use ultimate quik wax better. (last longer since it was meant to be able to use by it's own, however most people use it as a topper only)
leave UQD as it's intended purpose - QD

Like KrisMas has said, I too never came across or aware of any product that function like Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Detailer, but in large volume and can be diluted with water.
Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Detailer is a consumer range product, only sold in that size.
So yes I do agree with you it is not economical. If you have a weekend car then probably worth it but if your car is daily driver, I do not think worth the money. A good wax alone can provide equally amazing water beading effect.

The following product by Meguiar's is in large volume only:

D155 Detailer Last Touch Spray Detailer, 1 Gallon
This one if used as clay lubricant can be diluted half water half product. For use as quik detailer purpose, straight out of the container, no dilution.

But it has no Hydrophobic Polymer Technology like the Ultimate Quik Detailer. So it will only clean up light dust, finger print, smudge, etc. But will not boost water beading effect. However if only intended to use as spray quik detailer then this is suitable.

The following has Hydrophobic Polymer Technology, so it should boost water beading as good as Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Detailer:

M135 Mirror Glaze® Synthetic Spray Detailer, 1 Gallon

If you want boost up your wax water beading, try spray wax instead. Spray wax available in large volume.

D156 Detailer Synthetic X-Press™ Spray Wax, 1 Gallon

This post has been edited by scoutfai: Feb 6 2014, 01:21 PM

again, QD. eg: random bird shit drop on hood, 1 small spot. you don't wash the whole car just for a spot right? that's when QD comes in. they have cleaning properties (eg: IPA, which may actually strip wax if not careful) which will dissolve dirt or in this case, that bird shit.

stuff like bird dropping/tar/tree sap/bugs etc are best cleaned before they harden/etch to the paint surface/clear coat. and QD is essential in doing that. i keep a very small spray bottle in my new car and whenever i see a spot i just whip out that bottle and tissue paper to QD>wipe

what happens is that your wax/LSP (last step protection) durability is severely reduced. if you wax every week (eg: spray waxes) then it shouldn't be a problem.

and, it just doesn't feel nice sealing all the contaminants/defects under wax/LSP (you want your car condition to be tiptop/shiny shiny, no?)

speaking of spray bottles, the osren ones die to megs WB :/
lost 2 sprayers liao. so i use my sonax xtreme WC bottle and bought another sonax xtreme WC

and as mentioned (since i'm regularly using both UQW and UQD), UQW will do a better job for that purpose considering you don't need any cleaning properties after car wash

I intend to apply the wax once every two weeks.

Of course i want my car to look at its best but as a beginner, i intend to do what is the minimum required of me first to make sure my car paint job is given the most protection that my currently ability can provide

The thing that i am worried is that sealing those contaminants under a layer of wax would harm my paint job.

if you're that worried, use AIO's as sifu Krismas advised

Thanks for the info bros.. learn something on "toys".. will try to see how much the price the Spray Detailer..

g88 mentioned this previously that as alternative to UQD, you can use Meguiars M135. It's the professional range series of the UQD that can be bought in a gallon.



He also suggested alternatively you can get a gallon of ONR and dilute it as QD. The decision to use ONR / any other rinseless type of product like Meguiars D114 or M135 / UQD depends on how much dirt you want to clean. UQD is usually very light dust and dirt.

From my very limited experience, if the surface is not clean, you'll experience cloudy / streaking on the paint your're waxing. At least that happens to the waxes I use.

I read that the Last Touch was suppose to be the one to use but now with newer products, people skip this and got for M135. Perhaps due to it's hydrophobic qualities.

The professional / detailer version of Meguiars spray wax is the D156.

This post has been edited by jchue73: Feb 6 2014, 12:48 PM

All these professional series kinda rare to get it on market... hardly find on Ace Hardware shop..

You are right, is D156. I was heading out for lunch in office so do not have time to finish my edit on the post. My bad.
I have no experience with the last touch neither, but if one want to use quik detailer only, in large volume, the Last Touch will serve the purpose. I am guessing the M135 is more expensive so some people might want to go after a cheaper alternative.

That's true unfortunately. Try the automotive garage sales here or you can head to Hypercoat in Subang if you're in KL/PJ area.

Sorry my last post was not done edit when you reply. Now it is done already.
Try Hypercoat company HQ, in Subang. You can walk in and buy like retail customer at weekdays.
If they do not have it, you can order and wait for it to arrive then collect.

Malaysia only has Hypercoat as official distributor, so we do not really have choice on supplier. Other online seller will be private seller and if you manage to find one, go ahead, should be good enough too. Price wise might even be cheaper than Hypercoat.

hrrmm...curious. The only product that killed my chem resistant sprayer is DDJ Supernatural Red Mist. Have you tried unscrewing the nozzle and cleaning the inside? They might just be 'clogged'....

A few possibilities:

1. For the paint itself - contaminant *could* possibly accelerate oxidation or failure of the clear coat. But this would take several years of neglect in order for it to happen.

2. For the wax/sealant - waxes/sealants adhere best on clean surface. So, if there's any contaminant, adhesion would be weaker and this would result in shorter durability or cloudy patches after application.

If you're really worried about it, then there's only one thing you should concentrate on - WASH REGULARLY. Most shampoo would leave a tiny little amount of wax/sealant. Though not enough to give proper protection, at least it's something and the surface would stay relatively clean hence minimizing contaminants to cause maximum damage.

Furthermore, most of the normal consumer range waxes/sealants also contain some cleaners in them. Taking that into consideration, the process of applying waxes/sealants of any kind would also remove *some* contaminant due to the cleaner in them and also the aggressiveness of the applicator (you'd normally see the applicator turns dirty during/after use).

Shucks...now it's getting more and more complicated. Well....if you regularly clean your car and occasionally wax it...don't worry la...most probably the car would have left you before the paint is damaged.....

My "alternative" quik detailer is actually Optimum No Rinse / Turtlewax Rinseless Wash (which you can easily get in Tesco and Ace Hardware). Tesco is selling at RM35/bottle. 1oz for 32oz of water should serve the same purpose like quik detailer for me.

*The dilution ratio might be over abit, do some math and adjust accordingly

you mean the small plastic "cap" that screws on the nozzle right? yeah unscrewed, wash/clean it, no go

product just never comes out anymore.

I bought at tesco TWRW is RM28 only...just use one time for rinseless wash and thinking to make QD after this..

Wow that's quite a reasonable price. i tried once for TWRW as clay lube. Not bad. It's quite smooth and I like the smell too

Found it at Tesco Kajang...yeah..maybe bought another to make clay lube also..

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-d...eless-wash.html

Haha, the number one thing that i fear is the cloudy patches after wax application because my car is black in color so a small dot of such defect is enough to kill the entire appearance of the car and not to mention my self satisfaction.

I wash my car once every week at night with Magic 101's "Wash & Wax" but because of my regular car wash, the wax will wear off faster than i was told.

I just did my 4 layer polish and wax about 2 weeks ago and washed my car only once so now my car still feels "smooth". I reckon the wax is still around but i do not know how long will it last so before it goes away so i am hoping that before it goes away, i apply the wax.

I've seen so much videos online using clay bars and some to the extreme using a rotary machine to polish off the contaminants before they apply the wax but i have absolutely zero knowledge on these advance techniques and if i were to try it, i know it will cause more harm than good which is why i asking around to see if just washing the car thoroughly would be sufficient to prep the car for waxing T____T