QUOTE(acefreakz @ Feb 6 2014, 10:04 PM)
hmm i may visit them this sat, see how lol...Car Care and Detailing [V3], LYN Automotive Detailing Thread
Car Care and Detailing [V3], LYN Automotive Detailing Thread
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last time i maintain my car using permanon platinum coating + brillianshine car shampoo, after CNY now trying turtle wax carnauba wax + meguairs nxt gen shampoo.
both glossy / shine effect about the same to me (white car), but durability dunno yet... any sifu can recommend wax/selant/coating that lasts long with weekly car wash? lazy to do detailing eh... |
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Feb 6 2014, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Feb 6 2014, 05:11 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Spray topper, example of them are like Meguiars Ultimate Quick Wax, Optimum Car Wax, Mothers FX Spray Wax, TurtleWax Wax-It-Wet, 3M Quick Spray Wax, Duraglos Aquawax, Autoglym Aqua Wax, Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer...just to name a few (that I've used and tried). The ones I mentioned are all from the more established and reliable brands and available in Malaysia. Google them and learn what they are and what they do. Personally, for a black car, I would recommend Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer if you're looking for durability or Meguiars Ultimate Quick Wax if you're looking for the look. If for ease of application with minimum risk of cloudy patches it's the DG Aquawax. Pair the spray waxes with a good regime and regular washing, you might not need to wax your car for months. Try one of them and...errr...*ehem* the Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer is on sale at Sonax HQ, provided that it hasn't being 'scooped' by the kakis here already...check out their fb page.... So, is it safe to say that this "spray topper" is an additional step people used to enhance further the appearance of their car? I intend to get the SGCB Coating Wax RM69 because the price is very very competitive and it was the same kind the shop used to finished off my 4 layer polish so i am comfortable with it because i have seen its outcome but it seems that the phone calls to the SGCB HQ hotline went unanswered for 3 days straight so i am looking at alternatives. Any suggestions to a specific product which carries the same effect of the SGCB Coating Wax? This post has been edited by shaniandras2787: Feb 7 2014, 08:47 AM |
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Feb 7 2014, 09:50 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Yes. The Sonax BSD is for application after wax or after wash on top of existing wax/sealant, not a substitute for one. It can be use as such but the protection wouldn't be as good as a proper one...still good but just not as good. Not just an additional step to enhance the look, these spray waxes are also meant for MAINTENANCE. Using it will stretch the durability of the underlaying wax/sealant so you don't have to re-apply them frequently. Don't know about SGCB's products as haven't tried them before. But so far most spray waxes are quite compatible with other waxes/sealants from different brands. I have a few spray waxes and waxes/sealants and so far I haven't had any major issues in term of compatibility. |
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Feb 7 2014, 10:03 AM
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Just want to add another wax/sealant topper to the mix, Osren Surface Conditioner.
A litre of product makes four litres as it is a concentrate. A ready to use spray bottle version should be available too. Regarding the spray bottles from Osren, I have been advised not to use acid based cleaners in it because it will kill the spray pump |
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Feb 7 2014, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(MEngineer @ Feb 7 2014, 10:14 AM) Oh okay, rear glass. My bad. If that's the case, get a glass polish and sand it using 3M microfine sanding sponge/glass cutting pad(something like this -> http://www.autogeek.net/glass-polishing-pad-5inch.html)Found one seller selling glass polish powder in Automotive Garage. https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...41&hl=watermark OSREN has it too. This post has been edited by windskill: Feb 7 2014, 10:20 AM |
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Feb 7 2014, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(windskill @ Feb 7 2014, 10:19 AM) Oh okay, rear glass. My bad. If that's the case, get a glass polish and sand it using 3M microfine sanding sponge/glass cutting pad(something like this -> http://www.autogeek.net/glass-polishing-pad-5inch.html) For me Osren worth for money..Found one seller selling glass polish powder in Automotive Garage. https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...41&hl=watermark OSREN has it too. |
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Feb 7 2014, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Feb 7 2014, 09:50 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Yes. The Sonax BSD is for application after wax or after wash on top of existing wax/sealant, not a substitute for one. It can be use as such but the protection wouldn't be as good as a proper one...still good but just not as good. Not just an additional step to enhance the look, these spray waxes are also meant for MAINTENANCE. Using it will stretch the durability of the underlaying wax/sealant so you don't have to re-apply them frequently. Don't know about SGCB's products as haven't tried them before. But so far most spray waxes are quite compatible with other waxes/sealants from different brands. I have a few spray waxes and waxes/sealants and so far I haven't had any major issues in term of compatibility. So to summarize, wax protects the paint job, and the "spray topper" protects the wax so that the wax does not wears off prematurely? I also understand that the "spray topper" also provides water beading properties thus sharing almost the same characteristics as wax. I used water beading to determine if my car needs a proper waxing so, if i apply the "spray topper" weekly after my car wash then technically speaking, my car will have the water beading properties therefore i will never know if my car's wax has wear off? Sorry to have asked so many questions :T__T: |
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Feb 7 2014, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Feb 7 2014, 08:46 AM) The Brilliant Shine Detailer looks promising. Do correct me if i am wrong. This "spray topper" is something in which you apply after you have applied the wax and cannot be in any manner whatsoever be used as a substitute to an actual wax application, yes? From the description, it looks like a syntactic sealant, no canuaba was mention. I don't understand the last sentence of "suitable for imported car, luxury paint". So, is it safe to say that this "spray topper" is an additional step people used to enhance further the appearance of their car? I intend to get the SGCB Coating Wax RM69 because the price is very very competitive and it was the same kind the shop used to finished off my 4 layer polish so i am comfortable with it because i have seen its outcome but it seems that the phone calls to the SGCB HQ hotline went unanswered for 3 days straight so i am looking at alternatives. Any suggestions to a specific product which carries the same effect of the SGCB Coating Wax? I haven't use any SGCB product before, but if it is just sealant than you can look at Meguiar’s #21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0, Collinitr 476. I'm using 476 with aqua wax or ocwax as topper/booster/spray wax. You can omit the topper if you think is too much work. |
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Feb 7 2014, 10:50 AM) FWAH! there are just too many things to take in and digest The absence of water beading to naked eyes is not a necessary implication that the wax is no longer exist on the paint surface. It is however a sign that the wax has either getting thinner, deteriorated or contaminated by foreign substances (such as dirt) on its surface due to common wear over time. So to summarize, wax protects the paint job, and the "spray topper" protects the wax so that the wax does not wears off prematurely? I also understand that the "spray topper" also provides water beading properties thus sharing almost the same characteristics as wax. I used water beading to determine if my car needs a proper waxing so, if i apply the "spray topper" weekly after my car wash then technically speaking, my car will have the water beading properties therefore i will never know if my car's wax has wear off? Sorry to have asked so many questions :T__T: Meguiar's recommends performing "Squeak Test" to test presence of wax on the paint surface. Squeak Test You do not necessary believe in Meguiar's method though. Do a comparison feeling by yourself. Usually one will not wax the interior paint surface, like the paint surface around door. Touch this surface, rub it a bit, you will hear a squeak sound, indication of 100% clean surface, just like the sound in dish detergent commercial in tv, where the housewife move the finger from tip to tip on the clean dish and the recognizable "clean" sound produced. Same goes to paint surface. If it is 100% clean (no wax), you hear this sound as well easily. If you do not hear this sound after you wash your car, chances are your car still has the wax on this particular area. But it makes no harm to wax again. Every one here is overkill LOL. |
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Feb 7 2014, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Feb 7 2014, 11:10 AM) The absence of water beading to naked eyes is not a necessary implication that the wax is no longer exist on the paint surface. It is however a sign that the wax has either getting thinner, deteriorated or contaminated by foreign substances (such as dirt) on its surface due to common wear over time. Lol, I agree with your last statement Meguiar's recommends performing "Squeak Test" to test presence of wax on the paint surface. Squeak Test You do not necessary believe in Meguiar's method though. Do a comparison feeling by yourself. Usually one will not wax the interior paint surface, like the paint surface around door. Touch this surface, rub it a bit, you will hear a squeak sound, indication of 100% clean surface, just like the sound in dish detergent commercial in tv, where the housewife move the finger from tip to tip on the clean dish and the recognizable "clean" sound produced. Same goes to paint surface. If it is 100% clean (no wax), you hear this sound as well easily. If you do not hear this sound after you wash your car, chances are your car still has the wax on this particular area. But it makes no harm to wax again. Every one here is overkill LOL. And I am one of them too haha. |
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QUOTE(kww @ Feb 7 2014, 11:10 AM) From the description, it looks like a syntactic sealant, no canuaba was mention. I don't understand the last sentence of "suitable for imported car, luxury paint". OH! So it's a sealant then? I know we can substitute sealant as wax because both of them actually does pretty much the same thing. I've seen my detailer applied the SGCB Coating Wax (paste form). Few seconds after application, a white layer appears and he just wipes it off with a microfiber cloth. It seemed easy i intend to try it myself from now on otherwise, they are going to charge me at least RM100.00 for one session (car wash, polish (if required) and then the sealant).I haven't use any SGCB product before, but if it is just sealant than you can look at Meguiar’s #21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0, Collinitr 476. I'm using 476 with aqua wax or ocwax as topper/booster/spray wax. You can omit the topper if you think is too much work. This thing retails at RM69 only and i am sure i can apply it for more than one time I'll most probably omit the topper because i am not familiar with it T_T The Meguiar's #21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 seemed liquid in form. Do they have anything similar but in paste form or is liquid form superior to that of a paste form? This post has been edited by shaniandras2787: Feb 7 2014, 11:22 AM |
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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Feb 7 2014, 11:21 AM) OH! So it's a sealant then? I know we can substitute sealant as wax because both of them actually does pretty much the same thing. I've seen my detailer applied the SGCB Coating Wax (paste form). Few seconds after application, a white layer appears and he just wipes it off with a microfiber cloth. It seemed easy i intend to try it myself from now on otherwise, they are going to charge me at least RM100.00 for one session (car wash, polish (if required) and then the sealant). (Out of topic) I think the effect of SGCB coating wax looks appealing to me. Just not sure about its durability.This thing retails at RM69 only and i am sure i can apply it for more than one time I'll most probably omit the topper because i am not familiar with it T_T The Meguiar's #21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 seemed liquid in form. Do they have anything similar but in paste form or is liquid form superior to that of a paste form? Haha, actually it's not that complicated. Just a spray wax. Provide a quicker way to wax only. Also, to top-up wax on the current paint surface. |
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QUOTE(windskill @ Feb 7 2014, 11:26 AM) (Out of topic) I think the effect of SGCB coating wax looks appealing to me. Just not sure about its durability. Yeah, the effect is appealing in comparison with its price. I think i saw someone made a post here that the contents of the SGCB Coating Wax is "curiously" similar to that of Meguiar and with some additional good properties in it.Haha, actually it's not that complicated. Just a spray wax. Provide a quicker way to wax only. Also, to top-up wax on the current paint surface. In any event, I will try dropping by the HQ later in the afternoon and see if i can pick up one. |
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HEADS UP GUYS. Small detailing TT tonight.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry64924504 Also something special....car boot sale for some of the stuffs that my friend is letting go his stock. Helping him to get rid of the stuffs cuz he's shutting down. I'll list down the items but don't ask me about the price ya...need to come and look see for yourself. But I can tell you that it's a closing down sale price so you it will definitely be something special. First come first serve & cash terms only. GG Black GG Blue GG Red GG Yellow Dolly Black Dolly Blue Dolly Red Dolly system White mf red edge mf green mf carrand mf applicator (2 in packs) shmitt yellow/white shmitt black/black shmitt white/white shmitt white/yellow pad conditioning brush mf apron BH clay regular BH clay soft Menz 203S Menz 106fa Menz 106fa gal Menz PO85rd Menz PO83 Menz PO87MC Menz PO115C Menz APO60 *GG = Grit Guard Insert *BH = Bilt Hamber *Menz = Menzerna Duragloss Products: #401 DG APC 22oz #401 DG APC 1 gal #471 DG Bug Remover 22oz #471 DG Bug Remover 1 gal #481 DG Wax Eraser 4oz #505 DG WSR 22oz #521 DG Marine QD 22oz #521 DG Marine QD 1 gal #461 DG Ultimate Orange 32oz #461 DG Ultimate Orange 1 gal #101 DG PC 8oz #101 DG PC 1 gal #501 DG Marine RV Polish 1 gal #601 DG PBA 8oz #601 DG PBA 1 gal #105 DG TPP 16oz #105 DG TPP 1 gal #2930 Track Claw Polish 16oz DG EnviroShield #951 DG Aquawax 22oz #951 DG Aquawax 1 gal #751 DG Rain Repel 22oz #751 DG Rain Repel 1 ga #755 DG NuGlass Polish 8oz #755 DG NuGlass Polish 1 gal #681 DG Plastic Polish 8oz #681 DG Plastic Polish 1 gal #812 DG AWC 22oz #812 DG AWC 1 gal #253 DG TMD 19oz #271 DG RBD 8oz #271 DG RBD 1 gal #831 DG MCB 22oz #881 DG MP 12oz ps. mode/admin, please inform me if I'm going against the rules and I'll take this post off. And thousands apologies if I am. |
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