
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Please do not use other moisturizer than what is recommended as I have proven research result that the combination of certain products will work. Should you intend to select your preferred moisturizer then you would have to take the risk for it.

If there's no moisturizer, then no need to apply. Wait until it comes, apply a thin layer is ok. Anyway, only apply it at night, when you are in air-cond. If you are not, then no need. Means that day and night also no need to apply moisturizer.
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Please do not use other moisturizer than what is recommended as I have proven research result that the combination of certain products will work. Should you intend to select your preferred moisturizer then you would have to take the risk for it.

If there's no moisturizer, then no need to apply. Wait until it comes, apply a thin layer is ok. Anyway, only apply it at night, when you are in air-cond. If you are not, then no need. Means that day and night also no need to apply moisturizer.
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ok thank you
just waste money buy simple moisturiser doh.gif
anyone here using simple moisturiser???? i can sell to u with half price, just use it once only rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Zoe @ Jul 30 2006, 07:28 PM)
Jinyee, just out of curiousity. Are you a beautician?
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No, I am not. My mum is a dermatologist, she's in UK now. And I have acne during my kiddo time, so with my mum's advices and helps, I knew about acne. After years of writing products review in some websites and did several researchs and survey, I gain more knowledge about acne. Hoping that one day I might be able to come out with a book to share with others. (Don't day dreaming lar..haha)


QUOTE(dya_ungu @ Jul 30 2006, 08:01 PM)
ok thank you
just waste money buy simple moisturiser  doh.gif
anyone here using simple moisturiser???? i can sell to u with half price, just use it once only  rclxub.gif
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Can use it for your hand if you can't unload it off. Anyway, dya_ungu, are you often stay in air-cond environment?





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No, I am not. My mum is a dermatologist, she's in UK now. And I have acne during my kiddo time, so with my mum's advices and helps, I knew about acne. After years of writing products review in some websites and did several researchs and survey, I gain more knowledge about acne. Hoping that one day I might be able to come out with a book to share with others. (Don't day dreaming lar..haha)

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ohh i see i see. that's good. i used to have serious acne problem during high school as well. things get really better after i started using Clinique products.
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ohh i see i see. that's good. i used to have serious acne problem during high school as well. things get really better after i started using Clinique products.
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about 5-6 years~ right! i like the perfume too. got two of them. i have clinique happy, happy to be, and a sample of clinique simple.
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dya_ungu, are you often stay in air-cond environment?
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yup, my skin exposed to air-cond 10 hours daily, and my face tend to be oily too sad.gif
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yup, my skin exposed to air-cond 10 hours daily, and my face tend to be oily too sad.gif
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Then u will need a moisturizer. Neutrogena sensitive skin will do .

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i tried use the moisturiser simple on my hands, and its not sticky like i apply on my face :confused:
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I bought T3 Moisturizer (Orange) and T3 Mycin (Clindamycin Gel 1%). But i only use the moisturizer, don't dare to use the mycin after reading instruction inside. doh.gif
After around a month, i'm getting more pimple but smaller ones (still quite big). I used to have one or two very big ones only. Still thinking of using T3 Mycin.
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i tried use the moisturiser simple on my hands, and its not sticky like i apply on my face :confused:
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Great. Cos your hand is not as oily as your face. blush.gif


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I bought T3 Moisturizer (Orange) and T3 Mycin (Clindamycin Gel 1%). But i only use the moisturizer, don't dare to use the mycin after reading instruction inside.  doh.gif
After around a month, i'm getting more pimple but smaller ones (still quite big). I used to have one or two very big ones only. Still thinking of using T3 Mycin.
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Well, when you get smaller pimples, that means your skin is facing irritation. I suggest you change other products straight away. T3 is really not a great product. Triclosan is an irritating ingredient.
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Hi Jin Yee, I had acne problems mostly on my forehead, will my hair be the main cause of it ? because I have side parting fringe
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Hi Jin Yee, I had acne problems mostly on my forehead, will my hair be the main cause of it ? because I have side parting fringe
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Great. Cos your hand is not as oily as your face. blush.gif
Well, when you get smaller pimples, that means your skin is facing irritation. I suggest you change other products straight away. T3 is really not a great product. Triclosan is an irritating ingredient.
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You might be right, i'm getting more pimple now. I just bought Neutrogena's moisturizer and Follow Me's pimple gel. What do u think about it? Darn, i hate to these girly stuffs. I used to wash my face with body soap. : shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(suzannetan @ Aug 5 2006, 07:07 PM)
Hi Jin Yee, I had acne problems mostly on my forehead, will my hair be the main cause of it ? because I have side parting fringe
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last time i facing this prob too since my junior high school....but now no more edy....but unfortunately chage to other place....my cheek cry.gif
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i got this tips from net, dunno whether true or not

To clear up acne wash your face with a mild soap, then put egg yolk on your face and let it sit for 10 minutes. Wash it off with a warm wash cloth. Repeat this every night and within a few days you should notice a drastic difference.

I was told that egg yolk carries Vitamin A, which is often what dermatologists use to clear up acne. This has worked beautifully for me every time I used this technique.


and this is another tips...

Dissolve 3 aspirin in a teaspoon of water

Then apply the water to your blemishes over night
then wash as usual in the morning.

Asprin=salicylic acid which will shrink acne and also kill the bacteria

do this at least three times a week.

you can also use it as an all over mask just apply it let it dry for about ten minutes and then rinse.
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Aspirn Mask Dya Ungu? What it actually do guys?
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i also dunno laugh.gif just got it from net, thats y im asking it
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QUOTE(suzannetan @ Aug 5 2006, 10:16 PM)
Hmm I use quite a few, Sunsilk shampoo then conditioner, Loreal Lumi Oil, Loreal Hot straight
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I would advise you to look into the ingredient of the hair products that will leave on your hair. Use hair band to shield your forehead when you are applying hair products, this is to prevent those products to get into your skin. If you would like to know whether its the hair products problem, don't apply it for some time and then see whether your forehead is ok or not.


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You might be right, i'm getting more pimple now. I just bought Neutrogena's moisturizer and Follow Me's pimple gel. What do u think about it? Darn, i hate to these girly stuffs. I used to wash my face with body soap. : shakehead.gif
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Body soap is made for thicker skin, which is your body. Face has thinner layer of skin, so different kind of soap should be used. MILD cleanser will be advised. I would not recommend any other on-the-spot pimple gel other than NEUTROGENA ON-THE-SPOT as after I have been doing reviews and research for these while, I realised that to prevent acne, you really need a lots of Benzoyl Peroxide. Other ingredients might not be as efficient and effective. Yet, if it aggravates your acne, then you would not want to take the risk!


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last time i facing this prob too since my junior high school....but now no more edy....but unfortunately chage to other place....my cheek cry.gif
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i got this tips from net, dunno whether true or not

To clear up acne wash your face with a mild soap, then put egg yolk on your face and let it sit for 10 minutes. Wash it off with a warm wash cloth. Repeat this every night and within a few days you should notice a drastic difference.

I was told that egg yolk carries Vitamin A, which is often what dermatologists use to clear up acne. This has worked beautifully for me every time I used this technique.


Dissolve 3 aspirin in a teaspoon of water

Then apply the water to your blemishes over night
then wash as usual in the morning.

Asprin=salicylic acid which will shrink acne and also kill the bacteria

do this at least three times a week.

you can also use it as an all over mask just apply it let it dry for about ten minutes and then rinse.
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You really dunno what the factory feeds the hen, so I would not advise one to take the risk to do so. Yes, egg yolk contains Vitamin A but it will be unable to adsorb into our skin in that form. Our skin could only accept Beta-Carotene, retinol and retinyl palmitate which our organ or enzyme will turn it into Vitamin A. So, its no way the Vitamin A gonna penetrate into your skin.

Referred to as beta hydroxy acid (BHA), acid salicylic is a multifunctional ingredient that addresses many of the systemic causes of blemishes (Source: Seminars in Dermatology, December 1990, pages 305-308). For decades dermatologists have been prescribing salicylic acid as an exceedingly effective keratolytic (exfoliant), but it also is an anti-irritant This is because salicylic acid is a derivative of aspirin (both are salicylates-aspirin's technical name is acetyl salicylic acid), and so it also functions as an anti-inflammatory.


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Aspirin is commercially synthesized using a two-step process. First, phenol (generally extracted from coal tar) is treated with a sodium base generating sodium phenoxide, which is then reacted with carbon dioxide under high temperature and pressure to yield salicylate, which is acidifed, yielding salicylic acid. This process is known as the Kolbe-Schmitt reaction.


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Salicylic acid is then acetylated using acetic anhydride, yielding aspirin and acetic acid as a byproduct. It is a common experiment performed in organic chemistry labs, and generally tends to produce low yields due to the relative difficulty of its extraction from an aqueous state. The trick to getting the reaction to work is to acidify with Phosphoric acid and heat the reagents under reflux with a boiling water bath for between 40 minutes and an hour.
So, the formulation shows that aspirin is not salicylic acid. Its yielded from Salicylic acid. Therefore, please do not simply try! Honestly, just follow the simple steps that I recommend, its sufficient already. sweat.gif

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thanks jinyee smile.gif
actually a bit blured about ur explanation, coz i dun understan at all what is that laugh.gif sweat.gif all the sodium phenoxide, aspirin, acetic acid, anhydride all these word make me !@#$%^&*()_+, but....i still follow ur tips for my remedy thumbup.gif
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Oh yah, is moisturizer supposed to be applied after wash our face? Neutrogena's moisturizer is in form of cream. Feels like got a layer on our face, not comfortable. If we applied to the whole face, including lips then how about when we eat? Wouldn't it be eaten accidentally?
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Oh yah, is moisturizer supposed to be applied after wash our face? Neutrogena's moisturizer is in form of cream. Feels like got a layer on our face, not comfortable. If we applied to the whole face, including lips then how about when we eat? Wouldn't it be eaten accidentally?
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Yes, should be applied after cleansing. Its in lotion form, not cream. Apply thin and smear it evenly. Moisturizer feels like that, is this the first time you are using?

No, no one apply it to the lips, for lips, we do have lip balm. Just apply it to the face area.



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Yes, should be applied after cleansing. Its in lotion form, not cream. Apply thin and smear it evenly. Moisturizer feels like that, is this the first time you are using?

No, no one apply it to the lips, for lips, we do have lip balm. Just apply it to the face area.
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I m oso hvin acne problems...been usin lotsa skincare products but none prove to b effective...now tryin on the Dalacin T Topical Solution bought from GUardian....is this medicine effective?

and umm...my mum intro me to use aloe vera to apply on it as mask wor...effective?

any other brand dat is effective in curin acne?
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if you guys wanna buy cosmetics specially for acne, the best brand will be ettusais cause those cosmetics tht they sell are mostly for acne prone skin.
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if you guys wanna buy cosmetics specially for acne, the best brand will be ettusais cause those cosmetics tht they sell are mostly for acne prone skin.
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go to the website @ ettusais.

their cosmetics are mainly for acne prone skin ppl & there prices are quite ok.

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dalacin t is a good brand is da from oversea while c-mycin is from local brand both have da same formula and function.
last time i use it very effective but after a while my pimples get immune ad then cant work.
i am using retine A now very effective...
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dalacin t  is a good brand is da from oversea while c-mycin is from local brand both have da same formula and function.
last time i use it very effective but after a while my pimples get immune ad then cant work.
i am using retine A now very effective...
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ooh...thx for the info serenayap...

btw jinyee,my Dalacin T gona finish soon...but after one month...it seems that it does not rily seems that effective...is it advisable to chg to others?i had browse thru de topic...it seems u recommend Neutrogena...err...whts the product name...sory...cant rmember?or any other brand?i rily need to use some super effective ones as mine r quite serious....i m hvin so much on both my cheeks....T_T
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ooh...thx for the info serenayap...

btw jinyee,my Dalacin T gona finish soon...but after one month...it seems that it does not rily seems that effective...is it advisable to chg to others?i had browse thru de topic...it seems u recommend Neutrogena...err...whts the product name...sory...cant rmember?or any other brand?i rily need to use some super effective ones as mine r quite serious....i m hvin so much on both my cheeks....T_T
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Yes, I think you should change to Benzoyl Peroxide. Use Cetaphil as your cleanser. Cleanse your face twice per day, morning and night. Then at night, apply Neutrogena On-the-spot. Start to apply once per two days, then after 2 weeks, apply once per day, at night.

Should be able to see result in 2months. Remember, maximum amount of face washing per day is 2 times. DO NOT OVERWASH!!!
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i use moisturizer n put oxy10 befoe i go to sleep every night. xD
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i used to have severe acne last time too. i went to see a dermatologist in SS15 and he gave me Roaccutane...i ate it for almost a year, about 9months and i'm acne free... icon_rolleyes.gif
but the medicine dries out the skin and now i'm having combination skin, oily on T-zone and dry on cheeks....

one very important reminder for those taking Roaccutane: u MUST put on sunblock. My doc never told me anything about the side effect of this medicine and after i took it for 6 months, i went to search about it in internet and i found out that this medicine will increase your photosensivity. In layman's term, it can cause brown spots and moles!
by the time i found out, it was a bit too late, i had quite a number of new moles!

but other than drying out my skin and causes mole, this medicine had no other side effect (for me)...oh, and it dries out my bank account too! unsure.gif

jinyee80:
where can i get cetaphil? i tried searching for it in Guardian but they doesnt have the cleanser for sensitive skin, they only have for oily skin...


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hey
i used to have severe acne last time too. i went to see a dermatologist in SS15 and he gave me Roaccutane...i ate it for almost a year, about 9months and i'm acne free... icon_rolleyes.gif
but the medicine dries out the skin and now i'm having combination skin, oily on T-zone and dry on cheeks....

one very important reminder for those taking Roaccutane: u MUST put on sunblock. My doc never told me anything about the side effect of this medicine and after i took it for 6 months, i went to search about it in internet and i found out that this medicine will increase your photosensivity. In layman's term, it can cause brown spots and moles!
by the time i found out, it was a bit too late, i had quite a number of new moles!

but other than drying out my skin and causes mole, this medicine had no other side effect (for me)...oh, and it dries out my bank account too!   unsure.gif

jinyee80:
where can i get cetaphil? i tried searching for it in Guardian but they doesnt have the cleanser for sensitive skin, they only have for oily skin...
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Go to find CETAPHIL GENTLE SKIN CLEANSER. It is available throughout Guardian and Vitacare.

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Roaccutane is actually a toxin, which using in an appropriate dosage, it helps to clear up the skin. However, the side effects really draw people down. Your skin tends to flake, dry, itchy and photosensitive. Apply SPF is a MUST when you are having Accutane or Roaccutane.

Dear forumers, if possible, do not go for Accutane or Roaccutane because if using it for prolong session, your kidney and etc internal organ problems.

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It is a  prescription-only drug derived from vitamin A, and which is taken orally. It essentially stops the oil production in sebaceous glands (the oil-producing structures of the skin) and literally shrinks these glands to the size of a baby's. This prevents sebum (oil) from clogging the hair follicle, mixing with dead skin cells, and rupturing the follicle wall to create an environment where a bacterium (Propionibacterium acnes) can thrive, which can result in pimples or cysts. Normal oil production resumes when treatment is completed, and the sebaceous glands slowly begin to grow larger again, but rarely as large as they were before treatment. "Because of its relatively rapid onset of action and its high efficacy with reducing more than 90% of the most severe [acne] inflammatory lesions, Accutane has a role as an effective treatment in patients with severe acne that is recalcitrant to other therapies" (Source: Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology, November 2001, Supplemental pages 188/94).

However, Accutane is controversial for many reasons, principally because of its most insidious side effect: It has been proven to cause severe birth defects in nearly 90% of the babies born to women who were pregnant while taking it. Other commonly reported, although temporary, side effects of Accutane include dry skin and lips, mild nosebleeds (your nose can get really dry for the first few days), hair loss, aches and pains, itching, rash, fragile skin, increased sensitivity to the sun, headaches, and peeling palms and hands. More serious, although much less common, side effects include severe headaches, nausea, vomiting, blurred vision, changes in mood, depression, severe stomach pain, diarrhea, decreased night vision, bowel problems, persistent dryness of eyes, calcium deposits in tendons, an increase in cholesterol levels, and yellowing of the skin.


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I wanna ask for some advise. My face is oily and gt acne. But sometimes when it is oily the acne on it seems to be dissapear(juz telling). I gt pimples since secondary school. I try any product b4 like t3, biore, o2 and others. But they dont really help. Instead my acne become worse like become red and my face become dry. I dont knw wheter my skin is sensitive or nt as i have try lots of product but in vain. Nw i m using a facial cleanser given by a skin specialist. The cleanser is green is color and gt some medicine smell (i duno the name). And i quite works. Nw my face g less pimples. But i still hop to seek for another solution. THNZ.
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jinyee80:

I wanna ask for some advise. My face is oily and gt acne. But sometimes when it is oily the acne on it seems to be dissapear(juz telling). I gt pimples since secondary school. I try any product b4 like t3, biore, o2 and others. But they dont really help. Instead my acne become worse like become red and my face become dry. I dont knw wheter my skin is sensitive or nt as i have try lots of product but in vain. Nw i m using a facial cleanser given by a skin specialist. The cleanser is green is color and gt some medicine smell (i duno the name). And i quite works. Nw my face g less pimples. But i still hop to seek for another solution. THNZ.
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let me explain to u...actuali d cleanser that u get frm doctor nw is actuali vry dry & help u control al d acne...bt this seems doesnt help u alot. Cz once u stop using it d acne wil come bck again & ur skin also bcome vry dry as well. Cz i hv a fren who r same v ur skin condition as well. Nw her skin gt more worse(dry&alot of acne) cz of dehydrated.Our skin is same like our body also its need to be balance in term of hydro & fatty acid. So do not over use those like skin care which is too strong,its reali wil damage our skin cell & also our skin PH that protects our skin.Skin PH is the upper layer of skin before the epidermis layer. If our skin PH its too dry then it wil start peeling then our skin will not hv any protection. sad.gif
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QUOTE(jinyee80 @ Aug 12 2006, 05:00 PM)
Go to find CETAPHIL GENTLE SKIN CLEANSER. It is available throughout Guardian and Vitacare.



Roaccutane is actually a toxin, which using in an appropriate dosage, it helps to clear up the skin. However, the side effects really draw people down. Your skin tends to flake, dry, itchy and photosensitive. Apply SPF is a MUST when you are having Accutane or Roaccutane.

Dear forumers, if possible, do not go for Accutane or Roaccutane because if using it for prolong session, your kidney and etc internal organ problems.
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if given the choice..i will still use the last resort of acne treatment which is rocaccutane coz none of the product out there can cure my pimples and acnes...


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[quote=ImanAzlan,Aug 15 2006, 09:05 PM]
I've a freaking full or acne face, no, they're not big, they're small, but damn, still yellowish la...
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myb urs is nt acne..its oil clog/oil seed which is bcoz of ur skin is too oily,so it congested v d oil seed on ur face
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poohhoney:

actually the foam tat doc gv me is suitable for me. it doesnt make my skin dry. Y did u say so? U friend using the same product?

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if given the choice..i will still use the last resort of acne treatment which is rocaccutane coz none of the product out there can cure my pimples and acnes...
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Its up to your choice. Anyway, it really gives hope, at least it is the last option available. Acne really make a happy fellow depressed, from the top until the deepest hole.

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Use MILD cleanser, CETAPHIL will do and apply neutrogena on-the-spot on places that usually prone to oil seeds, its actually clogged pores. Neutrogena On-the-spot contains Benzoyl peroxide, it helps to release oxygen into the pores, dry up the clogges pores and prevent acnes from forming from the beginning.

QUOTE(nkw1987 @ Aug 15 2006, 09:29 PM)
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actually the foam tat doc gv me is suitable for me. it doesnt make my skin dry. Y did u say so? U friend using the same product?
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Its SEBAMED if I am not mistaken. Not that bad the product! shakehead.gif

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where to get the cetaphile?
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why my T zone so so oily 1????...-.-''''
any method to control it?
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actually the foam tat doc gv me is suitable for me. it doesnt make my skin dry. Y did u say so? U friend using the same product?
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ya..almost d same v urs..i duno wat is d name for d cleanser bt i knoe is sth green color also...her skin is vry dry after using it..... sad.gif
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why my T zone so so oily 1????...-.-''''
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hw oily is ur tzone? using anything rite now????
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why my T zone so so oily 1????...-.-''''
any method to control it?
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Its normal for those who owns combination skin. Maybe if you intend to minimize it, u can use clean&clear oil film ( the blue color sheets ) to 'suck' up the excessive sebum. Anyway, the main problem is how to keep oily skin area from acne? Yup, use MILD cleanser, as long as you could prevent your pores to clog, then the possibility of getting acne will be minimize.



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Hi there,

I'm a new member & this reply might be sort of late but just wanna share.

I also used to have acne problems.

I now use 2 products to maintain my skin & they are very effective for me:
1) Dalacin T Solution
(available at all pharmacies RM32 no doc letter needed)
2) Clean & Clear blemish gel
(available at all pharmacies RM11, active ingredient salicylic acid, this ingredient works for me, I cant use anything with T3 oil, I will get disaster break outs. This C&C gel works slowly though. If I've a pimple & apply this gel after washing my face, it will gradually fade without developing into a painful cyst)

I've also got back acne before. & weird to say, Dalacin T works on my face but not on my back!

So out of desperation, I tried Proactiv Solution (http://tvshopping.com.my/)

and it really works for me!!! even my long time acne scars are gone in a matter of few weeks. I only bought once, havent used it since, & my back acne have not returned.

BUT there are some points to note when using this product.

1) Must use in 3 step system. (cleanser->toner->moisturiser), e.g. if your cleanser is finished before the toner, you cannot continue using the other 2 without the 1st one, or condition will be worst.

2) Cannot mix with others. e.g. cannot use another brand of cleanser, then use the 3 step after/ before it. Then condition will remain same.

3) After start using, dont pause too long until next use. Preferably try to use eveyday. I used once a day.

4) The moisturiser (3rd step) must be applied EVENLY onto affected area. Cannot dab alot or specifically to the pimples. This will cause condition to worsen.

if you plan to try, also try not to wear clothes after application for as long as you can. It has a bleaching effect, so you have to wear white or old clothes instead of new ones.
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I'm using Clinique 3-steps, so far it works on me...
As for the pimple gel, I'm using ROC, it's great, coz it can cure the pimples as well as lighten the scars too!!


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jinyee:
wat is roc? wat is toner and moisturizer and what they can do? i use b4 but duno wat is the purpose. can pls explaine to me? for my skin type wat kind and brand of toner and mosturizer is suitable for me? can i use toner and moisturizer of defferent brand from my cleanser?

Jinyee:
u say u wannt wrtie a book? I sure with ur ability nw u sure manage to write a book in the future. wish u all the best.
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QUOTE(jinyee80 @ Aug 16 2006, 10:26 PM)
Either Guardian or Vitacare
Its normal for those who owns combination skin. Maybe if you intend to minimize it, u can use clean&clear oil film ( the blue color sheets ) to 'suck' up the excessive sebum. Anyway, the main problem is how to keep oily skin area from acne? Yup, use MILD cleanser, as long as you could prevent your pores to clog, then the possibility of getting acne will be minimize.
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U r expert in this area!! notworthy.gif

Anyway, I use Guardian Oil film (Cheaper!!) to suck excess oil in my T-zone.

Since I have enlarged pores. Shouldn't I use cleanser with microbeads to unclog the pores?? And I should use Scrub evey week to unclog my pores. Therefore, my pores will become less visible. isn't it?? (This info I read fr Magazine)

I also use product like pore- pack to pluck away my blackheads!! Should I avoid this?? (but, I just can't stand the blackhead)

How can Mild cleanser like Cetaphil suck away the blackheads?? I do use this product ocassionally.

I m so confused. (I thought I m quite knowledgeable in this area, but seens like it is not the case.)

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jinyee80:
Watis toner and moisturizer and what they can do? i use b4 but duno wat is the purpose. can pls explaine to me? for my skin type wat kind and brand of toner and mosturizer is suitable for me? can i use toner and moisturizer of defferent brand from my cleanser?

u say u wanna rite a book? I sure with ur ability nw u sure manage to write a book in the future. wish u all the best.
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Juz pass by and drop a message. lol. y no ppl reply de? need ur comment and advise le. hehe.
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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Aug 17 2006, 09:14 PM)
U r expert in this area!! notworthy.gif

Anyway, I use Guardian Oil film (Cheaper!!) to suck excess oil in my T-zone.

Since I have enlarged pores. Shouldn't I use cleanser with microbeads to unclog the pores?? And I should use Scrub evey week to unclog my pores. Therefore, my pores will become less visible. isn't it?? (This info I read fr Magazine)

I also use product like pore- pack to pluck away my blackheads!! Should I avoid this?? (but, I just can't stand the blackhead)

How can Mild cleanser like Cetaphil suck away the blackheads?? I do use this product ocassionally.

I m so confused. (I thought I m quite knowledgeable in this area, but seens like it is not the case.)
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Yup, its ok to use other oil blotting sheet, however bear in mind that cheap things did not represent good things but yet it also did not mean its a bad thing. Its your decision.

Enlarged pores. Okie, actually pores size depends on individual. Obviously guys will be larger than women. Yup, using scrub is good, but please take note to use scrub from good brand. Clean&Clear normal scrub will be okie but one thing I really concern is that they may leave residue on your skin though you have rinse with water. So, you should really take note on this.

Pore pack is ok. However, do not use it excessively. Blackheads occur when sebum+dirt+dead skin cell+P.acne bacteria. So, when you use Mild cleanser, it manage to cleanse your skin thoroughly, yet did not irritate your skin. Therefore, when your skin was not harm and was cleanse well, it will automatically built a defend shield for it to prevent any other skin problems. Why I was emphasizing MILD cleanser is to create a fundamental for your skin itself, to prevent or minimize skin problems rather than every single day depends on active ingredients that may help you see results in short time but in long time, it will actually bring side effects.

I encourage people to let your skin to act its own. Many people irritate, upset their skin by using inappropriate products and these circumstances stop the skin itself to play its normal role. Therefore you see acne..and etc.



QUOTE(nkw1987 @ Aug 18 2006, 12:14 PM)
jinyee80:
Watis toner and moisturizer and what they can do? i use b4 but duno wat is the purpose. can pls explaine to me? for my skin type wat kind and brand of toner and mosturizer is suitable for me? can i use toner and moisturizer of defferent brand from my cleanser?

u say u wanna rite a book? I sure with ur ability nw u sure manage to write a book in the future. wish u all the best.
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Well, its nor compulsory for toner should you following the regimen that i recommend. Moisturizer is used to prevent your skin from overdrying( its the simplest explaination ). It depends actually. When you find that the combination of brand A toner and brand B moisturizer works, then you could proceed on using it because everyone skin is different.



Jinyee

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jinyee, do you have any recommendation on which product is better for me to remove blackheads and whiteheads.

And I do have acne problems,so do i need to use another product?
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ok. err one more thing. ppl here talk abt acne. but besides acne, i still gt something called "hei tou" on my nose and very hard to come out even i tried to squize them out. any way to deal with it? thnz.
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haha lucky gt tis thread open by jinyee80. if not i still trying many products which are doing harm more than good to my face. lucky lucky..
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how if after i applied the acne gel from the doctor, my skin started to peel off. My mom said its good, is it so? she said its like peeling the old skin off, thus the new and so called better one.
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CRYSTALSTICK Deodrant!

Sounds really darn GILA I know...

Wash your face as usual before bedtime, whilst it's wet, rub the crystalstick deodrant over the areas you're worried about then dry as normal.

Also STEAM your face over a bowl of freshly boiled water & sea salt (1 tblspn), put a towel over your head to trap in the steam, at least once a week. Just for 10 mins only and you'll see a huge difference.

Don't touch/ squeeze/ play with pimples, your fingers just move the germs around and create more pimples.

Try and wash your face 3-4 times a day and use a half a pea sized drop of CLEAN & CLEAR facial foam each time. Rinse using a bowl/sink full of water or under a shower..DON'T rinse by cupping hands and splashing face, this leaves residue of soap on the skin and aggrevates the pimples. Each wash should leave your face feeling SQUEAKY CLEAN. If it don't squeak, it ain't clean so wash it again!

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QUOTE(nkw1987 @ Aug 18 2006, 11:18 PM)
ok. err one more thing. ppl here talk abt acne. but besides acne, i still gt something called "hei tou" on my nose and very hard to come out even i tried to squize them out. any way to deal with it? thnz.
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Yes, it is called blackhead, which is the form of the initial formation of acne.

QUOTE(Pangkey @ Aug 19 2006, 12:45 AM)
how if after i applied the acne gel from the doctor, my skin started to peel off. My mom said its good, is it so? she said its like peeling the old skin off, thus the new and so called better one.
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I would not advise people from using a peeling agent because you might be able to peel a level but it will really irritate the skin. Use scrub to exfoliate the skin rather than depending too much on the peeling agent. Should your skin is thinner in level, you will be more expose to the atmosphere and it will indeed irritate your skin. If its dried off, then its ok. Peel off is too much.

QUOTE(sofiahemma @ Aug 19 2006, 03:52 PM)
CRYSTALSTICK Deodrant!

Sounds really darn GILA I know...

Wash your face as usual before bedtime, whilst it's wet, rub the crystalstick deodrant over the areas you're worried about then dry as normal.

Also STEAM your face over a bowl of freshly boiled water & sea salt (1 tblspn), put a towel over your head to trap in the steam, at least once a week. Just for 10 mins only and you'll see a huge difference.

Don't touch/ squeeze/ play with pimples, your fingers just move the germs around and create more pimples.

Try and wash your face 3-4 times a day and use a half a pea sized drop of CLEAN & CLEAR facial foam each time. Rinse using a bowl/sink full of water or under a shower..DON'T rinse by cupping hands and splashing face, this leaves residue of soap on the skin and aggrevates the pimples. Each wash should leave your face feeling SQUEAKY CLEAN. If it don't squeak, it ain't clean so wash it again!

Hope this helps peeps

love u all

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This would not be part of my recommendation. Absolutely incorrect. Do not risk your face. Go for MILD cleanser , then apply Neutrogena on-the-spot, its already sufficient. Steaming is not required in my context. Let the skin to heal by its own. Clean&Clear facial foam is a HARSH cleanser, put it aside. It will dry out your skin.
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QUOTE(jinyee80 @ Aug 16 2006, 10:26 PM)
Either Guardian or Vitacare
Its normal for those who owns combination skin. Maybe if you intend to minimize it, u can use clean&clear oil film ( the blue color sheets ) to 'suck' up the excessive sebum. Anyway, the main problem is how to keep oily skin area from acne? Yup, use MILD cleanser, as long as you could prevent your pores to clog, then the possibility of getting acne will be minimize.
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using those oil film dun harm over face right?..ok,i'll try use it..oh yea~ did toner help minimize pore ???
yea yea,im using cetaphil which u hardly promote it at here...its kinda good,my skin get smoother than last than and ance under control now but the problem is my face got red mark tat cause of acne..kinda irritating me!!
mayb im too fair and its so obviously can even see a tiny red mark from far away sweat.gif
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Dalacin T Topical Loction for Acne . Havent try it out , any1 tried it out ?

sry is this is a duoble post, but i lazy to read thru.

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QUOTE(rainwen @ Aug 20 2006, 08:48 AM)
using those oil film dun harm over face right?..ok,i'll try use it..oh yea~ did toner help minimize pore ???
yea yea,im using cetaphil which u hardly promote it at here...its kinda good,my skin get smoother than last than and ance under control now but the problem is my face got red mark tat cause of acne..kinda irritating me!!
mayb im too fair and its so obviously can even see a tiny red mark from far away sweat.gif
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The red marks are post inflammatory hyperpigmentation. Well, it will heal by its own, so no worry. Cetaphil is great. Perhaps you may apply some whitening mask to help in acceleration of the red marks on the skin.

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Dalacin T Topical Loction for Acne . Havent try it out , any1 tried it out ?

sry is this is a duoble post, but i lazy to read thru.
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Use Neutrogena On-the-spot rather than others. Honestly.
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Jinyee, now im using 1-2-3 neutrogena range
1. liquid cleanser
2. Toner
3. moisturizer

i bought toner for acne prone skin, fighting problem skin, it is in yellowish colour, 150ML

but i just realize neutogena have so many type of toner cry.gif
am i bought the right toner fot my skin?
i saw got toner in blue botle, white botle,etc...confused here


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yeah... me too.. confusing when go to Neutrogena counter....

JinYee, found that there are 2 types of Neutrogena® Oil-Free Moisture SPF 15 (Untinted & Sheer Tint). Which one is recommended? Regarding to the Cleanser, wondering that any comments on Neutrogena's Cleanser? Neutrogena's Cleanser vs Cetaphil, which one is better?

Fyi, I have oily-not sensitive skin.
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QUOTE(jinyee80 @ Aug 20 2006, 06:02 PM)
The red marks are post inflammatory hyperpigmentation. Well, it will heal by its own, so no worry. Cetaphil is great. Perhaps you may apply some whitening mask to help in acceleration of the red marks on the skin.
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wil it take very long time to heal????
ok.i'll try it out..or u can gv some example for whitening mask from ur research,which 1 is more effective..
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what about scar left by acne.. i used to have a lot of acne last time, but now only pop up once a month.. now my face only left by ance scar (not serious case, juz around my face cheek area) .. any good product for clearing up acne scar.. cuz.. i felt so unconfidence sometimes looking at myself .. zzz ..
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anyway. thnx for the explaination on blackhead. but i wanna knw what product u will recommend to deal with it. thnz

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QUOTE(kenzai82 @ Aug 21 2006, 09:16 PM)
what about scar left by acne.. i used to have a lot of acne last time, but now only pop up once a month.. now my face only left by ance scar (not serious case, juz around my face cheek area) .. any good product for clearing up acne scar.. cuz.. i felt so unconfidence sometimes looking at myself .. zzz ..
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How about try this one and let us know? laugh.gif
http://skincarerx.com/acne-scarring.html
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QUOTE(dya_ungu @ Aug 21 2006, 09:34 AM)
Jinyee, now im using 1-2-3 neutrogena range
1. liquid cleanser
2. Toner
3. moisturizer

i bought toner for acne prone skin, fighting problem skin, it is in yellowish colour, 150ML

but i just realize neutogena have so many type of toner cry.gif
am i bought the right toner fot my skin?
i saw got toner in blue botle, white botle,etc...confused here
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Well, I would not advise people using toner with alcohol. If the alcohol amount is high, it would not be called as toner, it is astringent. Anyway, the blue bottle of Neutrogena range can be used as part of the regimen - Neutrogena alcohol-free toner. However, this toner might contain irritants as it has fragrance on it. So, its up to you whether you gonna choose it. Acne prone toner might contains salicylic acid and a bit alcohol, so I would not advise for that. For me, I would recommend one to use SK-II facial essence as toner. Pour a little amount, then pat it on your skin. I ONLY recommend SK-II's facial treatment essence as their other products simply did not manage to convince me.

QUOTE(mikimiki @ Aug 21 2006, 01:14 PM)
yeah... me too.. confusing when go to Neutrogena counter....

JinYee, found that there are 2 types of Neutrogena® Oil-Free Moisture SPF 15 (Untinted & Sheer Tint). Which one is recommended? Regarding to the Cleanser, wondering that any comments on Neutrogena's Cleanser? Neutrogena's Cleanser vs Cetaphil, which one is better?

Fyi, I have oily-not sensitive skin.
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For morning session, should your job is executed more in air-cond environment, then you should use Neutrogena Oil-Free Moisture SPF15, the untinted version will do. Otherwise if you are working in a non air-conditioned environment, no moisturizer is required.

Cetaphil Gentle Cleanser is on the top of my list, following by Liquid Neutrogena. That's all, there aren't third cleanser in my list. If you prefer Neutrogena, go for the fragrance free version of Liquid Neutrogena( anyway its more economical); should you prefer Cetaphil( it would not lather compared to Liquid Neu.), then Cetaphil Gentle Cleanser will suits u.

QUOTE(rainwen @ Aug 21 2006, 06:01 PM)
wil it take very long time to heal????
ok.i'll try it out..or u can gv some example for whitening mask from ur research,which 1 is more effective..
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Whitenning mask. Try purchase SHISEIDO's or PURE and MILD one, both owned by SHISEIDO Corp. I have confident on SHISEIDO's products.
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QUOTE(kenzai82 @ Aug 21 2006, 09:16 PM)
what about scar left by acne.. i used to have a lot of acne last time, but now only pop up once a month.. now my face only left by ance scar (not serious case, juz around my face cheek area) .. any good product for clearing up acne scar.. cuz.. i felt so unconfidence sometimes looking at myself .. zzz ..
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Elicina will gradually fade the scar should you intend to try it.
Read more about it on its official website.
http://www.elicina.com

QUOTE(nkw1987 @ Aug 22 2006, 11:38 PM)
anyway. thnx for the explaination on blackhead. but i wanna knw what product u will recommend to deal with it. thnz
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As I mentioned, follow the regimen, Cetaphil+Neutrogena on-the-spot, you will prevent acne from its beginning, which is blackhead and whitehead.

QUOTE(virtual @ Aug 23 2006, 07:49 PM)
How about try this one and let us know?  laugh.gif
http://skincarerx.com/acne-scarring.html
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I would not recommend it. Thanks.

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Hi JinYee,

Any recommendation for night time? Besides cleanser & day moisturizer, do we need any night moisturizer/repairer/mask for our skin?

Pls advice......Thx!
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hi jinyee,

need help here. using clinique clarifying lotion (which is the toner) and clinique anti blemish solutions (for daytime shield).

is it safe to use those? especially the toner? i am worried abt the possibility of having high contents of mercury in the toner.

thanks alot. =)
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Whitenning mask. Try purchase SHISEIDO's or PURE and MILD one, both owned by SHISEIDO Corp. I have confident on SHISEIDO's products.
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really?..oh~ thz u so much..
today my coll organized fund raising campaign..they selling PURE and MILD whitening mask for rm40(6 pack free 1 pack)
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hey

i'm wondering if anyone experience redness of blushes? my face will turn red almost evryday, whenever i'm exposed to heat and sun...i'm only afraid that it's Rosacea...

i'm not sure izzit because of my previous acne or otherwise...but then again, i took roacutane for almost a year and i dont have acne anymore...

pls help!
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hey jinyee,
i went thu the Elicina's website and they say the main ingredients is Allantoin, if i'm not mistaken this thing is also found in Mederma...so are they the same?

i cant use mederma cos it sting my skin....so, if they are the same...i guess i cant use Elicina too...
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I have just started taking roaccutane now. just 3 days. hope acne will go go go away.
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QUOTE(mikimiki @ Aug 24 2006, 12:01 AM)
Hi JinYee,

Any recommendation for night time? Besides cleanser & day moisturizer, do we need any night moisturizer/repairer/mask for our skin?

Pls advice......Thx!
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Night time, ok, I recommend either Neutrogena sensitive skin moisturizer or Cetaphil's moisturizer. Anyway, you will find hard to obtain the Cetaphil one in Malaysia, so you might go for Neutrogena one. In addition, should you think that you intend to get something that is lighter, you might go for QV lotion.

Mask should be used once or twice per week. For daily, cleanser, moisturizer are sufficient. You may add in toner if you want.


QUOTE(pangping1510 @ Aug 24 2006, 12:13 AM)
hi jinyee,

need help here. using clinique clarifying lotion (which is the toner) and clinique anti blemish solutions (for daytime shield).

is it safe to use those? especially the toner? i am worried abt the possibility of having high contents of mercury in the toner.

thanks alot. =)
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Well, Clinique clarifying lotion and the anti blemish are not that good. Anyway, I would really prefer that you build a solid foundation for your skin and itself will prevent from getting acne. I really did not recommend on using on-the-counter product as it might either overdry your skin or it might cause another flareups.

Should avoid mercury, its common sense. Well, if possible, stop that.


QUOTE(rainwen @ Aug 24 2006, 01:52 AM)
really?..oh~ thz u so much..
today my coll organized fund raising campaign..they selling PURE and MILD whitening mask for rm40(6 pack free 1 pack)
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Wow, you could buy some, apply once or twice per week.

QUOTE(chloe_yee87 @ Aug 24 2006, 02:17 PM)
hey

i'm wondering if anyone experience redness of blushes? my face will turn red almost evryday, whenever i'm exposed to heat and sun...i'm only afraid that it's Rosacea...

i'm not sure izzit because of my previous acne or otherwise...but then again, i took roacutane for almost a year and i dont have acne anymore...

pls help!
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If it only turns red due to exposure to sun, then its ok. Your blood capilary( I dunno whether I spelled it correctly) is near to your skin and you might be too fair, so this kind of situation occurs. No worry. If its rosacea, your skin will peel.

Perhaps it might be the side effect of attaining roaccutane. You should know the side effect. Browse through google and you will find some.


QUOTE(chloe_yee87 @ Aug 24 2006, 02:43 PM)
hey jinyee,
i went thu the Elicina's website and they say the main ingredients is Allantoin, if i'm not mistaken this thing is also found in Mederma...so are they the same?

i cant use mederma cos it sting my skin....so, if they are the same...i guess i cant use Elicina too...
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Well, what is allantoin actually? Its a moisturizing properties. Mederma does not suit you, but how would you know that its was due to allantoin? Sometimes you are not suitable for some products is because one or two of their main ingredients irritate your skin. For you case, I believe it should be allium cepa in Mederma.

You can use Elicina. It uses the natural ingredient to heal and it might take longer period. If you expect faster result, can go for dermabrasion or laser. There's clinic in Jln Imbi providing the service.


QUOTE(pangping1510 @ Aug 24 2006, 04:49 PM)
I have just started taking roaccutane now. just 3 days. hope acne will go go go away.
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I hope you understand the side effect the moment you proceed for roaccutane. Good luck!
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wow...that's such a relieve jinyee! Thank god it's not rosacea!
haha..great to know that i finally found a acne scar product than i can try...

where can i get Elicina and izit expensive?
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QUOTE(chloe_yee87 @ Aug 24 2006, 11:44 PM)
wow...that's such a relieve jinyee! Thank god it's not rosacea!
haha..great to know that i finally found a acne scar product than i can try...

where can i get Elicina and izit expensive?
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Yup, its a little bit costly and you need to purchase it online. It will be shipped on Chile to Malaysia. If I am not mistaken, the total cost will be about RM200 something like that. However, for usage on face only ( it can be applied to any aprt of the body with scars), it will last 3+ months. I tried it before and its not a bad product anyway. You can have a try.

Mederma sucks. Its irritating the skin.
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aw....darn...so mah fan. I thought i can get Ellicina in pharmacies.
oh yeah, can u recomend any moisturiser that can reduce redness on my face? i;m currently using clinique's cleanser and toner but for moisturiser, i switch between olay total effect and clinique's...

somehow, i feel that after i apply them, my face will turn slightly red. So, is that an indication that i shud not use them?
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is clinelle safe for use on pimples skin? i intend to stop roaccutane as i suffer some side effects. Im currently intend to try origins

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QUOTE(chloe_yee87 @ Aug 25 2006, 01:18 PM)
aw....darn...so mah fan. I thought i can get Ellicina in pharmacies.
oh yeah, can u recomend any moisturiser that can reduce redness on my face? i;m currently using clinique's cleanser and toner but for moisturiser, i switch between olay total effect and clinique's...

somehow, i feel that after i apply them, my face will turn slightly red. So, is that an indication that i shud not use them?
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Well. I recommend you to start using Cetaphil.

QUOTE(Quen^nie @ Aug 25 2006, 09:06 PM)
is clinelle safe for use on pimples skin? i intend to stop roaccutane as i suffer some side effects. Im currently intend to try origins
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Not really for clinique. Honestly, go for cetaphil.
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Hi JinYee,

Just bought the only Cetaphil cleanser in Guardian.... but not sure is it the one that you are referring... The Cetaphil Cleanser that I bought can also be used for body & hand as well.

By the way, any recommendation for mask & toner?

Thanks........ ^0^
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Hi JinYee,

Just bought the only Cetaphil cleanser in Guardian.... but not sure is it the one that you are referring... The Cetaphil Cleanser that I bought can also be used for body & hand as well.

By the way, any recommendation for mask & toner?

Thanks........  ^0^
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Yup, you can use it for your face as well. For mask, go for Neutrogena Moisturizing mask. Toner is not necessary for you.
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Thanks for your advices.....

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jinyee80, ARE Clinelle (not Clinique) & Simple product good??
Bcause they claim themselves as non-SD- achohol & non fragance & non comogenic.

I read all ur post & u said Pure & Mild products is reliable. I was wondering the Pure & Mild Cleansing Oil for blackhead (as advertised in TV). Does it work?? Whats ur opinion??
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jinyee80, ARE Clinelle (not Clinique) & Simple product good??
Bcause they claim themselves as non-SD- achohol & non fragance  & non comogenic.

I read all ur post & u said Pure & Mild products is reliable. I was wondering the Pure & Mild Cleansing Oil for blackhead (as advertised in TV). Does it work?? Whats ur opinion??
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The cleansing oil does work. Well, I tried SIMPLE before, the result is not significant, so no point investing on it. For Clinelle, is it their package is in blue color?


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Yes, clinelle packaging in blue color. Is their products good. Even got website wor.. not sure good o not
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Clinelle product.
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Hi JinYee,

Managed to get Cetaphil Moisturizing Cream. Wondering that does this is the moisturizer that you recommended?

By the way, would like to know that can this Cetaphil Moisturizing Cream used for morning session in air-cond environment? Or you still recommend use Neutrogena Oil-Free Moisture SPF15 (the untinted version) for morning session?

Pls advices...
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QUOTE(mikimiki @ Aug 27 2006, 12:43 AM)
Hi JinYee,

Managed to get Cetaphil Moisturizing Cream. Wondering that does this is the moisturizer that you recommended?

By the way, would like to know that can this Cetaphil Moisturizing Cream used for morning session in air-cond environment? Or you still recommend use Neutrogena Oil-Free Moisture SPF15 (the untinted version) for morning session?

Pls advices...
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Yes, if its green package one, then you are right. Morning session, no matter in air-cond or not, Neutrogena Oil-Free Moisture SPF 15 will be the one to use. Apply even and a thin layer. A 50cent coin of it, then smear it with both palm, then apply to your whole face besides lips and eye area.

Cetaphil can be used at night, especially when you sleep in air-cond. Otherwise its not necessary since recent temperature at night is high, so hot.


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Jinyee80,

I'm using Avene cleanser and some RoC mosturiser and toner. I was wondering if I could switch back to normal cleanser that could be purchase easily as Avene is pretty hard to find. Im thinking of going for pure and mild cleanser. What do you think?

P/S: by the way, what air cond effect on face? I felt it doesnt do good to face in airconditioning places..
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Jinyee80,

I'm using Avene cleanser and some RoC mosturiser and toner. I was wondering if I could switch back to normal cleanser that could be purchase easily as Avene is pretty hard to find. Im thinking of going for pure and mild cleanser. What do you think?

P/S: by the way, what air cond effect on face? I felt it doesnt do good to face in airconditioning places..
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Pure and Mild Cleanser, I have not try it before. However, its under SHISEIDO, should be okie. Let me know about the ingredients.

Yup, indeed, when you gace directly to the air-cond, it will gradually dry out your skin. So, make sure the temperature is not that cold and not that hot. Perhaps 26 Celsius is considered good.


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Anyone that try the regimen of combining CETAPHIL and NEUTROGENA, please come in and post your experience.Thanks!



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Anyone that try the regimen of combining CETAPHIL and NEUTROGENA, please come in and post your experience.Thanks!
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Where cn i get CETAPHIL ???
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Guardian or Vitacare. Please refers to previous posts because I have been mentioning this several times.Thanks
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Ok ok! Thank! I got 1 question here... I'm working in an Air-con room, as i step out to my room where there are no air-con, my forehead and face will start sweating and my face will be full of oil and dust ! Is there a way to prevent my face from sweating so much? Thank!
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Anyone that try the regimen of combining CETAPHIL and NEUTROGENA, please come in and post your experience.Thanks!
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I already use both products, Ceaphil Gentle Cleanser & Neutrogena on the Spot!!

I feel tht my skin is smoother after using Cetaphil cleanser continuosly for 1+ week. Since I don't have pimples, I use neutrogena on the Spot to combat blackhead, haven't see result yet since I just start using it.

jinyee80,How about dermologica?? Many of my friends recommend me to use it!! But,Is it good?? But is damn expensive.
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Hi Irresistible,

Wondering that how are you going to use the Neutrogena On-The-Spot to combat blackhead? Apply it whole face like mask?

I got alot of blackhead on my face especially nose area.. T_T
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Yes, if its green package one, then you are right. Morning session, no matter in air-cond or not, Neutrogena Oil-Free Moisture SPF 15 will be the one to use. Apply even and a thin layer. A 50cent coin of it, then smear it with both palm, then apply to your whole face besides lips and eye area.

Cetaphil can be used at night, especially when you sleep in air-cond. Otherwise its not necessary since recent temperature at night is high, so hot.
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Hi JinYee,

Just wondering that why the Cetaphil Moisturizing Cream doesn't suit for Morning session in AirCon environment?

If I'm not sleeping in air-cond room, would it means that Cetaphil Mosturizer can't be use at night?

Pls advices & Thx....
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QUOTE(mikimiki @ Aug 29 2006, 12:24 AM)
Hi Irresistible,

Wondering that how are you going to use the Neutrogena On-The-Spot to combat blackhead? Apply it whole face like mask?

I got alot of blackhead on my face especially nose area.. T_T
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Just apply to areas that are acne prone.Since your focus area is your nose, then apply a thin layer on the nose area.

QUOTE(mikimiki @ Aug 29 2006, 12:31 AM)
Hi JinYee,

Just wondering that why the Cetaphil Moisturizing Cream doesn't suit for Morning session in AirCon environment?

If I'm not sleeping in air-cond room, would it means that Cetaphil Mosturizer can't be use at night?

Pls advices & Thx....
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Cream, the portion of water in cream is relatively lesser than lotion. That means, cream will be thicker. So, imagine you apply the cream and expose to the daily environent. Its hot and you gonna sweat, so when it sweats, the cream will begin to melt away.

Its suitable for air-cond room because in air cond room, it will be drying. Say it in this way, if you feel like you intend to apply it, its okie for you to go for it.

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QUOTE(mikimiki @ Aug 29 2006, 12:24 AM)
Hi Irresistible,

Wondering that how are you going to use the Neutrogena On-The-Spot to combat blackhead? Apply it whole face like mask?

I got alot of blackhead on my face especially nose area.. T_T
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Apply on the Acne/blackhead area only , around the nose area!! Result not bad at all !!

The Pure & Mild Cleansing Oil for Blackheads (as advertised in TV) still not in the market.... at least in my place, heard it is quite good!!
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Would you recommend Cetaphil cleanser for acne prone skin? I'm using Avene cleanser which is pretty mild and good, but i plan to switch to a lower end product and easier to be found too. What do you think?

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Would you recommend Cetaphil cleanser for acne prone skin? I'm using Avene cleanser which is pretty mild and good, but i plan to switch to a lower end product and easier to be found too. What do you think?

Ingredients: Purified Water, PEG-200 Hydrogenated Glyceryl Palmate (and) PEG-7 Glyceryl Cocoate, Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate, Acrylates/Steareth-20 Methacrylate Copolymer, Glycerin, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Butylene Glycol, Phenoxyethanol, Masking Fragrance, Panthenol, PEG-60 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Disodium EDTA, Methylparaben
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Yes, cetaphil is a good cleanser for those who have acne and those who has no acne as well.

Go for Cetaphil. You will feel the different texture of your skin in as short as 2 weeks.



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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Aug 26 2006, 10:06 AM)
jinyee80, ARE Clinelle (not Clinique) & Simple product good??
Bcause they claim themselves as non-SD- achohol & non fragance  & non comogenic.

I read all ur post & u said Pure & Mild products is reliable. I was wondering the Pure & Mild Cleansing Oil for blackhead (as advertised in TV). Does it work?? Whats ur opinion??
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is the cleansing oil also effective at removing white heads? i am plagued by black head and white heads problem. cry.gif

also, i am a newbie in taking care of my skin. i shud start from the beggining la. i am a male. my skin is quite oily. what shud i buy to pamper my skin? name any product, jin yee like toner la. haha, i actually couldnt care less of my face, bu currently i am kinda fall in love with a gurl, so i would like to present in the best form. depend on u liao, sifu.
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QUOTE(bidfordun @ Aug 30 2006, 08:41 PM)
is the cleansing oil also effective at removing white heads? i am plagued by black head and white heads problem. cry.gif

also, i am a newbie in taking care of my skin. i shud start from the beggining la. i am a male. my skin is quite oily. what shud i buy to pamper my skin? name any product, jin yee like toner la. haha, i actually couldnt care less of my face, bu currently i am kinda fall in love with a gurl, so i would like to present in the best form. depend on u liao, sifu.
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Yes, cleansing oil is damn good for removing whiteheads.

For guy, no need toner, just follow the simple steps that I mentioned earlier ( please read from the beginning ). Its better to let your skin to build its own foundation, a solid one which it will itself prevent itself from other skin problems.

And good luck in aftering that girl.



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QUOTE(jinyee80 @ Aug 31 2006, 12:12 AM)
Yes, cleansing oil is damn good for removing whiteheads.

For guy, no need toner, just follow the simple steps that I mentioned earlier ( please read from the beginning ). Its better to let your skin to build its own foundation, a solid one which it will itself prevent itself from other skin problems.

And good luck in aftering that girl.
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ok, thanks. if i get her as my gf, i am gonna treat u. biggrin.gif

edit: can u show me the image of the cleasing oil? is it good at removing black heads too? how much does it cost?

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QUOTE(bidfordun @ Aug 31 2006, 12:23 AM)
ok, thanks. if i get her as my gf, i am gonna treat u. biggrin.gif

edit: can u show me the image of the cleasing oil? is it good at removing black heads too? how much does it cost?
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Pure & Mild Cleansing Oil (asvertised in TV, a beautiful Thai actress &a young boy). The price I saw in Watson is RM 13.90, quite cheap!!

Also got its mask, RM 65, something like that.


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Does repair C for Sk2 suits for acne prone skin? I find clinelle cleanser suitable for my skin. But the rest of the range i just dont like the feeling when i glide it on my skin
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Does repair C for Sk2 suits for acne prone skin? I find clinelle cleanser suitable for my skin. But the rest of the range i just dont like the feeling when i glide it on my skin
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Its not necessary for the skin. Perhaps, for acne prone skin to heal, the basic way is to cleanse it well, and apply anti-inflammatory agent. Its that simple. You dont have to make it complicated because you don't want to clog the pores.

Let your skin to get away from its prone-to-acne form, then after certain years, you may get back to other skincare products.



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thanks jinyee. Does it mean i no need to protect it frm sunlight and use moisturiser as well. What do u tink about Kanebo whitening toner and moisturiser?
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thanks jinyee. Does it mean i no need to protect it frm sunlight and use moisturiser as well. What do u tink about Kanebo whitening toner and moisturiser?
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You could protect your skin from daylight. Try Neutrogena Moisture SPF-15. Its a great product. SPF15 should be sufficient. Remember, the higher the SPF, the higher its potential to clog your pores. And when pores are blocked, it become acne.



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JinYee 80, should I apply moisturizer also to the acne area since Benzoyl Peroxide has drying effect??

Between Cetaphil & neutrogena moisturizer, which is slightly better?? U must choose either one!! rclxms.gif My face is fair enough, so I don't wan SPF protection.... is it OK?? I also unlikely expose to strong sunlight

Why salyclic Acid doesn't work?? (it work initially to me, but after a while it cause problem) I know retinol is harch to the skin but not saliclic Acid..... In Malaysia, most acne product is using salyclic Acid, not Benzoyl Peroxide.

Anyway, i HAVE try the neutrogena on the spot, pretty good!! smile.gif smile.gif But, doesn't minimize pores. Any ideas on pore refining??

Any idea on ways to combat dark circles?? Traditional way?? Cucumber, tea bag??
What brand of eye gel/ cream u recommend?? I m currently using Clinelle eye gel

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JinYee 80, should I apply moisturizer also to the acne area since Benzoyl Peroxide has drying effect??


You could, provided its over-drying. Let it dry first, then apply a thin layer of moiturizer on it.

QUOTE(Irresistible @ Sep 1 2006, 03:47 PM)
Between Cetaphil & neutrogena moisturizer, which is slightly better?? U must choose either one!! rclxms.gif  My face is fair enough, so I don't wan SPF protection.... is it OK?? I also unlikely expose to strong sunlight

If you prefer moisturizer which is a little bit watery and simple, Cetaphil will do. If you prefer lotion( not that watery), you could go for Neutrogena. It really depends on preference. Its not the main point that you are fair enough and you are not entitled for SPF. Its because Benzoyl Peroxide is a bleaching agent. When it exposed to sunlight directly, you will get post inflammatory hyperpigmentation. So, thats mean even how fair you are, the side effect will still there and it will be even obvious for fair skin owners. I bet you dun wana take risk on your face.

QUOTE(Irresistible @ Sep 1 2006, 03:47 PM)
Why salyclic Acid doesn't work?? (it work initially to me, but after a while it cause problem) I know retinol is harch to the skin but not saliclic Acid..... In Malaysia, most acne product is using salyclic Acid, not Benzoyl Peroxide.


Salicylic did not actually kill the bacteria.Its an agent which remove the layer of the skin which is shed off. Retinol is not necessary for young people. They are used to treat freckles. Yes, Malaysia has less products with BP, so I ONLY recommend Neutrogena on-the-spot rather than OXY cos they are too strong.

QUOTE(Irresistible @ Sep 1 2006, 03:47 PM)
Anyway, i HAVE try the neutrogena on the spot, pretty good!! smile.gif  smile.gif  But, doesn't minimize pores. Any ideas on pore refining??


Great. The miracle of NOTS happens on you. Nope, its not the stage for you to perform any pores minimizing activities. Just stay put on the regimen, and maybe after some years, then you might start doing pore refining stuff. Don't be too anxious, it cuts queue and it may obstruct the whole process.

QUOTE(Irresistible @ Sep 1 2006, 03:47 PM)
Any idea on ways to combat dark circles?? Traditional way?? Cucumber, tea bag??
What brand of eye gel/ cream u recommend?? I m currently using Clinelle eye gel
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Get sufficient sleep. That's my best recommendation. For me, I used Olay cucumber eye gel.Its soothing yet did not contain many ingredients. Since eye area is the most sensitive part, you don't need more things on it. Simple is good.



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Anyone has used Kanebo on prone to acne skin? Issitgood? the whitening range.. im so keen to try.
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hey people,

thanks jinyee for opening this thread.
have been having acne since i was 17, that's 5 years now.

i was wondering..i know you have been mentioning about cetaphil over and over again but have you heard of eucerin? they have a whole set for acne prone skin. how do they fare?

and also, one of my friend tried differin. and it worked really good on her skin. she has such lovely skin now. can u comment on that too.

i am really desperate to have clear skin. sad.gif

thanks. =)
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QUOTE(hunnylis @ Sep 2 2006, 11:17 PM)
hey people,

thanks jinyee for opening this thread.
have been having acne since i was 17, that's 5 years now.

i was wondering..i know you have been mentioning about cetaphil over and over again but have you heard of eucerin? they have a whole set for acne prone skin. how do they fare?

and also, one of my friend tried differin. and it worked really good on her skin. she has such lovely skin now. can u comment on that too.

i am really desperate to have clear skin. sad.gif

thanks. =)
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Differin is not bad. But it may be overdrying and your skin will peel. Well, if you would like to have a try, go for it.

Eucerin. Yup, they focus on using lactic acid to counter acne. I would not advise those who has sensitive skin to have a try on this. Lactic Acid is beta hydroxy acid, which will help in remove the outer layer skin.

Anyway, for a prolong result, why not you build a foundation for your skin, to let it to help up itself. My old word again - CETAPHIL + NOTS. smile.gif


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i see u are really confident about cetaphil. are u positive that they'll be no side effects or it will trigger more pimples on my face?

cetaphil does not use lactic acid?

i'm a bit scared to try any products now, because the latest i tried just made my face worse. sad.gif

if i choose to use differin..can i still use NOTS?
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i see u are really confident about cetaphil. are u positive that they'll be no side effects or it will trigger more pimples on my face?

cetaphil does not use lactic acid?

i'm a bit scared to try any products now, because the latest i tried just made my face worse. sad.gif

if i choose to use differin..can i still use NOTS?
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I wouldn't say NO, it really depends on individual. However, the possibility will be LOW. Cetaphil contains nothing besides MILD cleansing properties, no addictive, no oil, no fragrance and non comedogenic. You can even put it on a cotton and wipe it throughout your face, don't even need to rinse. Its the convenience of Cetaphil. I used it when I went travelling, in flight.

If you use Differin, please do not use NOTS. It will be overdrying.
Use only ONE medication per session. Otherwise the case will be worst.



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i juz bought my 1st bottle of cetaphil gentle cleanser today. but i cant find any neutrogena on the spot at guardian. can i find that in watson? btw cetaphil is ph 6.5 le. i thought 5.5 is the best of for face.
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i juz bought my 1st bottle of cetaphil gentle cleanser today. but i cant find any neutrogena on the spot at guardian. can i find that in watson? btw cetaphil is ph 6.5 le. i thought 5.5 is the best of for face.
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YEs, I found the Neutrogena On the Spot in Watson, cost about 17.90, 10% discount. Can't find it in Guardian.
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ok thnz.

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Seems like everyone is using the regimen CETAPHIL+ NOTS.

Good Luck!!!
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i bought the cetaphil gentle skin cleaser today smile.gif ..browse along the guardian and finnally found it at the body care section sweat.gif ..i bought the 500ml one that cost me RM29.88.At guardian got sell variety type of neutrogena product but cant find the NOTS.. According to the cetaphil instruction,it can apply without water or with water... wandering what difference between them>? blink.gif i have oily skin.

Bside tat,is tea tree oil good to against ance or blackhead??
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Just go for accutane,works like a charm, or if you prefer external solution try pro-activ,heard of many good reviews on the product.
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Just go for accutane,works like a charm, or if you prefer external solution try pro-activ,heard of many good reviews on the product.
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For god sake, ONLY go for accutane when you have tried out anything and prefer sure that your acne is due to hormone. You will need to visit a doctor in order to prescribe for the medication. Its side effect is tremendous. Read my previous posts about accutane.

For Cetaphil, normally you will need rinse it. But when you are travelling, like me, in a flight to L.A, I will just apply Cetaphil on a cotton and wipe it over my face, no need to rinse it. It will pamper your skin.

Tea Tree oil will irritate sensitive skin. So, please don't put your skin on risk by trying it. It really doesn't sound convincing because scientifically, it is not proven to heal acne.



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yesterday i 1st time using cetaphil.....it is so mild. i cnt feel any bubbles when washing my face with it. after washing feel comfortable. does all the friends who using cetaphil feel the same? hope tis is the last prodect i can use to heal my acne. lol.

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wow..
a very gud info from jinyee80..
very informative thread....

jinyee80..
i am a regular user for acne aid (stiefler product)..
for me.. it shows a great result...

do i hv to use moisturiser???
or using acne aid + NOTS??

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wow..
a very gud info from jinyee80..
very informative thread....

jinyee80..
i am a regular user for acne aid (stiefler product)..
for me.. it shows a great result...

do i hv to use moisturiser???
or using acne aid + NOTS??
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If it does show result, then you should stick on it because your skin has turned on to suit the medication.

In your case, you wouldn't need any additional thing. Just stick on your current regimen. Apply more than one over the counter product will just dry out your skin.



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Wondering that does the NOTS is temporary out of stock or already end of life

Cannot find it in few Guardian in Penang & the 1-Utama's Guardian as well...

Sad sad sad... T_T
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Wondering that does the NOTS is temporary out of stock or already end of life

Cannot find it in few Guardian in Penang & the 1-Utama's Guardian as well...

Sad sad sad... T_T
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I think they have stopped bringing in the product. Nevermind anyway, I am thinking of bringing in another product that can substitute NOTS.


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last time, after washing my face, my face and the acne will become red and the acne can be seen very clear. but i dont have tis problem when using cetaphil. can explain abt tis?

jinyee80:

from ur experience, usually when can i see the difference on my face condition? i juz started using cetaphil yesterday. and wat is the main difference that can cetaphil made compare to other product? so far i can feel that my face is better than last time, it looks more "clear" than last time.

wat is the product than can work as NOT? i wanna buy NOT but havnt buy yet. Maybe i can try the new product that u mention.



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QUOTE(nkw1987 @ Sep 5 2006, 11:18 AM)
last time, after washing my face, my face and the acne will become red and the acne can be seen very clear. but i dont have tis problem when using cetaphil. can explain abt tis?

jinyee80:

from ur experience, usually when can i see the difference on my face condition? i juz started using cetaphil yesterday. and wat is the main difference that can cetaphil made compare to other product? so far i can feel that my face is better than last time, it looks more "clear" than last time.

wat is the product than can work as NOT? i wanna buy NOT but havnt buy yet. Maybe i can try the new product that u mention.
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Turned red because its overdrying. Cetaphil will not dry out your skin, so no problem.

Well, the availability of Neutrogena On-the-spot in Malaysia market is doubtful because the sole dealer would not want to continue the product anymore locally. So, we have to find alternative. I could get supplies from US, but the quantity need to be bulk otherwise we will lose in terms of shipping and handling fee. For your information, I will get the supply from Dan, from US. He is also organizing a forum in US about Acne. I have been doing research with him regarding acne since year 2000.

I will contact him and calculate the cost, then you all decide whether who want to order. Let you all know soon.

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Clear Skin Regimen Gel contains 4 ounces and is 5.3 times larger than Neutrogena On-the-Spot.

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Hi JinYee

Any product that u can recommend to minimise enlarged pores? Especially on my cheek...
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No wonder I've been trying to look for NOTS yesterday and the day before that but couldn't find a single one.
so Jinyee, you mean we can substitute NOTS with this Clear Skin thing?

Or any product with 2.5% of benzoyl peroxide will do?

Also can't find Neutrogena Oil-Free Moisture for Sensitive Skin, they only have for combination skin. Will it be the same if I use the cetaphil moisturiser?
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Hi JinYee

Any product that u can recommend to minimise enlarged pores? Especially on my cheek...
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Try using Cetaphil gentle cleanser. It is mild, and it builds a good foundation for your skin to rejuvenate itself. Let the skin does its job. No point pouring in tonnes of creams or lotions which might potentially end you up with skin problems.

QUOTE(hunnylis @ Sep 6 2006, 01:17 PM)
No wonder I've been trying to look for NOTS yesterday and the day before that but couldn't find a single one.
so Jinyee, you mean we can substitute NOTS with this Clear Skin thing?

Or any product with 2.5% of benzoyl peroxide will do?

Also can't find Neutrogena Oil-Free Moisture for Sensitive Skin, they only have for combination skin. Will it be the same if I use the cetaphil moisturiser?
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Can, you can subsitute it with Cetaphil Moisturizer. For NOTS, for sure you can substitute it with the Clear Skin products. It was a US counterpart of mine who is developing the item. He is very experience in dealing with acne. Many people in US and other countries are using his products. Sometimes he even raise fund by selling his products and donate the funds to the orphanage or school.

I will try to get him in touch. He is very busy recently in dealing to further produce more acne products.


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oh, it it's frm there it will be expensive, rite?

i found this PanOxyl product which also has 2.5% benzoyl peroxide. Do u think it's suitable?
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I just bought Neutrogena Moisturizer for sensitive skin, 100 ml one.

But, it is not oil free!! Do buy the correct one?? Is it OK??
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If you have sinus infection "resdung" better treat that first b4 using acne cream.... pls check whether u have allergy with any of the substance in the acne cream ... icon_rolleyes.gif
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oh, it it's frm there it will be expensive, rite?

i found this PanOxyl product which also has 2.5% benzoyl peroxide. Do u think it's suitable?
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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Sep 7 2006, 08:29 PM)
I just bought Neutrogena Moisturizer for sensitive skin, 100 ml one.

But, it is not oil free!! Do buy the correct one?? Is it OK??
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Its not oil-free, you are right but the oil is not synthetic oil. As if you know more about acne, you will realise that petrolatum or the mineral oil will not clog the pores and furher cause acne, ONLY synthetic oil that human creates will clog pores. In Neutrogena, its the mineral oil, its for moisturizing purpose, so no worry.

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If you have sinus infection "resdung" better treat that first b4 using acne cream.... pls check whether u have allergy with any of the substance in the acne cream ... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Anyway, it really applies to everything. If you are sensitive to alcohol, should put aside toner stuff, it will swell you up. Anyway, use your common knowledge.


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PanOxyl ingredients:

Benzoyl peroxide 2.5% w/w, carbomer, di-isopropanolamine, propylene glycol, macrogol lauryl ether, sodium lauryl sulphate, purified water.
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QUOTE(hunnylis @ Sep 8 2006, 01:02 PM)
PanOxyl ingredients:

Benzoyl peroxide 2.5% w/w, carbomer, di-isopropanolamine, propylene glycol, macrogol lauryl ether, sodium lauryl sulphate, purified water.
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Shouldn't be a problem, you may go for this product and please do quote us the pricing, so others could buy it as Neutrogena willing not be selling NOTS in Malaysia anymore.



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but sebamed products...very good....for me laa.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Aug 26 2006, 10:06 AM)
jinyee80, ARE Clinelle (not Clinique) & Simple product good??
Bcause they claim themselves as non-SD- achohol & non fragance  & non comogenic.

I read all ur post & u said Pure & Mild products is reliable. I was wondering the Pure & Mild Cleansing Oil for blackhead (as advertised in TV). Does it work?? Whats ur opinion??
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can some one show me the image of Pure & Mild Cleansing Oil for blackhead? i tried to find it at Watson just now but i am unable to find it. where can we get this?
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QUOTE(Trinity @ Sep 3 2006, 06:02 PM)
i bought the cetaphil gentle skin cleaser today smile.gif ..browse along the guardian and finnally found it at the body care section sweat.gif ..i bought the 500ml one that cost me RM29.88.At guardian got sell variety type of neutrogena product but cant find the NOTS.. According to the cetaphil instruction,it can apply without water or with water... wandering what difference between them>?  blink.gif i have oily skin.

Bside tat,is tea tree oil good to against ance or blackhead??
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Sorry, cetaphil 500 ml, u buy at RM 29.88 ?? Which Guardian??Mine one, 250 ml RM 24.20,
500 ml 42.80
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can some one show me the image of Pure & Mild Cleansing Oil for blackhead? i tried to find it at Watson just now but i am unable to find it. where can we get this?
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I also don't have one !! Its a new product, Watson or Guardian outlet should have it!! Try to search other larger Watson/ Guardian outlets.

When I find it, it is out of stock!!
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Hey Girls/Womens,

Can you recommend me a face care package? Like facial foam, toner, cream, to remove scar, pimples mark.

I rarely have pimples on my face, even if I have there will be only 1 or 2, and will go off in few days time. I don't use Oxy or whatsoever, i just wash like what I do daily. My mistakes in past is, i went and press the pimples, now my face got those scars and those pimples mark that just won't go off. How do I get right of those scars? When the sun reflecting at my face, can see the scars even more clear, making me look more ugly. sad.gif

I'm quite noob in face products, so I really need some guidance here. I'm currently using Nivea for Men facial foam.

My face is always oily, don't know why.

Thanks.

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What kinda cleanser, moisturizer and toner types should i get for an oily skin with acne problem, not so into fruits in the diet and im a student

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For god sake, ONLY go for accutane when you have tried out anything and prefer sure that your acne is due to hormone. You will need to visit a doctor in order to prescribe for the medication. Its side effect is tremendous. Read my previous posts about accutane.

For Cetaphil, normally you will need rinse it. But when you are travelling, like me, in a flight to L.A, I will just apply Cetaphil on a cotton and wipe it over my face, no need to rinse it. It will pamper your skin.

Tea Tree oil will irritate sensitive skin. So, please don't put your skin on risk by trying it. It really doesn't sound convincing because scientifically, it is not proven to heal acne.
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Can you recommend any good dermatologists nearest to Putrajaya? My problem might be hormonal and I'm sick of BIG acnes which seems to be immune to any lotion. It looks like having severe infection. My skin also very sensitive, i used to have allergic reaction that builds swollen and itchy spots all over my body when i was a kid. I still remember even Forever Living's Vitamin C would trigger that on me. Human is imperfect, but i might be the weakest and most problematic one. Sigh. sweat.gif

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I also don't have one !! Its a new product, Watson or Guardian outlet should have it!! Try to search other larger Watson/ Guardian outlets.

When I find it, it is out of stock!!
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I can't find the PURE & MILD cleansing oil for blackhead either in Guardian or Watson. Will try to call up their HQ tomorrow.

QUOTE(zeist @ Sep 10 2006, 03:25 PM)
Hey Girls/Womens,

Can you recommend me a face care package? Like facial foam, toner, cream, to remove scar, pimples mark.

I rarely have pimples on my face, even if I have there will be only 1 or 2, and will go off in few days time. I don't use Oxy or whatsoever, i just wash like what I do daily. My mistakes in past is, i went and press the pimples, now my face got those scars and those pimples mark that just won't go off. How do I get right of those scars? When the sun reflecting at my face, can see the scars even more clear, making me look more ugly.  sad.gif

I'm quite noob in face products, so I really need some guidance here. I'm currently using Nivea for Men facial foam.

My face is always oily, don't know why.

Thanks.
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What kinda cleanser, moisturizer and toner types should i get for an oily skin with acne problem, not so into fruits in the diet and im a student
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Well, answering two questions combined. Well, pressing acne upfront is incorrect. So, what you can do right now is to try to prevent new acne from forming yet taking good care of your skin and let it rejuvenate itself. Perhaps you can consume some collagen products to enhance the process but yet, scientific result is not proven for the intake of collagen will accelerate the heal of scars. Anyway, some believe it will help while there's still no evidence show it would not help. What I believe in collagen is that, it will build a foundation on your body and let your skin rejuvenate itself.

Oily, its ok, you can't change that much but perhaps for a guy to use a concealer or foundation will be too girlish, so let it be. otherwise you can purchase Clean& Clear Oil film and remove the facial oil from period to period.

Dragz, use cetaphil + NOTS , it will really helps. No toner is required in this regimen. Its simple to follow, even to guy or gal.

QUOTE(virtual @ Sep 10 2006, 07:18 PM)
Can you recommend any good dermatologists nearest to Putrajaya? My problem might be hormonal and I'm sick of BIG acnes which seems to be immune to any lotion. It looks like having severe infection. My skin also very sensitive, i used to have allergic reaction that builds swollen and itchy spots all over my body when i was a kid. I still remember even Forever Living's Vitamin C would trigger that on me. Human is imperfect, but i might be the weakest and most problematic one. Sigh.  sweat.gif
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I don't really know any dermatologist nearby that area. But in KL there will be some who are reputable. You should take accutane already in your case and prepare for the worst side effect should you determine to proceed.

Why not try the regimen that I recommend highly to those who have stubborn acne for years. It really helps because we actually do not need to put this and that to our skin, sometimes something simple will do.



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QUOTE(hootguuy @ Sep 10 2006, 02:26 PM)
Sorry, cetaphil 500 ml, u buy at RM 29.88 ??  Which Guardian??Mine one, 250 ml RM 24.20,
500 ml 42.80
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The guradian near my house at Ampang,locate in a shopping mall name Spectrum..500ml for RM29.88 is promotion price because at there 250 ml also sell for RM 24.20..so i rather giv more 5 ringgit to get double liter.. smile.gif
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jinyee, let us know the result about pure and mild cleasing oil tomolo if u call their hq, thanks.
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jinyee80, thanks for tips...gonna try later...

btw, wanna ask, is there any way to get rid those acne scar? my face got many dark scar laa... sad.gif
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me also dark scar....any product can use?

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i would recommend DALACIN-T where u can get from pharmacies.
try google for "dalacin-t reviews" for more information?
it works rclxms.gif
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DALACIN T Lotion contains
clindamycin phosphate equivalent to
clindamycin 10 mg/mL as the active
ingredient.

It also contains glycerol, sodium
lauroyl sarcosinate, stearic acid,
glyceryl monostearate, mono- and diglycerides,
potassium hydroxide,
cetostearyl alcohol, isostearyl alcohol,
purified water and methyl
hydroxybenzoate.
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QUOTE(virtual @ Sep 11 2006, 02:30 PM)
DALACIN T Lotion contains
clindamycin phosphate equivalent to
clindamycin 10 mg/mL as the active
ingredient.

It also contains glycerol, sodium
lauroyl sarcosinate, stearic acid,
glyceryl monostearate, mono- and diglycerides,
potassium hydroxide,
cetostearyl alcohol, isostearyl alcohol,
purified water and methyl
hydroxybenzoate.
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ok...me phailed chemistry...can u speak english? laugh.gif I use isotrex b4...but..not much improvement laa... sweat.gif
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jinyee... how would i know if a product that havent even launch in malaysia good or not? im gettingit frm a middle person. Its called zidi. I get it from a girl in thailand. Where can i check whether its a registered product in Taiwan or HOng Kong? Can u help me? The main ingredients of the products looks okay to me such yoyumin , vitamin E, titanium dioxide and so on. can u help me how to clarify my doubts?
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QUOTE(death_nite @ Sep 11 2006, 02:47 AM)
jinyee80, thanks for tips...gonna try later...

btw, wanna ask, is there any way to get rid those acne scar? my face got many dark scar laa... sad.gif
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QUOTE(nkw1987 @ Sep 11 2006, 03:25 AM)
me also dark scar....any product can use?
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It will fade when time goes by. The action taken to accelerate the heal will actually reverse the outcome. You might end up with other skin problem. Well, go back to my old word of wisdom - let the skin heal up by itself. Otherwise you can try applying mask or consume some higher protein food such as soya milk and etc. it may help. But will take longer time.

QUOTE(death_nite @ Sep 11 2006, 03:07 PM)
ok...me phailed chemistry...can u speak english? laugh.gif I use isotrex b4...but..not much improvement laa... sweat.gif
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What is ISOREX?Any link?

QUOTE(Quen^nie @ Sep 11 2006, 07:46 PM)
jinyee... how would i know if a product that havent even launch in malaysia good or not? im gettingit frm a middle person. Its called zidi. I get it from a girl in thailand. Where can i check whether its a registered product in Taiwan or HOng Kong? Can u help me? The main ingredients of the products looks okay to me such yoyumin , vitamin E, titanium dioxide and so on. can u help me how to clarify my doubts?
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I need more info in order to provide comment. Maybe you can search it throughout google and provide me direct link to the website. But, if the product contains other active ingredient besides Benzoyl Peroxide, then it will not be encouraged.


For scars, I would recommend elicina but we could not get it locally. You all can get more info about this product at http://www.elicina.com . It is using the mother nature way to heal skin



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I used Oxy Daily Wash.. and the Oxy Creme.. it helps for me..
it depends on the individual's skin.. some have sensitive skin though ^.^;
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jinyee80, not ISOREX, its ISOTREX....here the link

but didnt use it nemore....b4 my face got too many big acne...now small2 one only..erh..went to guardian but forgot to buy erh wat is the name..centaphadil? tongue.gif

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I used Oxy Daily Wash.. and the Oxy Creme.. it helps for me..
it depends on the individual's skin.. some have sensitive skin though ^.^;
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Yes, it really depends on the tendency of your skin.

QUOTE(death_nite @ Sep 11 2006, 09:01 PM)
jinyee80, not ISOREX, its ISOTREX....here the link

but didnt use it nemore....b4 my face got too many big acne...now small2 one only..erh..went to guardian but forgot to buy erh wat is the name..centaphadil? tongue.gif
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Yup, my bad for spelling it wrongly. Its basically isotrenotoin,in other word, its vitamin A. I think its unnecessary for your current situation. Benzoyl Peroxide is better as it acts against the root of the problem. Should you intend to apply that ISOTREX, for long term, you will feel that your face is gona peel off regularly and will get reddish very easily.

Big acne or small acne will do for the regimen that I suggested. Its CETAPHIL anyway.
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I did call, but the correspondent person, Sharon, she said she will call me back to let me know the main reason. So, as soon as I get the reason, I will straight away post-up.


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i have been using cetaphil for a quite a while(abt one week). i m not sure wheter it shows any different than the facial cleanser that i previously used. but after using cetaphil the acne seems to heal very fast (the acne dry out very fast). but my face sometimes still pop up some new acne sad.gif . it is still early for my skin to get use to a new facial cleanser or i m nt suitable to use it? so far i feel it is still ok for me. for the ppl who are using cetaphil can g any feed back? is it normal after washing face the acne on the face can be seen clearly than b4?
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QUOTE(nkw1987 @ Sep 13 2006, 05:54 PM)
i have been using cetaphil for a quite a while(abt one week). i m not sure wheter it shows any different than the facial cleanser that i previously used. but after using cetaphil the acne seems to heal very fast (the acne dry out very fast). but my face sometimes still pop up some new acne sad.gif  .  it is still early for my skin to get use to a new facial cleanser or i m nt suitable to use it? so far i feel it is still ok for me. for the ppl who are using cetaphil can g any feed back? is it normal after washing face the acne on the face can be seen clearly than b4?
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The cycle for acne, from its buildup, formation until the dryout is around 28-30days. You have been using Cetaphil for a week and already see the acne to dry up fast, thats really a good sign . You still have new acne popping up because they are just completing their cycle before you have started to use Cetaphil.

For your information, our skin will require 1.5-2.5months to adapt to the cleanser. So, its no point keep on changing within weeks because it wouldn't really help. Stick onto Cetaphil and in long term you will discover the smoothness texture of your skin.

Sure, after you washed your face, you will be able to see your acne clearer because you have washed out the previous sebum.

Who has been using Cetaphil for more than 1.5months? Please comment.



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Thanz for the explaination jinyee. I will stick to cetaphil.
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Hi JinYee

Can u advice me on wat kind of product i should use to get rid of dark spot quickly? Im using cetaphil & NOTS as u adviced. I get less pimples now aday. But the dark spots on my face that bother me so much. Pls advice.... thanks!
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For scars, I would recommend elicina but we could not get it locally. You all can get more info about this product at http://www.elicina.com . It is using the mother nature way to heal skin
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How much does it cost? any plan to get in BULK?
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ok...me phailed chemistry...can u speak english? laugh.gif I use isotrex b4...but..not much improvement laa... sweat.gif
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I copy-pasted lar, just for information to you all. tongue.gif

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Hi JinYee

Can u advice me on wat kind of product i should use to get rid of dark spot quickly? Im using cetaphil & NOTS as u adviced. I get less pimples now aday. But the dark spots on my face that bother me so much. Pls advice.... thanks!
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Its normal. It will heal by its own. So, no worry about it. If you intend to accelerate the process by using those products containing lightening or whitenning active ingredients, you might get adverse result.


QUOTE(virtual @ Sep 14 2006, 04:47 PM)
How much does it cost? any plan to get in BULK?
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Need to know how many you all gonna purchase, therefore I could negotiate with the correspondent person.




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I'm a guy and I have oily skin(acne prone). How to control this oil? I hate when my face start shining in afternoon. I heard from other person, I can use talc to control it. Is this correct?

The other problem is acne. My acne usually came out on the area between neck and cheek(where the beard is located). I tried a lot of products but it still pop up. So, after i read this thread from page 1, I think I want to give it a try to Cetaphil Gentle Cleanser( or this Cetaphil Daily Facial Cleanser? Same product? ).

What is good mosturizer for oily skin in winter season? Cetaphile moisture or Neutrogena Sensitive?

This problem effect my self-confidence sad.gif

Thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(slacx @ Sep 15 2006, 12:01 AM)
I'm a guy and I have oily skin(acne prone). How to control this oil? I hate when my face start shining in afternoon. I heard from other person, I can use talc to control it. Is this correct?

The other problem is acne. My acne usually came out on the area between neck and cheek(where the beard is located). I tried a lot of products but it still pop up. So, after i read this thread from page 1, I think I want to give it a try to Cetaphil Gentle Cleanser( or this Cetaphil Daily Facial Cleanser? Same product? ).

What is good mosturizer for oily skin in winter season? Cetaphile moisture or Neutrogena Sensitive?

This problem effect my self-confidence sad.gif

Thanks smile.gif
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try look into your diets first. What kind of food are you taking daily ?
Try to stay away from foods that makes your skin goes bad, for example fried foods, spicy foods, etc.

secondly, getting enough rest will bring some wonder to the skin too.
Dont stay up too late every night. Have enough sleep and rest.

Stress adds to the acne problems too. Be stress free.

And those products, sometimes you have to try before you can find the right moisturiser and cleanser that works perfectly well for your skin type. Each individual reacts differently to a certain product.

So, its better that you buy those smaller size of those product to try. better if you can get some test samples first. See whether you feel itchy or uneasiness.
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QUOTE(chilicandy @ Sep 15 2006, 12:28 AM)
try look into your diets first. What kind of food are you taking daily ?
Try to stay away from foods that makes your skin goes bad, for example fried foods, spicy foods, etc.

secondly, getting enough rest will bring some wonder to the skin too.
Dont stay up too late every night. Have enough sleep and rest.

Stress adds to the acne problems too. Be stress free.

And those products, sometimes you have to try before you can find the right moisturiser and cleanser that works perfectly well for your skin type. Each individual reacts differently to a certain product.

So, its better that you buy those smaller size of those product to try. better if you can get some test samples first. See whether you feel itchy or uneasiness.
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About food, I mostly take chicken, meet, seafoods and I like spicy. Should I stay away from this? I'm skinny and want to gain weight. What is the proper diet?

Stress is usual for me cos I'm student esp. when the exam is around tongue.gif I usually dont stay up late, only in exam time.


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walaoeh.....I feel so rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif when reading this thread....anyways,it's very good thread setup by jinyee..BRAVO!!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

I just finished page 7 and will continue tomorrow.....all along I just use Biore for MEN cleanser to watch my face daily...didn't know that need to use moisturizer and toner as well for better skin fighting against acne problem...

well..I have bad habit until today where I squeeze the acne and hance it caused some problem which is called "acne scar".....

after reading this thread...I swear I won't squeeze my acne anymore biggrin.gif ...anyways, may I know which product is suitable to cure acne scar...as well as facial wash , toner, moisturizing my skin....the range of product recommended in this forum really giving me some headache...

ps: my skin is little oily and abit sensitive .....

hope forummer can help me..... notworthy.gif
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Hi Jinyee,

I am having dry in oily out kinda skin, which is told by beautician. My blackheads are kinda hard to press out, and the acne seems to hide mostly 'underneath' the skin. Whenever it reaches noon time, my skin will produce lots of oil at T-zone, though my office's air-cond is not cold at all.

The oily problem actually gets worse in past few months. Previously my skin is not so oily though I sometimes have acne wchi is quite controllable as I used to go for facial.

Lately I have stopped going to facial treatment since the beauty saloon i went had moved and i have no confident to try other saloons. That is when the T-zone becomes more and more oily. Besides, these 2 weeks I am having problem with my digestive system (i feel that it is not totally clean though i go to toilet everyday blush.gif ) and i have lots of huge breakouts which i very seldom had.

Currently i'm using cleanser, toner without alcohol and moisturizer. Could you please advise what I need to take care in order to reduce the oil at T-zone? Thanks. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(eric84cool @ Sep 15 2006, 12:46 AM)
walaoeh.....I feel so  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif when reading this thread....anyways,it's very good thread setup by jinyee..BRAVO!!! thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

I just finished page 7 and will continue tomorrow.....all along I just use Biore for MEN cleanser to watch my face daily...didn't know that need to use moisturizer and toner as well for better skin fighting against acne problem...

well..I have bad habit until today where I squeeze the acne and hance it caused some problem which is called "acne scar".....

after reading this thread...I swear I won't squeeze my acne anymore biggrin.gif ...anyways, may I know which product is suitable to cure acne scar...as well as facial wash , toner, moisturizing my skin....the range of product recommended in this forum really giving me some headache...

ps: my skin is little oily and abit sensitive .....

hope forummer can help me..... notworthy.gif
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Its not necessary to make toner into compulsory. It really depends on situation. However, I did not really recommend any toner out there because I still do not have confident to really suggest one. Moisturizer will only be a MUST if you stayed in Air-cond room.

If you are acne prone, then try CETAPHIL+ NOTS or otherwise you could substitute NOTS with PanOxy. I would require someone to help me to post the image of PanOxy in this thread.

Just put away the Biore for Men, it did not really helps in long term. Switching to CETAPHIL will let you see its long term result. Skin is smooth in texture and yet not acne prone.

QUOTE(cocolala @ Sep 15 2006, 01:05 PM)
Hi Jinyee,

I am having dry in oily out kinda skin, which is told by beautician. My blackheads are kinda hard to press out, and the acne seems to hide mostly 'underneath' the skin. Whenever it reaches noon time, my skin will produce lots of oil at T-zone, though my office's air-cond is not cold at all.

The oily problem actually gets worse in past few months. Previously my skin is not so oily though I sometimes have acne wchi is quite controllable as I used to go for facial.

Lately I have stopped going to facial treatment since the beauty saloon i went had moved and i have no confident to try other saloons. That is when the T-zone becomes more and more oily. Besides, these 2 weeks I am having problem with my digestive system (i feel that it is not totally clean though i go to toilet everyday  blush.gif ) and i have lots of huge breakouts which i very seldom had.

Currently i'm using cleanser, toner without alcohol and moisturizer. Could you please advise what I need to take care in order to reduce the oil at T-zone? Thanks.  notworthy.gif
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Again, toner is not in compulsory. Just put it out of the regimen because some toner really contains fragrance or other ingredients that do not really contribute. Oily skin is alright. Try the regimen I suggested. Switch your daily facial cleanser to CETAPHIL and you will definately see the difference. Why your skin has blackheads? Because the sebum+dirt+P.acne are blocked inside the pores, it cannot get out, hence contribute to the formation of acne. How to prevent this from happening? I mean the cycle of acne from the beginning?

Since, P.acne is an anaerobic bacteria, we will use product that contains Benzoyl Peroxide to pump in more oxygen, therefore the bacteria would not be able to survive. So, the cycle stops, and acne is not formed. Before killing the bacteria, you need to remove the surface sebum first, and CETAPHIL will does the job. It cleanse your skin mildly, without stripping out the essential good facial sebum which this sebum will help to shield your skin from other harmful bacterias. CETAPHIL is so mild that you would not irritate the skin, therefore building a good foundation to your skin itself to manage its own. When the skin can function well, it will automatically turn on its shield against other skin problem.

My purpose to suggest MILD cleanser is to let the skin to heal or cure its own. Rather than applying tonnes of skin products that may cost you a fortune, why not you let the skin to do its job? Pollution, Sun Exposure, Inconsistent temperature, air cond and bla bla conditions will harm the skin, therefore is essential to let the skin to act by its own rather than when the problem comes, you go to the counter to buy this and that. Prevent is always better than cure, agree?


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I went to the Guardian today, but I can't find Cetaphil Gentle Cleanser. I only found Cetaphil Cleanser for Oily Skin. Can I use this?

One more, I want to find moisturizer for winter season. Can you give me some recommendation?

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I went to the Guardian today, but I can't find Cetaphil Gentle Cleanser. I only found Cetaphil Cleanser for Oily Skin. Can I use this?

One more, I want to find moisturizer for winter season. Can you give me some recommendation?

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Go for CETAPHIL Gentle Skin cleanser. Remember, ONLY look for this.
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I did NOT recommend this, put it aside.
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For moisturizer, you might go for Neutrogena Moisture for sensitive skin.



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OMG...can't find NOTS at Guardian leh....anybody know where to buy!!??
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Go for CETAPHIL Gentle Skin cleanser. Remember, ONLY look for this.
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I did NOT recommend this, put it aside.
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For moisturizer, you might go for Neutrogena Moisture for sensitive skin.
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Thanks Jinyee. Will search in other pharmacies.

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OMG...can't find NOTS at Guardian leh....anybody know where to buy!!??
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I managed to get the last one NOTS in Jusco today. sweat.gif
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Thanks Jinyee for your suggestion and explanation.

By the way, have you heard of Himalaya's product? Its a herbal product. I am currently using its Acne Cream but don't see much result. When I checked its ingredient, all are herbs and i did not see Benzoyl Peroxide. Any comment about it?
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Can I use cream like Elicina at the same time with NOTS? For example:

moisturizer->NOTS->Elicina or
moisturizer->Elicina->NOTS

I want to remove my acne mark at my face.
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Thanks Jinyee for your suggestion and explanation.

By the way, have you heard of Himalaya's product? Its a herbal product. I am currently using its Acne Cream but don't see much result. When I checked its ingredient, all are herbs and i did not see Benzoyl Peroxide. Any comment about it?
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Himalaya claimed its products are natural. Take a look on their ingredients, see how NATURAL they are. Put it aside.

QUOTE(slacx @ Sep 16 2006, 03:58 PM)
Can I use cream like Elicina at the same time with NOTS? For example:

moisturizer->NOTS->Elicina or
moisturizer->Elicina->NOTS

I want to remove my acne mark at my face.
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Don't get everything complicated. For those who still have ACTIVE acne,
CETAPHIL-> NOTS -> Moisturizer ( optional )

For those who have OCCASIONAL acne ( means that 1 to 3 acnes per month ),
CETAPHIL->NOTS -> Elicina

For those who don't have acne already, but still have acne marks
CETAPHIL-> Elicina.


Don't mix up everything and apply tonnes of products on your skin at once. It cannot breathe. Use common sense because imagine you yourself cover your body with a lots of clothes. You will obviously feel warm, hot then sweat. When you sweat a lot, your body produce more lactic acid.

And another word, please be PATIENT, its the KEY word because you can't expect acne to get away within days. Give yourself until 2.5months to see result. Normally, a person with severe acne until he is totally clear will take approx 12 months. Then, after the 12 months, he can start to apply product to heal acne scars.



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Thanks jinyee80.

Any recommendation on scrub and mask?
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Thanks jinyee80.

Any recommendation on scrub and mask?
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kakaka....FINALLY I found NOTS.....very hard to find it leh....anyways, I want to ask anyone...I wondering whether I bought the correct product for CETAPHIL cleanser product....

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aiks..how come u got a free tower???how much and where did u bought it? drool.gif
i didn get any when i bought it.... cry.gif
by the way, i seeked alot of guardian and watson...no signed of NOTS..wander how is the panOXy look like??and wher can i get it??can i switch it to oxy5??it contains 5% of benzoyl peroxide. will the more 2.5% benzoyl peroxide affect the ance?
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QUOTE(Trinity @ Sep 17 2006, 05:31 PM)
aiks..how come u got a free tower???how much and where did u bought it? drool.gif
i didn get any when i bought it.... cry.gif
by the way, i seeked alot of guardian and watson...no signed of NOTS..wander how is the panOXy look like??and wher can i get it??can i switch it to oxy5??it contains 5% of benzoyl peroxide. will the more 2.5% benzoyl peroxide affect the ance?
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I bought it from Watson,SS15 there....but then the NOTS I bought left just one only.....so too bad.....actually I did use benzoyl peroxide 5% but then it causes me some irritation on skin and left red spot there... biggrin.gif so switch to NOTS and see whether it gatal or not... smile.gif
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Anyways guyz...I need to know how to improve my current skin condition for me..just merely cleanser and NOTS then can already ?? Or need to buy toner or moisturizer for better result?! unsure.gif unsure.gif

I've attached the pic below ..thanks!!

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QUOTE(eric84cool @ Sep 17 2006, 04:27 PM)
kakaka....FINALLY I found NOTS.....very hard to find it leh....anyways, I want to ask anyone...I wondering whether I bought the correct product for CETAPHIL cleanser product....

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You are right. You got the exact item to start my regimen.

QUOTE(Trinity @ Sep 17 2006, 05:31 PM)
aiks..how come u got a free tower???how much and where did u bought it? drool.gif
i didn get any when i bought it.... cry.gif
by the way, i seeked alot of guardian and watson...no signed of NOTS..wander how is the panOXy look like??and wher can i get it??can i switch it to oxy5??it contains 5% of benzoyl peroxide. will the more 2.5% benzoyl peroxide affect the ance?
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Do NOT use over 2.5% of BP. It irritates skin. Please visit lots of Watsons and Guardian because I believe some of them might keep old stocks but the expiry date is still far. I am now trying to find alternatives for you all. Please keep yourself update by visiting this thread regularly to know more.

QUOTE(eric84cool @ Sep 17 2006, 06:04 PM)
Anyways guyz...I need to know how to improve my current skin condition for me..just merely cleanser and NOTS then can already ?? Or need to buy toner or moisturizer for better result?!  unsure.gif  unsure.gif

I've attached the pic below ..thanks!!

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Use CETAPHIL and NOTS for 2.5months, then you post up your photo again. The before and after will be significant. The key word - PATIENT.



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ehh..tell u what JinYee....The expiry date for NOTS is 2 months later....so in case if I finish the product and I couldn't find another NOTS from anywhere...could u recommend me any product similiar to NOTS??

so If I apply NOTS after washing my face....I apply it on the entire of my skin or those spot which is left after ance...which means ACNE SCAR... smile.gif

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ehh..tell u what JinYee....The expiry date for NOTS is 2 months later....so in case if I finish the product and I couldn't find another NOTS from anywhere...could u recommend me any product similiar to NOTS??

so If I apply NOTS after washing my face....I apply it on the entire of my skin or those spot which is left after ance...which means ACNE SCAR... smile.gif
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That's the problem, because Neutorgena does not intend to market its NOTS in Malaysia anymore. We have scarcity for that product. I am trying to get something which can substitute NOTS for you all.

Wash your face with CETAPHIL, then apply NOTS on acne prone area. That's all. Don't be stingy, apply in generous dosage and smear it evenly and let it dry. Remember, for the 1st week, use it once per two night, then at the 2nd week, start using it once per night. That's all. DO NOT use it twice per day and use it on daytime!



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QUOTE(eric84cool @ Sep 17 2006, 06:04 PM)
Anyways guyz...I need to know how to improve my current skin condition for me..just merely cleanser and NOTS then can already ?? Or need to buy toner or moisturizer for better result?!  unsure.gif  unsure.gif

I've attached the pic below ..thanks!!

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My face is much much more worse than you sweat.gif sweat.gif

QUOTE(jinyee80 @ Sep 17 2006, 06:39 PM)
That's the problem, because Neutorgena does not intend to market its NOTS in Malaysia anymore. We have scarcity for that product. I am trying to get something which can substitute NOTS for you all.

Wash your face with CETAPHIL, then apply NOTS on acne prone area. That's all. Don't be stingy, apply in generous dosage and smear it evenly and let it dry. Remember, for the 1st week, use it once per two night, then at the 2nd week, start using it once per night. That's all. DO NOT use it twice per day and use it on daytime!
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ermm..can you explain why?
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QUOTE(slacx @ Sep 17 2006, 06:45 PM)
My face is much much more worse than you sweat.gif  sweat.gif
ermm..can you explain why?
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aiyaa...we going to the same direction..BEAUTY SKIN!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif aiyaa....ppl expert said like that...u just follow lah.....aduh... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(eric84cool @ Sep 17 2006, 06:53 PM)
aiyaa...we going to the same direction..BEAUTY SKIN!!! biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif aiyaa....ppl expert said like that...u just follow lah.....aduh... shakehead.gif
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try to follow now..haih.. sweat.gif
now not handsome anymore cry.gif
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QUOTE(slacx @ Sep 17 2006, 07:02 PM)
try to follow now..haih.. sweat.gif
now not handsome anymore cry.gif
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or otherwise u try cellnique la....they having some promotion which is MONEY BACK GUARANTEE....that product is clear white and blackhead.......show us ur pic la..aduh.... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(eric84cool @ Sep 17 2006, 07:10 PM)
or otherwise u try cellnique la....they having some promotion which is MONEY BACK GUARANTEE....that product is clear white and blackhead.......show us ur pic la..aduh.... shakehead.gif
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i have been trying some products and so far i have not really been happy with the results sad.gif

currently im using Nivea for Men- Oil Control face wash.

my skin is more to blackheads that develop into pimples if i gatal pinch them or sometime they will develop into pimples..

and i also got scars cos i think my skin heals slowly..

any suggestion on how to improve?
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My face is much much more worse than you sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Benzoyl Peroxide tends to bleach and when its expose under sunlight, it will cuase post inflammantory hyperpigmentation. In other word, it will turn a black or brown spot which is so obvious after your acne healed when you apply BP to your acne during the day.

Do some research regarding Benzoyl Peroxide. Know why some people's acne did not stop until certain period? Because they do not have knowledge on what they apply to their face. Anyway, know more about what you apply on your skin, then you will know what to do and what not to do.


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From some resources, Mineral Oil also clog pores. Only vegetable oils do not clog pores...

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Today I read the stars newspaper.....ministry of health plan to investigate SK II products......where the products claimed to have metallic substance....chromium or something bla bla like that...
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Today I read the stars newspaper.....ministry of health plan to investigate SK II products......where the products claimed to have metallic substance....chromium or something bla bla like that...
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Jinyee 80, u are using SK II Pitera Essence, isn't it??

Actually, a lot of over counter products have excess metallic substance, just no authority investigate them. Most of them didn't list out all their ingredients.... sad.gif

Frankly speaking, products that give u result in a short time (with active ingredients) is most dangerous one, cause skin cancer etc.

But, none of the products is Malaysia is 100% Natural, preservation chemical ingredients...

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hi jinyee, u have always mention that moisturizer is not necessary. but i wonder, wont our skin be too dry after cleansing? if its too dry our skin might produce more oil...
sometimes after cleansing my skin will feel slightly tight if not applying moisturizer..

btw, for those who are looking for cetaphil cleanser and moisturizer, Jusco at 1U has it.
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Hi, i just stumbled across this thread and i hope u can enlighten me about the product i am using and should i consult a doctor.

I've been seeing the dermatologist for like 5-6 years, and each time he would prescribe me with clindamycin gel and i do not know the name of it until recently where i enquired it with the clinic's receptionist, and then i bought it at the pharmacy.

NOTE: Do not proceed if u have not had your meal.

I read the instruction leaflet and find that in some cases, diarrhea would occur as a side effect. The thing is i have been going to the loo every morning and it has became a routine. But the thing is that when i do my business, the 'business outcome' would not be like those 'banana' type and when i flush the toilet, i saw that it is like half solid + solution. If u get what i mean. I'm worried now that it is because of the gel that i used for so long that i'm having like diarrhea-like business whenever i visit the toilet.

p/s : Tried my best not to be so descriptive as it might upset certain ppl who had not had their meals.

Sorry if i had upset anyone who proceeded to read on. Cheers.
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after last time i got lots of pimple i feel my face not as smooth as it did last time( the time when i dont have pimples at all). Now the face is like "kasar" a bit. If i nw constanly wash (2 times in a day) my face will it become smoother? i mean not tat kasar..i hope u understand wat i mean.
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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Sep 18 2006, 01:20 AM)
From some resources,  Mineral Oil also clog pores. Only vegetable oils do not clog pores...
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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Sep 18 2006, 01:10 PM)
Jinyee 80, u are using SK II Pitera Essence, isn't it??

Actually, a lot of over counter products have excess metallic substance, just no authority investigate them. Most of them didn't list out all their ingredients....  sad.gif

Frankly speaking, products that give u result in a short time (with active ingredients) is most dangerous one,  cause skin cancer etc.

But, none of the products is Malaysia is 100% Natural, preservation chemical ingredients...
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Well,sometimes you have no choice. Okie, lets quote an example. Everyone knew that accutane is dangerous, its side effects are so significant which you might end up with liver and kidney damage or even worst, you may born out an abnormal baby but people still intend to take on the risk. What do you see from this outcome? When it is talking about acne, and especially acne on your face, and you have tried a lots and put a lots of efforts of heal it but yet it still pop out, you will go for the extreme and ultimate solution.

Benzoyl Peroxide if using in long term, will or will not cause skin cancer, no one actually knew it. But to a person who develops acne and feel depressed on it, would you think that he will be dying out to try other alternative rather than thinking of maybe he might die one day due to the usage of acne products which will cause him cancer in long term.

I have tried to choose the most least side effect products for you all. Eventually, its still up to you to decide on whether you wan to have a try or not. I am not forcing you, right?

I am not using SKII frequently. Nothing is natural unless you plant your own aloe vera and pluck it to apply it as a mask on the spot.


QUOTE(cocolala @ Sep 18 2006, 02:26 PM)
hi jinyee, u have always mention that moisturizer is not necessary. but i wonder, wont our skin be too dry after cleansing? if its too dry our skin might produce more oil...
sometimes after cleansing my skin will feel slightly tight if not applying moisturizer..

btw, for those who are looking for cetaphil cleanser and moisturizer, Jusco at 1U has it.
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It really depends. After you wash your face, pat it dry and do not ever expose yourself under direct air-cond or fan. Obviously the moving air will drag the moisture around your skin away. Then, you will feel tight. Its really not necessary if you are not sleeping in air-cond environment. The temperature is hot in malaysia and if you apply tonnes of products on your face every single night, you will end up messing things on your face. When your face got upset, you will know the outcome.


QUOTE(BotakPrince @ Sep 18 2006, 08:44 PM)
Hi, i just stumbled across this thread and i hope u can enlighten me about the product i am using and should i consult a doctor.

I've been seeing the dermatologist for like 5-6 years, and each time he would prescribe me with clindamycin gel and i do not know the name of it until recently where i enquired it with the clinic's receptionist, and then i bought it at the pharmacy.

NOTE: Do not proceed if u have not had your meal.

I read the instruction leaflet and find that in some cases, diarrhea would occur as a side effect. The thing is i have been going to the loo every morning and it has became a routine. But the thing is that when i do my business, the 'business outcome' would not be like those 'banana' type and when i flush the toilet, i saw that it is like half solid + solution. If u get what i mean. I'm worried now that it is because of the gel that i used for so long that i'm having like diarrhea-like business whenever i visit the toilet.

p/s : Tried my best not to be so descriptive as it might upset certain ppl who had not had their meals.

Sorry if i had upset anyone who proceeded to read on. Cheers.
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Well, try my regimen and you wouldn't get the outcome that you stated above anymore.

QUOTE(nkw1987 @ Sep 18 2006, 10:18 PM)
jinyee80:
after last time i got lots of pimple i feel my face not as smooth as it did last time( the time when i dont have pimples at all). Now the face is like "kasar" a bit. If i nw constanly wash (2 times in a day) my face will it become smoother? i mean not tat kasar..i hope u understand wat i mean.
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It will, but not so soon. Give yourself at least 2.5months for results.
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jinyee,

i usethe cetaphil gentle cleanse for 3 days now... is it normal for the face to peel? after washing, is it also normal to have a tingling feel?

thanks.
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my face was ok before i came to melacca , mmu to further my studies.. i don really know wat happen to my face recently..

my face do have acne.. and according to the beautician my face is dry out oily inside.. so wat facial fash should i use?
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QUOTE(nicKit @ Sep 20 2006, 10:53 AM)
jinyee,

i usethe cetaphil gentle cleanse for 3 days now... is it normal for the face to peel? after washing, is it also normal to have a tingling feel?

thanks.
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Yup. Because your previous cleanser is not good enough. Therefore, your skin reacted by removing the old layer, now you will start with a brand new skin layer. Since its new, so you will feel tingling. It wouldn't persist long as your skin will adapt to the environment.

QUOTE(sookmun18 @ Sep 20 2006, 06:38 PM)
my face was ok before i came to melacca , mmu to further my studies.. i don really know wat happen to my face recently..

my face do have acne.. and according to the beautician my face is dry out oily inside.. so wat facial fash should i use?
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Well, any word - CETAPHIL. Its good enough to accomodate every type of skin.



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I gt problem with my face recently. something pop up at my face. it look like lebam and black color one(like gt some blood inside). Unlike acne, it dont have any hole for me to press it out....i duno hw to handle with it...it seems like will getting bigger and bigger, pls help!!!

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haha juz bought my 1st NOTS last night any can start my Cetaphil + NOTS regimen nw heheh. Is it normal when i apply NOTS, i feel a bit burn on the acne spot?
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QUOTE(nkw1987 @ Sep 24 2006, 11:20 AM)
haha juz bought my 1st NOTS last night any can start my Cetaphil + NOTS regimen nw heheh. Is it normal when i apply NOTS, i feel a bit burn on the acne spot?
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Great.Starting using it and your problem will decrease very soon. You will feel tingling because your skin has not get used to Benzoyl Peroxide yet. Give yourself some time. Use it once per two nights, then after 1-2weeks that your skin can tolerate BP, you can apply once per day already.




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Yesterday night i apply NOTS for the very 1st time. This morning when i wake up u found out tat the pimples tat i appy NOTS on it is dry out but i leave a red marks or red dots tat are very obvious. Isit normal? I worry that if i apply on acne all over my face, my fgace will full of red marks. Or isit happened coz the quantiti tat i apply is too much? but i only apply a low amount of NOTS only.
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Hi jinyee...

I'm new here. Need your advice on my acne problem.

currently i'm using Murad skincare for almost 3 months now but still no improvement, i think it's getting worse. i've tried many products before include nuetrogena but no luck. My skin is oily..and i got scars and blackheads.

any suggestions to get rid of the acne, scar and blackhead..?


Thanks
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QUOTE(nkw1987 @ Sep 25 2006, 12:59 PM)
Yesterday night i apply NOTS for the very 1st time. This morning when i wake up u found out tat the pimples tat i appy NOTS on it is dry out but i leave a red marks or red dots tat are very obvious. Isit normal? I worry that if i apply on acne all over my face, my fgace will full of red marks. Or isit happened coz the quantiti tat i apply is too much? but i only apply a low amount of NOTS only.
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Its normal at first. It will fade very soon. Its called as post inflammantory hyperpigmentation. When your acne has clear, then probably I can recommend some thing to you for the marks.


QUOTE(squiggle @ Sep 25 2006, 01:57 PM)
Hi jinyee...

I'm new here. Need your advice on my acne problem.

currently i'm using Murad skincare for almost 3 months now but still no improvement, i think it's getting worse. i've tried many products before include nuetrogena but no luck. My skin is oily..and i got scars and blackheads.

any suggestions to get rid of the acne, scar and blackhead..?
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Murad is not good. Actually its the same with Proactiv solution. They are too harsh for the skin. Try my regimen, and read through the posts in this thread to get more info.

Try CETAPHIL, it works!




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hello jinyee80,
i saw 2 types on cetaphil cleanser at guardian the other day.
One is with pump, and the other one is in the tube(facial cleanser for oily skin if i not mistaken). Which one is recommended by you? The pupm one or the tube one?
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hi jinyee...

since u have done so much researches on acne n provide us useful regime, im curious if u have done any research on other products such as shampoo/lotion/cosmetic etc. if yes, pls recommend... thanks
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Jinyee80, what is ur occupation?? Beauty consultant or working in a co like P&G or Unilever??

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QUOTE(asern @ Sep 26 2006, 09:27 AM)
hello jinyee80,
i saw 2 types on cetaphil cleanser at guardian the other day.
One is with pump, and the other one is in the tube(facial cleanser for oily skin if i not mistaken). Which one is recommended by you? The pupm one or the tube one?
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Please refer to post #296
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=308877&st=280


QUOTE(IcE LeMon TeE @ Sep 26 2006, 11:47 AM)
hi jinyee...

since u have done so much researches on acne n provide us useful regime, im curious if u have done any research on other products such as shampoo/lotion/cosmetic etc. if yes, pls recommend... thanks
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Nope, only on acne and other products that may trigger acne as well, such as shampoo and etc.


QUOTE(hootguuy @ Sep 26 2006, 01:18 PM)
Jinyee80, what is ur occupation?? Beauty consultant or working in a co like P&G or Unilever??
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Nope. Working as a banker in full time and doing research regarding acne as my part time job. My mum is a dermatologist in UK, so her helps meant a lot to my research.




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When we press there is creamy white thing coming out, is this call whiteheads?

Is Benzoyl Peroxide effective to this as well?
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Have anyone tried panOxyl before? is it work for sensitive skin? i couldn't find NOT.
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hi; stumbled upon this forum by accident - have a few questions to ask (although they have probably been repeated constantly over this forum - so pls forgive me for that). Recently came back to Msia (sabah) after 6 years abroad and started suffering from mild to moderate acne about 4 months ago. It has subsided although I still have the occasional acne here and there along with the scars which is annoying the hell out of me.

Just recently used Eucerin Mild Daily Scrub and found that after a week, I broke out quite badly. Since then, I have switched to the Neutrogena Skin Clearing Wash, Toner and Essence. Are these products beneficial and does the Vitamin A and Salicylic Acid help in healing the scars?

Are there are good acne scars treatment available apart from Elicina? I have tried MEderma which does squat; and have recently purchased Condolisa Scar Gel and was told that it works well. A friend told me to try Palmer's Skin Success Eventone Fade Cream which contains Vitamins C, E and Alpha Hydroxy Acid. I am at a loss at which to use as I was considering using Cetaphil along with any recommended scar treatment.

Thank you for your time in answering~
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QUOTE(cocolala @ Sep 27 2006, 11:09 AM)
When we press there is creamy white thing coming out, is this call whiteheads?

Is Benzoyl Peroxide effective to this as well?
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You could call it as pus as well. Its actually the result of inflammation. Yes, BP will dry it out. Normally the pus is the result of our white blood cell fighting against the P.acne bacteria. So, when BP plays its role, it releases oxygen into the pores and oxygen kill the bacteria. Thereby, white blood cell does not need to react further. So, you will see less pus as you use BP.

QUOTE(squiggle @ Sep 27 2006, 01:30 PM)
Have anyone tried panOxyl before? is it work for sensitive skin? i couldn't find NOT.
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Yup, you could try it. Some forumers have feedbacked me about PanOxyl.

QUOTE(cocolala @ Sep 27 2006, 02:19 PM)
Any comment about Lactacyd liquid wash ph 3.5 (for face and body use)?
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Would you use something to wash your private part to wash your body or face? Its too acidic, do not suits the skin pH.

QUOTE(gangsterlawyer @ Sep 27 2006, 07:01 PM)
hi; stumbled upon this forum by accident - have a few questions to ask (although they have probably been repeated constantly over this forum - so pls forgive me for that). Recently came back to Msia (sabah) after 6 years abroad and started suffering from mild to moderate acne about 4 months ago. It has subsided although I still have the occasional acne here and there along with the scars which is annoying the hell out of me.

Just recently used Eucerin Mild Daily Scrub and found that after a week, I broke out quite badly. Since then, I have switched to the Neutrogena Skin Clearing Wash, Toner and Essence. Are these products beneficial and does the Vitamin A and Salicylic Acid help in healing the scars?

Are there are good acne scars treatment available apart from Elicina? I have tried MEderma which does squat; and have recently purchased Condolisa Scar Gel and was told that it works well. A friend told me to try Palmer's Skin Success Eventone Fade Cream which contains Vitamins C, E and Alpha Hydroxy Acid. I am at a loss at which to use as I was considering using Cetaphil along with any recommended scar treatment.

Thank you for your time in answering~
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From my experience, besides Benzoyl Peroxide, I don't see any Over-the-counter product or active inrgedients that can kill acne as fast as it. I could say that its the most effective and straight forward way.

You don't need Vitamin A or Salicylic Acid. The advertisement may claim it works but actually if you apply tonnes of products on your skin, you will end up with adverse result. Stick to BP, then you will see the wonder. For your info, please read through the thread to know more about the recommended regimen.

You don't need any scar healing product yet. No point applying it while in another part you get new acne. Solve a problem 1st, before you create another. Patient is the word. When your face is totally clear, then we could start to discuss other products.

Better than Elicina. Yup, laser surgery, dermabrasion, punch technique and so on. You need a lots of money to really minimize the acne mark. Victoria Beckham has acne scars, pitted holes on her face, and now if you look into her face, its smooth. How much do you think she invested on her face?



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Thank you for your prompt reply, Jinyee - will try out the recommended regimen as soon as possible. Much obliged
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What about Neutrogena Skin Clearing? It contains salicylic acid. I've been using oxy for almost a month. I also take vitamin C. It is still not as i expected.
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QUOTE(jinyee80 @ Sep 27 2006, 10:10 PM)

Would you use something to wash your private part to wash your body or face? Its too acidic, do not suits the skin pH.
The one I was talking about isnt for washing the private part. the description says its for face and body wash esp for problem skin.

anyway yea it might be too acidic.
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QUOTE(virtual @ Sep 28 2006, 02:32 AM)
What about Neutrogena Skin Clearing? It contains salicylic acid. I've been using oxy for almost a month. I also take vitamin C. It is still not as i expected.
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Salicylic acid sucks. It tends to irritate skin. Move to Benzoyl Peroxide.
Remember, use a MILD cleanser, then BP, your skin will clear in 2.5months.


QUOTE(cocolala @ Sep 28 2006, 01:05 PM)
The one I was talking about isnt for washing the private part. the description says its for face and body wash esp for problem skin.

anyway yea it might be too acidic.
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Then, it is still too acidic. Last time a friend of mine was using the cleanser of a brand - Neostrata. Which it claims the glycolic acid and PHA inside will smoothen the skin. She ended up with oily skin (previously she has normal skin ) and now having acne problem. What is the rational? AHA and PHA irritate skin. Please put it away. A mild cleanser will do the charm. You don't need vitamin A to Z or other properties in the cleanser. The less thing is better. Then, use BP, your skin will really heal.





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jinyee, read ur earlier posts - very informative. Just wondering whether you have found any substitutes for the NOTS seeing as how they have stopped circulating them. Does weather play a major role in one suffering from acne?
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QUOTE(gangsterlawyer @ Sep 28 2006, 10:59 PM)
jinyee, read ur earlier posts - very informative. Just wondering whether you have found any substitutes for the NOTS seeing as how they have stopped circulating them. Does weather play a major role in one suffering from acne?
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Still negotiating with the supplier about the substitute. The person in charge for wholeselling has travelled to Seattle this month, so gonna wait him to come.

Put it in this way, environment temperature plays a role in acne. However, its not among the major causes.



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QUOTE(jinyee80 @ Sep 30 2006, 09:40 AM)
Still negotiating with the supplier about the substitute. The person in charge for wholeselling has travelled to Seattle this month, so gonna wait him to come.

Put it in this way, environment temperature plays a role in acne. However, its not among the major causes.
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Any products to lighten wrinkles. I m only in my early 20s. But, got light smiling wrinkles. (Maybe laugh too often??)

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QUOTE(hootguuy @ Sep 30 2006, 11:51 AM)
Any products to lighten wrinkles. I m only in my early 20s. But, got light smiling wrinkles. (Maybe laugh too often??)
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That's a good sign of you are a delightful person. I don't think there is something that is so compromising to recommend it to you. BOTOX? you need $$$ for that.

Try the regimen that I recommended, because it lets the skin to return to its natural form and with that the skin by itself can mitigate the problems.



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I bought the Cetaphil Cleanser and moisturiser.
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And the PanOxyl. It's RM14.50 at Guardian.
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Here's how my complexion looks like right now. sad.gif
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Will this regime work Jinyee?

Lemme get things right, use the BP first and then moisturiser, right? But BP only at night, right?

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Sorry for the HUGE photos...didn't know how to make them smaller.
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I bought the Cetaphil Cleanser and moisturiser.
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And the PanOxyl. It's RM14.50 at Guardian.
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Here's how my complexion looks like right now.  sad.gif
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Will this regime work Jinyee?

Lemme get things right, use the BP first and then moisturiser, right? But BP only at night, right?
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Ya, you are right about the product.

Daytime
Cleanse->Moisturize( if you frequently expose to air-cond otherwise can be excluded)

Nighttime
Cleanser->BP-> Moisturize. Use BP once per two nights in the first week and once per night in the second week onwards

You will feel the change of the texture of your skin after 1 week.



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i've used cetaphil and panOxyl now but i feel itchy and red everytime i put on the panOxyl. my skin also feel dry and rough. is it normal for first week of using it?

Any good product for pigmentation?
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ok im a guy. i went to skin doc 1 month ago. looks likes the stuff is not working for me and the session cost me Rm100++, he say that i have alot of black and white heads.

everyone say that place is good and some say is bad. well i just go for a try. but it doesnt work for me.

He gave me :

ERYDERM 2% ( morning )
DIFFERIN adapalene (night )
and a Mild clenser DERMASAFE

It doesn't work

then i try T3 wow..the result EVEN WORST.

now trying NIVEA almost 3 weeks . hope it works but it. due to my parents say my face getting better. hmm i need a better solution.

I serious need a good men care products to use on. any idea?

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QUOTE(bubucaca @ Oct 3 2006, 07:56 PM)
ok im a guy. i went to skin doc 1 month ago. looks likes the stuff is not working for me and the session cost me Rm100++, he say that i have alot of black and white heads.

everyone say that place is good and some say is bad. well i just go for a try. but it doesnt work for me.

He gave me :

ERYDERM 2% ( morning )
DIFFERIN adapalene (night )
and a Mild clenser DERMASAFE

It doesn't work

then i try T3 wow..the result EVEN WORST.

now trying NIVEA almost 3 weeks . hope it works but it. due to my parents say my face getting better. hmm i need a better solution.

I serious need a good men care products to use on. any idea?
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U use NIVEA which product??


I think Jinyee80 will like usual, introduce u Cetaphil & Neutrogena on the spot!!
Cetaphil make my skin smoother but use NOT still haven't see result on blackhead area

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QUOTE(hootguuy @ Oct 4 2006, 01:15 AM)

U use NIVEA which product??


I think Jinyee80 will like usual, introduce u Cetaphil & Neutrogena on the spot!!
Cetaphil make my skin smoother but use NOT still haven't see result on blackhead area
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Yup, its a norm anyway. Lets make things easy. Two steps of CETAPHIL and NOTS, then you are done.

Remember 28 days cycle for blackhead, so you need to apply BP to eliminate it.

NIVEA is not really a good product.
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i've used cetaphil and panOxyl for a week now but i still got pimples!!!
How ar? is that mean my skin not suitable with this product?

ever heard palmer scar serum? it's a vitamin E oil. is it ok to use it on oily skin..?

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QUOTE(jinyee80 @ Oct 4 2006, 06:38 AM)
Yup, its a norm anyway. Lets make things easy. Two steps of CETAPHIL and NOTS, then you are done.

Remember 28 days cycle for blackhead, so you need to apply BP to eliminate it.

NIVEA is not really a good product.
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i cant find Neutrogena on the spot at watson . btw how often to do masking? btw any other masking brand is good bec egg white damn smelly....

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i've used cetaphil and panOxyl for a week now but i still got pimples!!!
How ar? is that mean my skin not suitable with this product?

ever heard palmer scar serum? it's a vitamin E oil. is it ok to use it on oily skin..?
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Be patient, use the regimen for 2.5months, then feedback. Yup, heard of palmer, its using shark liver oil, well, we can discuss about this after your acne is clear.

QUOTE(bubucaca @ Oct 5 2006, 12:50 AM)
i cant find Neutrogena on the spot at watson . btw how often to do masking? btw any other masking brand is good bec egg white damn smelly....
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Yup, they are stopping the sales of NOTS locally already. Maybe you could get PanOxy as substitution. Mask, hmm..once per week. Try pure and mild.
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haiz...lucky tat day juz found one NOTS b4 the stop selling them in Malaysia...after using NOTS for a while i think tis is suitable for me. hardly can find a product tat suitable to me...nw have to change again. btw can panoxyl work as good as NOTS? coz NOTS work great on me, if can i really dont wanna change coz i scare will damage my face again T_T". Jin yee, hw do u think abt panoxyl??

juz nw search in the net for panoxyl pimple gel...there are quite many panoxyl pimple gels put there which some gt 5% and 2.5% of BP and different name. which one is the best? and can substitute NOTS. BTW I havnt finish my NOTS maybe i can wait for the product tat jinyee recommended to substitute NOTS.

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hi, i wanna ask if anyone knows of a place in KL where laser treatment is offered? for treatment of acne and scars as well. red/blue light or perhaps Acnelamp? thanks.
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jinyee80 ,i hav followed ur forum 4 quite some time now...n the neutrogena oilfree cleanser u recommended works well 4 me.

My problem now is acne scars.Are there any products(other than laser treatment) u can recommend me which can heal my scars or mayb reduce the appearance of the scar.Currently i m using natur E frm Garden of Eden but it haven showed any results
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Jinyee...i had been using cetaphil for 2 weeks...hmm...it rily chg thgs out...rily felt that the texture is somehow a lil bit different...its a totally different cleanser like previous ones...anyhow...i have been searchin the neutrogena on the spot pimple gel but i just could not get it some how at any outlet of guardian or watson's in ipoh...any idea for me to get this product?thx for ur help

EDIT:btw....do u hv pictures of the neutrogena on the spot pimple gel?it wopuld rily help a lot for me to speed up my search....thx again!

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hi, i wanna ask if anyone knows of a place in KL where laser treatment is offered?  for treatment of acne and scars as well.  red/blue light or perhaps Acnelamp? thanks.
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Can try to check out LHE treatment From Radiancy.
Here's some info http://www.radiancy.com/int/lheacne.htm

Skin specialist and some beauty saloons are using this. Below are some that i found out:

Ko Skin Specialist http://www.koskinlaser.com/otherservices_lhe_ac.html
Murall House of Beauty
Blooms of Eden http://www.bloomsofeden.com
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Is the the recommended regimen(cethapil cleanser + mosturiser and PanOxyl) suitable for me? I'm a teenage guy and i have being having acne which appears frequently. The acnes appears usually 1 or 2 around the cheek area mostly. Although they dont apear much at a time but they appear frequently. And these acne sometimes turn worse and inflamation and swelling occurs which last 1-2weeks. And some even worse. Sometimes bumps appear in a form of darkened spot and i think there is pus inside.

And my skin sometimes appear to be dry and dehydrated. Is it because of the air cond? My whole house is air conditioned and i sleep with the air cond on too.

Thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(bleachzrockz @ Oct 6 2006, 11:36 PM)
jinyee80 ,i hav followed ur forum 4 quite some time now...n the neutrogena oilfree cleanser u recommended works well 4 me.

My problem now is acne scars.Are there any products(other than laser treatment) u can recommend me which can heal my scars or mayb reduce the appearance of the scar.Currently i m using natur E frm Garden of Eden but it haven showed any results
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Have your acne completely clear? If it does, then probably i can provide u some suggestion. Let me know your condition first.

QUOTE(bmwlover @ Oct 7 2006, 01:33 AM)
Jinyee...i had been using cetaphil for 2 weeks...hmm...it rily chg thgs out...rily felt that the texture is somehow a lil bit different...its a totally different cleanser like previous ones...anyhow...i have been searchin the neutrogena on the spot pimple gel but i just could not get it some how at any outlet of guardian or watson's in ipoh...any idea for me to get this product?thx for ur help

EDIT:btw....do u hv pictures of the neutrogena on the spot pimple gel?it wopuld rily help a lot for me to speed up my search....thx again!
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Neutrogena does not sell NOTS in Malaysia market anymore. Perhaps you could switch to PanOxy. You can get a view of its appearance on the 1st page of this thread.

QUOTE(unamed @ Oct 8 2006, 04:56 AM)
Is the the recommended regimen(cethapil cleanser + mosturiser and PanOxyl) suitable for me?  I'm a teenage guy and i have being having acne which appears frequently.  The acnes appears usually 1 or 2 around the cheek area mostly.  Although they dont apear much at a time but they appear frequently.  And these acne sometimes turn worse and inflamation and swelling occurs which last 1-2weeks.  And some even worse.  Sometimes bumps appear in a form of darkened spot and i think there is pus inside.

And my skin sometimes appear to be dry and dehydrated.  Is it because of the air cond?  My whole house is air conditioned and i sleep with the air cond on too.

Thanks  smile.gif
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Yup, the regimen suits you. The condition happens repeatedly at the same place is because you did not clear up the remaining bacteria in the pores which this lead to another break out.
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My face was the worst face wif a lot of acne. So i am considered experienced in combatting pimples. my advice, drink lots of water, eat veges, no or little preservative n ajinomoto n oily fuds n spicy fuds. Extra tips: eat sweetpotatoes9detoxification) and sea algaes
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wat u think of sebamed cleansing bar?
many dermatologist recommend it
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i got my acne cleared up by having a drug called co-trimazole by Ting Skin Clinic's Dr Ting located somewhere near Imbi's Sakura night club.

after having the drug for 6 months, no breakout happened. then to get rid of my oil seed, i took another drug called Nimegen (Isotetrinoin) which stops oil production and lessen my oil seed problem...

and the doctor also prescribed me a cream, it worked like a charm. for those who have severe acne, i think medical assistance is really a must. smile.gif

i tried Neutrogena before. hell, it wasn't suitable for me. sad.gif if you guys found that Neutrogena works for ya, go ahead and continue the regimen. wink.gif

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QUOTE(moogle @ Oct 8 2006, 12:22 PM)
wat u think of sebamed cleansing bar?
many dermatologist recommend it
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my friend who has severe acne is using this. failed to show any results. sad.gif
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Have your acne completely clear? If it does, then probably i can provide u some suggestion. Let me know your condition first.
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jinyee80,actually now my face is in OK condition with occasional breakouts(especially during exams).My skin type is combination skin(oily in the T-zone).So,can u recommend me any on-the-counter acne scar treatment that really work??many thankz..
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QUOTE(simyan @ Oct 8 2006, 10:22 AM)
My face was the worst face wif a lot of acne. So i am considered experienced in combatting pimples. my advice, drink lots of water, eat veges, no or little preservative n ajinomoto n oily fuds n spicy fuds. Extra tips: eat sweetpotatoes9detoxification) and sea algaes
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Sweet potato is okie, but sea algae, I don't think highly consuming it will help because as we know that sea products contain a lots of iodine. And when you google around, you will somehow find out there's a link between acne and iodine. Over dosage of iodine will contribute to acne.

QUOTE(sE_vIxEn @ Oct 8 2006, 02:57 PM)
i got my acne cleared up by having a drug called co-trimazole by Ting Skin Clinic's Dr Ting located somewhere near Imbi's Sakura night club.

after having the drug for 6 months, no breakout happened. then to get rid of my oil seed, i took another drug called Nimegen (Isotetrinoin) which stops oil production and lessen my oil seed problem...

and the doctor also prescribed me a cream, it worked like a charm. for those who have severe acne, i think medical assistance is really a must. smile.gif

i tried Neutrogena before. hell, it wasn't suitable for me. sad.gif if you guys found that Neutrogena works for ya, go ahead and continue the regimen. wink.gif
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Well, Accutane is isotretinoin, a vitamin A derivative administered in pill form. It is usually taken for a period of four or five months. Doctors often recommend it to people with severe acne, the kind that can scar. Accutane is a hard-core medication which works from the inside out, shrinking the oil glands.

Accutane is widely considered the most important advance in acne treatment ever. Accutane results are often dramatic and permanent. Initially, it worked miracles. After a few weeks on Accutane, breakouts might stop dead in their tracks. Some will experienced no breakouts whatsoever for the remainder of the time you took the prescription. People with fantastic skin would come up to you and say, "I wish I had your skin". It was pretty incredible.

However, the drug is very powerful. Accutane side effects are numerous and can be severe. Bones and joints ached while one is taking the prescription. The joints have never fully returned to their pre-accutane state. One might fell very dried out during the course of accutane. Lips got severely chapped and eyes will also felt strange and dry at times.

The side effect of accutane will be severe, so its advisable that if there's no alternative, perhaps you should not take it.

Please visit the following site to obtain more info
http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/accutane/default.htm

Neutrogena On-the-spot did not work on you, its either you use it after your accutane session or you are sensitive to BP. Please do let me know more. blush.gif

QUOTE(bleachzrockz @ Oct 8 2006, 07:18 PM)
jinyee80,actually now my face is in OK condition with occasional breakouts(especially during exams).My skin type is combination skin(oily in the T-zone).So,can u recommend me any on-the-counter acne scar treatment that really work??many thankz..
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For shallow scar, microdermabrasion should help.

http://www.dermanew.com

I used to know that recently they juz have an agent in Malaysia, so the cost will not be as high as the price it was sold in the States.

Anyhow, should you intend for a more natural way, please visit http://www.elicina.com for more info.




Jinyee

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to me, the best acne solution is still going for facial. i know this woman who is a single parent, who was highly qualified from London, who opened several branches in various hotels such as hyatt saujana and glenmarie.

but since her husband left her she closed them down..and now she's doing facial using aroma therapy essential oil products at home.

ONLY RM 85 FOR TWO PEOPLE
. it's very, very effective..and worked for a lot of people too..plus she's very friendly. for more details you guys can PM me, i can give you her details.. cuz i really pity her =/
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is there a difference between dermabrasion and microdermabrasion?
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Yup, the regimen suits you. The condition happens repeatedly at the same place is because you did not clear up the remaining bacteria in the pores which this lead to another break out.
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QUOTE(jinyee80 @ Oct 8 2006, 10:22 PM)
Sweet potato is okie, but sea algae, I don't think highly consuming it will help because as we know that sea products contain a lots of iodine. And when you google around, you will somehow find out there's a link between acne and iodine. Over dosage of iodine will contribute to acne.
Well, Accutane is isotretinoin, a vitamin A derivative administered in pill form. It is usually taken for a period of four or five months. Doctors often recommend it to people with severe acne, the kind that can scar. Accutane is a hard-core medication which works from the inside out, shrinking the oil glands.

Accutane is widely considered the most important advance in acne treatment ever. Accutane results are often dramatic and permanent. Initially, it worked miracles. After a few weeks on Accutane, breakouts might stop dead in their tracks. Some will experienced no breakouts whatsoever for the remainder of the time I took the prescription. People with fantastic skin would come up to you and say, "I wish I had your skin". It was pretty incredible.

However, the drug is very powerful. Accutane side effects are numerous and can be severe. Bones and joints ached while one is taking the prescription. The joints have never fully returned to their pre-accutane state. One might fell very dried out during the course of accutane. Lips got severely chapped and eyes will also felt strange and dry at times.

The side effect of accutane will be severe, so its advisable that if there's no alternative, perhaps you should not take it.

Please visit the following site to obtain more info
http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/accutane/default.htm

Neutrogena On-the-spot did not work on you, its either you use it after your accutane session or you are sensitive to BP. Please do let me know more.  blush.gif
For shallow scar, microdermabrasion should help.

http://www.dermanew.com

I used to know that recently they juz have an agent in Malaysia, so the cost will not be as high as the price it was sold in the States.

Anyhow, should you intend for a more natural way, please visit http://www.elicina.com for more info.
Jinyee
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i am not allergic to BP, in fact, i worshipped BP for the time being it worked for me. however, it was only a temporary solution for me and didn't help much for totally cutting off from acne. that's why i seek the doctor for help.

yes, isotetrinoin has very horrible side effect. my lips cracked very greatly even though i drank water rather crazily.

those good old days are over. my skin is acne free now but still not free from oil seeds. though it looks smooth under low lighting, i can still feel the small bumps on my face.

as for scarring, gonna seek some help later on. smile.gif

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jinyee,

i've been trying out cetaphil for a month now n my face has less acne...
though the small ones still pops out...

is it neccessary for me to use panoxy?

do u have any sugggestions to heal the scars?

btw, is there any whitening solution for acne prone face?
coz my face is darker than my neck.... blush.gif n i wanna get rid of it....

thanks for being here, jinyee !!! notworthy.gif

u're the greatest !! thumbup.gif
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can u tell me wats microdermabrasion and its function???not really a cosmetic product-savvy.tq!!
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QUOTE(bleachzrockz @ Oct 10 2006, 01:21 PM)
jinyee,

can u tell me wats microdermabrasion and its function???not really a cosmetic product-savvy.tq!!
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hmmm, meanwhile, you can try googling up some results of your own too. wink.gif not being a cosmetic savvy is not an excuse for not using the internet as a resource.
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QUOTE(nicKit @ Oct 10 2006, 10:59 AM)
jinyee,

i've been trying out cetaphil for a month now n my face has less acne...
though the small ones still pops out...

is it neccessary for me to use panoxy?

do u have any sugggestions to heal the scars?

btw, is there any whitening solution for acne prone face?
coz my face is darker than my neck.... blush.gif n i wanna get rid of it....

thanks for being here, jinyee !!! notworthy.gif

u're the greatest !! thumbup.gif
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Yup, you still need to apply BP on the acne prone area. PLEASE do so if you intend to clear completely. When you are clear, then we proceed on dealing with the remaining scars.


QUOTE(bleachzrockz @ Oct 10 2006, 01:21 PM)
jinyee,

can u tell me wats microdermabrasion and its function???not really a cosmetic product-savvy.tq!!
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Microdermabrasion (often referred to as Microderm) is a cosmetic procedure popular in day spas, doctors' practices, and medical spas, in which the stratum corneum (dead outermost surface of the skin) is partially or completely removed by light abrasion. Different methods include mechanical abrasion from jets of zinc oxide or aluminum oxide crystals, fine organic particles, or a roughened surface. Particles and removed material are vacuumed off through the wand/handpiece through which the abrasive particles come. Microdermabrasion is used to remove sun-damaged skin and to remove or lessen scars and dark spots on the skin. The procedure is not very painful and requires no anaesthetic. Microdermabrasion can be used medically for scar removal when the scar is raised above the surrounding skin, but is less effective with sunken scars. Microdermabrasion can also be used for treatment of acne, but must be repeated periodically to be effective.

In the past, microdermabrasion was done using abrasive crystals. In the past decade, it has become more common to use a wand with a roughened surface. This procedure requires no medical oversight and is commonly used in conjunction with facial spa treatments. These days there are a multiplicity of machines available for microdermabrasion.

Microdermabrasion is a relative newcomer to the United States. This technique was first used in Europe and adopted by United States in the late 1990s. Today, Microdermabrasion is used effectively to treat fine wrinkles, stretch marks, and scars left from moderate to severe acne. The term dermabrasion refers to the more severe procedure carried out under general or twilight anaesthesia.

Source: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdermabrasion

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Benzoyl peroxide's side effect.

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jinyee, how to remove the scar left by the acne?
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does anyone know whether any products containing azelaic acid is beneficial towards fighting acne? the product in question is Skinoren cream by schering and its active ingredient is micronized azelaic acid (1 g Skinoren cream contains 0.2 g of the acid or 20%). thanks
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Jinyee:

u say u do some reseaerch on hair shampoo which cause acne rite?
can gv gv some example which shampoo are causing acne? i m now using pantene anti dandruff and after clearing myt dandruf i wanna change to a new shampoo and i dont want to choose a shampoo that can cause acne.
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jinyee, how to remove the scar left by the acne?
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Well, laser surgery will do. But, recently people in HK or Japan prefer some DIY for shallow scars by using lower portion of lactic acid or salicylic acid. You could find this info by browsing through the websites.


QUOTE(gangsterlawyer @ Oct 18 2006, 06:43 PM)
does anyone know whether any products containing azelaic acid is beneficial towards fighting acne? the product in question is Skinoren cream by schering and its active ingredient is micronized azelaic acid (1 g Skinoren cream contains 0.2 g of the acid or 20%).  thanks
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Yup, azelaic acid is known to fight acne but the problem is it did not really go to the root of the problem. It exfoliates the skin but it did not eliminate P.acne bacteria. To me, I would rather to eliminate the problem rather than repeatedly doing the same thing periodically and still hoping it will works in charm.

QUOTE(nkw1987 @ Oct 20 2006, 02:38 PM)
Jinyee:

u say u do some reseaerch on hair shampoo which cause acne rite?
can gv gv some example which shampoo are causing acne? i m now using pantene anti dandruff and after clearing myt dandruf i wanna change to a new shampoo and i dont want to choose a shampoo that can cause acne.
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Micro Zinc-PT in the shampoo has no proof contributing to acne. To me, I would say that please do not use shampoo that is overdry, which this is not only affect your hair, but will also affect some of your facial area. Overdry shampoo meanings that after you shampoo your hair, it will be hard and dry.

Anyway, I will keep you all up to date with the ingredients in shampoo that can bring acne.

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hey guyz...since the NOTS recommended by JinYee no more in the market rite now....I saw this brand in the watson store and I don't know whether iszit good for acne treatment or not?!

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it's Clean&Clear product and the main ingredient is salicylic acid...emmm....don't have benzoyl peroxide ...so wondering whether itszit useful or not? My NOTS gonna expire in next month..so I prepare to buy another benzoyl peroxide product but couldn't find it.... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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I'm using that one currently Clean&Clear... used 3 bottles liao... seems no effect oso ='( they've got a promotional pack selling at RM8.50 comes with a small free acne clearing cleanser... try to look out for that.

EDIT: How bout Himalaya Herbal's ayurvedic product? I was kinda keen to buy the NEEM FACE PACK... unsure.gif And.. where can i get cetaphil? Watsons and Guardians?

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QUOTE(erikachen @ Oct 23 2006, 10:41 PM)
I'm using that one currently Clean&Clear... used 3 bottles liao... seems no effect oso ='( they've got a promotional pack selling at RM8.50 comes with a small free acne clearing cleanser... try to look out for that.

EDIT: How bout Himalaya Herbal's ayurvedic product? I was kinda keen to buy the NEEM FACE PACK...  unsure.gif And.. where can i get cetaphil? Watsons and Guardians?
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well...I have no idea where to get NEEM FACE PACK...for CETAPHIL...u can check it out from guardian store....not available on Watson store...how about the Cellnique brand? Recently they just came out a product which is money back guarantee...I just saw it from newspaper last few weeks ago..anybody tried that product b4??
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Hi Jin yee, what do u think of the below ingredients? Harmful to acne skin?

Ingredients:
Deionised water, Ethylene Glycol Mono Sterate, Methyl Paraben, Imidazolidinyl Urea, Propylene Glycol, Triethanolamine, IPM, Stearic acid, Cetyl Alcohol, Cetearyl Alcohol (and) Ceteareth-20, Polyoxyethylene (20) Sobitau Monolaurate, Ginseng/Russian Angelica Sineenis Dieis/ Matrimony Vine Extract, Ginseng Extract, Vitamin E, Green Tea oil extract, Green Tea Perfume
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QUOTE(cocolala @ Oct 27 2006, 11:54 AM)
Hi Jin yee, what do u think of the below ingredients? Harmful to acne skin?

Ingredients:
Deionised water, Ethylene Glycol Mono Sterate, Methyl Paraben, Imidazolidinyl Urea, Propylene Glycol, Triethanolamine, IPM, Stearic acid, Cetyl Alcohol, Cetearyl Alcohol (and) Ceteareth-20, Polyoxyethylene (20) Sobitau Monolaurate, Ginseng/Russian Angelica Sineenis Dieis/ Matrimony Vine Extract, Ginseng Extract, Vitamin E, Green Tea oil extract, Green Tea Perfume
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Too much alcohol !! It dry ur skin ... in long term, worsen Acne skin.
Try products that is non perfume !!

Correct or not, Jin Yee80??
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I found the below info but it seems that even Neutrogena moisturizer for sensitive also contains these ingredients... unsure.gif

Irritating Ingredients That Can Be Found in
Skin Care Products

* These are pore clogging and often irritating ingredients. Avoid any skin care products that include these ingredients if you are acne prone or have sensitive skin.


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* Almond Oil - An oil extracted from the seeds of sweet almonds and used as an emollient.

* Apricot Kernel Oil - Oil expressed from the seeds of apricots.


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* Butylene Glycol - A petroleum derived mechanical ingredient.


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* Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride - The mixed triester of glycerin and caprylic and capric acids. An emollient ester derived form coconut oil with good lubricating properties.

* Carnauba Wax - Extracted from the leaves of the Brazilian wax palm tree. Emollient and moisturizing and used for its skin protectant properties.

* Castor Oil - Emollient, natural oil. Used in hair dressings, lipsticks, and skin care lotions. Obtained from the castor bean.

* Ceteareth -20 - Derived from cetearyl alcohol through ethoxylation. Used with the parent alcohol or with other fatty alcohols, it functions as a primary emulsifier and thickening agent.

* Cetearyl Alcohol - A waxy, crystalline solid used as an emulsifier. Not to be confused with drying, ethyl alcohols.

* Cetyl Alcohol - A secondary emulsifier that thickens or adds body to lotions. Not to be confused with drying, ethyl alcohols.

* Cocoa Butter - Obtained from cocoa beans, used as an emollient. Used in suntan lotions as well as the manufacture of chocolate.

* Coconut Oil - Natural oil derived from coconuts. Has a defatting effect on skin which is overcome by using coconut oil - deprived esters rather than the oil itself. Surfactants derived from coconut oil have good cleansing properties and are generally known to be mild.

* Corn Oil - Natural golden - colored oil expressed from corn kernels, zea mays. America's premier native emollient oil. Rich in linoleic acid, one of the three essential fatty acids.


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D

* D&C Red #33 - Certified monoazo colorant permitted for use in drugs and cosmetics but not in food.

* Decyl Oleate - The ester of decyl alcohol and oleic acid. An emollient that adds body to lotions.

* Disodium OleamideMEA - Sulfosuccinate - A wax -like solid surfactant used as a solubilizer and wetting agent in bath preparations and lotions.



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E

* Evening Primrose Oil - Helps your body replenish moisture lost to tanning, minimizing flaking and peeling for the appearance of a longer - lasting tan.


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G

* Glyceryl Stearate - A monster of glycerine and steric acid. An emollient and emulsifier.


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H

* Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil - Vegetable oil thickened through hydrogenation. Increases the stability of the oil while retaining the protective emolliency.


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I
* Isopropyl Myristate - The ester of isopropyl alcohol and myristic acid. It spreads very easily and promotes a dry feeling.

* Isopropyl Palmitate - The ester of isopropyl alcohol and palmitic acid. Spreads more readily than isopropyl myristate.


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* Kelp Extract - Extracted from a north American species of brown seaweed, Macrocystis pyriferae. High in silicon, which is believed to keep the skin from wrinkling and sagging, kelp is considered an important nutrient source for cells. It has been used to treat anemia and in cases of obesity because of its high iodine content, which has a normalizing effect on the thyroid. Iodine is known to be pore clogging. Avoid any kelp extract if you are acne prone or have sensitive skin.

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L

* Lanolin - A refined derivative of the unctuous fat - like sebaceous secretion of sheep. It consists of a highly complex mixture of esters of high molecular weight aliphatic, steroid or triterpenoid alcohols and fatty acids. Obtained from the wax found on sheep's wool; refined and purified to cosmetic specifications. Excellent emollient, skin lubricant and protectant, capable of absorbing water in an amount equal to 50% of its weight. Rich in cholesterol and other skin - friendly sterols.

* Lanolin Alcohols - Distilled and deodorized solid with excellent emolliency to skin and hair. Contains up to 30% cholesterol and related sterols.

* Laureth -23 - An emulsifier. The polyethylene glycol ether of lauryl alcohol.



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* Methylparaben/Propylparaben - Food grade preservatives developed in Europe and used to ensure shelf life, hygienic stability of products. One of the most commonly used preservative in cosmetics today and is non -irritating, non -sensitizing and non -toxic.

* Mink Oil - An oil similar to human sebum; this oil is obtained from the subdermal fatty tissue of minks. It has soothing, amplifying, conditioning, and protective properties, making it an important component of dry skin products. High in unsaturated triglycerides, mink oil has tremendous spreading capabilities.

* Myristyl Myristate - Ester of myristyl alcohol and myristic acid. Esters are light oils used as cosmetic emollients.


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* Octyl Palmitate - An emollient amplifying ester commonly used as a mineral oil replacement.

* Olive Oil - Extract of olive. Emollient. Superior penetrating ability. Used in lipsticks, hairdressings, shampoos, soaps and conditioners.


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* PEG -100 Stearate - Derived from stearic aid. Emulsifier for creams and lotions.

* PEG -150 Distearate - Form stabilizer; hair and skin conditioner.


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* Sea Kelp - Ahnfeltia extract. The calcined ashes of seaweeds, from which iodine is obtained; a large, coarse seaweed or wrack. Skin soother.

* Sesame Oil - A light, emollient oil obtained from sesame seeds.

* Sodium Lauryl/Laureth Suffate - The sodium salt of sulfated ethoxylated lauryl alcohol. A high foaming, viscous surfactant. Cleansing agent for shampoos.

* Sodium laureth - 13 Carboxylate - An anionic surfactant increasing the cleansing power of some shampoos.

* Stearic acid - A common, naturally occurring fatty acid widely used as an inexpensive primary emulsifying agent. When neutralized with triethanolamine, it functions as a tremendous thickening agent. Its soap -like character enables it to penetrate the skin and to have emollient, skin -softening properties.

* Stearyl Alcohol - An emulsion stabilizer; also adds body to a lotion.

Quoted from http://www.altmednetwork.net/skincare/bad_ingredients.html
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i'm exposing myself to CANCER???????
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Hi Jin yee, what do u think of the below ingredients? Harmful to acne skin?

Ingredients:
Deionised water, Ethylene Glycol Mono Sterate, Methyl Paraben, Imidazolidinyl Urea, Propylene Glycol, Triethanolamine, IPM, Stearic acid, Cetyl Alcohol, Cetearyl Alcohol (and) Ceteareth-20, Polyoxyethylene (20) Sobitau Monolaurate, Ginseng/Russian Angelica Sineenis Dieis/ Matrimony Vine Extract, Ginseng Extract, Vitamin E, Green Tea oil extract, Green Tea Perfume
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I think the ingredients are ok. But one thing I am not comfortable is the perfume. Is this a product from Bio-essence? Hmm..Because they really like to use ginseng.


QUOTE(cocolala @ Oct 27 2006, 03:48 PM)
I found the below info but it seems that even Neutrogena moisturizer for sensitive also contains these ingredients...  unsure.gif

Irritating Ingredients That Can Be Found in
Skin Care Products

* These are pore clogging and often irritating ingredients.  Avoid any skin care products that include these ingredients if you are acne prone or have sensitive skin.
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* Almond Oil - An oil extracted from the seeds of sweet almonds and used as an emollient.

* Apricot Kernel Oil - Oil expressed from the seeds of apricots.
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* Butylene Glycol - A petroleum derived mechanical ingredient.
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* Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride - The mixed triester of glycerin and caprylic and capric acids. An emollient ester derived form coconut oil with good lubricating properties.

* Carnauba Wax - Extracted from the leaves of the Brazilian wax palm tree. Emollient and moisturizing and used for its skin protectant properties.

* Castor Oil - Emollient, natural oil. Used in hair dressings, lipsticks, and skin care lotions. Obtained from the castor bean.

* Ceteareth -20 - Derived from cetearyl alcohol through ethoxylation. Used with the parent alcohol or with other fatty alcohols, it functions as a primary emulsifier and thickening agent.

* Cetearyl Alcohol - A waxy, crystalline solid used as an emulsifier. Not to be confused with drying, ethyl alcohols.

* Cetyl Alcohol - A secondary emulsifier that thickens or adds body to lotions. Not to be confused with drying, ethyl alcohols.

* Cocoa Butter - Obtained from cocoa beans, used as an emollient. Used in suntan lotions as well as the manufacture of chocolate.

* Coconut Oil - Natural oil derived from coconuts. Has a defatting effect on skin which is overcome by using coconut oil - deprived esters rather than the oil itself. Surfactants derived from coconut oil have good cleansing properties and are generally known to be mild.

* Corn Oil - Natural golden - colored oil expressed from corn kernels, zea mays. America's premier native emollient oil. Rich in linoleic acid, one of the three essential fatty acids.
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* D&C Red #33 - Certified monoazo colorant permitted for use in drugs and cosmetics but not in food.

* Decyl Oleate - The ester of decyl alcohol and oleic acid. An emollient that adds body to lotions.

* Disodium OleamideMEA - Sulfosuccinate - A wax -like solid surfactant used as a solubilizer and wetting agent in bath preparations and lotions.
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* Evening Primrose Oil - Helps your body replenish moisture lost to tanning, minimizing flaking and peeling for the appearance of a longer - lasting tan.
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* Glyceryl Stearate - A monster of glycerine and steric acid. An emollient and emulsifier.
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* Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil - Vegetable oil thickened through hydrogenation. Increases the stability of the oil while retaining the protective emolliency.
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* Isopropyl Myristate - The ester of isopropyl alcohol and myristic acid. It spreads very easily and promotes a dry feeling.

* Isopropyl Palmitate - The ester of isopropyl alcohol and palmitic acid. Spreads more readily than isopropyl myristate.
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* Kelp Extract - Extracted from a north American species of brown seaweed, Macrocystis pyriferae. High in silicon, which is believed to keep the skin from wrinkling and sagging, kelp is considered an important nutrient source for cells. It has been used to treat anemia and in cases of obesity because of its high iodine content, which has a normalizing effect on the thyroid. Iodine is known to be pore clogging. Avoid any kelp extract if you are acne prone or have sensitive skin.

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* Lanolin - A refined derivative of the unctuous fat - like sebaceous secretion of sheep. It consists of a highly complex mixture of esters of high molecular weight aliphatic, steroid or triterpenoid alcohols and fatty acids. Obtained from the wax found on sheep's wool; refined and purified to cosmetic specifications. Excellent emollient, skin lubricant and protectant, capable of absorbing water in an amount equal to 50% of its weight. Rich in cholesterol and other skin - friendly sterols.

* Lanolin Alcohols - Distilled and deodorized solid with excellent emolliency to skin and hair. Contains up to 30% cholesterol and related sterols.

* Laureth -23 - An emulsifier. The polyethylene glycol ether of lauryl alcohol. 
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* Methylparaben/Propylparaben - Food grade preservatives developed in Europe and used to ensure shelf life, hygienic stability of products. One of the most commonly used preservative in cosmetics today and is non -irritating, non -sensitizing and non -toxic.

* Mink Oil - An oil similar to human sebum; this oil is obtained from the subdermal fatty tissue of minks. It has soothing, amplifying, conditioning, and protective properties, making it an important component of dry skin products. High in unsaturated triglycerides, mink oil has tremendous spreading capabilities.

* Myristyl Myristate - Ester of myristyl alcohol and myristic acid. Esters are light oils used as cosmetic emollients.
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* Octyl Palmitate - An emollient amplifying ester commonly used as a mineral oil replacement.

* Olive Oil - Extract of olive. Emollient. Superior penetrating ability. Used in lipsticks, hairdressings, shampoos, soaps and conditioners.
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* PEG -100 Stearate - Derived from stearic aid. Emulsifier for creams and lotions.

* PEG -150 Distearate - Form stabilizer; hair and skin conditioner.
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* Sea Kelp - Ahnfeltia extract. The calcined ashes of seaweeds, from which iodine is obtained; a large, coarse seaweed or wrack. Skin soother.

* Sesame Oil - A light, emollient oil obtained from sesame seeds.

* Sodium Lauryl/Laureth Suffate - The sodium salt of sulfated ethoxylated lauryl alcohol. A high foaming, viscous surfactant. Cleansing agent for shampoos.

* Sodium laureth - 13 Carboxylate - An anionic surfactant increasing the cleansing power of some shampoos.

* Stearic acid - A common, naturally occurring fatty acid widely used as an inexpensive primary emulsifying agent. When neutralized with triethanolamine, it functions as a tremendous thickening agent. Its soap -like character enables it to penetrate the skin and to have emollient, skin -softening properties.

* Stearyl Alcohol - An emulsion stabilizer; also adds body to a lotion.

Quoted from http://www.altmednetwork.net/skincare/bad_ingredients.html
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Thanks for the info. Anyway, some person might be irritated by certain product. So, its really hard to detail down everything. As I said, if you really intend to have good skin, use only water. The Diamond filtered water will do, but imagine the pollution that we are encounter, do you think with only water you can get away from the dirt and debris that you faced everyday?

QUOTE(hunnylis @ Oct 29 2006, 02:49 AM)
i'm exposing myself to CANCER???????
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Well, there's always pros and cons. Seriously, which chemical does not has side effect?



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Why not try to take vitamin C and EPO? I'm taking both and my face is free of those big big acnes liao wor. But still got small ones vmad.gif
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QUOTE(jinyee80 @ Oct 29 2006, 02:43 PM)
I think the ingredients are ok. But one thing I am not comfortable is the perfume. Is this a product from Bio-essence? Hmm..Because they really like to use ginseng.
Thanks for the info. Anyway, some person might be irritated by certain product.
This is Ginvera product, same company with Bio-Essence.
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jinyee,

i've been using cetaphil gentle cleanser for abt 2 mths already...
n just used the panoxyl for abt one week

n my face is clearing but there's still some little ones n scars...
so far so good

just wanna ask if this regimen has whitening effect...
coz i noticed that my face is a bit whiter...
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QUOTE(nicKit @ Nov 1 2006, 11:40 AM)
jinyee,

i've been using cetaphil gentle cleanser for abt 2 mths already...
n just used the panoxyl for abt one week

n my face is clearing but there's still some little ones n scars...
so far so good

just wanna ask if this regimen has whitening effect...
coz i noticed that my face is a bit whiter...
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Where to buy panoxyl ??

My NOTS is going to expired. cry.gif

My face turn fairer, anyway I m a guy.
I think I m too fair, as a guy, fairer than many of the girls.. shakehead.gif shocking.gif

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Hi Jinyee,


I'm a new member in this forum. I'm interested in this topic since i'm having problem with acne from the past 4 months.

I have tried your recommendation to use the cetaphil gentle cleanser. I like to use it since its very mild, BUT it didn't clean my face very well and create a lot of blackheads (eventhough i always use cleansing oil to remove my make up). Then i stopped using it. Do you think the liquid cleanser from neutrogena will clean my face better?

Another question:
I'm using tinted moisturizer every day. Compare with Foundation, which one is better? FYI, i have an oily skin type.


Thank you very much smile.gif


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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Nov 1 2006, 01:01 PM)
Where to buy panoxyl ??

My NOTS is going to expired.  cry.gif

My face turn fairer, anyway I m a guy.
I think I m too fair, as a guy, fairer than many of the girls.. shakehead.gif  shocking.gif
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u can get panoxyl at guardian...

i've searched watson but failed...
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Hi everyone, I'm new here. Recently I found Aesop Chamomile concentrate Anti Blemish Masque very good for my acne. Normally I'll hav some acne during my periods, I just apply the masque on the acne spot b4 i go to bed. Next day just wash ur face like normal routine n the acne is cleared! rclxms.gif It really works.
At first I bought it for my bf to use, coz he starts to grow lots of acne for the pass few months and it just keep popping out of no where doh.gif . I have bought alot of cream, gel, tea tree oil for phamarcy and beauty shops all doesnt works for him (now i have most of the acne treatment cream lying there untouch n most just opened.. can say i spend alot on buying these product) sad.gif . So I did some research on acne n most ppl recommend this product fr Aesop. Is a little expensive, so i bought the small tube and it works very well on my bf's face. Same routine, continuous to leave it over nite on the acne spots for 2 to 3 nites and now his face is all clear.. just left some acne scar that needs to b lighten rclxms.gif .
I hope my information will help u all... good luck on fighting acne!! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sweetlhh @ Nov 3 2006, 10:13 AM)
Hi everyone, I'm new here. Recently I found Aesop Chamomile concentrate Anti Blemish Masque very good for my acne. Normally I'll hav some acne during my periods, I just apply the masque on the acne spot b4 i go to bed. Next day just wash ur face like normal routine n the acne is cleared!  rclxms.gif  It really works.
At first I bought it for my bf to use, coz he starts to grow lots of acne for the pass few months  and it just keep popping out of no where  doh.gif . I have bought alot of cream, gel, tea tree oil for phamarcy and beauty shops all doesnt works for him (now i have most of the acne treatment cream lying there untouch n most just opened.. can say i spend alot on buying these product)  sad.gif . So I did some research on acne n most ppl recommend this product fr Aesop. Is a little expensive, so i bought the small tube and it works very well on my bf's face. Same routine, continuous to leave it over nite on the acne spots for 2 to 3 nites and now his face is all clear.. just left some acne scar that needs to b lighten  rclxms.gif .
I hope my information will help u all... good luck on fighting acne!!  thumbup.gif
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where u bought this brand called Aesop from!??how much is the product costs?
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where u bought this brand called Aesop from!??how much is the product costs?
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I bought the 15ml tube size for RM79. Aesop is under Kensapothecary. U can find it at:
KLCC - there is a counter at eclipse entrance. Is opposite L'occitane, situated at 1st flr.
Mid Valley - inside metrojaya, cosmetic floor, situated at grd flr.
1 U - new wings, near to Parkson, cant remember which floor is it.
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jinyee,

i'm 19 now and i have been dealing with my acne for years... but none of the products really work for me... i have a combination and sensitive skin... oily at the t-zone and a little dry at the cheeks... i always have acne breakout nearly every weeks... and i also have blackheads problem... currently, i'm using st.ives apricot face wash for oily/acne prone skin... but, it's kind of too dry for me... and i'm planning to change to cetaphil... but, it seems like it's a bit difficult to find cetaphil's product at my place... do you have any other recommendation??

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I bought the mosturizing CREAM instead of the lotion..... how arr..... it cost RM41.50!! so expensive!! The only got the cream.. will it work as well?
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can keep the panoxyl in the fridge? coz the manual written there <25 celcius
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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Nov 1 2006, 01:01 PM)
Where to buy panoxyl ??

My NOTS is going to expired.  cry.gif

My face turn fairer, anyway I m a guy.
I think I m too fair, as a guy, fairer than many of the girls.. shakehead.gif  shocking.gif
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Wowee...maybe u need a suntan biggrin.gif . You can get PanOxyl at Guardian anyway.

QUOTE(rinz @ Nov 1 2006, 01:31 PM)
Hi Jinyee,
I'm a new member in this forum. I'm interested in this topic since i'm having problem with acne from the past 4 months.

I have tried your recommendation to use the cetaphil gentle cleanser. I like to use it since its very mild, BUT it didn't clean my face very well and create a lot of blackheads (eventhough i always use cleansing oil to remove my make up). Then i stopped using it. Do you think the liquid cleanser from neutrogena will clean my face better?

Another question:
I'm using tinted moisturizer every day. Compare with Foundation, which one is better? FYI, i have an oily skin type.
Thank you very much smile.gif
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For those who has more oily skin, I would certainly recommend the liquid neutrogena, but in the condition that you wash your skin ONLY once per day with that.Then, you apply the NOTS.

If your tinted moisturizer color fit to your skin color then its fine, because as you know that tinted one their color is limited. I think you just apply a thin layer of the normal moisturizer, then apply the foundation. Make sure the foundation is labelled as non-comedogenic!

QUOTE(ken_zie @ Nov 7 2006, 01:22 PM)
jinyee,

i'm 19 now and i have been dealing with my acne for years... but none of the products really work for me... i have a combination and sensitive skin... oily at the t-zone and a little dry at the cheeks... i always have acne breakout nearly every weeks... and i also have blackheads problem... currently, i'm using st.ives apricot face wash for oily/acne prone skin... but, it's kind of too dry for me... and i'm planning to change to cetaphil... but, it seems like it's a bit difficult to find cetaphil's product at my place... do you have any other recommendation??
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You don't actually have to us st.ives apricot cleanser because it will cause irritation on certain people and on the other hand, its drying.

You could find Cetaphil in Guardian and Vitacare. I would advise those who wanted to start using it to buy a small size one rather than straight away going to the biggest size one.
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ok... now, i'm starting to use cetaphil gentle cleanser and the moisturizer... and my dermatologist actually gave me tretinon... so, should i apply tretinon before moisturizer of after?
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has anyone tried the cellnique skin action sebum gel? i've read pretty good reviews about it but i'm still a bit apprehensive.

sweet lhh, the aesop one u recommended should be used as a spot treatment? does it work for blackheads and whiteheads?
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QUOTE(ken_zie @ Nov 10 2006, 07:49 PM)
ok... now, i'm starting to use cetaphil gentle cleanser and the moisturizer... and my dermatologist actually gave me tretinon... so, should i apply tretinon before moisturizer of after?
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If you were not using NOTS, its ok for you to use trenitoin. However, you should make sure that you moisturize your skin well cause it gonna cause dryness.
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Hi Jinyee, thanks for your input.

Hi all, any recommended liquid foundation for acne skin? How about Avene Liquid foundation?
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QUOTE(rinz @ Nov 13 2006, 03:33 PM)
Hi Jinyee, thanks for your input.

Hi all, any recommended liquid foundation for acne skin? How about Avene Liquid foundation?
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I think everyone know that MAKE UP clog pores. Acne Skin should not apply any make up. Even the most mild foundation is also not recommended for problematic skin.

Try to treat skin well, u will have pimples free skin soon. And u don't need make up to cover up.

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Im following the regime for about 1 week now... my face is less oily edy... really can see the difference it makes... there are signs of peeling and dryness altho i moisturise with cetaphile cream moisturiser. I guess its just normal.... =)

Thanks Jin Yee~!!!
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QUOTE(erikachen @ Nov 14 2006, 11:34 AM)
Im following the regime for about 1 week now... my face is less oily edy... really can see the difference it makes... there are signs of peeling and dryness altho i moisturise with cetaphile cream moisturiser. I guess its just normal.... =)

Thanks Jin Yee~!!!
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U use NOTS or Panocylc??

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QUOTE(erikachen @ Nov 14 2006, 11:34 AM)
Im following the regime for about 1 week now... my face is less oily edy... really can see the difference it makes... there are signs of peeling and dryness altho i moisturise with cetaphile cream moisturiser. I guess its just normal.... =)

Thanks Jin Yee~!!!
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less oil is true .. but my skin becomes rough .. now i only use the acnegel on certain spot..
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which one is better actually? for the ppl who try both panoxyle and nots b4, can gv any feedback? coz my nots is going to expired soon and without other choice i maybe swith to panoxyl.
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NOTS so far is still my preference. But since they gonna stop it, so, its really a dilemma currently.
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U use NOTS or Panocylc??
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I thought NOTS isnt in the market anymore....? So i bought the PanOxly instead. Skin became dry and peeling.... but only on the ance spot where I applied the BP la...
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QUOTE(erikachen @ Nov 14 2006, 11:32 PM)
I thought NOTS isnt in the market anymore....? So i bought the PanOxly instead. Skin became dry and peeling.... but only on the ance spot where I applied the BP la...
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I am in the middle of negotiating with a US supplier because the BP that he produced is similar to NOTS. If ok, then would you all interested on that?



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i m quite interested. can gv more info abt tat?

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i m quite interested. can gv more info abt tat?
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Since its from US and its drug items, so I think who can help me on the custom side? I mean whats the procedure on getting the permit, stuff like that.
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i went to Dubai, and tried my luck at pharmacies there for NOTS. and I was told that they are out of stock everywhere. and in the end i purchased a Panoxyl instead for about RM11.
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QUOTE(cocolala @ Nov 18 2006, 12:51 PM)
i went to Dubai, and tried my luck at pharmacies there for NOTS. and I was told that they are out of stock everywhere. and in the end i purchased a Panoxyl instead for about RM11.
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Well, seems like its not the problem of Malaysia. Why not majority of us go to neutrogena.com and send an email towards the demand for NOTS since it really helps a lot in acne. Teamwork is more powerful I guest.


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QUOTE(jinyee80 @ Nov 15 2006, 07:14 PM)
Since its from US and its drug items, so I think who can help me on the custom side? I mean whats the procedure on getting the permit, stuff like that.
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if you are just buying one carton, i guess there is no need of going through the custom right? Perhaps it's just like ppl purchase items from the internet?
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May I know where can I get NOTS in klang valley? I'm a noobs when come to my skin... cry.gif
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Jin Yee, I'm using a cleanser that buy from beauty sallon. After 3 weeks, my acne start to break out. Is it mean that I'm not suitable for the cleanser? Should I change it? I will post the ingredient later...
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The ingredients stated below:

Cleanser: Glycerin, Sodium, Laureth, Sulfosuceinate, Cocoanphodiacetate, Sodium PCA, Allantoin, Aleo Vera, D.Panthenol, Glycerin, Disodiumlaureth Sulfosuccinate, Lactic Acid, Menthy, Paraben, Prophyl Paraben

Oil Control Gel: Hyulumic Acid, Bera-glucan, Linoleic Acid, Vitamin E, Vitamin A, Squalane, Sodium PCA, Aloe Vera, Sodium Lactate, Green Tea Extract, Bisabotol

I have no idea what the ingredient consist... cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(Jenn V @ Nov 20 2006, 08:22 PM)
The ingredients stated below:

Cleanser: Glycerin, Sodium, Laureth, Sulfosuceinate, Cocoanphodiacetate, Sodium PCA, Allantoin, Aleo Vera, D.Panthenol, Glycerin, Disodiumlaureth Sulfosuccinate, Lactic Acid, Menthy, Paraben, Prophyl Paraben

Oil Control Gel: Hyulumic Acid, Bera-glucan, Linoleic Acid, Vitamin E, Vitamin A, Squalane, Sodium PCA, Aloe Vera, Sodium Lactate, Green Tea Extract, Bisabotol

I have no idea what the ingredient consist... cry.gif  cry.gif
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Hmm...is this cleanser came from Madam Hsu. Since you mentioned that its from the beauty saloon, I think you should ask the beautician to check your skin 1st, then recommend you an appropriate one.


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Actually I used to take accutane. But after few months, I would like to rest for a while because I noe that actually not good for health. However, normally I wanna try new skin care product, my sensitive skin sure got problem and cause break out. Maybe I should stick with the accutane and use those cleanser provided by doctor... cry.gif cry.gif
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Well, seems like its not the problem of Malaysia. Why not majority of us go to neutrogena.com and send an email towards the demand for NOTS since it really helps a lot in acne. Teamwork is more powerful I guest.
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Agree!! All of us should go to neutrogena.com and send an email towards the demand for NOTS!! rclxms.gif

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Agree!! All of us should go to neutrogena.com and send an email towards the demand for NOTS!!   rclxms.gif
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People,

Just got a update from my buddy, and he tried to call Johnson&Johnson, Neutrogena Malaysia and the response from the correspondent person is that - Neutrogena did NOT stop NOTS, its just that its the management decision to stop importing it. So what we need to do is to poll everyone together, each of your all that would like to contribute in bringing back NOTS, please DO send an email emphasizing your request for the continunity of NOTS to kwong3@conmy.jnj.com.

Those who would like to phone call, please call to the directline which is +03-7781-4166.

I do hope everyone could work together therefore we can bring NOTS back in Malaysia's market.

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Hi Jinyee,

I'm a newbie here rclxub.gif and has huge red pimples pop up around my chin area during my menses. Its quite embrassing and i tried many OTC products to dried up quickly but fail. Any good product to recommend or home remeady? I heard applying honey to the pimple could reduce the imflamation.

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i've emailed... n someone named kristine wong has replied me that they will forward to the management for their attention... just for updates...

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Hi Jinyee,

I'm a newbie here  rclxub.gif and has huge red pimples pop up around my chin area during my menses. Its quite embrassing and i tried many OTC products to dried up quickly but fail. Any good product to recommend or home remeady? I heard applying honey to the pimple could reduce the imflamation.

Thanks  tongue.gif
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Honey? Hmm..never heard about it. But I did really recommend people using mild soap. Home-made remedy? Hmm...aloe vera might do, but to some people, they might get irritation.

Try to use mild soap 1st.

QUOTE(nicKit @ Nov 28 2006, 12:02 PM)
i've emailed... n someone named kristine wong has replied me that they will forward to the management for their attention... just for updates...

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Ya. that's right. Thanks for the support. With you all helps, I do help that the management would bring NOTS back.

Why would they stop such a good product in Malaysia? I really dun understand.




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Dear JinYee,

You are really an expert in this field. Thanks to be a consultant for us.

what do you think about E-Excel product? it is a direct sales product where the agents claim that their product are produced naturally. However, my skin is too sensitive and their product is not suitable for my skin.

I'm currently use product from Natorny. I guess you never heard about this name, right? the Natorny beautician also said their products are made from Herbs. last time i used and it is quite effective although it takes time. the product is too expensive, therefore i switch to other brand. then my skin back to worst again. now even though i use Natrony product but yet my skin still very worst. if you never heard about Natorny, i will post the ingredients by tonight or this weekend. so that you can advice whether the product is safe to use or not.

FYI, yesterday only i read this forum and only know the cleanser called Cetaphil. after work, i straight dropped by Guardian and bought a bottle of Cetaphil. Hope that i can see the result very soon. however, i afraid that my skin will be very dry if i only use Cetaphil cleanser and Panoxl on the Acne. Please advice if i need to use any moistruriser.

thanks a lot,
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QUOTE(nj922 @ Nov 29 2006, 01:19 PM)
Dear JinYee,

You are really an expert in this field. Thanks to be a consultant for us.

what do you think about E-Excel product? it is a direct sales product where the agents claim that their product are produced naturally. However, my skin is too sensitive and their product is not suitable for my skin.

I'm currently use product from Natorny. I guess you never heard about this name, right? the Natorny beautician also said their products are made from Herbs. last time i used and it is quite effective although it takes time. the product is too expensive, therefore i switch to other brand. then my skin back to worst again. now even though i use Natrony product but yet my skin still very worst. if you never heard about Natorny, i will post the ingredients by tonight or this weekend. so that you can advice whether the product is safe to use or not.

FYI, yesterday only i read this forum and only know the cleanser called Cetaphil. after work, i straight dropped by Guardian and bought a bottle of Cetaphil. Hope that i can see the result very soon. however, i afraid that my skin will be very dry if i only use Cetaphil cleanser and Panoxl on the Acne. Please advice if i need to use any moistruriser.

thanks a lot,
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If you awared of my previous posts, I would normally advise new user to apply BP once per two nights. Use Cetaphil to cleanse your face daily, once or twice will do. Then, apply evenly Panoxyl. I am really hoping that NOTS will come back in the market, otherwise we have really limited choice for Benzoyl Peroxide product.

Some of you might find out that I kept on repeating the same saying which is mild cleanser+BP. Well, this is the way that I found most effective to acne sufferers. Though it might not work for a portion of people but it did work wonderfully for those range from severe to mild acne.

I do sincerely hope that this post would help you all. I earn nothing from keep on promoting the products. I am not the ambassador nor marketing staff. Have a nice day.

Life is wonderful. =)



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hi jinyee,
I'd like to know about your opinion on retin A.. is it recommended? cos i'm thinking about switching to this after my current tube of panoxyl finished..

this is my face regimen, i'd like your opinion on what I should do and not do..
morning:
1.cleanse with simple regulating exfoliator wash (it doesn't really exfoliate)
2.panoxyl
3.moisturiser (I use aiken tea tree oil lotion, very light)

night:
1. cleanse with za oil cleanser followed by simple cleanser
2. tone with sk2 (sometimes only)
3. panoxyl
4. moisturise (the body shop vit e face mist then aiken moisturiser)

but of course i waited till the item that i put on my face dried before proceed with the next one..

i started on panoxyl and also za oil cleanser 2 weeks ago... my face is less oily but the first week i started using panoxyl the skin on my cheek peels a bit but now ok already..and also less breakouts..

and i also take antibiotics for my pimples..it's called myscoin or something.. this is the 2nd month already.....

thank you..


edited: by the way, you advised that we should only wash our face like 2 times a day but the doctor that i went to told me to wash 4 times a day i.e. morning, noon, evening and night... this i'm confused...
but i only wash my face 2 times la.. morning and night..

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QUOTE(neuroticmind @ Nov 30 2006, 10:37 PM)
hi jinyee,
I'd like to know about your opinion on retin A.. is it recommended? cos i'm thinking about switching to this after my current tube of panoxyl finished..

this is my face regimen, i'd like your opinion on what I should do and not do..
morning:
1.cleanse with simple regulating exfoliator wash (it doesn't really exfoliate)
2.panoxyl
3.moisturiser (I use aiken tea tree oil lotion, very light)

night:
1. cleanse with za oil cleanser followed by simple cleanser
2. tone with sk2 (sometimes only)
3. panoxyl
4. moisturise (the body shop vit e face mist then aiken moisturiser)

but of course i waited till the item that i put on my face dried before proceed with the next one..

i started on panoxyl and also za oil cleanser 2 weeks ago... my face is less oily but the first week i started using panoxyl the skin on my cheek peels a bit but now ok already..and also less breakouts..

and i also take antibiotics for my pimples..it's called myscoin or something.. this is the 2nd month already.....

thank you..
edited: by the way, you advised that we should only wash our face like 2 times a day but the doctor that i went to told me to wash 4 times a day i.e. morning, noon, evening and night... this i'm confused...
but i only wash my face 2 times la.. morning and night..
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FYI, wash twice a day is already sufficient. You should go to visit a dermatologist, rather than a doctor. Otherwise you might seek advice from skin specialist. Its ridiculous to wash face 4 times per day.

Moving from Benzoyl Peroxide to Retin-A, to me, its not advisable. Because since your skin could not even tolerate BP, Retin-A is much more drier than BP, so perhaps your skin will peel again. Anyway, please apply on place that is acne prone.

Please do use a medication for at least 2.5months, otherwise if you keep on changing the products while did not give your skin sufficient time to adapt to the medication, you will end up wasting your skin, risking your skin and wasting money as well.


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Hi All,

Would appreciate your input on this product.. particularly the supplement and the gel..

http://www.acnacare.com/

Also, heard of LHE Acne Phototherapy? Is this recommended? Do you knw how much it will roughly cost?

http://www.bloomsofeden.com/services3.htm

http://www.koskinlaser.com/otherservices_lhe_ac.html

Thanks a bunch..

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i've been using ur regimen for a 2 mths liao... the breakouts is definitely very little... i'm very happy... thanks to u...

my face is a bit rough now... is it possible to reduce that? mayb a scrub? do u recommend to add in a scrub now? or wait for a few more mths? i'm considering st yves scrub...


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panoxyl doesnt rili work for me sad.gif my pimple has no changes after apply this :S
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How bout applying apple cider vinegar on your face after cleansing? Read on the net that it helps acne..

Any comments?

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does evening primerose oil help reduce acne?
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QUOTE(nicKit @ Dec 1 2006, 10:58 AM)
jinyee,

i've been using ur regimen for a 2 mths liao... the breakouts is definitely very little... i'm very happy... thanks to u...

my face is a bit rough now... is it possible to reduce that? mayb a scrub? do u recommend to add in a scrub now? or wait for a few more mths? i'm considering st yves scrub...
thanks, jinyee... u're the BEST !! notworthy.gif  thumbup.gif  cheers.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Please stay put on your current regimen. Lets wait for 6 months down the road, then I will recommend you scrub. Anyway, please do not go for St Ives. scrub, its not as good as it was advertised. It will irritate acne skin.

Go for more branded one instead. Anyway, doesn't mean that expensive one is good one. Bear in mind!

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How about evening primerose oil?
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It will helps, instead emu oil will also help, shark liver oil will also help but one thing, it might cause irritation and would you wan to risk your skin for that? Scrutinize on the ingredient because definately they will add in preservatives which this will irritate the skin.

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panoxyl doesnt rili work for me sad.gif my pimple has no changes after apply this :S
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I did not really use Panoxyl before and from others feedback, it is the one and only one 2.5% BP available in the market after the exit of NOTS. Seriously, we do not NOTS. Guys, please send them demanding requests!!!

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How bout applying apple cider vinegar on your face after cleansing? Read on the net that it helps acne..

Any comments?

Thanks.
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It does not. Just follow simple and easy method. Cleanse with mild soap, then moisturizer with lite moisturizer, then apply on the counter treatment. Thats all. Perhaps apple cider might work for some, and perhaps some might not works.

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thanks. Thank you very much. Does evening primerose oil work for men?

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Thanks Jinyee,

Btw, care to shed some light on this? Acnacare and the LHE treatment thingy.. Thanks!

QUOTE(?ndc?s?ve @ Dec 1 2006, 09:00 AM)
Hi All,

Would appreciate your input on this product.. particularly the supplement and the gel..

http://www.acnacare.com/

Also, heard of LHE Acne Phototherapy? Is this recommended? Do you knw how much it will roughly cost?

http://www.bloomsofeden.com/services3.htm

http://www.koskinlaser.com/otherservices_lhe_ac.html

Thanks a bunch..

Regards,

Aiman
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jinyee,

sorry ar... me keep posting... tongue.gif wanna ask if cetaphil will reduce oil on my face? coz i'm oily on the T-zone and open pores on my cheeks near the nose... if i add in moisturizer to my current regimen, which would u recommend? i really dun like moisturizer coz sometimes it'll add more oil to my face...

i'll be going away to phuket next week... is there anything i should take care of? can i put mentholeum spf65++ sunblock on my face?

thanks.


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Thanks Jinyee,

Btw, care to shed some light on this? Acnacare and the LHE treatment thingy.. Thanks!
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I glanced through the Acnacare and their main ingredient would be zinc. Well, zinc is good for the skin but I don't see its effectiveness in dealing with acne on the counter.

Will let you know about the LHE after I read thru.

QUOTE(nicKit @ Dec 2 2006, 11:04 AM)
jinyee,

sorry ar... me keep posting... tongue.gif  wanna ask if cetaphil will reduce oil on my face? coz i'm oily on the T-zone and open pores on my cheeks near the nose... if i add in moisturizer to my current regimen, which would u recommend? i really dun like moisturizer coz sometimes it'll add more oil to my face...

i'll be going away to phuket next week... is there anything i should take care of? can i put mentholeum spf65++ sunblock on my face?

thanks.
nicKit.
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Cetaphil will return your skin to its regular form, meaning it will let your skin to be itself. Then, your skin will automatically equipped itself with defensive fence to guarded itself skin problem. Actually our skin could deal itself with problem, juz that due to certain problems such as misuse of cosmetic problems, pollutions, and etc stops it from functioning well.

Ya. just exclude moisturizer from your regimen if you don't like. Its not compulsory anyway.

Use the watery one, one color package with a green cap one for the sunscreen.
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Use the watery one, one color package with a green cap one for the sunscreen.
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what do you meant the watery and with a green cap? what brand is it?
can i use it frequently?
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can i know...acne skin can use mask??
actually i dono is it acne...it feel inside..quite big..sometime no feel..sometime itchy..sometimes pain when it come out..
i threat my face long time ago...but it still keep come out a lot acne..i am so sad..
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if you guys wanna buy cosmetics specially for acne, the best brand will be ettusais cause those cosmetics tht they sell are mostly for acne prone skin.
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does Ettusais availble in malaysia?
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Dear Jin Yee,

i accidentally bought a Cetachil Moistrurizing Cream which is in pink color. can i use it during day and night time? i feel very sticky when i apply it.


i found one of the thread you replied where we can use Netrogena Oil-free moisture SPF15 during day time. The moisture is in cream type or lotion type? can i apply liquid foundation after applying the moistrurizers?

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QUOTE(nj922 @ Dec 3 2006, 12:05 PM)
Dear Jin Yee,

i accidentally bought a Cetachil Moistrurizing Cream which is in pink color. can i use it during day and night time? i feel very sticky when i apply it.
i found one of the thread you replied where we can use Netrogena Oil-free moisture SPF15 during day time. The moisture is in cream type or lotion type? can i apply liquid foundation after applying the moistrurizers?

thanks,
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You should have look for the green color one. I did not encourage people to use cream of the daytime and for night time either. Unless you are exposed in an air-conditioned environment because cream is rather thicker and I afraid the reaction that you sweat responded to the cream might create irritation to the skin.

Yes, indeed I did say that Neutrogena Oil-Free SPF15 can be used during daytime. Its a lotion type with a small pump on the top. I believe that Neutrogena (M) is now withdrawing the stocks for several moisturizers and NOTS as well. They said its the management decision.

Yup, you could apply liquid foundation after that. Just wait it to dry completely, then you apply evenly on it.

Have a nice day!



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You should have look for the green color one. I did not encourage people to use cream of the daytime and for night time either. Unless you are exposed in an air-conditioned environment because cream is rather thicker and I afraid the reaction that you sweat responded to the cream might create irritation to the skin.

Yes, indeed I did say that Neutrogena Oil-Free SPF15 can be used during daytime. Its a lotion type with a small pump on the top. I believe that Neutrogena (M) is now withdrawing the stocks for several moisturizers and NOTS as well. They said its the management decision.

Yup, you could apply liquid foundation after that. Just wait it to dry completely, then you apply evenly on it.

Have a nice day!
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Noted, I will only apply Cetaphil moistrure cream at night as i sleep in aircon room.

is the Neutrogena Oil-Free SPF15 going to be obsoluted in Malaysia very soon? if there is the case, i think i need to get some stock asap.

btw, do you have any liquid foundation recommend? do i need to remove the foundation with make-up removal to remove the foundation? or I can still use the Cetaphil gentle cleanser?

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hi jinyee,

i've just switched to cetaphil and panoxyl(applied only at night)... it feels good but my skin seems to be turning red the next morning and has a burning sensation sweat.gif kinda itchy as well.. prolly me skin is sensitive >.<

is this normal for the skin to react this way in the beginning stages and will it improve later on?

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hi jinyee,

i've just switched to cetaphil and panoxyl(applied only at night)... it feels good but my skin seems to be turning red the next morning and has a burning sensation  sweat.gif kinda itchy as well.. prolly me skin is sensitive >.<

is this normal for the skin to react this way in the beginning stages and will it improve later on?

rgds
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when i started this regimen, i also feel itchy and a bit burning but it's temporary... so dun worry... right, jinyee? icon_rolleyes.gif
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thanks for the reassurance... hope everythin turns out well..

my face like kena sun burnt lolz... even my boss is commenting on it..

rgds
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thanks for the reassurance... hope everythin turns out well..

my face like kena sun burnt lolz... even my boss is commenting on it..

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so poor... was you applying a lot of PanOxl on your face?
when i applied PanOxl, my acne also got a bit burnt, but it recover very soon.
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Noted, I will only apply Cetaphil moistrure cream at night as i sleep in aircon room.

is the Neutrogena Oil-Free SPF15 going to be obsoluted in Malaysia very soon? if there is the case, i think i need to get some stock asap.

btw, do you have any liquid foundation recommend? do i need to remove the foundation with make-up removal to remove the foundation? or I can still use the Cetaphil gentle cleanser?
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Well, you could seek for maybeline liquid foundation. However, if you could afford, then Bobbi Brown will be fine. Cetaphil is not 'strong' enough to remove waterproof make-up, so perhaps you can go for make-up removing oil. TISS is one of my favorite last time but it has been discontinued. How come the products that are so good and are within my recommended list are mostly discontinued..weird right?

For conventional makeup, Cetaphil will do. No problem. Ya, I heard rumours saying they gonna stop moisturizers in Malaysia as well. They gonna sell the cleanser only and the pore refining range.

QUOTE(?ndc?s?ve @ Dec 4 2006, 10:22 AM)
hi jinyee,

i've just switched to cetaphil and panoxyl(applied only at night)... it feels good but my skin seems to be turning red the next morning and has a burning sensation  sweat.gif kinda itchy as well.. prolly me skin is sensitive >.<

is this normal for the skin to react this way in the beginning stages and will it improve later on?

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QUOTE(nicKit @ Dec 4 2006, 10:45 AM)
when i started this regimen, i also feel itchy and a bit burning but it's temporary... so dun worry... right, jinyee? icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yup, it doesn't matter. Well, its due to the tolerance of your skin towards BP. As it built up its tolerance, then it will works wonderfully. Give yourself some time, 2.5months at least. And please take note to apply once for two days for first-time user, after that, for the 3rd week, you can apply once per day. Kindly NO BP be applied on the daytime, unless you expect hyperpigmentation.



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Yup, it doesn't matter. Well, its due to the tolerance of your skin towards BP. As it built up its tolerance, then it will works wonderfully. Give yourself some time, 2.5months at least. And please take note to apply once for two days for first-time user, after that, for the 3rd week, you can apply once per day. Kindly NO BP be applied on the daytime, unless you expect hyperpigmentation.
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i apply everynight wor.. haha.. now skin red-red and peeling like kena sunburn..

this is my regimen..

morning cleanse with cetaphil and apply acnacare gel..

at night cleanse with cetaphil and apply apple cider vinegar(diluted) wait till dry then apply panoxyl...

btw, just to add.. i go to the gym after work like 3 times a week and only wash my face after, is it ok for the skin?.. i also swim quite often but i wash my face after.. will chlorine be detrimental for the skin? what should i do about it?

thanks a bunch!

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Stumble across this skinb5.. read reviews that it really helps.. any comments on this?

http://www.skinb5.com/

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Last time i visit my dermatologist and he gave me a kind of green color facial foam and it really works good on me and the acne in my face was clear. Now i am using tis regimen : green color facial foam + NOTS. But my prob is whenever i wanna buy the green color facial foam i must travel far from my place to the clinic. So if i ask the doc wat the name of the green color facial foam is, do u think he will tell me easily? coz i wanna buy the facial foam in pharmacieas or if possible watson or guardian. I ask jinyee b4 wat will possibly be the green color facial foam and u tell me tat maybe is SEBAMED. If it is really SEBAMED can it works as well as CETAPHIL? Can u tell me something specific abt tis product coz the dermatologist say tis product can use on other skin problem as well. Thnx.
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QUOTE(?ndc?s?ve @ Dec 5 2006, 11:01 AM)
i apply everynight wor.. haha.. now skin red-red and peeling like kena sunburn..

this is my regimen..

morning cleanse with cetaphil and apply acnacare gel..

at night cleanse with cetaphil and apply apple cider vinegar(diluted) wait till dry then apply panoxyl...

btw, just to add.. i go to the gym after work like 3 times a week and only wash my face after, is it ok for the skin?.. i also swim quite often but i wash my face after.. will chlorine be detrimental for the skin? what should i do about it?

thanks a bunch!
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Going for gym is okie. About swimming, definately chlorine will be harmful to the skin but it depends on its ratio with the water. So, I could not really provide accurate decision for you. Anyway, PLEASE apply NOTS once per two nights 1st.

QUOTE(nkw1987 @ Dec 5 2006, 10:05 PM)
Jinyee80:
Last time i visit my dermatologist and he gave me a kind of green color facial foam and it really works good on me and the acne in my face was clear. Now i am using tis regimen : green color facial foam + NOTS. But my prob is whenever i wanna buy the green color facial foam i must travel far from my place to the clinic. So if i ask the doc wat the name of the green color facial foam is, do u think he will tell me easily? coz i wanna buy the facial foam in pharmacieas or if possible watson or guardian. I ask jinyee b4 wat will possibly be the green color facial foam and u tell me tat maybe is SEBAMED. If it  is really SEBAMED can it works as well as CETAPHIL? Can u tell me something specific abt tis product coz the dermatologist say tis product can use on other skin problem as well. Thnx.
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I think the green color facial foam is SEBAMED, is it cleansing lotion or its cleansing cream? It will work as well as CETAPHIL but one thing is that Sebamed is so expensive compared to CETAPHIL, thats the reason I recommend a cheaper solution for you all. Hey, this regimen is affordable and attainable.

Just go to GUARDIAN or WATSONS, try to open up SEBAMED bottle and smell the scent, if its the same, then its. Normally dermatologist will add portion of water in to make it more, which I think from that they manage to derive more money.

Well, SEBAMED is for problem skin. Anyway, its gentle, so its for problem skin and normal skin.



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hi jin yee,

I have oily skin. Oily even in air-con room. So, any recommendation on skin brightening/whitening products which r mild enough for my skin? thanx!
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jinyee,

i got a ques here.should i apply my moisturiser AFTER or BEFORE i put on topical solution(differin) on my pimples??i usually waits about 15-30 min before applying moisturiser.tq
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use drug like Roaccutane. Better get advice from doctor first...got side effect... wrong 'makan' can cause death.

I use this drug before...last time bought is 1 biji cost RM10. Bought a box but must get doctor's prescription

this is extreme acne....full face cover lor. Not the tiny minnie one or two pimples...

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i use to have pimples and break out all the time since standard 6, till when i was in my college year i started to use a france product call "GErnetic", then everything just gone...takes sometimes like few months to see the result but it works..but still have to maintain it everyday. the product it 's kinda expensive but can use for long time lar..hahhaha.That's the only product i can trust but its kinda hard to find. Actually pimples wont go forever , it will be one or two zits tat pops out once in a while due to the toxic in our body, just have to detoxific your body or just apply the immuno mask and it will be smooth and crystal clear the next morning, girls must be hardworking in order to stay preety !! hahahaa
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QUOTE(bleachzrockz @ Dec 6 2006, 09:58 AM)
jinyee,

i got a ques here.should i apply my moisturiser AFTER or BEFORE i put on topical solution(differin) on my pimples??i usually waits about 15-30 min before applying moisturiser.tq
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Eventually, the answer will be AFTER differin, u may apply moisturizer.

QUOTE(Jo-N @ Dec 6 2006, 07:27 PM)
i use to have pimples and break out all the time since standard 6, till when i was in my college year i started to use a france product call "GErnetic", then everything just gone...takes sometimes like few months to see the result but it works..but still have to maintain it everyday. the product it 's kinda expensive but can use for long time lar..hahhaha.That's the only product i can trust but its kinda hard to find. Actually pimples wont go forever , it will be one or two zits tat pops out once in a while due to the toxic in our body, just have to detoxific your body or just apply the immuno mask and it will be smooth and crystal clear the next morning, girls must be hardworking in order to stay preety !! hahahaa
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I think the green color facial foam is SEBAMED, is it cleansing lotion or its cleansing cream? It will work as well as CETAPHIL but one thing is that Sebamed is so expensive compared to CETAPHIL, thats the reason I recommend a cheaper solution for you all. Hey, this regimen is affordable and attainable.

Just go to GUARDIAN or WATSONS, try to open up SEBAMED bottle and smell the scent, if its the same, then its. Normally dermatologist will add portion of water in to make it more, which I think from that they manage to derive more money.

Well, SEBAMED is for problem skin. Anyway, its gentle, so its for problem skin and normal skin.
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Thanx for the info jinyee. The one i m using in in cream form. Ny defference between cream and lotion?
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Yes, there is difference. Cream is thicker while lotion is more watery. I think lotion is better for you, cos it will dry quicker.
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QUOTE(chamcham @ Dec 6 2006, 11:31 AM)
use drug like Roaccutane. Better get advice from doctor first...got side effect... wrong 'makan' can cause death.

I use this drug before...last time bought is 1 biji cost RM10. Bought a box but must get doctor's prescription

this is extreme acne....full face cover lor. Not the tiny minnie one or two pimples...
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hi again - been diligently using the recommended steps and products for 3 months now and needless to say everything has cleared up save for the odd spot or two..the scars and uneven skin tones are still present though fading and i was wondering what product that is already available on the malaysian market can i use to lessen the scars now?

my gf bought me biotherm homme anti-rides line peel for men as it was advertised as having successful results in decreasing/lightening men's acne scars..it contains natural active ingredients - silicium, moisturising agents, pure extract of thermal plankton and some agents which promote the skin's natural peeling process..was wondering whether this was any good seeing as how you recommended a prior product which promotes the skin's natural healing process..thanks jinyee - ur an ace in my book~
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hurm..
i've used too many product on my face.. Now i take 3 pills of this traditional herbs.. (JAMU)..
it's really helping.. huhu..
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QUOTE(fairlady @ Dec 12 2006, 03:36 PM)
hurm..
i've used too many product on my face.. Now i take 3 pills of this traditional herbs.. (JAMU)..
it's really helping.. huhu..
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hm....from what i know from my lecturer, a prof in HUKM( he's our very high status lecturer in medical faculty), he said that that JAMU is actually not good for health. i don't know what exactly is wrong with it, forgot liao! (something to do with cancer or dunno what ....really forgot liao..
but it's really not good for health.
maybe u can try to search some info in net.....
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QUOTE(Sharvyn @ Dec 12 2006, 07:44 PM)
hm....from what i know from my lecturer, a prof in HUKM( he's our very high status lecturer in medical faculty), he said that that JAMU is actually not good for health. i don't know what exactly is wrong with it, forgot liao! (something to do with cancer or dunno what ....really forgot liao..
but it's really not good for health.
maybe u can try to search some info in net.....
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Really..?
for generation my family take dis thing but no one have cancer or any problem.. from wat i know dis thing only helps in cleaning all d toxin in my blood.. at the same time regulate my period cycle.. b4 i take dis.. everytime i'm having my period i had a very VERY bad period pain.. never missed even once.. but now.. no more period pain.. plus.. the blood dat coming out also dun have any smell.. dis thing are same as the chinese herbs that sell in stores.. everything based on herbs.. n i dun think ginseng kills too.. all dis JAMU stuff are made from TONGKAT ALI (Eurycoma Longifolia),KACIP FATIMAH (Labisia Pumila),HEMPEDU BUMI (Andrographis Paniculata),DAUN PEGAGA (centella asiatica/hydrocotyle asiatica)..
so.. if it's not good for health.. why are goverment wants to commercial dis product (JAMU)..?

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relax.... sweat.gif it's all depends on u to decide whether u want to carry on ur JAMU or not. i'm just stating wat my doctor/ lecturer said to me. ( FYI,he's a malay prof in our neurology department of medicine faculty, he's very brilliant type, not those stupid stupid nerd nerd type de) the fact is, i don't even know what is JAMU! it's just something that he told us during his lecture and told us it's better that we don't eat it....i'm not sure it's cancerous or not...but he just stated that it's not good for us(which i already forgot what it is, all i remember is it'll cause significant side effect to our body in a long run) that's y i say it's better for u to go check it out in internet or what for ur own good. blush.gif
i myself is a medical student but i use chinese traditional medicine as well. i don't look down on those traditional medicine. i even use "bai fung wan" (a chinese med for decades and lots of ppl were/ are using....even my relatives and mum)to regulate my period. before taking that, i'll have very painful and uneasy period, (back pain, headache, stomach ache, nausea, vomiting---everything)with irregular menstrual cycle somemore. then after taking it for about two months, all these things gone and my period is right on time. i was so happy with it..... rclxms.gif thumbup.gif icon_rolleyes.gif just too bad that after half a year, singapore claimed that it has excessive toxin. only then our beloved government start to check the stuff in malaysian and claimed to have excessive toxin as well. singapore stopped all those drugs but malaysia still can sell it. doh.gif however, i don't buy it anymore.... and now, all those painful experience come back to me again. cry.gif
it's all depends on u whether u want to carry on or not, i'm sorry if i 'menyinggung perasaan' u, but i don't mean rude. hope u understand sweat.gif
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Anyhow, traditional implication might work for acne. This is justifiable. =)
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Anyhow, traditional implication might work for acne. This is justifiable. =)
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Btw, have you came across this product, Zitless before? Used to use it and it worked miracles for me but it has been discontinued about a year or so. By any chance do you know how I can get my hands on it again? Refer to link for details.

http://one2fit.com/en_2_cat1_sub21_product578.htm

Thanks!
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[quote=jinyee80,Jul 4 2006, 10:17 PM]
Recommended products
Cetaphil Cleanser and moisturiser.
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PanOxyl. It's RM14.50 at Guardian.
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Thanks to hunnylis for the photos
Recommended regimen

Morning

Cleanse -> Moisturize ( if you are frequently exposed to air-cond otherwise not necessary )
Night

Cleanse ->Benzoyl Peroxide( Neutrogena On-the-spot or PanOxyl ) -> Moisturize
* Only use products contains 2.5% of Benzoyl peroxide. Avoid 5% or 10% products such as OXY5 and OXY10 as it is too harsh for the skin.

For 1st time user, please apply BP once per two nights for the 1st week. Then, proceed to once per night in the 2nd week. This is to build tolerancy of the skin towards BP.

i hv just read www.acne.org shocking.gif but now,im kinda confused..just started 2 days ago..

moning-- cetaphil skin cleanser
evening-- cetaphil skin clenser -->pat dry-->wait 10min-->panoxyl 2.5% apply about toothpaste size-->(do i hav to use moisturiser even not slepin in aircond?)

for the 1st week,apply altenate day at nite...
2nd week,aply everyday at nite..wat about the amaunt of bp used??should i follow Dan's?or only use a bit enuff?bcoz for panoxyl,i use a bit my face get red and feel tight..

and one more thing..dont hv to apply morning like dan's regimen izzit?

thankyou if u can give some explaination... wink.gif
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QUOTE(?ndc?s?ve @ Dec 15 2006, 10:40 AM)
Hi Jinyee,

Btw, have you came across this product, Zitless before? Used to use it and it worked miracles for me but it has been discontinued about a year or so. By any chance do you know how I can get my hands on it again? Refer to link for details.

http://one2fit.com/en_2_cat1_sub21_product578.htm

Thanks!
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After I looked into their ingredient, I found that maybe the thing that make you recover from acne might be Sodium Hyaluronate and Ethanol. Other properties I did see any potential on it to deal with acne. Both of these ingredients already form 21% of the treatment. Ethanol is another name for SD alcohol, which well known in anti-bacteria.

Where to get it? Haha..can't help.

Jinyee
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guys,i've got a remedy i thought i would lik to share wif u all....i found frm a website a technique named'vinegar and lemon'

the link is here:
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php?showtopic=4885


well,the techniques is said to be useful in scar treatment...but i found it quite effective in treating acne..mayb u guys should giv it a try...u guys got nth to lose...wat u need is lemons and vinegars.

good luck



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I would not really encourage using the lemons and vinegars as it might irritate one's skin. However, some might succeed in using it, its quite subjective.

Anyhow, use with your own risk..haha..in case you are no covered under any insurance. =)
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Dear Jin Yee,

After about 3 weeks using the Cataphil and applying Panoxl 2.5, my skin is clearing but there is still some little pimples and scars. Anyhow, the pimple is under control. I would like to seek for advice how to reduce the scars or pimples spots so that my skin can be looked flawless?

Besides, appreciate if you can advice below product is safe for use.

1. Cleanser N: Deionised water, mineral oil, Propylene Glycol, Cetearly Alcohol, Beeswax, Ceteareth-6, Glyceryl Stearate & Sodium, Lauryl Sulphate, Sorbitol, Isopropyl Palmitate, Diazodinyl Urea, Allantoin, Carbomer, Methyl Paraben, Propyl Paraben. F, D & C, CS, Marine Plant Extractor

2. Cream N: Deionised water, Octyl Methoxycinnamate, Benzophanone-3, Butly Methoxybenzoylmethane, Propylene Glycol, Mineral Oil, Dimethicone, Stearic Acid, Glyceryl Stearate, PEG-100 Stearate, Titanium Dioxide, Phenoxyethanol, Mixed Paraben Esters, Carbomer, Fragrance

3. Mask N: Deionised water, Glyceryl Stearate, Collagenated Lanolim, Witch Hazel Distillate, Stearic Acid, Isopropyl Palmitate, Triethanolamine, Fruits Frangance, Diazolidnyl Urea, Methylparaben, Quatemuim-15, Propylparaben, 2-Bromo-2-Nitropropane-1, 3-Diol, Disodium EDTA,

4.Foundation A: Water, Dimethicone, Isopropyl myristate, Titanium dioxide, Propylene glycol, Glyceryl Stearate SE, stearic acid, Iron oxid alcohol, Methyl paraben, propyl paraben, fragrance

All these product is around RM200 each, I hope i can finish them.

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Dear Jinyee80,

ANy recomendation for scar(face) ?? I got this scar because I was being robbed. So, the rubber beat me up.

Is a light scar but quite apparent since my skin is fair.

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Dear jinyee,

i m currently using 4 products which are given by a pharmacist.
He asked me to clean my face 3 times per day,using 2 different cleansers.The 1st one is blue in colour and the 2nd one is a transparent liquid with tea tree smell.After tat,i gotta dap some Akne-mycin on acne..den with some cream white in colour...the Akne-mycin contains of erythromycin 0.2g and ethanol 9.25g..is it safe 2 use?bcos i m a bit worried if teh bacteria wil spread to other areas as i m using dab motion.

mom advised me not 2 change skincare but for me it does no work.i'd like 2 listen 2 ur advice n suggestions.

thanks very much..smile.gif
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Hi. JinYee.

i'm new here and i have read half of your thread only because it is too long.
But i will continue to follow up it. I have been using Cetaphil cleanser that you recommended about one month.

My skin condition is very bad and it got a lot of holes and red marks.
Currently, it still pop out a few small pimples.

Should i put toner after cleasing my face? What pimples gel should i used? Neutrogena On-the-spot or PanOxy?

How could i smoothen my face to make the holes and red marks not too visible?
I only use cetaphil and don't do other treatment or product. is it sufficient to control the acne on my face?

thanks and i 'm really appreciate your reply.

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QUOTE(nj922 @ Dec 18 2006, 02:51 PM)
Dear Jin Yee,

After about 3 weeks using the Cetaphil and applying Panoxl 2.5, my skin is clearing but there is still some little pimples and scars. Anyhow, the pimple is under control. I would like to seek for advice how to reduce the scars or pimples spots so that my skin can be looked flawless?

Besides, appreciate if you can advice below product is safe for use.

1. Cleanser N: Deionised water, mineral oil, Propylene Glycol, Cetearly Alcohol, Beeswax, Ceteareth-6, Glyceryl Stearate & Sodium, Lauryl Sulphate, Sorbitol, Isopropyl Palmitate, Diazodinyl Urea, Allantoin, Carbomer, Methyl Paraben, Propyl Paraben. F, D & C, CS, Marine Plant Extractor

2. Cream N: Deionised water, Octyl Methoxycinnamate, Benzophanone-3, Butly Methoxybenzoylmethane, Propylene Glycol, Mineral Oil, Dimethicone, Stearic Acid, Glyceryl Stearate, PEG-100 Stearate, Titanium Dioxide, Phenoxyethanol, Mixed Paraben Esters, Carbomer, Fragrance

3. Mask N: Deionised water, Glyceryl Stearate, Collagenated Lanolim, Witch Hazel Distillate, Stearic Acid, Isopropyl Palmitate, Triethanolamine, Fruits Frangance, Diazolidnyl Urea, Methylparaben, Quatemuim-15, Propylparaben, 2-Bromo-2-Nitropropane-1, 3-Diol, Disodium EDTA,

4.Foundation A: Water, Dimethicone, Isopropyl myristate, Titanium dioxide, Propylene glycol, Glyceryl Stearate SE, stearic acid, Iron oxid alcohol, Methyl paraben, propyl paraben, fragrance

All these product is around RM200 each, I hope i can finish them.
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Products contain Isopropyl Palmitate, Isopropyl myristate should not be used. They intend to clog pores.

Sodium, Lauryl Sulphate is a detergent that normal people will use to unclog the toilet bowl.

QUOTE(Irresistible @ Dec 19 2006, 09:48 AM)
Dear Jinyee80,

ANy recomendation for scar(face) ?? I got this scar because I was being robbed. So, the rubber beat me up.

Is a light scar but quite apparent since my skin is fair.
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Your skin is able to heal by itself. Since you said its light, so let your skin to repair itself. I don't really recommend by products.

QUOTE(bumpyboozz @ Dec 19 2006, 03:50 PM)
Dear jinyee,

i m currently using 4 products which are given by a pharmacist.
He asked me to clean my face 3 times per day,using 2 different cleansers.The 1st one is blue in colour and the 2nd one is a transparent liquid with tea tree smell.After tat,i gotta dap some Akne-mycin on acne..den with some cream white in colour...the Akne-mycin contains of erythromycin 0.2g and ethanol 9.25g..is it safe 2 use?bcos i m a bit worried if teh bacteria wil spread to other areas as i m using dab motion.

mom advised me not 2 change skincare but for me it does no work.i'd like 2 listen 2 ur advice n suggestions.

thanks very much..smile.gif
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To me, its a bad regimen recommended by your pharmacist. It really sucks. Because your skin doesn't has the chance to adapt to one cleanser. I think next time you should visit the dermatologist rather than pharmacist.

Well, just follow my regimen, many have been able to see the significant result. And anyway, its easy, isn't it?smile.gif

QUOTE(hopeless_ppl @ Dec 19 2006, 04:40 PM)
Hi. JinYee.

i'm new here and i have read half of your thread only because it is too long.
But i will continue to follow up it. I have been using Cetaphil cleanser that you recommended about one month.

My skin condition is very bad and it got a lot of holes and red marks.
Currently, it still pop out a few small pimples.

Should i put toner after cleasing my face? What pimples gel should i used? Neutrogena On-the-spot or PanOxy?

How could i smoothen my face to make the holes and red marks not too visible?
I only use cetaphil and don't do other treatment or product. is it sufficient to control the acne on my face?

thanks and i 'm really appreciate your reply.
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NOTS is no longer available in local market, so you left PanOxy to use. For pitted holes, you really need to go for either punch technique treatment or laser treatment. No products that could really shallow it up. If there is, then probably that are the one of the products marketing strategies.

Red marks, let your skin to heal it out. Just use Cetaphil, it will lessen the red marks by letting the skin to heal its own. Key words are treat the skin gently and patiently. And another thing, don't squeeze acne!!!


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Thanks jinyee...when shud i change the skincare?i mean,how many days shud i stop using my current skincare b4 i switch to the cetaphil?

and oso can i noe whether shud i go for beauty saloon?i hav gone 2...but i m vl worried if extraction may leave scars(it does sometimes)...

i m stil a teenager...shud i take some hormon pills 2 control the acne?
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QUOTE(bumpyboozz @ Dec 19 2006, 11:17 PM)
Thanks jinyee...when shud i change the skincare?i mean,how many days shud i stop using my current skincare b4 i switch to the cetaphil?

and oso can i noe whether shud i go for beauty saloon?i hav gone 2...but i m vl worried if extraction may leave scars(it does sometimes)...

i m stil a teenager...shud i take some hormon pills 2 control the acne?
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You can stop straight away and start using Cetaphil. Just use twice per day. Please read my previous posts regarding the usage.

I don't think you should go to beauty saloon. Just try Cetaphil regimen and use it for at least 2.5 months to see result. No point spending money in those beauty saloon that would leave you scars.

No need to take pill if your acne is mild to moderate. It happens during puberty, which is normal. Just cleanse your skin, don't squeeze, when the period goes away, you will have your nice skin as you have had before.smile.gif


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hopeless_ppl
post Dec 20 2006, 08:56 AM

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hey. thanks JinYee. U are so helpful.
thanks for your advice.
gangsterlawyer
post Dec 21 2006, 10:09 AM

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hi jinyee,

i have been diligently using the regime u have recommended for close to 3 months now and my skin does feel and look much better!

The problem now being there are some minor scars which are taking quite a long time to heal - so much so that my gf bought me a product from biotherm homme called anti-rides line peel which promotes natural healing of the skin particularly on wrinkles and acne scars. It uses silicium, moisurising agents, thermal plankton ( main 5 ingredients: aqua/water, dimethicone, alcohol enat, glycerin, octylodecanol ). Is this product safe to be used? She is also thinking of buying a home microdermabrasion kit being sold in guardian - i will post the name and the ingredients after work once i have checked out its contents. Thanks again for all ur help, jinyee~

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