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Lacus
post Dec 10 2013, 05:00 PM

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1) It's clearly indicated in the thread it's 1 to 1 exchange. Terms and conditions were not even stated there.

2) Each Original powerbank has unique serial numbers? For sure that can be recorded down for RMA purposes.

3) (won't comment further on this)

4)Regarding this, as far as i know, there's a Malaysia Distributor for Yoobao and apparently those sold in Lowyat Plaza all indicates 1 to 1 exchange. Why does your unit need to send back to China for verification?

As for Apple and Samsung, both company never indicates 1 to 1 exchange on their goods as far as i recall.

Instead of ranting, why don't just solve it? FYI TS been waiting 2 months + and there's is still no confirmation when the new unit is coming back (Only info he gets is MAYBE December from the seller).

P.S: I totally can't find any Terms and Condition stated in the thread regarding 1 to 1 exchange. If it's not 1 to 1 exchange, please change it and don't mislead consumers.

Founded something regarding warranty.

QUOTE(mirrorstore2 @ Jan 19 2013, 05:34 PM)
Hi ekestima , warranty wise as for now is first month 1 to 1 exchange . And warranty is 6+6 months warranty so total is 12 months . Every Yoobao bought by forumer will have a receipt attached with date and details , use that to claim warranty . In order for warranty , the PowerBank must in good condition physically .

And as for our local distributor , their 1 to 1 exchange is only for first 7 days while we provide until 1 month.
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QUOTE(Lacus @ Dec 10 2013, 05:00 PM)


4)Regarding this, as far as i know, there's a Malaysia Distributor for Yoobao and apparently those sold in Lowyat Plaza all indicates 1 to 1 exchange. Why does your unit need to send back to China for verification?


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Because his Yoobao products are not from Malaysia local distributor Mobile Dot Com instead he self-import from 3rd party seller in China (so called AP). Local distributor surely cannot support his warranty claim.


However, Yoobao concept store in Lowyat Plaza is the Yoobao Malaysia official shop, products are genuine and got local warranty support.



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post Dec 11 2013, 12:57 PM

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[quote=mirrorstore,Dec 10 2013, 12:57 PM]
I don't dare to reply to this thread , please don't make me laugh .

I'd said what is needed . You can check back on first thread. And I'm waiting for moderator to let me know what is your decision , and not those fool that reply without simple knowledge on how a business should work. If moderator thinks I need to give him a new unit , I will do so . Just let me know instead of letting these unknown people saying their worthless thought.
TO moderators who thinks that i need to fork out a new unit instead of wait for the replacement set , answer to my questions;




bro don mis-understand...
1 to 1 exchange means..
if u got on hand stock, u MUST exchange the faulty unit to customer. ( if no stock, then customer must wait )




1) My galaxy note charger was spoiled on the first day of purchased.
They send it to the HQ at PJ and I'd waited 3 weeks for it to return.


2) My IP5 power button is not functioning , APPLE terms is 1 to 1 exchange .
I bought it from Maxis.
But why do they have to send to MACHINE and until today which is already 2 weeks and it's still pending ?
It is 1 to 1 exchange .


1) did they mention 1 to 1 exchange? or warranty card show 1 to 1 exchange for accessories? prove it.. and u will win if u wanted them directly change new unit.

2) Maxis ? did maxis mention 1 to 1 exchange ? OR JUST APPLE STATE 1 to 1 EXCHANGE? ( BTW WHO U BOUGHT FROM? MAXIS OR APPLE? )
although device is apple, but u bought from maxis. so u expect maxis 1 to 1 exchange?
( supplier (china yoobao), u (dealer) , customer ) now is u mention 1 to 1 exchange, not your supplier,
responsibility on supplier side or on your side?

BTW DIGI/MAC CITY DIRECTLY CHANGE 1 unit
(how come digi and mac city can 1 to 1 exchange but maxis cant? who's problem? ) digi? apple? or maxis?



1) if i were to give out a new unit to every consumer who said the their powerbank is spoil because of the 1 to 1 exchange terms.
if they bought from u. of cause u need 1 to 1 exchange, customer fault? if the unit they receive is faulty unit? (blame customer?) customer din't blame u, u can pray god d...

2) how if they buy from other seller a unit , and when it is spoiled or not under warranty anymore and they come and buy another unit from me and take the old unit and exchange for a new one ?
[/B]this more funny question, don't u have warranty sticker? serial number record? don tell me warranty sticker can tear easily

3) And how if it is not under warranty like what it is written on the instruction book , self damage or in contact of liquid then it is not under warranty.
We are not allow to open the power bank or else it will forfeit the warranty

customer Noticed one of the port on the powerbank is faulty (port faulty = user damage? wat method can user ownself make port faulty?) btw y customer need make the port faulty? REASON PLEASE

u have the right if u feel the device is customer themself make spoil (user fault), did u mention to your customer u feel is user fault scare cant get claim? (if u mention early, customer will understading )



4) And the replacement set they send back to us is without box , so when we get the replacement unit how are we suppose to sell it without the box ?
bro, u send to supplier full box, but supplier din send back to u full set, thats u wit supplier problem not customer problem.
if customer send u without box, u also can directly send to customer new unit and without box, i think customer wont blame u.
( 1 more solution for this question, customer A bought yoobao spoil, u replace 1 NEW UNIT direct 1 to 1 exchange give customer, and the spoil unit u take go warranty, once it back, customer B yoobao spoil, u can take the unit that back from supplier exchange to customer. (customer will blame u, if u do like this? )
if your product YOOBAO plenty problem, then this method failed. since u trusted this product, y u so scare? u think everyday got people send u warranty?"



this wat we call after sales service ... the product how cheap also no use.

please note, customer always right.

now they discussing about XiuKeong case, don't ever bring others case come in discuss...

please answer all my question that i already answering u

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post Dec 12 2013, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(frankie138 @ Dec 11 2013, 12:57 PM)
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Erm, just to update on apple policy.

It is 1 to 1 exchange policy new for the first 7 days. (New from sealed box)
Anything pass that, it is send back to Apple or whatever reason they give you and you will be replaced by a "replacement" unit. In warranty If you read it never stats a new unit. You may call up Apple if you need further clarification.
Maybe is just cause Malaysians take things easily, but when you have dealt with Singaporean's , choices of words given by the Sales person or support team are very important.
As personally Im also doing import business, I can say that so far in fine prints or contracts, I have only seen Apple which offer 1 to 1 new unit replacement and that is also in the first 7 days only.

And lets be fair, assuming every electronic product can be 1 for 1 new unit on the spot, I can easily short circuit it or give it water damage and the shop will never know as most of them do not have the right equipment to check. It is also the resellers responsibility to let buyers know the important TnC. But 99/100 sales man in the market always leave out the important info and feed only juicy info, no ? whistling.gif

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post Dec 12 2013, 07:06 AM

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Hi ekestima , warranty wise as for now is first month 1 to 1 exchange . And warranty is 6+6 months warranty so total is 12 months . Every Yoobao bought by forumer will have a receipt attached with date and details , use that to claim warranty . In order for warranty , the PowerBank must in good condition physically .

And as for our local distributor , their 1 to 1 exchange is only for first 7 days while we provide until 1 month.



since i have stated the t&c that 1 to 1 exchange is within first month means it is correct for me to send it to china to claim for warranty . i think this should conclude the thread . thanks .


This post has been edited by mirrorstore: Dec 12 2013, 07:07 AM
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post Dec 12 2013, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(mirrorstore @ Dec 12 2013, 07:06 AM)
since i have stated the t&c that 1 to 1 exchange is within first month means it is correct for me to send it to china to claim for warranty . i think this should conclude the thread . thanks .
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1) Purchased a Powerbank YB-651 from seller on 27th September 2013 and received on 28th September 2013. Oh yes, very efficient transaction.
2) Noticed one of the port on the powerbank is faulty and immediately ask the seller how to get replacement.
3) He mentioned to me to send back to his shop for warranty claim. Yes, he stated in his thread that it is 1 TO 1 EXCHANGE with T&C applied but he did not further explain on the T&C.
4) Decided to post it back to him on 7th October and even told him to inform me if the faulty unit arrive safe

he sent the powerbank on 7th/ OCT. Mean is between 1st month for 1 to 1 exchange right ?

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post Dec 12 2013, 10:07 AM

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Hi all,

Firstly, we post this reply is not mean to spoil the seller reputation. Just want to express our point of view only. Our comment in RED.

QUOTE(mirrorstore @ Dec 6 2013, 05:33 PM)
Hey I'm sorry but your set still got no news from China. But since you waited patiently I'll fork out my new unit for you. Please pm me for your details. Cheers and say thanks to xiukeong .
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Are you trying to give double standard to your customers? TS not entitled for a new unit for you because he started this thread? His 2 months waiting time is not patient enough?.

QUOTE(mirrorstore @ Dec 6 2013, 05:46 PM)
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I'm doing a business and have do whatever I could to satisfy my customer.

I'd stated there one to one exchange. It means we will exchange a brand new unit if it's spill but there is procedure .

The margin is so little and the replacement set comes with no box so we got no choicebut to wait for the replacement St arrive.

Just imagine if we fork out new unit to ecru customer who has problem.

How can we sell the replacement set without the box.

And how if it's not under warranty as it has spilled with water or whatsoever.

So for the business to run smoothly I've to follow the procedure and you can look at my feedback. Whatever which is under my capability I'll do my best. But you can't blame me for the delay from China side.

That is all I have to say about this dispute. I have not scam or lie. Just that customer couldn't wait for the replacement set to arrive which there is nothing I could do to speed up the process.
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Are you going to tell us your supplier will on send back a powerbank to you without a box? If it's, then is your problem with your supplier. Nothing to do with the customers.

Refering to TS PM screenshot, you also stated you open NEW box and borrow to your GOOD ATTITUDE customers. Do you mind to tell us what are you going to do with those powerbank after your customer return back to you after travel? We think all of us very curious on this.


QUOTE(mirrorstore @ Dec 10 2013, 12:57 PM)
I don't dare to reply to this thread , please don't make me laugh .

I'd said what is needed . You can check back on first thread. And I'm waiting for moderator to let me know what is your decision , and not those fool that reply without simple knowledge on how a business should work. If moderator thinks I need to give him a new unit , I will do so . Just let me know instead of letting these unknown people saying their worthless thought.
TO moderators who thinks that i need to fork out a new unit instead of wait for the replacement set , answer to my questions;

1) My galaxy note charger was spoiled on the first day of purchased.
They send it to the HQ at PJ and I'd waited 3 weeks for it to return.
Did they mention 1 to 1 exchange or normal repair warranty?

2) My IP5 power button is not functioning , APPLE terms is 1 to 1 exchange .
I bought it from Maxis.
But why do they have to send to MACHINE and until today which is already 2 weeks and it's still pending ?
It is 1 to 1 exchange .
You answer your own question, is APPLE say 1 to 1, not MAXIS!

***I can provide receipt if you need it.
And then answer me this ,

1) if i were to give out a new unit to every consumer who said the their powerbank is spoil because of the 1 to 1 exchange terms.
We think you have the right to inspect the claim faulty units first before offering the new sets. Even you claims towards your supplier, you also need to do a claim form which stated what is the problem to them, right?

2) how if they buy from other seller a unit , and when it is spoiled or not under warranty anymore and they come and buy another unit from me and take the old unit and exchange for a new one ?
From your reply post HERE, you did provide receipt which you self claim have purchase details.

3) And how if it is not under warranty like what it is written on the instruction book , self damage or in contact of liquid then it is not under warranty.
We are not allow to open the power bank or else it will forfeit the warranty.
You have point for this but as a good seller, you should find solution for this.

4) And the replacement set they send back to us is without box , so when we get the replacement unit how are we suppose to sell it without the box ?
Are you going to tell us your supplier will on send back a powerbank to you without a box? If it's, then is your problem with your supplier. Nothing to do with the customers.

Unlike other business who can open the box and put the warranty sticker on the device ; we can't because lowyat has so many people selling fake power bank so they will assume open box as fake . And even if they do we will still need to check whether is the unit is still under warranty or not , which means we will still need to send to China for verification.
So the only choice left for not just me but the above two examples , samsung and apple no choice but to send it back to the HQ to examine before decide whether to give them a new unit or repair it.
And like others I did write T&C applied so whenever they ask me how to warranty works , I'll say if it is spoil we will send it to china on behalf of you and we will post it to you when the replacement unit reach our store.
And again , 1 to 1 exchange means you get one new unit instead of a refurbish one . If it is not,  then i would not have to wait for 2 weeks for my samsung charger and 3 weeks for my iphone 5 . Samsung bought from Aeon Jusco Klang and IP5 bought from Setia City Mall .

If you all claim so true that 1 to 1 exchange means on the spot then go and argue with them , right ? because they know there are precaution step to take even if you want to provide your customer with better warranty . Unlike many of you here , only speak for the consumer ; in other word zero education about business and as always , thought they are better in terms of knowledge
One of the staff write a message on my thread saying solve this dispute or you will have to close my thread .

So are you telling me that the only solution is to fork out a new unit for this user who is making a dispute against me ?

Which means you are saying that anyone has their power bank branded as yoobao if spoil and the seller put 1 to 1 exchange then the seller have to fork out a new unit for the consumer ?

If that is what you mean then I'm fine with it , i can fork out a new unit for him but please be responsible for all the coming cases because I'm not the only one who stated 1 to 1 exchange and I'm also not the only one who have to send it back to China for replacement set.
XiuKeong is going to UK this January and he couldn't wait for the replacement set , he pmed me that in his earlier message . So he is so desperate to get his replacement set and set up this dispute thread. And you all woo and waa like he deserve it .

Moderators , i need you to reconsider properly on your judgement , if your answer is yes 1 to 1 exchange means have to fork out a new unit then I will definitely fork out a new unit for mr XiuKeong before he and leave to UK . But please be wise on your judgement because if you were to ask me fork out a new unit but not other seller who has the same terms then it will be call bias and unfair.
Awaiting your ( MOD ) replies,
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You keep on asking us to answer your question; just to ask you, it's you doing business or other forumer doing business? Will you share your profit to other forumer? When problem arise, it you as the seller to find solution to solve it. Don't always push to supplier or customers.

Another point is you always say you already did what you can do, nothing else you can provide. Are you sure you give your best to your customers? Think twice first. Do you really think let your customer waited 2 months and don't have fix date to get the new set is nothing wrong?

Put yourself in your customer shoe. Already waited for 2 months yet can't get a new set!

Lastly, we just advice you to provide TS your ready stock as a replacement. Stop making funny reply here; it make yourself a joker only.

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QUOTE(mirrorstore @ Dec 12 2013, 07:06 AM)
since i have stated the t&c that 1 to 1 exchange is within first month means it is correct for me to send it to china to claim for warranty . i think this should conclude the thread . thanks .
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Look dude, it's a waste of time to drag this case. You yourself stated 1 to 1 exchange is within first month which means that you need and must exchange a new one for my faulty unit. 2 months time is not enough for you? If China side process is very slow, I believe other forumers purchase stuff from Taobao will take forever to reach their doorstep. But it did not.

1 to 1 exchange is not about sending back to whatever China supplier you bought from. That is your issue with them. Not mine. What makes you think that you can conclude this thread without giving any solution to me?

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QUOTE(mirrorstore @ Dec 12 2013, 07:06 AM)
since i have stated the t&c that 1 to 1 exchange is within first month means it is correct for me to send it to china to claim for warranty . i think this should conclude the thread . thanks .
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After so many views and replies, you still want to run away from the fact that you do not want to honour that 1 to 1 warranty as stated in the thread. 2 months is seriously long and still there's not confirmation of when the new replaced unit will arrive. Rather than having this issue dragged any further, please solved the issue latest by 15th December 2013.

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QUOTE(Lacus @ Dec 12 2013, 04:23 PM)
After so many views and replies, you still want to run away from the fact that you do not want to honour that 1 to 1 warranty as stated in the thread. 2 months is seriously long and still there's not confirmation of when the new replaced unit will arrive. Rather than having this issue dragged any further, please solved the issue latest by 15th December 2013.

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i never meant to run away from anything , and i can give him a replacement unit new in the box . But please remember that is the decision from the admin and hope you can cope with similar case in the future .

thank you .
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QUOTE(mirrorstore @ Dec 12 2013, 09:43 PM)
i never meant to run away from anything , and i can give him a replacement unit new in the box . But please remember that is the decision from the admin and hope you can cope with similar case in the future .

thank you .
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Why you want to rely on admin decision to give you direction? It's you going to share your profit to the admin or the admin suggest you to give a YB powerbank to all forumers that replies in this thread, you will just do it? If not, then get the fact right! You run the business and you should do all the responsibility.

If you think 2 months waiting is not enough, you can just make up your mind and ask TS to continue wait. Don't always push the responsibility to others. They don't own you. Is you own your customers after sales service.

Lastly, don't always dare others that you can give TS a replacement anytime. If you willing to do so, you will do it after 1 month of waiting. No need until this thread appear.
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mirrorstore As you can see, the common person's understanding of "1 to 1 exchange" is different from yours. You have gained an unfair advantage by advertising "1 to 1 exchange" without actually honoring it.

It is hard to swallow that you need to exchange the defective item with China when you have stock readily available in Malaysia.

It is with you that your customer deals with, not your supplier in China.

I will spare you the dispute tag provided that you:
1) Provide a quick resolution to this problem
2) Remove your claim of "1 to 1 exchange"
3) Clarify your warranty terms to avoid future disputes.
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Dec 12 2013, 10:29 PM)
mirrorstore As you can see, the common person's understanding of "1 to 1 exchange" is different from yours. You have gained an unfair advantage by advertising "1 to 1 exchange" without actually honoring it.

It is hard to swallow that you need to exchange the defective item with China when you have stock readily available in Malaysia.

It is with you that your customer deals with, not your supplier in China.

I will spare you the dispute tag provided that you:
1) Provide a quick resolution to this problem
2) Remove your claim of "1 to 1 exchange"
3) Clarify your warranty terms to avoid future disputes.
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tengok stock bukan main gempak...banyak!! ori pulak tu!! siap nak bayar double kalau tak ori...
tapi tak nak tukar bila customer dapat faulty unit ..... rclxub.gif

nie jenis beli barang kat china on shelf only...warranty obviously macam takde

seller just delaying until dia rasa2 dia nak beli/topup stok kat china baru pi tukar.... biasa elektronik produk china ni beli kat kilang baru dapat warranty tukar barang, itu pun max unit dia kira berape % dari volume beli....

ps: - dia orang pun bukan senang2 nak percaya/entertain masalah kecik2 kerana ramai buyer seluruh dunia cari dia...

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QUOTE(iSmartPower @ Dec 12 2013, 10:17 PM)
Why you want to rely on admin decision to give you direction? It's you going to share your profit to the admin or the admin suggest you to give a YB powerbank to all forumers that replies in this thread, you will just do it? If not, then get the fact right! You run the business and you should do all the responsibility.

If you think 2 months waiting is not enough, you can just make up your mind and ask TS to continue wait. Don't always push the responsibility to others. They don't own you. Is you own your customers after sales service.

Lastly, don't always dare others that you can give TS a replacement anytime. If you willing to do so, you will do it after 1 month of waiting. No need until this thread appear.
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you are very funny , i have never need anyone especially many of those that gave irrelevant and shallow comments just to prove that they are correct and make their self esteem goes higher in the internet life lol .

I need answer from admin as they are in control and they threaten to close the thread if it is not settle , to mean by settle is just to replace a unit for xiukeong . So leave me not much choice isn't it ?

But seriously not to lick admin's boot , but all the admin's reply is at least sensible to me than many of you idiots .

Some I don't even bother to read , work in where where 10 years la , kingston la , dell la . stupid is stupid and there is no cure for stupidity .

What you all don't notice is you are helping XiuKeong to get his replacement set just because he needs to go to UK by January .

And so i concluded that I'll delete the 1 to 1 exchange , replace a new unit to xiukeong . And never have to encounter with all those who gave their
"brilliant" knowledge .


Thank you very much.
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Dec 12 2013, 10:29 PM)
mirrorstore As you can see, the common person's understanding of "1 to 1 exchange" is different from yours. You have gained an unfair advantage by advertising "1 to 1 exchange" without actually honoring it.

It is hard to swallow that you need to exchange the defective item with China when you have stock readily available in Malaysia.

It is with you that your customer deals with, not your supplier in China.

I will spare you the dispute tag provided that you:
1) Provide a quick resolution to this problem
2) Remove your claim of "1 to 1 exchange"
3) Clarify your warranty terms to avoid future disputes.
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okay let me say it again , when the item is defect . We will need to send to china for warranty claim .

Why we don't take out the unit we have in hand and give to customer first ?

answer :

1) We do not know if the defect is under warranty or not , we need them to verify for us as if we open the powerbank then the warranty is void
2) China will send a brand new unit to us without a box , which means just powerbank alone . To avoid we take advantage of reselling a faulty powerbank and earn double profit.

Okay now when we send to china , they have two choices ;

1) repair the defective unit and give it back to customer .
2) take out a brand new unit and give it to customer but without the box.


So china opt for option 2 , which is 1 to 1 exchange . Do anyone even get it ? instead of repair , they change it with a new one . So it is call 1 to 1 exchange , but still we have to send to china and wait for the replacement set.

1 to 1 exchange , means if you buy a new powerbank and it is faulty or when it is faulty, you will get back a new powerbank in exchange . So that is call 1 to 1 exchange . BUT that doesn't cut out the procedure . The procedure is still there . you still have to freaking wait as it is not 1 to 1 exchange on the spot .

Now you all are talking like , 1 to 1 exchange means have to on the spot . And since when did i mention on my thread on the spot . By adding another line behind will make the whole thing different .

So hope many of you who is still confuse with 1 to 1 exchange , and strongly believe that 1 to 1 exchange means have to change on the spot , good luck biggrin.gif



And to answer many many many of the genius who kept repeating stok banyak tapi tak mahu bagi dulu tunggu china replacement set . I repeat for the very last time , china send the replacement set without box , okay without box .

if i got 10 units in stock , and 10 previous customer come and say spoil , i give them my 10 units in hand . then i send the 10 unit defective to china . when the defective unit come without box . who will want to buy it ? yes it is new but without box , the genuine sticker 20 digit is located on the box so who is going to buy my 10 units without the box ?

Or how if , got 10 units defective and i give them 10 units , assume people will still buy it without the box . But china side tell me , sorry got 5 units is got contacted with liquid or have dropped before or whatever possible possibilities that is stated in the warranty sheet that will void the warranty .

So at the end i'll just get back 5 units .


This is going to my last explanation and I'm very tired of explaining or enlighten geniuses in the thread .

Do you even think 1 YB-651 matters to me , what matters to me is that is not how is suppose to be . If you know me in person you should know how many free powerbank i've given to people around me . Not the money that matters , it is the procedure and business ethic that matters .

I'll send a new unit to xiu keong by today , and also milker3 as i promised will send you a yb665 too .



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QUOTE(mirrorstore @ Dec 13 2013, 09:59 AM)
you are very funny , i have never need anyone especially many of those that gave irrelevant and shallow comments just to prove that they are correct and make their self esteem goes higher in the internet life lol .

I need answer from admin as they are in control and they threaten to close the thread if it is not settle , to mean by settle is just to replace a unit for xiukeong . So leave me not much choice isn't it ?

But seriously not to lick admin's boot , but all the admin's reply is at least sensible to me than many of you idiots .

Some I don't even bother to read , work in where where 10 years la , kingston la , dell la . stupid is stupid and there is no cure for stupidity .

What you all don't notice is you are helping XiuKeong to get his replacement set just because he needs to go to UK by January .

And so i concluded that I'll delete the 1 to 1 exchange , replace a new unit to xiukeong . And never have to encounter with all those who gave their
"brilliant" knowledge .
Thank you very much.
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Threaten? wooo... you can sue them, you know?

We reply base on the fact and screenshot provided. Even he really are not going UK next month, you are not suppose to drag his claim until so long!!!

Who is funny, who is joker, who is stupid, I think most of the former can judge by their own wise.

QUOTE(mirrorstore @ Dec 13 2013, 10:16 AM)
okay let me say it again , when the item is defect . We will need to send to china for warranty claim .

Why we don't take out the unit we have in hand and give to customer first ?

answer :

1) We do not know if the defect is under warranty or not , we need them to verify for us as if we open the powerbank then the warranty is void

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Hey dude, don't slap your face again. You already send to your supplier 2 months ago, they can't tell you the faulty port is under warranty or not? And please, if they did inform you is under warranty and the delay is due to the courier, its no way to ask your customer to wait infinity.


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post Dec 13 2013, 12:13 PM

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Sony 1 to 1 exchange. No need check and see what is the problem also. Once product faulty no matter reason just exchange. This is 1 to 1 exchange.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive...mmediately.aspx

Your is not. Thats all simple. Wrong statement in your thread just remove it and hope you understand the term for future business.
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post Dec 13 2013, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(d3v073d_50uL @ Dec 6 2013, 07:42 PM)
Coming from a 'no-experience' user...from what I understand

One-to-one exchange... is EXCHANGING.. not repairing...

when a drink is bad.. u go to your kitchen, make a new one, and bring it back to the customer...
when a product is bad... u go to your store, take a new one, and bring it back to the customer...

one to one exchange is between you and your customer.. not with your supplier..
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To make it short, seems like his One to One exchange is:
1) Got bad drink, return to the waiter for return, waiter return to the kitchen for replacement, kitchen refer to drink specialist to rule out mixture error etc, specialist refer to nutritionist to check if the new recipe taste good but bad for health etc.
2) Approved.
3) Nutritionist send to specialist for taste test, specialist send to kitchen for storage, kitchen send to waiter for distribution, waiter send to customer for one to one exchange that took hell of process.
4) Customer complaint because waited too long, he only get himself drinking water because too thirsty, waiting for that particular drink.

Now that's a reminder for us all what is one to one exchange. Return your drink and get a new drink or return a drink and go through hell of process.
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post Dec 13 2013, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(mirrorstore @ Dec 13 2013, 10:16 AM)
okay let me say it again , when the item is defect . We will need to send to china for warranty claim .

Why we don't take out the unit we have in hand and give to customer first ?

answer :

1) We do not know if the defect is under warranty or not , we need them to verify for us as if we open the powerbank then the warranty is void
2) China will send a brand new unit to us without a box , which means just powerbank alone . To avoid we take advantage of reselling a faulty powerbank and earn double profit.

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1) What???????? It is already faulty (you can even easily test it using your own mobile device) and yet you say you are NOT SURE the defect is under warranty or not????

It's like saying "Your kettle you bought from us is faulty(cannot boil water) but we are not sure whether it is under warranty or not"

Do you know that sounds really stupid.

2) This is a normal procedure for most electronics after the "1 to 1 exchange" period within 7 days (most electronics you purchase anywhere in Malaysia has this and the public are aware of this EXCEPT you)

QUOTE(mirrorstore @ Dec 13 2013, 10:16 AM)
Okay now when we send to china , they have two choices ;

1) repair the defective unit and give it back to customer .
2) take out a brand new unit and give it to customer but without the box.
So china opt for option 2 , which is 1 to 1 exchange . Do anyone even get it ? instead of repair , they change it with a new one . So it is call 1 to 1 exchange , but still we have to send to china and wait for the replacement set.

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This is so normal, even as a customer, I even know about this.

The reason why manufacturers do not repair electronics most of the time is because of the high cost and it's time consuming, so it's easier and cheaper for them to just replace the defective product. It's quite a known thing just for your information...

Point 1 and point 2 is called the normal RMA process........... You are the one who don't get it.

As everyone has pointed out, 1 to 1 exchange means exchange of the defective unit with a working one on the spot (if you have stock). But if you don't have stock at the moment, of course you are not capable of providing a new unit on the spot.

I don't know where you got your idea on 1 to 1 exchange from. It's quite a widely used and acceptable policy used in almost everywhere in Malaysia especially electrical goods (or electronics), it's as though as if you never lived in Malaysia before unsure.gif

QUOTE(mirrorstore @ Dec 13 2013, 10:16 AM)
1 to 1 exchange , means if you buy a new powerbank and it is faulty or when it is faulty, you will get back a new powerbank in exchange . So that is call 1 to 1 exchange . BUT that doesn't cut out the procedure . The procedure is still there . you still have to freaking wait as it is not 1 to 1 exchange on the spot .

Now you all are talking like , 1 to 1 exchange means have to on the spot . And since when did i mention on my thread on the spot . By adding another line behind will make the whole thing different .

So hope many of you who is still confuse with 1 to 1 exchange , and strongly believe that 1 to 1 exchange means have to change on the spot , good luck biggrin.gif

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I've already replied to you in the previous page regarding the "Milo" but you have yet to reply back.

Oh by the way, you mentioned "Terms and conditions applied" but you refuse to state what it is and it is nowhere to be found in your thread.

Only when a staff comes in and reveals it, then only it is known. Plus, it's written by your dupe. Suspicious isn't it?

Enough of the rant. All we want is you to just take down that "1 to 1 exchange". Yet, you purposely use the 1 to 1 exchange term to confuse your buyers and to gain an upperhand in the sales business, don't think we are stupid because we are not.

QUOTE(mirrorstore @ Dec 13 2013, 10:16 AM)
Do you even think 1 YB-651 matters to me , what matters to me is that is not how is suppose to be . If you know me in person you should know how many free powerbank i've given to people around me . Not the money that matters , it is the procedure and business ethic that matters .

I'll send a new unit to xiu keong by today , and also milker3 as i promised will send you a yb665 too .

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Business ethics??? Like seriously?

Twisting the term "1 to 1 exchange" to your advantage, being suspicious about the "Terms and Conditions", refusing to explain what it meant until a Staff appeared and revealed them.

Just take down the bloody "1 to 1 exchange" term from your thread and I guarantee you there won't be trouble anymore.

And lastly, PLEASE DON'T THINK BUYERS ARE STUPID BECAUSE WE ARE NOT.

This post has been edited by -kytz-: Dec 13 2013, 01:07 PM
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post Dec 13 2013, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Dec 13 2013, 01:04 PM)
1) What???????? It is already faulty (you can even easily test it using your own mobile device) and yet you say you are NOT SURE the defect is under warranty or not????

It's like saying "Your kettle you bought from us is faulty(cannot boil water) but we are not sure whether it is under warranty or not"

Do you know that sounds really stupid.

2) This is a normal procedure for most electronics after the "1 to 1 exchange" period within 7 days (most electronics you purchase anywhere in Malaysia has this and the public are aware of this EXCEPT you)
This is so normal, even as a customer, I even know about this.

The reason why manufacturers do not repair electronics most of the time is because of the high cost and it's time consuming, so it's easier and cheaper for them to just replace the defective product. It's quite a known thing just for your information...

Point 1 and point 2 is called the normal RMA process........... You are the one who don't get it.

As everyone has pointed out, 1 to 1 exchange means exchange of the defective unit with a working one on the spot (if you have stock). But if you don't have stock at the moment, of course you are not capable of providing a new unit on the spot.

I don't know where you got your idea on 1 to 1 exchange from. It's quite a widely used and acceptable policy used in almost everywhere in Malaysia especially electrical goods (or electronics), it's as though as if you never lived in Malaysia before unsure.gif
I've already replied to you in the previous page regarding the "Milo" but you have yet to reply back.

Oh by the way, you mentioned "Terms and conditions applied" but you refuse to state what it is and it is nowhere to be found in your thread.

Only when a staff comes in and reveals it, then only it is known. Plus, it's written by your dupe. Suspicious isn't it?

Enough of the rant. All we want is you to just take down that "1 to 1 exchange". Yet, you purposely use the 1 to 1 exchange term to confuse your buyers and to gain an upperhand in the sales business, don't think we are stupid because we are not.
Business ethics??? Like seriously?

Twisting the term "1 to 1 exchange" to your advantage, being suspicious about the "Terms and Conditions", refusing to explain what it meant until a Staff appeared and revealed them.

Just take down the bloody "1 to 1 exchange" term from your thread and I guarantee you there won't be trouble anymore.

And lastly, PLEASE DON'T THINK BUYERS ARE STUPID BECAUSE WE ARE NOT.
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Who are you btw ?

Sorry but I don't get it that why must I reply to you ?

Why must I reply to a too free nothing to do lyn user ? And what makes you think im free enough to reply to you .

And who cares about if a stupid person is stupid or not.

My advice to you. Myob and get a life. Your opinion. Errmmm not very intelligent I must say.

Buyers are but stupid true.... But are you my buyer ? Just don't get it why don't take your free time and do something meaningful instead of showing the world that you are stupid , sorry you are a buyer and you are not stupid I take back my words.

Please mod close this topic as I already settle everything as you want. Stop making me read all this funny replies.

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