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post Dec 20 2024, 08:12 AM

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Thinking to tint my camry, but i want a rfid and smart tag friendly tint, any brand should i go for?
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post Dec 20 2024, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Dec 20 2024, 08:12 AM)
Thinking to tint my camry, but i want a rfid and smart tag friendly tint, any brand should i go for?
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Each brand has several series of tint. To avoid interference with RFID, avoid use metallic dust particle type which is used in one series of V-Cool as I remembered it. Other brands also has metallic dust based tint. Best is ceramic based. The one use dye based is cheap but it easily become discolored and not last that long. Metal interfere with RF signal.

Smart Tag is based on light in IR region. Many tint claims high IR rejection rate but number can be deceiving. Since IR has very wire frequency range, many does not specify at what frequency it is measured. They probably tested it in wide range but pick the number with highest rejection. I could not remember the IR wavelength of the Smart Tag but this is why Smart Tag still operate properly even though the tint has very high IR rejection number.

Many tints do affect Smart Tag to some degree when newly installed. That is why cars get stuck at toll laugh.gif . However any brand cheap or expensive one will degrade like a good one after 2 years will have no problem with Smart Tag. This is the reason why even good and expensive tint feel like not blocking much of heat from sun after 2~3 years biggrin.gif

I have used VKool and also Haverkamp (now market under KRÖPELIN brand?). In beginning you have to drive quite slowly to get Smart Tag detection. So, I just lower the window glass and shove out the Smart Tag. After certain time you will find that you will not longer need to do that.

The long warranty I believe never about the ability to block but on the appearance of the tint like no bubbling, wavery vision, etc. So, the question would be whether you want to used cheaper tint that you can change every year for best performance or use the tint that cost thousands so that you do not need to go for re-tint ever one or two years laugh.gif
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post Dec 20 2024, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Dec 20 2024, 08:54 AM)
Each brand has several series of tint. To avoid interference with RFID, avoid use metallic dust particle type which is used in one series of V-Cool as I remembered it. Other brands also has metallic dust based tint. Best is ceramic based. The one use dye based is cheap but it easily become discolored and not last that long. Metal interfere with RF signal.

Smart Tag is based on light in IR region. Many tint claims high IR rejection rate but number can be deceiving. Since IR has very wire frequency range, many does not specify at what frequency it is measured. They probably tested it in wide range but pick the number with highest rejection. I could not remember the IR wavelength of the Smart Tag but this is why Smart Tag still operate properly even though the tint has very high IR rejection number.

Many tints do affect Smart Tag to some degree when newly installed. That is why cars get stuck at toll  laugh.gif .  However any brand cheap or expensive one will degrade like a good one after 2 years will have no problem with Smart Tag. This is the reason why even good and expensive tint feel like not blocking much of heat from sun after 2~3 years  biggrin.gif

I have used VKool and also Haverkamp (now market under KRÖPELIN brand?). In beginning you have to drive quite slowly to get Smart Tag detection. So, I just lower the window glass and shove out the Smart Tag. After certain time you will find that you will not longer need to do that.

The long warranty I believe never about the ability to block but on the appearance of the tint like no bubbling, wavery vision, etc. So, the question would be whether you want to used cheaper tint that you can change every year for best performance or use the tint that cost thousands so that you do not need to go for re-tint ever one or two years  laugh.gif
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post Dec 20 2024, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Dec 20 2024, 08:54 AM)
Each brand has several series of tint. To avoid interference with RFID, avoid use metallic dust particle type which is used in one series of V-Cool as I remembered it. Other brands also has metallic dust based tint. Best is ceramic based. The one use dye based is cheap but it easily become discolored and not last that long. Metal interfere with RF signal.

Smart Tag is based on light in IR region. Many tint claims high IR rejection rate but number can be deceiving. Since IR has very wire frequency range, many does not specify at what frequency it is measured. They probably tested it in wide range but pick the number with highest rejection. I could not remember the IR wavelength of the Smart Tag but this is why Smart Tag still operate properly even though the tint has very high IR rejection number.

Many tints do affect Smart Tag to some degree when newly installed. That is why cars get stuck at toll  laugh.gif .  However any brand cheap or expensive one will degrade like a good one after 2 years will have no problem with Smart Tag. This is the reason why even good and expensive tint feel like not blocking much of heat from sun after 2~3 years  biggrin.gif

I have used VKool and also Haverkamp (now market under KRÖPELIN brand?). In beginning you have to drive quite slowly to get Smart Tag detection. So, I just lower the window glass and shove out the Smart Tag. After certain time you will find that you will not longer need to do that.

The long warranty I believe never about the ability to block but on the appearance of the tint like no bubbling, wavery vision, etc. So, the question would be whether you want to used cheaper tint that you can change every year for best performance or use the tint that cost thousands so that you do not need to go for re-tint ever one or two years  laugh.gif
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Ur honest review for Haverkamp tint, good as established brand? They quoted me about top tier branded tint price for x70 back then, 4 years ago, just because lack of user review holding my decision. In short, choose the local at affordable price.

If it good, kinda tempted to replace my old car at 10 years old life.
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post Dec 20 2024, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Dec 20 2024, 12:34 PM)
Ur honest review for Haverkamp tint, good as established brand? They quoted me about top tier branded tint price for x70 back then, 4 years ago, just because lack of user review holding my decision. In short, choose the local at affordable price.

If it good, kinda tempted to replace my old car at 10 years old life.
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I think it is good. Mine after 5 years I could see like watery on windshield (wavery). So, the shop replaced it for free saying that it was from bad batch, but I think it is more on installation skill. Well, if you go to unauthorized shop they will give you all kind of excuse not to replace because they can never get refund from distributor.

Just like I mentioned, it does not feel like blocking much after several years, but hard to notice when since you gradually adapt to to situation. I should go back to the shop to measure the TSER, etc. laugh.gif

I believe it is manufactured in Germany as claimed (no prove though laugh.gif ). Many branded one manufactured in 3rd countries. It was expensive when it was introduced many years ago. I could not remember but it was around 4k sweat.gif Now the price is more reasonable. Well, price is market driven, not the cost price, but when need to generate more sales the price has to go down. smile.gif
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Dec 20 2024, 08:12 AM)
Thinking to tint my camry, but i want a rfid and smart tag friendly tint, any brand should i go for?
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I'm using 3M Crystalline series. It doesn't affect RFID (pasted outside of windscreen), it doesn't affect condo access card, but it affects Smart Tag.

I'll still choose 3M if I tint my next car. It's been 6 years and the tint still performs like Day 1 (but my car is parked in sheltered car park at home and at work).
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 20 2024, 09:16 PM)
I'm using 3M Crystalline series. It doesn't affect RFID (pasted outside of windscreen), it doesn't affect condo access card, but it affects Smart Tag.

I'll still choose 3M if I tint my next car. It's been 6 years and the tint still performs like Day 1 (but my car is parked in sheltered car park at home and at work).
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Noted, I'm smart tag user
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post Dec 20 2024, 10:05 PM

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Anyone tried hamel? The photochromic ones look interesting. Only need for front windscreen since I got it replaced.
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post Dec 26 2024, 11:14 AM

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I think only metallic based tints affect RFID and all my cars are using metallic based tint coz IMO, high quality metallic based tints reflect heat better than ceramic that absorb them. I always stick RFID on my left headlamp of all my cars, so my tints don't matter to the RFID.

For smart tag friendly metallic based tint, I would recommend VKool Solitaire series (previously used, ultra expensive now) or homegrown Irispro Diamond and DX series (that I installed currently for all my cars). Do note that high quality metallic based tints are usually significantly more expensive than ceramic due to the high quality metal sputter contents and multiple sputter layering involved. The effectiveness of heat resistance (at least for 55 front, 50 side and 30 side/rear VLT) are superb for Irispro that my cars under hot sun are significantly less hot than all my sisters cars with various tints. Do note that less hot is still hot, if left under super hot sun for hours no matter what tints you used.

3M Crystalline are mostly not smart tag friendly tho some such as Harrier (a poster used that), etc can still work. So its more like lottery for me if you can pass smart tag, no garantee. At least for Honda CRV and City that I know if, it can't get thru. Beside smart tags issue, the tints have good reputation on heat resistance. There are many fakes out there tho, so be sure to get from trusted source if you go for this.

Ceramic based Raytech highest range R or RX series is not smart tag friendly tho the 2nd highest Q or QX range is reported as smart tag friendly.

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QUOTE(dog999 @ Dec 14 2024, 12:06 PM)
Sure, already pmed. Thanks for enquiry. biggrin.gif
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Hi there, can drop me a PM as well. interested.
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post Jan 3 2025, 09:13 PM

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Just curious anyone tried those dual tone tint?

Like claimed high rejection etc and looks darker from the outside one. But from inside looks clear

Not that im gona do it, but curious if anyone tried it
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QUOTE(vimaa94 @ Jan 3 2025, 07:30 PM)
Hi there, can drop me a PM as well. interested.
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Sure bro.thanks for enquiry smile.gif

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post Jan 5 2025, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Dec 7 2020, 12:52 PM)
I used that Totalgard tint at my wife car, a local car, x70. Reason bought is due to spec offered, IRR, TSER and proven on meter not just saying only. And most due to price offered at rm1k and warranty covered for degradation if happen.

For 3 months using it, it performs quite well. Not feel hot at all during noon time.

But I reserved my review to check if it performs well on 2nd & 3rd year of usage.
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4 years liao, how is totalgard?

Looking for budget < RM1k tint for my weekend car.
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post Jan 5 2025, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Jan 5 2025, 12:47 AM)
4 years liao, how is totalgard?

Looking for budget < RM1k tint for my weekend car.
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Still with it. No quality issues like the tint tear off or faded. Best bang for money for me considering the spec, IRR, TSER
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 5 2025, 08:39 AM)
Still with it. No quality issues like the tint tear off or faded. Best bang for money for me considering the spec, IRR, TSER
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Agreed. Value for money
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Anyone have any experience or comment on this brand?

Magnuspro ceramic tint

Coverage looks good, thinking of getting it for Rm 2600 with sunroof.
Thanks!
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QUOTE(mnoranzn @ Jan 7 2025, 03:39 AM)
Anyone have any experience or comment on this brand?

Magnuspro ceramic tint

Coverage looks good, thinking of getting it for Rm 2600 with sunroof.
Thanks!
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I use before previously, i can say mid range heat rejection only but the price paying is higher end that u can get better premium brand like 3M in this price range.
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post Jan 8 2025, 02:32 PM

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If 3m crystalline tinted open a hole at this dot dot area will the smart tag can detect?

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QUOTE(jianwei87 @ Jan 8 2025, 02:32 PM)
If 3m crystalline tinted open a hole at this dot dot area will the smart tag can detect?

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Yes open hole smart tag can detect( not visible) You may choose to open a square hole or not to tint the dotted area . Also, RFID can be detect install inside the car windscreen for 3M Crystalline . smile.gif
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Rhinepro tint and ppf good or not cause they just opened flagship store at my place

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