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post Oct 8 2023, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(Bombgen @ Oct 6 2023, 09:55 PM)
Hi installed full 3m crystalline tint on my car today, however i realized that my back window using crystalline 20 got a yellowish tone if look from inside, is this normal? or need to wait till cure?
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3M Crystalline 20 more towards brownish like sample below
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post Oct 8 2023, 09:07 PM

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guys my car was sent to puspakom for checking during transfer of ownership and hadapan is 60% ketelusan cahaya, the result was lulus that time but the recent update at 70% means i have to change it?
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post Oct 9 2023, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(coconutxyz @ Oct 8 2023, 09:07 PM)
guys my car was sent to puspakom for checking during transfer of ownership and hadapan is 60% ketelusan cahaya, the result was lulus that time but the recent update at 70% means i have to change it?
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70% not recent ler......It has been there since the beginning. It is only the rear side windows, rear windscreen that changed..
So your hadapan is always 70% only can lulus...how come u so lucky or how much u pay...hint hint!!!!

I think Puspakom validity is 3 months. As long as you transfer within the validity date, then no issue liao coz you already have the lulus cert.

I also want...then no need to tear up my 2 years old Vkool Elite tint if I want to transfer my car to my daughter.

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post Oct 9 2023, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Oct 9 2023, 04:09 PM)
70% not recent ler......It has been there since the beginning. It is only the rear side windows, rear windscreen that changed..
So your hadapan is always 70% only can lulus...how come u so lucky or how much u pay...hint hint!!!!

I think Puspakom validity is 3 months. As long as you transfer within the validity date, then no issue liao coz you already have the lulus cert.

I also want...then no need to tear up my 2 years old Vkool Elite tint if I want to transfer my car to my daughter.
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i also dumbfounded when received the result, around 2020 is the transfer
Bombgen
post Oct 10 2023, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(dog999 @ Oct 8 2023, 01:54 AM)
3M Crystalline 20 more towards brownish like sample below
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Ah its true like this. And one more thing, is it normal that it interfere with rfid on the front windshield? I got no problem driving through rfid lane before installing CR70 at the windshield, but after i seems to not detect..wondering if its because of the tint?
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:09 AM

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is there any of you guys have actually face a JPJ roadblock where they actually measure you window's tint using device or what?

Or they just measure it using their gaze only?
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:13 AM

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yeah . i was about to ask the same question.
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Bombgen @ Oct 10 2023, 10:46 AM)
Ah its true like this. And one more thing, is it normal that it interfere with rfid on the front windshield? I got no problem driving through rfid lane before installing CR70 at the windshield, but after i seems to not detect..wondering if its because of the tint?
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Why your RFID is place inside the windscreen? Should not it be place outside?

And yes, 3M Crystalline will likely interfere with both smart tag and RFID.
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post Oct 10 2023, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Oct 10 2023, 11:15 AM)
Why your RFID is place inside the windscreen? Should not it be place outside?

And yes, 3M Crystalline will likely interfere with both smart tag and RFID.
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No its on the outside..wondering if it can interfere in any way..
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post Oct 10 2023, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Bombgen @ Oct 10 2023, 12:32 PM)
No its on the outside..wondering if it can interfere in any way..
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i have CR70 and installed the RFID inside the windscreen (means rfid is behind the tint, in fact it is behind the black sunshade) and can pass through all rfid lanes with no issue.
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post Oct 10 2023, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Bombgen @ Oct 10 2023, 10:46 AM)
Ah its true like this. And one more thing, is it normal that it interfere with rfid on the front windshield? I got no problem driving through rfid lane before installing CR70 at the windshield, but after i seems to not detect..wondering if its because of the tint?
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So far Crystalline can use rfid no issue. Rfid still works install behind roadtax using crystalline no issue(inside car). But need drive slowly.

Rfid Windscreen exterior and headlamp no issues at all.
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post Oct 10 2023, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(rollinginsodeep @ Oct 10 2023, 11:09 AM)
is there any of you guys have actually face a JPJ roadblock where they actually measure you window's tint using device or what?

Or they just measure it using their gaze only?
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So far I have not encountered any jpj roadblock (touch wood) although in the news it was reported since 2019 there were many offenders who violated the tint regulations were caught and fined.

The most recent announcement of RM2k fine or jail sounds serious and if I were caught at the road block, the tint on my car would fail the VLT test although I picked the lightest one available. As a matter of fact when I was doing the tint on my vehicle recently, I was surprised the guys before me picked VLT 32% for the front windscreen and 17% VLT for front side.


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post Oct 11 2023, 11:35 AM

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i think ,normal car glass without tint already not 100% vlt

so even follow jpj spec tint, final vlt will be below the spec. does jpj have a "range" of vlt?
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post Oct 11 2023, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Oct 11 2023, 11:35 AM)
i think ,normal car glass without tint already not 100% vlt
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Yes. that is one of the reasons it is risky to pick a tint with VLT that is very close to the permissible values allowed by JPJ. For instance, if permissible VLT for front and front side are 70% and 50% respectively, even if you pick a tint which is very close to the values, say VLT 72% or 52% for instance, most likely during test it will fail. From what I was told, it is safe to pick a tint which is about 10% higher just to be sure since the original bare windscreen is not 100% VLT. Say for front windscreen, picking a tint of VLT 80% instead of 70% would be safe, and for front side, picking a tint of VLT 60% instead of 50% would be safe.

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post Oct 12 2023, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Oct 11 2023, 01:12 PM)
Yes. that is one of the reasons it is risky to pick a tint with VLT that is very close to the permissible values allowed by JPJ. For instance, if permissible VLT for front and front side are 70% and 50% respectively, even if you pick a tint which is very close to the values, say VLT 72% or 52% for instance, most likely during test it will fail. From what I was told, it is safe to pick a tint which is about 10% higher just to be sure since the original bare windscreen is not 100% VLT. Say for front windscreen, picking a tint of VLT 80% instead of 70% would be safe, and for front side, picking a tint of VLT 60% instead of 50% would be safe.
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i see, the issue here would be many shop's highest vlt tint is 70%, therefore, need to go with no windshield tint to be safe.
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post Oct 12 2023, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Oct 12 2023, 09:14 AM)
i see, the issue here would be many shop's highest vlt tint is 70%, therefore, need to go with no windshield tint to be safe.
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No windshield hot. Dashboard can become poor condition at 3rd year onward if no tint and daily park outside. Take VLT follow regulations, based on JPJ roadblock they just random, visual choose for tint that is darker etc. Unless u do Puspakom name change, sure they will check VLT via devices, so take the tint + windscreen vlt reading
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post Oct 12 2023, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Oct 11 2023, 12:35 PM)
i think ,normal car glass without tint already not 100% vlt

so even follow jpj spec tint, final vlt will be below the spec. does jpj have a "range" of vlt?
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its always the same VLT. 70% front, 50% front side and any number for the rest of the windows.

the problem is, most people relate VLT for tint film only, not the window darkness (glass + tint film).

its the interpretation.
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post Oct 12 2023, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Oct 12 2023, 10:14 AM)
i see, the issue here would be many shop's highest vlt tint is 70%, therefore, need to go with no windshield tint to be safe.
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coz most high vlt tints are less effective in blocking heat (low IRR & TSER). 70% vlt film is the min to be effective.

3m and active-e tint do provide > 80% vlt film (which fws will end up getting > 70% vlt) but it is as good as no tint haha
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post Oct 12 2023, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 12 2023, 09:45 AM)
No windshield hot. Dashboard can become poor condition at 3rd year onward if no tint and daily park outside. Take VLT follow regulations, based on JPJ roadblock they just random, visual choose for tint that is darker etc. Unless u do Puspakom name change, sure they will check VLT via devices, so take the tint + windscreen vlt reading
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agree with the dashboard getting wrecked under sun daily.

with the news on stricter inspection, probably they will start using measuring devices at roadblocks (maybe not all), thus it becomes a game of roulette that they won't choose your car to test with the actual device.

at roadblocks, gotta pray hard not to kena "lottery" .



QUOTE(overfloe @ Oct 12 2023, 09:50 AM)
its always the same VLT. 70% front, 50% front side and any number for the rest of the windows.

the problem is, most people relate VLT for tint film only, not the window darkness (glass + tint film).

its the interpretation.
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agree with this, all this while the interpretation is for film only.

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that's why, thinking of going no tint for windshield and 60% or 70% sides, to be safe, since modern car glass itself vlt is not 100% (maybe 90% or 80% vlt already) sad.gif


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post Oct 12 2023, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Oct 12 2023, 09:14 AM)
i see, the issue here would be many shop's highest vlt tint is 70%, therefore, need to go with no windshield tint to be safe.
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Actually there is but not all brands. Just a random check, Llumar has tints with high VLT, Airblue AIR80 with VLT 78%, Airblue AIR90 with VLT 86%. The problem is most people are less inclined to pick these tints as the heat rejection is minimal. As we all know the purpose of the tint is to reject heat as much as possible to keep the car cool, so by going with a high VLT tint which makes little difference, most people might be inclined to pick one which does not meet JPJ's requirement.

The tint on my front and side front windscreens used to be VLT 59% and 40%, but now it's replaced with VLT 63% and 53%. The front windscreen is still below 70% so it will fail the test if there's an operasi. I guess most people don't care by going way below the permitted values. However, even for abiding drivers who picked a tint with VLT 70% and 50% for front and front side, chances are high the tint will fail the VLT test too as mentioned earlier.

 

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