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post Dec 9 2013, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Dec 9 2013, 09:43 AM)
Everything's relative...

maybe for that class of props at Iskandar region it is considered goodleh...

I mean, not any ahkow ah beng can simply buy multi million props just like that...
Iskandar was built with the sole intention of luring Singaporean investors. But with the recent curbs implemented by the Gov, how do they expect this project to appreciate in future? If I were an investor, why would I pump in RM2 mil for a condo in JB when I can pump that same amount (or slightly more) and get one in the Golden Triangle in KL with much better prospects for capital appreciation?
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 9 2013, 09:47 AM)
Iskandar was built with the sole intention of luring Singaporean investors. But with the recent curbs implemented by the Gov, how do they expect this project to appreciate in future? If I were an investor, why would I pump in RM2 mil for a condo in JB when I can pump that same amount (or slightly more) and get one in the Golden Triangle in KL with much better prospects for capital appreciation?
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Until the HSR is complete, I think singaporeans think that KL is too far....

JB, crime infested it was, is still near to their home base.

If I am singaporean, I will invest in Iskandar.

Likewise I only invest in KV because I know the area and I could manage my investment better.
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post Dec 9 2013, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 9 2013, 09:10 AM)
7 months and only 50% sold and they call that good?

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2013...dy-in-2017.aspx
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I have realised the need to read our newspapers with a kg of salt. They tend to give the nice side of the story. Why? I guess that is one of the license conditions, not to create fear/panic in the public.

In fact, I have written to the author of one online property article where the author painted a nice prosperous image of the real estate industry less than 5 months ago. I cautioned the need to follow the principles of journalism (e.g., truth, etc) as some commoners may take the article as the truth and buy properties now as not to miss the train. If the bubble bursts or loan rate goes up, some of them will be cursing themselves for believing that article.

My 3 cents.
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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Dec 9 2013, 09:49 AM)
Until the HSR is complete, I think singaporeans think that KL is too far....

JB, crime infested it was, is still near to their home base.

If I am singaporean, I will invest in Iskandar.

Likewise I only invest in KV because I know the area and I could manage my investment better.
The key difference is that KL doesn't need Singaporean investors while Iskandar is almost totally reliant on Singaporeans. 70% of the properties in Iskandar bought by non Malaysians were purchased by Singaporeans.

And yes if u were a Singaporean you would invest in Iskandar but would you invest in a RM2 mil (starting price) condo or would you invest in a landed property?

That's my point.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Dec 9 2013, 09:51 AM)
I have realised the need to read our newspapers with a kg of salt. They tend to give the nice side of the story. Why? I guess that is one of the license conditions, not to create fear/panic in the public.

In fact, I have written to the author of one online property article where the author painted a nice prosperous image of the real estate industry less than 5 months ago. I cautioned the need to follow the principles of journalism (e.g., truth, etc) as some commoners may take the article as the truth and buy properties now as not to miss the train. If the bubble bursts or loan rate goes up, some of them will be cursing themselves for believing that article.

My 3 cents.
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Look at the amount of property launching advertisement on newspaper, think journalists dare to write negative about their $$ source.
If anyone buy property base on newspaper write they have themselves to blame.
Having says that current properties market r similar to pyramid scheme, so long u can get someone at the bottom then no problem.
Just don't blindly buy.
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post Dec 9 2013, 10:21 AM

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Almost all printed media paint a rosy picture of the property outlook. It is therefore, exercise due diligence before buying. No body knows what the future will become.

I had a chat with an architect, it was interesting to know the inside story of construction business. All the talk about petrol price hike and raw material price hike are inmaterial, the biggest cost is the land cost. There is only so much of land but plenty of raw materials suppliers.

All in all, construction is a lucrative business!!!! You want G&G, you want landscaping, you want quality build, you want prime location, the developer will pass on the costs to you.

Nobody will know when is the cheapest to buy, to make money, consider property a long term (5-10 years) investment.

This post has been edited by limch: Dec 9 2013, 10:22 AM
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post Dec 9 2013, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 9 2013, 10:16 AM)
The key difference is that KL doesn't need Singaporean investors while Iskandar is almost totally reliant on Singaporeans. 70% of the properties in Iskandar bought by non Malaysians were purchased by Singaporeans.

And yes if u were a Singaporean you would invest in Iskandar but would you invest in a RM2 mil (starting price) condo or would you invest in a landed property?

That's my point.
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Aiyah...1mil or 2mil ringgit props are dirt cheap to them mah.... biggrin.gif

huge condos somemore, not like some bird cage HDB flats that could get for the same bucks back home...
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 9 2013, 10:16 AM)
The key difference is that KL doesn't need Singaporean investors while Iskandar is almost totally reliant on Singaporeans. 70% of the properties in Iskandar bought by non Malaysians were purchased by Singaporeans.

And yes if u were a Singaporean you would invest in Iskandar but would you invest in a RM2 mil (starting price) condo or would you invest in a landed property?

That's my point.
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Safety is a important aspect for Singapore buyer, Condo is safer compare to landed.


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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Dec 9 2013, 10:26 AM)
Aiyah...1mil or 2mil ringgit props are dirt cheap to them mah.... biggrin.gif

huge condos somemore, not like some bird cage HDB flats that could get for the same bucks back home...
Then why is the take up rate only 50% 7 months after the initial launch?
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 9 2013, 11:00 AM)
Then why is the take up rate only 50% 7 months after the initial launch?
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Dunno...maybe the recent umno antics them off leh? biggrin.gif
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post Dec 9 2013, 11:13 AM

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Then why is the take up rate only 50% 7 months after the initial launch?

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must be too cheap lah!
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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Dec 9 2013, 11:01 AM)
Dunno...maybe the recent umno antics them off leh?  biggrin.gif
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Speculators/Investors will alway choose $$$ over dignity.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 9 2013, 11:00 AM)
Then why is the take up rate only 50% 7 months after the initial launch?
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Singaporean now target Bangkok, London & Australia..hehe

http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/news/3...-bangkok-condos

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/busine...jor/818132.html

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post Dec 9 2013, 11:56 AM

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post Dec 9 2013, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Dec 9 2013, 11:57 AM)
What do we get in return ? Nothing ? bad investment of time. ..lol

Offer some freebies lah, don't expect free lunch.
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QUOTE(joeblows @ Dec 3 2013, 10:59 AM)
I think you've been looking in the wrong areas brother.

Either that or CBRE bullshits you.

http://www.acuterealty.com/PropertyDetail/..._Sale-Sukhumvit

270 sq METRES (3000 sqft) for only RM1.6m on Sukhumvit Soi

http://www.acuterealty.com/PropertyDetail/...Park%20Thonglor

126 sq METRES (1250 sqft) for only RM850k, and the best part, you can rent it out at USD 1166 which is equivalent to RM 3.6k.
That works out to 5% Rental Yield, far in excess of what you can get for KLCC condos nowadays....even at asking price (not comparing to price 5 years ago).

If you really think Bangkok prop is so overpriced, you should be all over this brother. Lots of contra/flipping opportunity... rclxm9.gif
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Ok bro. You seem to know the market well notworthy.gif coz I haven't been back there for quite some years now. All hear say lah. Thanks.
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post Dec 10 2013, 11:32 AM

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Does anybody know anything about property valuation prices coming down in some areas in KV?
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessecolombo/2...bubble-economy/

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post Dec 10 2013, 01:26 PM

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This is another good article share by someone else:
http://www.businessinsider.com/are-you-the...he-table-2011-6

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post Dec 10 2013, 01:58 PM

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At the rate this bubble topic is heating up here, I reckon coming up with a song basd on bubble burst> A Parody on WHAT DOES THE FOX SAYS! bluppa-blup-blup-blup-pissshhhhhhhhh. THe KLSE ding, my salary no up, TNB goes buzzz, and the GST is coming. WHAT DOES PROPERTY SAYS! ah ga ding ding ding ding ding UP, ding ding ding ding ding UP!

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