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Investment 4 Critical Signs of a Bubble Market, Property Investment

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satrianeo-x
post Nov 28 2013, 03:55 PM

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I hope no bubble 'burst' but bubble lose some air... that's better Burst will cause accident and many collateral damage.
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post Nov 28 2013, 07:55 PM

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Try google...but here it is
Rental permonth x 12 months / property purchase price x 100

Pls note u shld taake into consideration legal fees, stamping annnnnd also if unrent out, if tenant like shitu need minor renovation/repair cost etc. which isnwhy somemprefer not to rent out n wait for cap gain. Hope this helps.

QUOTE(paogiv3r @ Nov 28 2013, 06:37 PM)
Dear Ts,

PRICE/RENT RATIO GROSS RENTAL YIELD (%)
5 20 Very undervalued
6.7 15 Very undervalued
8.3 12 Undervalued
10 10 Undervalued
12.5 8 Borderline undervalued
14.2 7 Fairly priced
16.7 6 Fairly priced
20 5 Borderline overvalued
25 4 Overvalued
33.3 3 Overvalued
40 2.5 Very overvalued
50 2 Very overvalued

How to calculate this?
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post Nov 29 2013, 02:16 PM

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I think individual bubble will burst long before actual MASS burst happens.

During that time, price stagnation plus slow market will affect individuals who may be over-leverage plus invested in locations which are not that hot. Plus competition in surrounding areas.

Having said that I must respect some who are very gung-ho and go go go.

So unless economy collapse (world, usa, china etc), ppl like me (who dun invest or take interest) might not even rasa anything.. 'ISNT'T AH? waaaaaaa..." BLOW WATER ONLY

Oh I wanna ask ask... during 2009 - 2010, was new property launches PSF price so extreme? eg. nearby houses selling for 300psf but new launches is 550PSF. Just wondering!


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post Dec 2 2013, 11:18 AM

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so much work la now hunt for property with motivated seller. Do u reckon i go look at housese every weekend. SO many agents, after 2 times, they lazy one knowing u are window shopping. Haiz.....
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post Dec 2 2013, 03:06 PM

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WOW... cheaper than a 2 dollar thai hooker. Drama minggu ini.
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post Dec 2 2013, 03:12 PM

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Wow.. here we go http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/248178

Like playing DAI DEE, now not even 1 DAI DEE out yet, these are kacang putih only... building up. Time to for SAM HUI ga ga ga song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS41W_IMB_U

"In the face of an anticipated announcement to increase electricity rates, Tenaga Nasional Bhd (TNB) has asked for a suspension in its shares trading today.

Last Wednesday Ongkili warned that a 10 - 20 percent electricity hike was now on the cards for next year. "
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post Dec 10 2013, 01:58 PM

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At the rate this bubble topic is heating up here, I reckon coming up with a song basd on bubble burst> A Parody on WHAT DOES THE FOX SAYS! bluppa-blup-blup-blup-pissshhhhhhhhh. THe KLSE ding, my salary no up, TNB goes buzzz, and the GST is coming. WHAT DOES PROPERTY SAYS! ah ga ding ding ding ding ding UP, ding ding ding ding ding UP!
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post Dec 18 2013, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(katijar @ Dec 18 2013, 11:23 AM)
"... stricter planning and approval conditions to discourage the over-supply of high end housing and encourage the supply of affordable and low end housing. "

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how to make profit?
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How much profit are you looking at?

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post Jan 2 2014, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Jan 2 2014, 10:23 AM)
I think by and large investors should also consider RENTING a property close to their office nearby for convenience purposes.

Meaning to say, RENTERS may not necessary do not own a home or properties. Say someone from Cheras working in PJ. He or she may rent in Tropicana City near to office, and owned a landed property in Cheras where he rented out. He also buys properties for investment rental in Setapak, Jalan Ampang, USJ Subang Jaya and Maluri. All his properties seem to be investable and rentable, yet HE himself rents and want to be close to his GF's parents' home in PJ.

I encountered such person.
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Kuat main letew. Bukan pasal jauh ke apa LOL
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post Jan 3 2014, 11:40 AM

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I can understand the frustrations on the current crazy prices of property. A crash, as I always pray, will not happened. It's because, if it does, property would have little to do with it. I would say it will remain stagnant from here onwards. To any owner, that is akin to losing money and time (interest paid, can't rent out, have t pay management fees, blablabla)

So my dear BEARBEARWONG, buy time and kumpul your bullets. Time + stagnation will eventually treat you well enough.

Nontheless, 500k for any SOHO, would not be a smart buy (IMHO), if it is for your own stay. Buy hey, if one insist on 'lifestyle', by all means. WHatever makes you happy, right?

This post has been edited by satrianeo-x: Jan 3 2014, 11:41 AM
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post Jan 3 2014, 01:50 PM

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I think I heard about a saying tht applies to ppl buy property in HK. 'FOO JI CHAN'. I think it means property liability. It means loan is much higher than how much can one sell it for. I could be wrong. I have been hearing around relatives and friends lately. THey worry about the situation with the property prices escalation here.

If one is buying for own stay, I still don't think this is too much of problem so long as one buys within one's means.

Sure, gov shld not spread panic or say WE ARE IN TROUBLE. In fact, that is the reason they control the media. In fact, it is also the media's responsibility to strike a balance. Nonetheless, like a listed company, certain level of transparency does reveal a lot about the health of a country (or company) More so, if you are it's citizens.
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post Jan 3 2014, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Jan 3 2014, 02:09 PM)
If there is Supply and No demand (because loan rejected) = ????? (No Transaction = Market Stagnantation)
thumbup.gif  Yup...Couldnt agree more. You are convincing people that the market is still good so that you could sell your overpriced property to feed your lust for profits at the expense of your buyers. Good question, would you buy your similar property at the price you are selling? That is a damn good question.
Just had lunch with a CIMB Bank Loans Head as guess what he told me? He said you could submit whatever Valuation on your property but HQ has already instructed them to approve loans based on how much you are worth (meaning how much you can afford to pay). Lets say you submit your property valuation at Rm700k but he thinks you are only eligible for Rm500k so he will only offer you Rm500k, take it or leave it. This is because the Banks also feel that the price of properties has been overvalued because of flippers and greedy property owners. Up to you on whether you want to believe it or not... but looking at the Loans Approval Rate, there is something to ponder upon.
We never said that the market will collapse or sink. There will always be demand. People are never satisfied with what they have. Be it me or you. But the main issue is, is the BUYING POWER still there? Can the people still afford to buy and service their loans or rather can the people still get ridiculously high loans for their property with their meagre income?
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Erm. Aren't bank loan suppose to be that way? U know, loaning you money which you could sustain/repay? You mean all along bank simply loan loan loan, as in the case of DIBS? Gulp!


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