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  Jun 11 2006, 09:12 PM, updated 16y ago
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I just get my Sennheiser HD485. Anyone using da same version or more higher level... Post your experience here....would like to know more about this headphones from Sennheiser...    |
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Jun 11 2006, 11:14 PM
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I think there was a Sennheiser fan club last time... Don't know where it went though... I'm on a HD555, the entry to the hi end audiophile world. Being on it for almost half a year ady. Will be getting a MH to drive it soon, hope to bring it to it's full potential. But im eyeing the ATH K701, saving up now.  |
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Jun 11 2006, 11:49 PM
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HD595 here. Mid level headphone I guess
 The most significant thing about Sennheiser's headphones are the details. And HD595 is very easy to drive, headamp to me is more of a plus than a necessity to bring up good music  |
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Jun 11 2006, 11:49 PM
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Had had a HD497 b4...
It sounds great, but less comfortable... |
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Jun 12 2006, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(kenlui @ Jun 11 2006, 11:14 PM) I think there was a Sennheiser fan club last time... Don't know where it went though... AKG K701 or ATH W1000? I'm on a HD555, the entry to the hi end audiophile world. Being on it for almost half a year ady. Will be getting a MH to drive it soon, hope to bring it to it's full potential. But im eyeing the ATH K701, saving up now.  |
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Jun 12 2006, 12:05 AM
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heya,
hd555 here. these type of headphones are HEAVY. |
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Jun 12 2006, 01:06 AM
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HD650 joker here. Sounds crap with pop i must say, compared to other equipment i've auditioned. But feed it Scherzos, Classical Soundtracks and Jazzy tunes, and you'll just say "Damn, it's worth it"
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Jun 12 2006, 01:10 AM
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argh.. HD650 is not universal music headphone ah?! i tot the king can conquer everything.
Btw, i saw mediaplex buck up at Rm2200.. davis really got a great deal here. akabane, Does HD485 interesting than the AT u got currently? Or both is completely different sound signature?! This post has been edited by dinodog_Jr: Jun 12 2006, 01:10 AM |
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Jun 12 2006, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 12 2006, 01:10 AM) argh.. HD650 is not universal music headphone ah?! i tot the king can conquer everything. Universal in an Audiophile sense.Btw, i saw mediaplex buck up at Rm2200.. davis really got a great deal here. akabane, Does HD485 interesting than the AT u got currently? Or both is completely different sound signature?!  But not so universal in the empire23 sense where i like to throw in the occasional Animu faggish OST tune, or a radio pop tune just to lighten the mood and bop to the beat. |
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Jun 12 2006, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 12 2006, 01:10 AM) argh.. HD650 is not universal music headphone ah?! i tot the king can conquer everything. I test up i think all my heaphones is different level. Compare to my HD485 and AT-M30 is the HD485 More heavy & strong bass. meanwhile my AT-M30 is more to Monitoring but is lose up at bass level. HD485 so far i think are my best one lo. I been compare also my philips SHP 895 the bass still lose to HD485. (All Headphones tested with Mini-Eph and Behringer 800AMP Series).Btw, i saw mediaplex buck up at Rm2200.. davis really got a great deal here. akabane, Does HD485 interesting than the AT u got currently? Or both is completely different sound signature?! QUOTE(empire23 @ Jun 12 2006, 01:12 AM) Universal in an Audiophile sense. oh... But not so universal in the empire23 sense where i like to throw in the occasional Animu faggish OST tune, or a radio pop tune just to lighten the mood and bop to the beat.  This post has been edited by Akabane@DrJackel: Jun 12 2006, 08:44 AM |
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Jun 12 2006, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Jun 11 2006, 11:49 PM) HD595 here. Mid level headphone I guess eh, HD595 no need amp ah? The most significant thing about Sennheiser's headphones are the details. And HD595 is very easy to drive, headamp to me is more of a plus than a necessity to bring up good music i might change my mind to get a HP1000, get this i guess cause no need amp. |
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Jun 12 2006, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(rpg @ Jun 12 2006, 08:49 AM) eh, HD595 no need amp ah? All heaphones improvement is base on amp. If HP1000 with amp sure will blow-up, fantastic.. i might change my mind to get a HP1000, get this i guess cause no need amp. |
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Jun 12 2006, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE(rpg @ Jun 12 2006, 08:49 AM) eh, HD595 no need amp ah? yup...hd595 easier to drive than hp1000...err..i assume it's philips hp1000 and not the grado hp1000 right? i might change my mind to get a HP1000, get this i guess cause no need amp. but you're comparing a rm400+ and rm700+ hp there..  ..for that budget u can try the hp1000 + headamp...hd595 and hp1000 have a very different sound signature..u shud try both before committing to either one...IMHO.. Cheers |
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Jun 12 2006, 09:34 AM
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Currently using the hd497 and pc as the source. Sounds good enough for me
 but it does tend to get warm after prolong usage |
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Jun 12 2006, 09:47 AM
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Using HD650 with Zu Mobius.
HD 595 improves little with amp usage in my opinion. |
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Jun 12 2006, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jun 12 2006, 01:12 AM) Universal in an Audiophile sense. Just recently rewatched GITS 2nd Gig and Rozen Maiden exclusively on Zhaolu D2 + HD650.. you can say i really enjoyed that extra bit of detail offered by the combo. Neat~ But not so universal in the empire23 sense where i like to throw in the occasional Animu faggish OST tune, or a radio pop tune just to lighten the mood and bop to the beat. |
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Jun 12 2006, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Jun 11 2006, 11:49 PM) HD595 here. Mid level headphone I guess plus than a necessitiy..u havent heard a proper amp then.. The most significant thing about Sennheiser's headphones are the details. And HD595 is very easy to drive, headamp to me is more of a plus than a necessity to bring up good music |
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Jun 12 2006, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jun 12 2006, 08:53 AM) All heaphones improvement is base on amp. If HP1000 with amp sure will blow-up, fantastic.. No.. not all improvements come from amp. The right source is more of an improvement than a headamp. QUOTE(mysticaldodo @ Jun 12 2006, 09:47 AM) Using HD650 with Zu Mobius. Yeah.. I tried both HP895 and HD595... conclusion is HD595 already shines out of box. The headamp isn't helping as much compared to HP895. That's why I don't need to think of upgrading headamp anymore LOLHD 595 improves little with amp usage in my opinion. |
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Jun 12 2006, 11:26 AM
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[quote=Renovatio,Jun 12 2006, 10:20 AM]
No.. not all improvements come from amp. The right source is more of an improvement than a headamp. R u sure is no improvement? |
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Jun 12 2006, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jun 12 2006, 11:26 AM) R u sure is no improvement? He's not saying there are no improvements with an ampHe's saying that an improvement can come from the source too HD565 & 595 user here Oh yeah, the 555 might be a beter choice than the HP1000 if you're not planning to get an amp This post has been edited by KilJim: Jun 12 2006, 11:55 AM |
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Jun 12 2006, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Jun 12 2006, 11:53 AM) He's not saying there are no improvements with an amp ic, sounds more clear now. thanks man. He's saying that an improvement can come from the source too HD565 & 595 user here Oh yeah, the 555 might be a beter choice than the HP1000 if you're not planning to get an amp |
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Jun 12 2006, 03:23 PM
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@categ
AKG K701 first... then only maybe the other one.. hehe must go up by steps ma.This post has been edited by kenlui: Jun 13 2006, 07:45 AM |
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Jun 12 2006, 03:36 PM
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Senny HD650 unamped here (OMG OMG OMG! what a waste!)
Oh well, i'm still waiting for my PPAV2 |
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Jun 12 2006, 03:47 PM
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wah.. you really ordered PPAv2 from thedoctor? hehe
I think he should thank me for recommending business for him |
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Jun 12 2006, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(kenlui @ Jun 12 2006, 03:23 PM) @categ kenlui,ATH k701 first... then only maybe the other one.. hehe must go up by steps ma.please re-read what's categg post..there's no ATH K701 maaa...it's AKG K701 Cheers |
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Jun 12 2006, 04:22 PM
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Jun 12 2006, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jun 12 2006, 04:22 PM) ....................... huh ?? nothing to post then no need to post mah... |
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Jun 12 2006, 05:35 PM
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Well in my opinion, Audio setups are vaguely like PC ones as well, ever play a game after installing a new graphics card and saying "shitcock, it's still slow!", well, might be the CPU being the bottleneck i guess.
Just my 2 cents, because that's one theory that hasn't been proven yet. |
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Jun 12 2006, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jun 12 2006, 05:35 PM) Well in my opinion, Audio setups are vaguely like PC ones as well, ever play a game after installing a new graphics card and saying "shitcock, it's still slow!", well, might be the CPU being the bottleneck i guess. i agreed that... Just my 2 cents, because that's one theory that hasn't been proven yet.  |
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Jun 12 2006, 05:44 PM
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That's why we should learn to get through from low-end to high-end in slowly progress.
btw, headphone price won't drop like handphone price. No harm to invest over thousand one.. Empire 23, maybe u should consider to jump over Grado RS-1... hehe. |
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Jun 12 2006, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 12 2006, 05:44 PM) That's why we should learn to get through from low-end to high-end in slowly progress. High end level?btw, headphone price won't drop like handphone price. No harm to invest over thousand one.. Empire 23, maybe u should consider to jump over Grado RS-1... hehe. |
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Jun 12 2006, 06:16 PM
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sorry i mean low-end setup to high-end setup..
haha, best is to understand more bout the components in ur setup. I bet i am goin to stuck all those electronic components model into my little brain. Do u like ur mini-EPH? R U using wif adaptor? |
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Jun 12 2006, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 12 2006, 06:16 PM) sorry i mean low-end setup to high-end setup.. yeah right should go from low end slowly go to high rig, yes is look like the mini-eph is suit my ear. I'm using a adaptor.haha, best is to understand more bout the components in ur setup. I bet i am goin to stuck all those electronic components model into my little brain. Do u like ur mini-EPH? R U using wif adaptor? |
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Jun 12 2006, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 12 2006, 05:44 PM) That's why we should learn to get through from low-end to high-end in slowly progress. I only have 1 problem with that, not the cash right now, but the comfort, i have this problem where my ears are pretty sensitive to presure and plus i have problem with intense flaking of my inner ear skin, and with those pads pressing againts my ear.... well, i don't mind if they came out with RS-1 with Sennheiser earpads in a circuaural config. Well, let's just say i'd kill for a GS-1000 but not an RS-1. btw, headphone price won't drop like handphone price. No harm to invest over thousand one.. Empire 23, maybe u should consider to jump over Grado RS-1... hehe. |
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Jun 12 2006, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jun 12 2006, 06:18 PM) I only have 1 problem with that, not the cash right now, but the comfort, i have this problem where my ears are pretty sensitive to presure and plus i have problem with intense flaking of my inner ear skin, and with those pads pressing againts my ear.... well, i don't mind if they came out with RS-1 with Sennheiser earpads in a circuaural config. Well, let's just say i'd kill for a GS-1000 but not an RS-1. i see, u got a problem with ur skin...   |
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Jun 12 2006, 08:09 PM
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renovatio..u really havent heard a good amp yet, thats why u said its a plus than a neccessity..a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, but i guess ur gonna flame me back on this statement.
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Jun 12 2006, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 12 2006, 05:44 PM) That's why we should learn to get through from low-end to high-end in slowly progress. Errrr, going from crappy USB soundcard to K710 + Emu1616m is not really a slow process to me.btw, headphone price won't drop like handphone price. No harm to invest over thousand one.. Empire 23, maybe u should consider to jump over Grado RS-1... hehe. In short, stay away from people here, I'm broke .... *anyways, anyone have any idea how to clean the pad on the phones? They get kinda ... err ... Smelly at times because of long wear ... (Plus it's summer here now) This post has been edited by Geminist: Jun 12 2006, 08:59 PM |
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Jun 12 2006, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(ijan @ Jun 12 2006, 08:09 PM) renovatio..u really havent heard a good amp yet, thats why u said its a plus than a neccessity..a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, but i guess ur gonna flame me back on this statement. fren, i think he should try more type of amp to decide the statement. |
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Jun 12 2006, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jun 12 2006, 09:41 PM) fren, i think he should try more type of amp to decide the statement. Friend, you are a bit too fast in replying everyone Anyway, yeah I know I haven't tried a lot of amps, I am poor remember? hehe I may eat my own words if I get to try LittleGhost's PPAv2 later, but maybe I won't. We never know Sound quality is very subjective no matter how scientifically (or financially) you want to prove the point. |
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Jun 12 2006, 09:56 PM
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Geminist,
If cannot remove the pad to wash. Use Febreez to spray on the comfy..Dat killing bacteria perfume..haha (Forgot how to spell correctly) Yea.. I knw u bought a thousand plus AKG headphone after sticking here for a moment too. Hope u enjoy the phone until now~! Empire23, So by any chances, when u will goin to let go your HD650.... at HALF PRICE ~! Hee.... This post has been edited by dinodog_Jr: Jun 12 2006, 09:58 PM |
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Jun 12 2006, 10:02 PM
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so..
anyone can suggest me a good amp for hd 555? or izit good enuff without amp? |
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Jun 12 2006, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(benQue @ Jun 12 2006, 10:02 PM) so.. i think u should get one amp. For me i use my cili padi amp (Mini-Eph)anyone can suggest me a good amp for hd 555? or izit good enuff without amp? |
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Jun 12 2006, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Jun 12 2006, 09:56 PM) Friend, you are a bit too fast in replying everyone Well hard to say since i haven't heard many myself. But like all good enthusaists, we'll take the plunge, sooner or later Anyway, yeah I know I haven't tried a lot of amps, I am poor remember? hehe I may eat my own words if I get to try LittleGhost's PPAv2 later, but maybe I won't. We never know Sound quality is very subjective no matter how scientifically (or financially) you want to prove the point. QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 12 2006, 09:56 PM) Geminist, lol, i'm not really a person of selling stuff unless i really don't use them. But i have always liked variety in audio, but i guess i've attached to these cans for now lol. Anyways, it's good having a good bench can. Probably i'll stick to it If cannot remove the pad to wash. Use Febreez to spray on the comfy..Dat killing bacteria perfume..haha (Forgot how to spell correctly) Yea.. I knw u bought a thousand plus AKG headphone after sticking here for a moment too. Hope u enjoy the phone until now~! Empire23, So by any chances, when u will goin to let go your HD650.... at HALF PRICE ~! Hee.... |
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Jun 13 2006, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Jun 12 2006, 03:36 PM) Senny HD650 unamped here (OMG OMG OMG! what a waste!) Oh well, i'm still waiting for my PPAV2 which requires a whole new circuit. whoever said that the PPA v2 is overbright and harsh and piercing didn't swap them default transistors for all i care. it's now smoother than a hybrid tube!  yeah, the thing that you see inside the drawer is a PPAv2. i have a bad habit of dissasembling things after a while. esp after listening to a better setup. QUOTE(Renovatio @ Jun 12 2006, 03:47 PM) wah.. you really ordered PPAv2 from thedoctor? hehe I think he should thank me for recommending business for him thank you Renovatio. want a picture with an autograf? |
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Jun 13 2006, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(thedoctor @ Jun 13 2006, 12:17 AM) which requires a whole new circuit. doctor do u listen the little dot3 b4 with philips hp1000?whoever said that the PPA v2 is overbright and harsh and piercing didn't swap them default transistors for all i care. it's now smoother than a hybrid tube! yeah, the thing that you see inside the drawer is a PPAv2. i have a bad habit of dissasembling things after a while. esp after listening to a better setup. thank you Renovatio. want a picture with an autograf? hw this ppav2 compare with little dot 3 plan to update my amp any idea with done a great job pair with hp1000 |
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Jun 13 2006, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Jun 13 2006, 12:50 AM) doctor do u listen the little dot3 b4 with philips hp1000? hw this ppav2 compare with little dot 3 plan to update my amp any idea with done a great job pair with hp1000 nope. but Categg (i think) mentioned that the LD3 is a whole lot better than the SOHA. and judging that i didn't class the PPAv2 as far better than the SOHA, so theoritically, the LD3 is -maybe-medium-far- better than the PPAv2. it's like this, in simpler English : LD3 to SOHA -> LD3 far better (he said that SOHA is way behind). PPAv2 to SOHA -> SOHA a lil bit behind (not far better, at least i class it as not far better). so that should put : LD3 ------------------------------- PPA v2 --- SOHA. LD3 ----------far better----------- PPAv2 -little/not-far-better- SOHA. see the length of LD3 and SOHA? yeah, way behind. |
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Jun 13 2006, 01:13 AM
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^ and i have no idea what type of amp should compliment the HP-1000. i myself never heard the HP-1000 nor the LD3, let alone to make suggestions for it.
 and thus you could ignore my comments above. and no, it's not Categg personally. because chernloon tells me that, saying that Categg says that. so it's more like Categg mentioned that to chernloon who in turns mentioned to me. like everything else in Audio, it's subjective. you might not like the sound of HP-1000 and says that it sucks, or you might find it better and says that it's godly and was sent from heaven and that it beats the *cough*HD650*cough*. This post has been edited by thedoctor: Jun 13 2006, 01:18 AM |
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Jun 13 2006, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(thedoctor @ Jun 13 2006, 01:08 AM) nope. but Categg (i think) mentioned that the LD3 is a whole lot better than the SOHA. and judging that i didn't class the PPAv2 as far better than the SOHA, so theoritically, the LD3 is -maybe-medium-far- better than the PPAv2. Heh doc, getting sarcastic aren't you? Let me offer my 2 cents again to clear things up. it's like this, in simpler English : LD3 to SOHA -> LD3 far better (he said that SOHA is way behind). PPAv2 to SOHA -> SOHA a lil bit behind (not far better, at least i class it as not far better). so that should put : LD3 ------------------------------- PPA v2 --- SOHA. LD3 ----------far better----------- PPAv2 -little/not-far-better- SOHA. see the length of LD3 and SOHA? yeah, way behind. I say the LD3 is a good match with the HD650 coz it was originally tweaked using the HD650. Other people don't nessacary think so eg. someone's AKG K701 don't really match it well.. Compared with SOHA, the tubey flavour of the LD3 stands out more. Doesn't mean that SOHA isn't good, just that it sounds not so exciting to my ears. Where the LD3 excells in flavour the SOHA stands out in being more neutral and cleaner (noise floor). I've listened to both and i say i can live with either one. Boils down to what you want and what equipment you gonna pair with it at the end of the day. I've never heard of the PPAv2 yet but i'm willing to believe that it's a class above the LD3 and SOHA. But then again it isn't really fair comparing solid state to tubes no? Hope this helps  |
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Jun 13 2006, 01:44 AM
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QUOTE(Categg @ Jun 13 2006, 01:22 AM) Heh doc, getting sarcastic aren't you? Let me offer my 2 cents again to clear things up. I say the LD3 is a good match with the HD650 coz it was originally tweaked using the HD650. Other people don't nessacary think so eg. someone's AKG K701 don't really match it well.. Compared with SOHA, the tubey flavour of the LD3 stands out more. Doesn't mean that SOHA isn't good, just that it sounds not so exciting to my ears. Where the LD3 excells in flavour the SOHA stands out in being more neutral and cleaner (noise floor). I've listened to both and i say i can live with either one. Boils down to what you want and what equipment you gonna pair with it at the end of the day. I've never heard of the PPAv2 yet but i'm willing to believe that it's a class above the LD3 and SOHA. But then again it isn't really fair comparing solid state to tubes no? Hope this helps doh.. never knew that the SOHA aren't really that far behind the LD3. sorry for the sarcastic comments, can't really get my mind off seeing Japan losing to Australia. in 6 minutes!   :craps:guess i'll take a short nap now before someone slaps me. and yes, the PPAv2 shouldn't be compared to both. they have different flavors altogether. different strongpoints, and different sound. just like the HP-1000 and HD650. darn, i just did it again. This post has been edited by thedoctor: Jun 13 2006, 01:46 AM |
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Jun 13 2006, 02:04 AM
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QUOTE(thedoctor @ Jun 13 2006, 01:44 AM) doh.. never knew that the SOHA aren't really that far behind the LD3. sorry for the sarcastic comments, can't really get my mind off seeing Japan losing to Australia. in 6 minutes! my godness :craps:guess i'll take a short nap now before someone slaps me. and yes, the PPAv2 shouldn't be compared to both. they have different flavors altogether. different strongpoints, and different sound. just like the HP-1000 and HD650. darn, i just did it again. me oso  with the resultmy friend lose money ho ka cai i din bet bek to the topic dun ppav2 = soha(jz the name not same?) |
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Jun 13 2006, 07:42 AM
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PPAv2 is solid state amp, SOHA is a tube amp. the difference is huge
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Jun 13 2006, 07:56 AM
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QUOTE(hyyam85 @ Jun 13 2006, 07:42 AM) PPAv2 is solid state amp, SOHA is a tube amp. the difference is huge So PPAv2 is better than Soha? The Doctor, U still make a PPAv2? |
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 12 2006, 09:56 PM) Geminist, but i thought you are a Grado guy? IMO Grado and sennheiser have like total opposite signatures If cannot remove the pad to wash. Use Febreez to spray on the comfy..Dat killing bacteria perfume..haha (Forgot how to spell correctly) Yea.. I knw u bought a thousand plus AKG headphone after sticking here for a moment too. Hope u enjoy the phone until now~! Empire23, So by any chances, when u will goin to let go your HD650.... at HALF PRICE ~! Hee.... |
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Jun 13 2006, 03:41 PM
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i am still looking for a Wider soundstage headphone.
haha.. Got any good recommendation? |
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Jun 13 2006, 05:04 PM
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@littleghost
My fren geminist was never a grado guy, haha |
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Jun 13 2006, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(kenlui @ Jun 13 2006, 05:04 PM) @littleghost i was referring to dinodog My fren geminist was never a grado guy, haha |
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Jun 13 2006, 06:34 PM
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Yet another Sennheiser thread?
HD650 very good one... can pawned all the headphones on earth... Come come got installment plan *Holy crap |
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Jun 13 2006, 07:58 PM
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Davis... ur Senn really got installment plan...
12 or 24 months?! |
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Jun 13 2006, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 13 2006, 06:34 PM) Yet another Sennheiser thread? i dun think soHD650 very good one... can pawned all the headphones on earth... Come come got installment plan *Holy crap there is sstill alot of higher mountain out there  |
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Jun 13 2006, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Jun 13 2006, 08:21 PM) i dun think so i agreed your statement. there is sstill alot of higher mountain out there |
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Jun 13 2006, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jun 13 2006, 09:18 PM) i agreed your statement. lol later we kena gang bang |
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Jun 13 2006, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Jun 13 2006, 09:49 PM) lol aiya, don worry... they will understand it haha later we kena gang bang |
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Jun 13 2006, 11:18 PM
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LOL... K701 is the new king. The veil from sennheiser is ever-eternal.
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Jun 13 2006, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Jun 13 2006, 11:18 PM) LOL... K701 is the new king. The veil from sennheiser is ever-eternal. there was no king in this worldas long as u like ur can then he or she is ur king or queen!!!!! hehe agree?? |
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Jun 13 2006, 11:51 PM
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there is one for everybody. the sennheiser veil is too much for me...the last time i ever heard of them i was completely
glad that i sold it and never have i had a second though on them after my last audition. |
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Jun 14 2006, 07:50 AM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Jun 13 2006, 11:33 PM) there was no king in this world Agreed. as long as u like ur can then he or she is ur king or queen!!!!! hehe agree?? |
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Jun 14 2006, 10:38 AM
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this is my 1st post here in lowyat.net and it has to go to my favourite topic... the audiophile...
i'm currently looking for hd280, any chance where i can find it? if you guys are kind enough to provide me the details, thanks a bunch p/s: how much does a hd280 cost here? |
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Jun 14 2006, 02:54 PM
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Px100 reportin'...
frankly, i prefer px100 over ksc75....i have a major wiring problem with that koss...and the clips keep coming out lol.... |
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Jun 14 2006, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(creap @ Jun 14 2006, 02:54 PM) Px100 reportin'... i don like those clips headphones. is not confortable. frankly, i prefer px100 over ksc75....i have a major wiring problem with that koss...and the clips keep coming out lol.... |
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Jun 15 2006, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE(leng2 @ Jun 14 2006, 10:38 AM) this is my 1st post here in lowyat.net and it has to go to my favourite topic... the audiophile... i think u can refer from one of the shop in klcc "mediaplex". i'm currently looking for hd280, any chance where i can find it? if you guys are kind enough to provide me the details, thanks a bunch p/s: how much does a hd280 cost here? |
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Jun 15 2006, 08:36 AM
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mediaplex sells 'em? i first thought of mediaplex selling very-the-expensive branded stuffs... but come to think of it, we're talking about headphones that costs a few hundred... =.="
thanks akabane! |
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Jun 15 2006, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(leng2 @ Jun 15 2006, 08:36 AM) mediaplex sells 'em? i first thought of mediaplex selling very-the-expensive branded stuffs... but come to think of it, we're talking about headphones that costs a few hundred... =.=" yeah my heaphone is from this shop... thanks akabane! they got lower end as well. |
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Jun 15 2006, 04:26 PM
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Getting my mobile PX200s in awhile, saving up for a PXC 300 later on for my LRT rides. Damn i hope my pay comes in fast.
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Jun 15 2006, 07:07 PM
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guys,
what do u guys think of HD600 & HD650? Does both of them sharing the same issue such as veil sound? |
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Jun 15 2006, 08:23 PM
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Heard that the HD600 is least veil than the HD650, pair it with a M^3 you would probably say "Yes, that's what I want!" and settled down for a long long time
EDIT: Wanna upgrade? Do consider Sr225 too since you familiar with Grado sound, usually Grado maniacs do climbing from Sr60 --> Sr225 --> Rs1, Alamaklor not even thinking return back to the dark side once he's in love with his Rs1 This post has been edited by GodLuvSxS: Jun 15 2006, 08:37 PM |
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Jun 15 2006, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 15 2006, 08:07 AM) guys, the difference is quite obvious but only in the sense that the hd600 is even more grainy than the 650 and the bass doesnt boom as much as the 650 yet maintaining the very bottom end. both are very veil imhowhat do u guys think of HD600 & HD650? Does both of them sharing the same issue such as veil sound? the sennheiser veil is not obvious unless u tried many other different phones. the grados will show the senn veil right away, at the time I compared the PX100 to the SR60 some time ago, I was already sold by the fact that the px100 is veil like hell. After I got the MS2i..the contradiction is even more significant. I didn't like either, so they both had to go. it was the K701 that replaced my 650, the RS-1 was simply a second child. |
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Jun 15 2006, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Jun 15 2006, 09:01 PM) the difference is quite obvious but only in the sense that the hd600 is even more grainy than the 650 and the bass doesnt boom as much as the 650 yet maintaining the very bottom end. both are very veil imho So still left two headphones lar?the sennheiser veil is not obvious unless u tried many other different phones. the grados will show the senn veil right away, at the time I compared the PX100 to the SR60 some time ago, I was already sold by the fact that the px100 is veil like hell. After I got the MS2i..the contradiction is even more significant. I didn't like either, so they both had to go. it was the K701 that replaced my 650, the RS-1 was simply a second child. |
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Jun 15 2006, 11:47 PM
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hey... i just called to ask on the HD280 Pro headphones... it cost about RM650 (she said will give special price if go and get it from her -> mediaplex, mid valley)... oh my goshh... although i'm doing music for fun, but i really not ready to spend hundreds on a "headphone" ler... but i don't have good headphone cannot produce nicely... dilemma... u guys' headphone cost how much ar? and use for wat?
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Jun 15 2006, 11:51 PM
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Ehh...hi guyz..would like to know normally u guyz plug ur headphone into your HIFI system or what?!
bcoz I'm curious to know one thing....if I plug it (Sennheiser) into my onboard soundcard....will the sound different??? any experienced user might to share yours?!? |
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Jun 16 2006, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(leng2 @ Jun 15 2006, 11:47 PM) hey... i just called to ask on the HD280 Pro headphones... it cost about RM650 (she said will give special price if go and get it from her -> mediaplex, mid valley)... oh my goshh... although i'm doing music for fun, but i really not ready to spend hundreds on a "headphone" ler... but i don't have good headphone cannot produce nicely... dilemma... u guys' headphone cost how much ar? and use for wat? rm650 only mid level,some forumers headphone cost 1k++. BTW, do not thrust mediaplex, their price is damm high. Try to buy online Buy Senn QUOTE Ehh...hi guyz..would like to know normally u guyz plug ur headphone into your HIFI system or what?! Depend on your sound card grade, bcoz I'm curious to know one thing....if I plug it (Sennheiser) into my onboard soundcard....will the sound different??? any experienced user might to share yours?!? Normal setup is : Sound card -> Headphone amp -> headphone. |
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Jun 16 2006, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(airbag_grado @ Jun 16 2006, 12:07 AM) rm650 only mid level,some forumers headphone cost 1k++. BTW, do not thrust mediaplex, their price is damm high. Try to buy online ahhhh...might to recommend me which headphone amp do u think it's good???Buy Senn Depend on your sound card grade, Normal setup is : Sound card -> Headphone amp -> headphone. |
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Jun 16 2006, 12:12 AM
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leng2,
u can go for a budget & very good sound from Philips hp890 or Hp895. Around RM200 from shopping mall. Eric, Different headphone apply different Ω to drive wif media player. Here are samples of some great sound headphone from this URL http://www.51erji.com/Article/ShowArticle.asp?ArticleID=13 Grado 325/32Ω (no need headamp) Senn HD600/300Ω (Need Headamp) Beyerdynamic DT831/250Ω (Reviewer said it is good oredi,strangely) AKG K501/120Ω (Need Headamp) The above article give some pretty interesting description on each headphone sound signature from 4 Big Brands. Now, i know how to promote the Grado sound much better in Chinese. |
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Jun 16 2006, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(eric84cool @ Jun 16 2006, 12:09 AM) ahhhh...might to recommend me which headphone amp do u think it's good??? Actually got lot amps available. From diy to branded one. Branded one cost few k.Perhaps you can go to bulk section to look for some goodbuy. If u can get hold of m3,ppav2, it would be great or you can go to litte dot bulk section, guys there is bulking this china brand tube amp. |
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Jun 16 2006, 07:47 AM
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get a Mini-EPH Amp lo, budget price lo
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Jun 16 2006, 07:53 AM
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what do u guys think bout hd555?
need an amp or not? the link site dun have rite now im just link in directly from source. |
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Jun 16 2006, 07:53 AM
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QUOTE(benQue @ Jun 16 2006, 07:53 AM) what do u guys think bout hd555? this one yes is need a head amp. need an amp or not? the link site dun have rite now im just link in directly from source. |
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Jun 16 2006, 08:29 AM
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i'm using mdr-v150 for my production use... i cannot tahan the inaccuracies of the headphone cuz what i do is not what i hear (on the monitors)... i mean i'm prepared to shell out 300 like that for an accurate headphone... but not like 650!!!
sorry... abit sian here... so shocked to know that price... btw, i am REALLY interested to know what u guys spend so much for the headphone for. |
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Jun 16 2006, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(leng2 @ Jun 16 2006, 08:29 AM) i'm using mdr-v150 for my production use... i cannot tahan the inaccuracies of the headphone cuz what i do is not what i hear (on the monitors)... i mean i'm prepared to shell out 300 like that for an accurate headphone... but not like 650!!! We treating it as hobby, sometimes hobby does burn some $$ sorry... abit sian here... so shocked to know that price... btw, i am REALLY interested to know what u guys spend so much for the headphone for. Being an audiophile is better than be alcoholic, computer hardware enthutiastic and car top speed maniac, It's safe and less money spent compare to those I mentioned Want some accurate headphone? Try AKG K240DF, heard that it's the most uncolored AKG headphone and it's 600ohm, mainly design for studio monitoring, K240M is another alternative ~~~ You should try these This post has been edited by GodLuvSxS: Jun 16 2006, 09:49 AM |
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Jun 16 2006, 09:56 AM
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*Don't forget more civilised and educated, if you going to live concert
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Jun 16 2006, 09:57 AM
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thanks for the two recommendation... can u gimme a rough estimate on their price as well?
btw, ur retriever want to let go for how much and how old is he? |
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Jun 16 2006, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(leng2 @ Jun 16 2006, 09:57 AM) thanks for the two recommendation... can u gimme a rough estimate on their price as well? K240df last time was going for lowest RM500, while K240m you can get it here for a barely used one or here for a new onebtw, ur retriever want to let go for how much and how old is he? OFFTOPIC: Oh ya I wanted to sell my puppy to fund my new headphone! hehe just joking, I just gotta sell it due to the reason I mentioned inside the thread ... He's a 8 weeks old smart little guy, negotiable till around RM850 COD in KL or IpohThis post has been edited by GodLuvSxS: Jun 16 2006, 10:21 AM |
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Jun 16 2006, 10:27 AM
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Just grabbed an unwanted gift -> K240M from my customer, today will passed back to him.
My Reason: Top secret. |
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Jun 16 2006, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 16 2006, 10:27 AM) Just grabbed an unwanted gift -> K240M from my customer, today will passed back to him. Top secret? My Reason: Top secret.  You got anything better to offer? Just introduce to us la |
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Jun 16 2006, 10:41 AM
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Top secret = flame bait.
Just keep it to myself Anything better? Stax? Hehe... I guess I will wasting my time selling Stax in Malaysia even I can get good price from Japan. Look at our buyers buying power and exposure to music reproduction you already know. |
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Jun 16 2006, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 16 2006, 10:41 AM) Top secret = flame bait. Then must be one of your product is better than this K240m, actually I thought of recomend leng2 go for HP1000 just that I'm not sure it's suitable for music producing or not, it's detail is way better than my HF-1 when amp with LDIII, soundstage is great and just the mid is recessed abit compare to it, I was thinking to do recable to make the mid greater, any idea? Oh ya, you did open the HP1000 before right? Me hand itchy peel off the thin layer paper to try how it sounds since mine had passed the warranty, the sound ends up too harsh, wondering what kind of paper material they are using, wanna paste the layer back Just keep it to myself Anything better? Stax? Hehe... I guess I will wasting my time selling Stax in Malaysia even I can get good price from Japan. Look at our buyers buying power and exposure to music reproduction you already know. |
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Jun 16 2006, 11:28 AM
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a few of my forum mates (who are also signed artistes) advised me not to get dj headphones as they're not meant for producers... i suppose they have their reasons as some of them are djs also...
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Jun 16 2006, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(leng2 @ Jun 16 2006, 11:28 AM) a few of my forum mates (who are also signed artistes) advised me not to get dj headphones as they're not meant for producers... i suppose they have their reasons as some of them are djs also... akg k240df,k240m are meant for professional studio monitoring. You will notice lot of musician and radio DJ use them. I saw wang Lihom use Akg too. |
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Jun 16 2006, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jun 16 2006, 11:02 AM) Then must be one of your product is better than this K240m, actually I thought of recomend leng2 go for HP1000 just that I'm not sure it's suitable for music producing or not, it's detail is way better than my HF-1 when amp with LDIII, soundstage is great and just the mid is recessed abit compare to it, I was thinking to do recable to make the mid greater, any idea? Oh ya, you did open the HP1000 before right? Me hand itchy peel off the thin layer paper to try how it sounds since mine had passed the warranty, the sound ends up too harsh, wondering what kind of paper material they are using, wanna paste the layer back Err hemm... no comment Thank you for your brave move experimenting by removed the tracing paper, I should avoid doing so on my HP1000. Did you remove the black cloth or the soft black spounge that siting inside the phone chamber? I have no idea how to put it back |
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Jun 16 2006, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(leng2 @ Jun 16 2006, 11:28 AM) a few of my forum mates (who are also signed artistes) advised me not to get dj headphones as they're not meant for producers... i suppose they have their reasons as some of them are djs also... Each type of headphones have their own characteristic to best work in their environment. DJs are not using DJ headphone then they must be joking themselves in their career. Any reason they are not using it? QUOTE(airbag_grado @ Jun 16 2006, 01:12 PM) akg k240df,k240m are meant for professional studio monitoring. You will notice lot of musician and radio DJ use them. I saw wang Lihom use Akg too. AKG have good marketing on selling their headphones are way below market price to the Pro Studio. You won't be surprice that 240 might be anytime cheaper than some of the Philips, Sennheiser or BeyerDynamic. |
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Jun 16 2006, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 16 2006, 02:29 PM) Err hemm... no comment I didnt remove the black cloth or the black spounge, the layer sounds to me it's the one which makes the sounds muffled, once remove it then I starting to feel regret, it's too harsh to my ears! I just have to find out what's tracing paper of and then DIY and put it back! I believe my baby could offer me much more, I'll keep on trying more tricks to get the best out of her Thank you for your brave move experimenting by removed the tracing paper, I should avoid doing so on my HP1000. Did you remove the black cloth or the soft black spounge that siting inside the phone chamber? I have no idea how to put it back |
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Jun 16 2006, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jun 16 2006, 02:56 PM) I didnt remove the black cloth or the black spounge, the layer sounds to me it's the one which makes the sounds muffled, once remove it then I starting to feel regret, it's too harsh to my ears! I just have to find out what's tracing paper of and then DIY and put it back! I believe my baby could offer me much more, I'll keep on trying more tricks to get the best out of her You can mimicking the Sennheiser HD650 design.Remove the black cloth, the black spounge and try out... expected result (in my mind ) might be the bass not that strong as original but the trebles will be clearer. Maybe you can put one resistor on the stereo plug |
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Jun 16 2006, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 16 2006, 09:56 AM) *Don't forget more civilised and educated, if you going to live concert I like to go concert can feel da beat... |
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Jun 17 2006, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 16 2006, 02:34 PM) DJs are not using DJ headphone then they must be joking themselves in their career. that is not always the case... trust me. what makes a dj headphone is they're able to produce strong, non-distorted bass kick... allowing nice beatmatching to be done. high end headphones on the other hand provide excellent acoustic isolation. yes, dj headphones are usually more solid built, but then again, it's not all... so, would you foul out the rule that djs never use a high end headphone for dj'ing?Any reason they are not using it? |
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jun 16 2006, 11:21 PM) I like to go concert can feel da beat... Just went. All the music damn nice in MPO Carmen, Divertissement, Bolero... fuiyo. The noice floor for the hall damn low. No resonance at all. QUOTE(leng2 @ Jun 17 2006, 12:31 AM) that is not always the case... trust me. what makes a dj headphone is they're able to produce strong, non-distorted bass kick... allowing nice beatmatching to be done. high end headphones on the other hand provide excellent acoustic isolation. yes, dj headphones are usually more solid built, but then again, it's not all... so, would you foul out the rule that djs never use a high end headphone for dj'ing? OK... let me try to find which DJs not using DJ headphones while they are performing mixing, except those sitting in the studio. Perhaps we can asking two DJs in this forum to give their comment. |
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Jun 17 2006, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 17 2006, 01:03 AM) Just went. All the music damn nice in MPO u also went MPO ah, ic....did u buy a whole year concert? or a special sunday concert?Carmen, Divertissement, Bolero... fuiyo. The noice floor for the hall damn low. No resonance at all. OK... let me try to find which DJs not using DJ headphones while they are performing mixing, except those sitting in the studio. Perhaps we can asking two DJs in this forum to give their comment. pretty nice man.... |
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Jun 17 2006, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 17 2006, 01:03 AM) The noice floor for the hall damn low. No resonance at all. What do you mean? Concert halls usually have up to 2 seconds of reverb time to allow sounds to bloom |
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Jun 17 2006, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jun 17 2006, 08:12 AM) u also went MPO ah, ic....did u buy a whole year concert? or a special sunday concert? Plannning now.. pretty nice man.... QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Jun 17 2006, 09:23 AM) What do you mean? Concert halls usually have up to 2 seconds of reverb time to allow sounds to bloom Hmm... is it? I went in the hall quite early during pretalk session. I just feel that nothing really resonance back even my foot steps. The whole atmosphere just quite like wearing noise cancellation earphone (not noice cancellation plugs). |
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Jun 17 2006, 11:59 AM
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HD595 and HD650 owner here..well frankly i think sennheiser quality is dropping and well i prefer Audio-Technica anytime..
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Jun 17 2006, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(^aMnESiA^ @ Jun 17 2006, 11:59 AM) HD595 and HD650 owner here..well frankly i think sennheiser quality is dropping and well i prefer Audio-Technica anytime.. which model audio-technica you using? |
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 17 2006, 11:29 AM) Plannning now.. Probably you can't feel it.Hmm... is it? I went in the hall quite early during pretalk session. I just feel that nothing really resonance back even my foot steps. The whole atmosphere just quite like wearing noise cancellation earphone (not noice cancellation plugs). |
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Jun 18 2006, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(mysticaldodo @ Jun 18 2006, 01:32 PM) Probably you can't feel it. I have that kind of sense when i in da hall. like a cancelling noise stage. |
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Jun 20 2006, 01:49 AM
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Hi,
I might be interested on the Stax SRS-3030 Classic System II (depends on the price). But alas, one or two guys alone will be far from being enough reason to bring the Stax in. QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 16 2006, 10:41 AM) Top secret = flame bait. Just keep it to myself Anything better? Stax? Hehe... I guess I will wasting my time selling Stax in Malaysia even I can get good price from Japan. Look at our buyers buying power and exposure to music reproduction you already know. |
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Jun 20 2006, 02:12 AM
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QUOTE(^aMnESiA^ @ Jun 17 2006, 11:59 AM) HD595 and HD650 owner here..well frankly i think sennheiser quality is dropping and well i prefer Audio-Technica anytime.. sennheiser quality is dropping? dude, make sure u have a high-end cd player if u want to get the full potential of HD650. |
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Jun 20 2006, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE(NoNaim @ Jun 20 2006, 02:12 AM) sennheiser quality is dropping? get one amp to boost out lo.... dude, make sure u have a high-end cd player if u want to get the full potential of HD650. |
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Jun 20 2006, 09:08 AM
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someone is selling px200 in the bulk session. RM 200 nia... thinking should i get it or not?
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Jun 20 2006, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(mysticaldodo @ Jun 18 2006, 01:32 PM) Probably you can't feel it. That is the quitest moment in my life QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jun 18 2006, 10:26 PM) I have that kind of sense when i in da hall. like a cancelling noise stage. Yes. Active Noise cancelling not passive noice cancelling. QUOTE(hasnul @ Jun 20 2006, 01:49 AM) Hi, Yes... that is the reason.I might be interested on the Stax SRS-3030 Classic System II (depends on the price). But alas, one or two guys alone will be far from being enough reason to bring the Stax in. QUOTE(ifer @ Jun 20 2006, 09:08 AM) someone is selling px200 in the bulk session. RM 200 nia... thinking should i get it or not? A free gift from Nokia selling at RM200 with one month warranty vs. 2 years warranty from Sennheiser priced at RM270 with free S&H. |
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Jun 20 2006, 12:28 PM
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lol Davis advertising again
But well hope reviews from Empire is good, then you will earn my money again LOL |
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Jun 20 2006, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Jun 20 2006, 12:28 PM) lol Davis advertising again He already received the item? But well hope reviews from Empire is good, then you will earn my money again LOLNot really. Just telling the facts like others buyer did given comment on the bulk sales |
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Jun 20 2006, 05:47 PM
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Anyone using the PMX70 sports headphone here? Would like to know the overall quality of it before I rush to get one.
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Jun 20 2006, 07:48 PM
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My Review of the Sennheiser PX200.
Forgive me if my standards are high, but going from the HD650 to the PX200 has an effect on my judgement. So don't take this review too seriously, i can't guarantee total lack of bias. First i'll go on my first impressions. The build is fairly solid and the quality seems good, although i believe the joints where the drivers meat the headband could be improved, looks a little flimy if you ask me. Besides that, the thing looks like it can really last. Plus the 3 dots for you to feel you way to putting on the headphones are a welcome edition. Next on is comfort. I have sensitive ears and skin, that's all i can say, and the likes of Sony, Koss and such have been thrown out the window due to this constraint. I don't enjoy audio when my skin flakes and bleeds, so SQ comes a close second. Putting them on, the pressure i guess is just right, seriously, i swear i love it. And the pads are soft without that tingly feeling i get when i put Grados such as the SR60 or any foam pads on my ears, plus it doesn't annoy as much. And i recall complaining about the flimsy joins, but their flexibility is welcome since it contours well with my fat head. Tighthening it up, it still didn't feel as bad as i expected, i guess its those soft pads on top of the headband lending some cushioning, and really it serves dual purposes, the headphones get a better grip on my noggin and it somewhat cushions movement noise. I shake tested the thing (head bobbing and daily movements simulated) and the headphone passes admirably. But there is catch, the cables aren't reinforced like the HD650s, so there is perceivable cable noise (noise caused by the cable scraping and hitting my body) during fast movement. Isolation First up is sound isolation i guess, and being supra-aural they do well attenuating outside noise and muffling it pretty well. My jury rigged test setup comprised of my PC, yes, my awesome 58dB dust buster vaccum cleaner of a rig which is out fitted with 3 12CM fans (9 watters), a 12CM blower and 2 8CM fans. Opening the side (which is soundmat insulated) reveal my rigs monstrous noise in all it's glory, massive wind noise with minimal bearing whine. Put the PX200s on and give or take i get a good attenuation of 7-10dB by my estimate and eliminates the bearing whine. Not too bad since these aren't PXCs. Sound Quality All tests are done on a 3G ipod to simulate working conditions. - Amp = Mikechai's Mini-EPH (Battery Gobbler) - Songs = Orchestral/OST (FLAC) - John Williams - March 1941 (Bass, Lower Midrange, Horns) - John Williams - Saving Private Ryan, Hymn to the Fallen (Percussion, Treble, Mids and Highs, voice and seperation) - John Williams - Empire23 strikes back, Imperial March (Bass, more Bass and even More Bass and some Horns too )- Songs = Pop - Moriyama Naotaro - Sakura (Vocals, mids) - REM - The Great Beyond (Mids, Highs) - Fatty-tan sings about Moot and Snacks (4chan crap) totally /b/ random stuff I guess you guy have been waiting for this. A word of caution, these babies sound much better amped, i don't know why, maybe it's some Sennheiser fetish, but they all sound better with amps. But we'll leave that till later. First off, first impression i get, pretty nasal (stuffy, thick and unfluid) when i need the dynamic range, but the bass is excellent i guess (typical Senns), but somewhat at the expense of the other ranges, but i found a quick cure, push the drivers abit back and leave a small port or opening (expose a small part of your ears) and that lets the excess sound out improving the other ranges but at the expense of isolation. Second impression i get, feck, teh Bass is tight, fluid and generally very good. No it isn't the fengtau bass you and i have come to hate, but it's refined and by my count is excellent for something so small, very punchy and hits home all the time, the Imperial March was satisfying and made me feel Darth Vaderish and Evil, which is a good effect Mids, Good but it ain't excellent, vocals are clear, soft and warm, nothing to shout about when i'm jamming metallica, but certainly good when i listen to the likes of REM, Moriyama Naotaro or the soft vocals of the London Voices. Laid back and sweet, the imagining is good, but soundstage feels enclosed. And no it isn't punchy, the PX200 punches like 8 year old School Girl, it's more slow than hard hitting. If i were to rate it, i'll say 85 out of 100. Minor flaws don't get in it's way, and it suits the music i love. Higs, hmmm, let's just say, it ain't that pretty, and seperation goes down to Whitechapel for a date with Jack the Ripper. The xylophone in John Williams Hymn to the fallen doesn't have the hit it has with the HD650 and totally loses it's seperation in this end of the spectrum, sounds like someone crapped on the instrument and it became all sticky plus the rolls off at the middle of the high end (or so i perceive). Veli baaaaad. 20 out of 100 for the highs. Remember when i talked about amping? Yes, for some reason, the mids max out magically for me and the highs become tolerable, and the bass seems to be on steriods but doesn't lose it's delicate touch. If you ask me if it needs amping, in my opinion if you need that extra 15 percent in quality with a 50 percent increase in weight, yes, go for it. But what it improves most is the highs, gives it seperation that's worth a damn, cleans it up and gives it a crisper tinge and makes it more listenable, no, doesn't make it first class, but it makes it merely bearable. After amping i would say i'd give the highs a 30-35 percent out of 100 score. Amping certainly ain't no magical panacea, but it sure as hell helps. So that's it for today, do post comments if you find anything wrong or wish to discuss this review. |
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Jun 20 2006, 08:23 PM
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empire23 :
yo man, where u get naotaro moriyama's album from? |
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Jun 20 2006, 08:49 PM
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wow guess it's rather good. Sounds better than HP895 too.. very tempting PX200
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Jun 20 2006, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(chernloon @ Jun 20 2006, 08:23 PM) empire23 : My Neighbour auntie Sasamori loved to play it on her piano, so i borrowed the CD and ripped it. All i have is a digital copy of that 1 song yo man, where u get naotaro moriyama's album from? QUOTE wow guess it's rather good. Sounds better than HP895 too.. very tempting PX200 Yeah i was quite suprised at it's quality. After i saw the "Powerful Bass" blurb on the box i was thinking, OH SHI. Feng Tau bass, but it really suprised me. It doesn't do too well with Pop due to it's lack of punch and without an amp it's high end is muddy and weak, other than that, i think it's a keeper. This post has been edited by empire23: Jun 20 2006, 09:30 PM |
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Jun 20 2006, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jun 20 2006, 09:22 PM) My Neighbour auntie Sasamori loved to play it on her piano, so i borrowed the CD and ripped it. All i have is a digital copy of that 1 song  auntie sasamori...japanese? i hav a japanese neighbour too, but never heard she (aunty as well) listen song  |
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Jun 20 2006, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(chernloon @ Jun 20 2006, 09:30 PM) auntie sasamori...japanese? i hav a japanese neighbour too, but never heard she (aunty as well) listen song |
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Jun 20 2006, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jun 20 2006, 09:37 PM) Yeah, Jap. But mine loves to play the songs on her piano, although she ain't no Machiko Uchida, she's pretty good and her daughter is very handy with the violin and i occasionally go over for "audiotions" wow, got opportunity sure will ask them for a pre-record their skill.... |
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Jun 20 2006, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jun 20 2006, 09:37 PM) Yeah, Jap. But mine loves to play the songs on her piano, although she ain't no Machiko Uchida, she's pretty good and her daughter is very handy with the violin and i occasionally go over for "audiotions" her daughter wana teach violin or not?still searchin for a violin teacher, and the most important, searchin for time to learn and practise  |
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Jun 21 2006, 12:22 AM
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chernloon,
wat do u think of HD650 vs AKG501? I am more like a rock/pop listener.. Which one u suggest to go for?! And how much is ur AKG 501.. thx man! This post has been edited by dinodog_Jr: Jun 21 2006, 12:23 AM |
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Jun 21 2006, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE(chernloon @ Jun 20 2006, 11:54 PM) her daughter wana teach violin or not? Daughter only 9 leh, the kind i babysit and take to Mcdonalds to pay see saw when mom is out still searchin for a violin teacher, and the most important, searchin for time to learn and practise but she still is an extremely good player for her age. |
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Jun 21 2006, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jun 21 2006, 01:35 AM) Daughter only 9 leh, the kind i babysit and take to Mcdonalds to pay see saw when mom is out ohhh..... but she still is an extremely good player for her age. |
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Jun 21 2006, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 21 2006, 12:22 AM) chernloon, rock listener..hmm..aint ur sr60 better with it? wat do u think of HD650 vs AKG501? I am more like a rock/pop listener.. Which one u suggest to go for?! And how much is ur AKG 501.. thx man! k501 is my budget phone..usd115 shipped from canada for a 6 hours+ used 1. and when i got it, OMG, shipment is CAD43, which mean the phone cost around usd70 only. for pop/vocal, k501 more forward while 650 vocal is surpressed. |
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Jun 21 2006, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 21 2006, 12:22 AM) chernloon, Slowly climb your grado ladder ... Next stop Sr225 or go grab the MS2i in garage sales wat do u think of HD650 vs AKG501? I am more like a rock/pop listener.. Which one u suggest to go for?! And how much is ur AKG 501.. thx man! |
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Jun 21 2006, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jun 21 2006, 09:31 AM) Slowly climb your grado ladder ... Next stop Sr225 or go grab the MS2i in garage sales sooner or later he will reach rs-1 |
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Jun 21 2006, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(chernloon @ Jun 21 2006, 10:06 AM) sooner or later he will reach rs-1 Once he's unsettled with his Sr60, I know the day may come very soon |
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Jun 21 2006, 12:26 PM
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haha...i know i will go for RS-1 in near future~~ This forum is poisoning me so horribly.
In fact, i am a person still like wider soundstage listening more than forward music. I think AKG got the bright sound signature(yet stronger like Grado) mix wif wider soundstage of Sennheiser. This is after a couple of reviews i read at head-fi & taiwan forum. Dunno such theory can apply into ur guys observation?! This post has been edited by dinodog_Jr: Jun 21 2006, 12:26 PM |
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Jun 21 2006, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 21 2006, 12:26 PM) haha...i know i will go for RS-1 in near future~~ This forum is poisoning me so horribly. u wan grado + wide soundstage....prepare to splash usd1k for GS-1000 In fact, i am a person still like wider soundstage listening more than forward music. I think AKG got the bright sound signature(yet stronger like Grado) mix wif wider soundstage of Sennheiser. This is after a couple of reviews i read at head-fi & taiwan forum. Dunno such theory can apply into ur guys observation?! as its claimed to hav the widest soundstage ATM |
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Jun 21 2006, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 21 2006, 12:26 PM) haha...i know i will go for RS-1 in near future~~ This forum is poisoning me so horribly. forget about the RS-1 if u want wider soundstage...even the senn hd595 can beat the RS-1 in this criteria...IMHO...In fact, i am a person still like wider soundstage listening more than forward music. I think AKG got the bright sound signature(yet stronger like Grado) mix wif wider soundstage of Sennheiser. This is after a couple of reviews i read at head-fi & taiwan forum. Dunno such theory can apply into ur guys observation?! Cheers |
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Jun 21 2006, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 21 2006, 12:26 PM) haha...i know i will go for RS-1 in near future~~ This forum is poisoning me so horribly. Or you may try Beyerdynamic, the new version DT990 seems to be a warmer and laid back of DT880 with wider soundstage and more quality lower range ~~~In fact, i am a person still like wider soundstage listening more than forward music. I think AKG got the bright sound signature(yet stronger like Grado) mix wif wider soundstage of Sennheiser. This is after a couple of reviews i read at head-fi & taiwan forum. Dunno such theory can apply into ur guys observation?! Another suggestion is grab the HD600 in garage sales, later pairing it with silver cable to tighten the so-called veil sound, and the final step get yourself a warm solid state amp like M^3 ... there goes your good combo |
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Jun 21 2006, 05:20 PM
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Chernloon.
u funny dude... GS1000... dun like dat man.. jigon, Dat's why i will leave RS1 alone for this very reason. God, BD DT990 over RM2000 oredi..gosh..Perhaps we got davis to bring it in wif cheaper price. Yea i did came across the 2nd hand HD600 in the garage sales. I hope Davis will bring it HD600 instead. Yesterday i oso came across such discussion bout HD600 recabling wif Zu cable(No idea bout Zu is..) After dat the HD600 sound would be closer to HD650. Anyway, wondering how many years for another sennheiser high-end headphone will be announce? eg. HD700?! ..haha.. p/s: Just now i am listening to audiophile song from Eva Cassidy's 'What a wonderful world'. I think der is an echo sound from the singing which i cannot hear in my SR60. Perhaps wider soundstage will be allow to hear a *longer* echo sound?! Or i should use "surround" sound. |
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Jun 21 2006, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 21 2006, 05:20 PM) Yesterday i oso came across such discussion bout HD600 recabling wif Zu cable(No idea bout Zu is..) After dat the HD600 sound would be closer to HD650. Leave the Zu cable out of the equation until you've heard the sound of the HD600 and HD650 for yourself.. you might be surprised some people like the HD600 more  |
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Jun 21 2006, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 21 2006, 05:20 PM) God, Oh ... let me come spread u some poison, click here and hereBD DT990 over RM2000 oredi..gosh..Perhaps we got davis to bring it in wif cheaper price. Yea i did came across the 2nd hand HD600 in the garage sales. I hope Davis will bring it HD600 instead. emm ... enough poison? ah .. ha ... ha, here comes the biggest one, click here and don't blame me Gosh, i'm full of sin today ... no more poisoning, d*mn it!EDIT: one more to KO you, please click here This post has been edited by GodLuvSxS: Jun 21 2006, 05:40 PM |
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Jun 21 2006, 06:34 PM
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Yeah alot of ppl suggested popish music stick to Hd600. Classical would be HD650.
Anway, God.. I just finished every link u gave me.thx alot of ur poison. My remedy would be-........... I wanna walk in the sky.~~!! hehe.. now u know which model grab my mind mostly after the comparison. They are alot of similar statement sharing around forums against HD650. Some ppl said AKG701 sounds boring & dry at its first listening. Need to burn quite long time to blossom. (i still cannot *feel* the beyer power..Anyway the headphone design is the sweetest amongst these kings) |
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Jun 21 2006, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 21 2006, 06:34 PM) Yeah alot of ppl suggested popish music stick to Hd600. Classical would be HD650. K701 would be nice too ~~~ I'm going the Beyer route once I got the moolah , the review is too good to be ignore Anway, God.. I just finished every link u gave me.thx alot of ur poison. My remedy would be-........... I wanna walk in the sky.~~!! hehe.. now u know which model grab my mind mostly after the comparison. They are alot of similar statement sharing around forums against HD650. Some ppl said AKG701 sounds boring & dry at its first listening. Need to burn quite long time to blossom. (i still cannot *feel* the beyer power..Anyway the headphone design is the sweetest amongst these kings) Your grado Sr60 been serving you for long enough, it's time for him to retire |
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Jun 21 2006, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE JABEN NETWORK alrite pips. a recent trip downtown singapore during pc show 06 (yeah, i know, lame name for a pc fair) revealed a wonderful high-end portable audio shack. 1 COLEMAN STREET, 04-16 THE ADELPHI, SINGAPORE 179803, T: 6337-0809 F: 6337-0809 E: ADELPHI@JABEN.NET PERSONNELS: WILSON, DAVID, GABRIEL gabriel was kind enough to let me sample RS-1 (w/o his boss knowledge - of course) and quoted me a price of SGD1050 if i were to take it that very second. they stock Senn, AKG, Beyerdynamics, Allessandro (Grado Labs punya jugak), Grado and such they also have a wide range of headphone amp i am not their affiliate nor do i gain any profit but it's a nice shack if u wanna sample out some high end phones before purchasing This post has been edited by lucifah: Jun 21 2006, 06:53 PM |
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Jun 21 2006, 09:05 PM
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I have just discovered that Sennheisers at even better to put on if you're bald and they feel even more comfortable than ever. Although you kind of give up your hair
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Jun 21 2006, 09:51 PM
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lucifah,
so, haf to make a date to test headphones at SG?! Anyway SG1050 of RS1 is good price. I read from Sgheadphone forum which cost SG1200. empire23, U just had a skinhead?haha.. |
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Jun 22 2006, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jun 21 2006, 06:52 PM) alrite pips. a recent trip downtown singapore during pc show 06 (yeah, i know, lame name for a pc fair) revealed a wonderful high-end portable audio shack. Ask them to come over to exhibit in KL AV fair gabriel was kind enough to let me sample RS-1 (w/o his boss knowledge - of course) and quoted me a price of SGD1050 if i were to take it that very second. they stock Senn, AKG, Beyerdynamics, Allessandro (Grado Labs punya jugak), Grado and such they also have a wide range of headphone amp i am not their affiliate nor do i gain any profit but it's a nice shack if u wanna sample out some high end phones before purchasing and lyn headier all go to try out and show kl dealers they are missing the market they ignore. This post has been edited by airbag_grado: Jun 22 2006, 01:06 AM |
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Jun 22 2006, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 21 2006, 09:51 PM) empire23, Near Balness is superior for critical listening since, the brushing of hair creates noise, itch and dandruff for me, plus when my sideburns get too long they tend to ruin my listening experience. U just had a skinhead?haha..  |
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Jun 22 2006, 06:21 AM
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jun 21 2006, 06:52 PM) alrite pips. a recent trip downtown singapore during pc show 06 (yeah, i know, lame name for a pc fair) revealed a wonderful high-end portable audio shack. I went over their booth to during PC Show, but never got to listen to RS-1 gabriel was kind enough to let me sample RS-1 (w/o his boss knowledge - of course) and quoted me a price of SGD1050 if i were to take it that very second. they stock Senn, AKG, Beyerdynamics, Allessandro (Grado Labs punya jugak), Grado and such they also have a wide range of headphone amp i am not their affiliate nor do i gain any profit but it's a nice shack if u wanna sample out some high end phones before purchasing . Well that place is noisy.. |
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Jun 22 2006, 07:56 AM
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dino, you interested sennheiser liao ah. Good to explore....
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Jun 22 2006, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(airbag_grado @ Jun 22 2006, 01:04 AM) Ask them to come over to exhibit in KL AV fair I would dream to open a headphone store selling Sennheiser, Grado, AKG and Beyerdynamic ~~~ then incorperate with some DIYer building some head amp for my business and lyn headier all go to try out and show kl dealers they are missing the market they ignore. But I got to start with low and mid budget headphone first Grado ==== Sr60 (Introduction) Sr225 (Entry) AKG === K26p & K18dj (Portable) K501 (Nice for new age music) Sennheiser ======= PX100 & PMX100 (Portable) HD555, HD595 & HD580 (Nice mid level) Guess what ~~~ then putting some high level cans for poisoning, DT880, K701, HD650, RS1 & etc Anyone here wanna invest into my planning? This post has been edited by GodLuvSxS: Jun 22 2006, 10:21 AM |
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Jun 22 2006, 10:10 AM
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GodLuvSxS:
or u wana hire the headphone owners (pay per trip) to exhibit their cans at ur store? lol This post has been edited by chernloon: Jun 22 2006, 10:11 AM |
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Jun 22 2006, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(chernloon @ Jun 22 2006, 10:10 AM) GodLuvSxS: Would like to coorperate with you producing head amp instead or u wana hire the headphone owners (pay per trip) to exhibit their cans at ur store? lol I believe that would be a heaven for all headfier out there ... There's where we could do gathering all the time |
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jun 22 2006, 09:53 AM) I would dream to open a headphone store selling Sennheiser, Grado, AKG and Beyerdynamic ~~~ then incorperate with some DIYer building some head amp for my business There are 3 HiFi shops and myself want to invest to open a Head-Fi shop, after some business simulation & discussions, buyers education and market structure. Opening a Head-FI shop in Malaysia either in prime area or less running cost area sure it will fail.But I got to start with low and mid budget headphone first Grado ==== Sr60 (Introduction) Sr225 (Entry) AKG === K26p & K18dj (Portable) K501 (Nice for new age music) Sennheiser ======= PX100 & PMX100 (Portable) HD555, HD595 & HD580 (Nice mid level) Guess what ~~~ then putting some high level cans for poisoning, DT880, K701, HD650, RS1 & etc Anyone here wanna invest into my planning? |
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Jun 22 2006, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jun 22 2006, 01:22 AM) Near Balness is superior for critical listening since, the brushing of hair creates noise, itch and dandruff for me, plus when my sideburns get too long they tend to ruin my listening experience. Considered changing your shampoo? |
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Jun 22 2006, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jun 22 2006, 09:53 AM) I would dream to open a headphone store selling Sennheiser, Grado, AKG and Beyerdynamic ~~~ then incorperate with some DIYer building some head amp for my business make sure you also host an "annual head-fi meet" and offer discounts on that particular day. It'll be fun to meet up with people of the same interests But I got to start with low and mid budget headphone first Grado ==== Sr60 (Introduction) Sr225 (Entry) AKG === K26p & K18dj (Portable) K501 (Nice for new age music) Sennheiser ======= PX100 & PMX100 (Portable) HD555, HD595 & HD580 (Nice mid level) Guess what ~~~ then putting some high level cans for poisoning, DT880, K701, HD650, RS1 & etc Anyone here wanna invest into my planning? This post has been edited by LittleGhost: Jun 22 2006, 12:00 PM |
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Jun 22 2006, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(mysticaldodo @ Jun 22 2006, 11:32 AM) Considered changing your shampoo? I'm using Selsun 5 percent selenium suspension, it's hard to go more hardcore than that lol, unless i use Nizoral but that stuff is expensive. |
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Jun 22 2006, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jun 22 2006, 09:53 AM) I would dream to open a headphone store selling Sennheiser, Grado, AKG and Beyerdynamic ~~~ then incorperate with some DIYer building some head amp for my business Frankly I don't think there is enough interest in the general public for a shop like that to survive, maybe you can do something like mikechai's business instead, just bring in headphones by bulk.But I got to start with low and mid budget headphone first Grado ==== Sr60 (Introduction) Sr225 (Entry) AKG === K26p & K18dj (Portable) K501 (Nice for new age music) Sennheiser ======= PX100 & PMX100 (Portable) HD555, HD595 & HD580 (Nice mid level) Guess what ~~~ then putting some high level cans for poisoning, DT880, K701, HD650, RS1 & etc Anyone here wanna invest into my planning? |
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Jun 22 2006, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 22 2006, 10:26 AM) There are 3 HiFi shops and myself want to invest to open a Head-Fi shop, after some business simulation & discussions, buyers education and market structure. Opening a Head-FI shop in Malaysia either in prime area or less running cost area sure it will fail. let me know ur shop if u success...then easy to get from u lo This post has been edited by Akabane@DrJackel: Jun 22 2006, 12:46 PM |
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Jun 22 2006, 12:51 PM
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empire,
nice haircut man.. looks like the England Rooney hairstyle..hehe.. issit senn headcan not allow to turn a little to match the ear's construction? (I dun like headcan which is deadly lock.) akabane, I had just selected AKG701 to my Top selection list. Senn would be my after choice. Anyway, final conclusion would be make after I audition all of em. God, Go on wif dat plan. I will come to pay a visit on shop. It would be nice to haf randomly mini gathering. . And give us ultimate discount on high end headphone ler... Maybe u can consider Trade in headphone/speakers business oso. i agree on Davis on his points. It is not easy to maintain such business somemore Headphone is quite an extra hobby. Mostly youngster would spent more into handphone. Older ppl will spent into HiFi system. Anyway, if do it for Hobby or freetime to break. why not?! (u can bring it every brand flagship model..If ppl wan baru make order.) |
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Jun 22 2006, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jun 22 2006, 09:53 AM) I would dream to open a headphone store selling Sennheiser, Grado, AKG and Beyerdynamic ~~~ then incorperate with some DIYer building some head amp for my business Are u serious? But I got to start with low and mid budget headphone first Grado ==== Sr60 (Introduction) Sr225 (Entry) AKG === K26p & K18dj (Portable) K501 (Nice for new age music) Sennheiser ======= PX100 & PMX100 (Portable) HD555, HD595 & HD580 (Nice mid level) Guess what ~~~ then putting some high level cans for poisoning, DT880, K701, HD650, RS1 & etc Anyone here wanna invest into my planning? . Be a sponsor in lowyat then, open a subforum for your shop for Q&A.This post has been edited by airbag_grado: Jun 22 2006, 01:00 PM |
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Jun 22 2006, 01:15 PM
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Anyone used or know of the Sennheiser IE4 In-Ear Monitors Earphone? Are they good?Or is it basically a CX300 or somethin?
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Jun 22 2006, 02:36 PM
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Actually i'm quite keen on openning a head-fi shop ~~~ but as DAViS mentioned the buyer education would be the main problem there, they rather spend over thousand on the handphone that would only last them for 1 year, music to them just some nice rythm with one singing them, never appreciate and actually feel & taste what the music suppose to be
If I could remember clear enough, Alamaklor used to be one of those who spent over thousand on handphone and he felt d*mn regret for being so foolish |
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Jun 22 2006, 05:47 PM
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haha....poor alamaklor.
I was another innocent kid once keen on pdaphone (somemore). In fact, both of these still a money burning hobby. Just the headphone value won't cease like a sand in few years. Dat's why it seems like a "profitable" hobby. Many would say why spent over thousand on a headphone instead of a hifi system. Too many walls to built for the others. Just set up ur own walls. You are the one holding the principles. Open a subforum shop, see how is the respond from here. |
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Jun 23 2006, 12:44 AM
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Yeah i agree with dinodog as there is still a certain amount of ppl who is willing to spend money to get some good and decent sound And bringing in hi end phones from overseas would cost a bomb in the delivery part. If there is a local dealer, it'll be much easier for us, although im not in malaysia most of the time |
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Jun 23 2006, 12:50 AM
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Actually, u could stretch your budget abit, DT880, and all those that are around that range are like ~USD$200 range, so should be quite okay!
If you do open a subforum shop, do remember to tell me, I'll help out if I can! |
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Jun 23 2006, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE(kenlui @ Jun 23 2006, 12:44 AM) Yeah i agree with dinodog as there is still a certain amount of ppl who is willing to spend money to get some good and decent sound you are not quite right, local dealer price still higher. most of the time they know nothing about what they are selling, so cant really give u any recommedation on what headamp. so benefit only is claiming for waranty is much more easier. so why pay more since they dun have the know how.And bringing in hi end phones from overseas would cost a bomb in the delivery part. If there is a local dealer, it'll be much easier for us, although im not in malaysia most of the time This post has been edited by airbag_grado: Jun 23 2006, 01:03 AM |
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Jun 23 2006, 07:52 AM
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guys, it time to upgrade ur headphones......
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Jun 23 2006, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(kenlui @ Jun 23 2006, 12:44 AM) Yeah i agree with dinodog as there is still a certain amount of ppl who is willing to spend money to get some good and decent sound except grado (from music by design), other brands like senn (mediaplex), akg(asiasound), and even worse, beyer (no distro And bringing in hi end phones from overseas would cost a bomb in the delivery part. If there is a local dealer, it'll be much easier for us, although im not in malaysia most of the time  ), get it from TTVJ + shipping is still cheaper |
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Jun 23 2006, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(airbag_grado @ Jun 22 2006, 02:01 PM) you are not quite right, local dealer price still higher. most of the time they know nothing about what they are selling, so cant really give u any recommedation on what headamp. so benefit only is claiming for waranty is much more easier. so why pay more since they dun have the know how. do take into account that it depends on how much more you are paying. imagine buying something like the RS-1 for 1800 rm online as oppose to RM2000 locally..if anything happens...you need to fork out at least RM100 or more for shipping to get RMA, and you will have to go through a two way risk of lost in transit..as well as customs intervention. (although if you had kept the receipt then you can claim warranty replacement) it all depends on the hassles and the risk you are willing to take, most of the time i buy online though, but this is because the price is ALOT cheaper than if i had to buy locally...that's the only reason why i'd buy online. you wouldnt want a RM2000 investment to end up like ur LD3 |
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Jun 23 2006, 09:19 AM
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lol...don think those 2 spoilt-ld3 owner gona get china audio product again in the near future
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Jun 23 2006, 10:29 AM
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alamaklor has a point. i would rather pay the additional RM 200 for the less hassel.
sure, RM 200 is alot of money, but what if it's lost in transaction? or someone in pos malaysia opened it up for routine check and he/she was an audiophiler and took it and put it in his/her bag. imagine all the hassel |
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Jun 23 2006, 10:42 AM
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The theory is true. But normally it's not only RM200 difference but absurd amount of RM500 or more. Some people would rather take the risk to have his/her dream audiophile items than to fork up a much bigger amount of cash.
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Jun 23 2006, 10:46 AM
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well yeah, if it's rm500 i'd get it online that's what i'd say "alot" cheaper.
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Jun 23 2006, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Jun 23 2006, 10:46 AM) well yeah, if it's rm500 i'd get it online that's what i'd say "alot" cheaper. GodLuvSxS come to rescue with his new shop ho...ho...furthermore in KL, you can get Senn,Grado,AKG easily(at least their top model is available). For Beyer, ATH,STAX, Ety,shure,UE,.... hardly see. Yeap, i'm ignoring those only bring in low end model or obselete models. This post has been edited by airbag_grado: Jun 23 2006, 01:31 PM |
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Jun 23 2006, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(airbag_grado @ Jun 23 2006, 10:51 AM) GodLuvSxS come to rescue with his new shop ho...ho... not in da market ler, malaysia not much people effort to buy.... furthermore in KL, you can get Senn,Grado,AKG easily(at least their top model is available). For Beyer, ATH,STAX, Ety,shure,UE,.... hardly see. Yeap, i'm ignoring those only bring in low end model or obselete models. |
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Jun 25 2006, 10:15 AM
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ok, go back to Sennheiser Headphones Topic....anybody can share some review here and a very interesting issue about this headphones...
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Jun 26 2006, 03:13 PM
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Anybody know if anywhere sells HD202? If so how much?Is it commonly available?coz im on a tight budget and 202 seems to be not bad and cheaper
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Jun 27 2006, 03:17 AM
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hey guys, wanna ask, is there a big difference between the hd555 and hd595?
and what kinda music suit which headphone? the hd595 comes with a stand right? hehe |
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Jun 27 2006, 03:46 AM
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too bad that i've never heard of the 595 and it's not sold locally, msot comments from head-fi says that the difference aint huge...similar to the sony SA1k and SA5k.
all the newed 5x5 comes with a table clip (not really a stand) |
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Jun 27 2006, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Jun 27 2006, 03:46 AM) too bad that i've never heard of the 595 and it's not sold locally, msot comments from head-fi says that the difference aint huge...similar to the sony SA1k and SA5k. Is quite good liao they provided da table clip... all the newed 5x5 comes with a table clip (not really a stand) |
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Jun 27 2006, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Jun 27 2006, 03:46 AM) too bad that i've never heard of the 595 and it's not sold locally, msot comments from head-fi says that the difference aint huge...similar to the sony SA1k and SA5k. the hd555 don provide any clip or stand right?all the newed 5x5 comes with a table clip (not really a stand) what about the sr80 and hd555? is there any difference? This post has been edited by coolfella: Jun 27 2006, 11:28 AM |
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Jun 27 2006, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(coolfella @ Jun 27 2006, 11:25 AM) the hd555 don provide any clip or stand right? They are of different sound signatures... I don't know why you want to compare them just from our reviews. But I would suggest that you go and audition with your own ears.what about the sr80 and hd555? is there any difference? |
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Jun 27 2006, 11:40 PM
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which model should i get for all sorta music??
jazz..rap...hiphop...pop...ballad...acoustic....yada yada.... |
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Jun 28 2006, 12:43 AM
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when i said 5x5, i meant 555/595. so yes, the 555 comes with a table clip. it depends on the batches. the 5x5 that i bought some time ago didnt come with a table clip, but someone else who bought it online came with a clip.
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Jun 28 2006, 01:53 AM
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alright then.
anyone knows where can i audition them? where can i get them? and where can i get them in Singapore? |
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Jun 28 2006, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Jun 28 2006, 12:43 AM) when i said 5x5, i meant 555/595. so yes, the 555 comes with a table clip. it depends on the batches. the 5x5 that i bought some time ago didnt come with a table clip, but someone else who bought it online came with a clip. it seem they add a bonus item to the box.... |
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Jun 28 2006, 10:15 AM
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yup, they added it after a little while...and that thing aint cheap..i think they are run for USD20-30 if you bought it from sennheiser or other dealers.
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Jun 28 2006, 02:37 PM
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seems that davis is selling the old hd 555 stock.
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Jun 28 2006, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(benQue @ Jun 28 2006, 02:37 PM) seems that davis is selling the old hd 555 stock. really? how much? |
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Jun 28 2006, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(mysticaldodo @ Jun 28 2006, 07:26 PM) really? how much? 450$ if im not mistaken. |
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Jun 28 2006, 10:04 PM
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I am selling old Sennheiser? Any of the owner of HD555 mind to clarifty with this? Please check the manufacturer date.
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Jun 28 2006, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 28 2006, 10:04 PM) I am selling old Sennheiser? Any of the owner of HD555 mind to clarifty with this? Please check the manufacturer date. well, they say the new batch comes with the headphone holder like 595.correct me if i was wrong. |
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Jun 28 2006, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(benQue @ Jun 28 2006, 11:04 PM) well, they say the new batch comes with the headphone holder like 595. that one is not a old stock ler, just add a bouns for a new package lo....correct me if i was wrong. |
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Jun 28 2006, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(benQue @ Jun 28 2006, 11:04 PM) well, they say the new batch comes with the headphone holder like 595. Who are they?correct me if i was wrong. |
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Jun 29 2006, 08:19 AM
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Davis, get mad liao...
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Jun 29 2006, 08:37 AM
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possible in bring in hd515 model?
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Jun 29 2006, 10:29 AM
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 Is the Senheiser PC150 any good? wats te price like? and where do you guys buy your Senheiser Headphones. cheers |
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Jun 29 2006, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jun 29 2006, 08:19 AM) Davis, get mad liao... If talking something doesn't exist, I will not tolerate. QUOTE(earthkid @ Jun 29 2006, 08:37 AM) possible in bring in hd515 model? May be somebody can bring in. QUOTE(hydrogen @ Jun 29 2006, 10:29 AM) Is the Senheiser PC150 any good? wats te price like? and where do you guys buy your Senheiser Headphones. cheers .I hate those asking to bring in but never turn up. Wind-talker!. Finally sold the one dozen unit pack. to external member. If not my wallet would bang a big hole. |
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Jun 29 2006, 02:22 PM
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waited pretty long for someone to do the bulk...but.... sigh~
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Jun 29 2006, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 29 2006, 10:38 AM) If talking something doesn't exist, I will not tolerate. May be somebody can bring in. PC150 quite a good price, did an order for a LYN member but he FFK. .I hate those asking to bring in but never turn up. Wind-talker!. Finally sold the one dozen unit pack. to external member. If not my wallet would bang a big hole. |
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Jun 29 2006, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(earthkid @ Jun 29 2006, 02:22 PM) waited pretty long for someone to do the bulk...but.... sigh~ Wat bulk u r waiting for?Davis got simply attractive price comparing to the Mediaplex in KL.. Go ask any model u wan in dat shop & refer to the price here. U will be shock~.. |
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Jun 29 2006, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(hydrogen @ Jun 29 2006, 04:58 PM) so wats the price? you din answer tat. thanks! I don't think he has stock or is going to bring in anymore.This post has been edited by Renovatio: Jun 29 2006, 05:11 PM |
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Jun 29 2006, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jun 28 2006, 11:50 PM) Who are they? well, just browse a few pages back.alamaklor i think. |
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Jun 29 2006, 10:34 PM
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don say is da old stock lar, it just only da table clip....
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Jun 29 2006, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Jun 28 2006, 12:43 AM) when i said 5x5, i meant 555/595. so yes, the 555 comes with a table clip. it depends on the batches. the 5x5 that i bought some time ago didnt come with a table clip, but someone else who bought it online came with a clip. QUOTE(benQue @ Jun 28 2006, 02:37 PM) seems that davis is selling the old hd 555 stock. QUOTE(benQue @ Jun 29 2006, 05:23 PM) well, just browse a few pages back. @benque :alamaklor i think. alamak just said his 5x5 batch doesn have the clip, and its u who say davis 1 is old hd555 stock |
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Jun 29 2006, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(chernloon @ Jun 29 2006, 10:43 PM) @benque : plz read the quote statement again. alamak just said his 5x5 batch doesn have the clip, and its u who say davis 1 is old hd555 stock |
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Jun 30 2006, 02:25 AM
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some 555 comes with table clip, some don't. Can't recall if it's a bonus or whatnot, but im sure I saw the same place I bought my 555 some time ago selling 555 with table clip a few weeks back.
EDIT: just to clarify a little bit more. Old version of the 555 and 595 are rated 120ohm (discontinued), newer ones are all 50ohms, changes was made about a year ago i believe, I think none of them comes with table clip back then. The 555 i bought was 50ohm without table clip. New 595 comes with table clip and is written on senn's site. some 555 comes with table clip as well. I believe both the limited edition blue 555 and red 595 also comes with table clip. This post has been edited by AlamakLor: Jun 30 2006, 02:37 AM |
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Jun 30 2006, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Jun 30 2006, 02:25 AM) some 555 comes with table clip, some don't. Can't recall if it's a bonus or whatnot, but im sure I saw the same place I bought my 555 some time ago selling 555 with table clip a few weeks back. i think is certain period only this bonus and limited item.. EDIT: just to clarify a little bit more. Old version of the 555 and 595 are rated 120ohm (discontinued), newer ones are all 50ohms, changes was made about a year ago i believe, I think none of them comes with table clip back then. The 555 i bought was 50ohm without table clip. New 595 comes with table clip and is written on senn's site. some 555 comes with table clip as well. I believe both the limited edition blue 555 and red 595 also comes with table clip. |
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Jun 30 2006, 12:50 PM
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How is this table clip looks like? Sounds like an interesting goodies.
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Jun 30 2006, 02:06 PM
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it's a good thing to have, very handy headphone holder that's not too big of a size. Can use it on almost any table/furniture edges
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Jun 30 2006, 02:15 PM
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You just gotta make sure u got something thats not too thick for it to clamp on
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Jun 30 2006, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Jun 30 2006, 02:15 PM) You just gotta make sure u got something thats not too thick for it to clamp on well it's adjustable, can go up to 4 inch thick of table edge... IMO that's big enough for any type of commercial table you can find in the market. |
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Jun 30 2006, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Jun 30 2006, 03:02 PM) well it's adjustable, can go up to 4 inch thick of table edge... IMO that's big enough for any type of commercial table you can find in the market. i just clip to my computer table hehe.... |
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Jul 1 2006, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Jun 30 2006, 03:02 PM) well it's adjustable, can go up to 4 inch thick of table edge... IMO that's big enough for any type of commercial table you can find in the market. Exactly, any/most tables aroundBut not everyone wants to have a stand at the edge of the table I would rather not have mine where it is right now if it wasnt a clamp style |
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Jul 1 2006, 07:11 AM
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My 555 didn't come with the table clip. Looks like mine were the same batch as alamak and geminist.. we bought it almost the same time. |
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Jul 1 2006, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jun 29 2006, 05:06 PM) Wat bulk u r waiting for? yeah..davis has replied me on that, he's not bringing in that model..and i simply can't find it in singapore...guess probably this is destined for me to get the HD555...Davis got simply attractive price comparing to the Mediaplex in KL.. Go ask any model u wan in dat shop & refer to the price here. U will be shock~.. |
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Jul 1 2006, 12:56 PM
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earth kid,
U can try to ask around in SGheadphones forum. Dat forum got a few SG Head-fi shop's owners replying & helping forumers's questions. I found one shop would offer SG600 for AKG701 & HD650. |
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Jul 1 2006, 09:38 PM
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Singapore is too many choice we can get ler...malaysia still not that much....
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Jul 1 2006, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jul 1 2006, 09:38 PM) Singapore is too many choice we can get ler...malaysia still not that much.... this is the different between 1st world country and third world country and us usually more expensive in every prodouts relate to audio like cd.This post has been edited by airbag_grado: Jul 1 2006, 10:03 PM |
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Jul 1 2006, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(airbag_grado @ Jul 1 2006, 09:55 PM) this is the different between 1st world country and third world country and us usually more expensive in every prodouts relate to audio like cd. i agreed with your statement here. Malaysia is really no market in this type of hifi stuff.... |
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Jul 4 2006, 08:03 AM
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Anyone here is using modd version of sennheiser here? (like diy your cable?) maybe can post in here..give some review...
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Jul 6 2006, 11:37 AM
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Just bought MX500 (White), how long does the "burn in" hours needed for it cause I notice the treble sounds a little harsh and bass a bit low. Anyone using MX500, please comment. Thanks |
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Jul 6 2006, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(raoul @ Jul 6 2006, 11:37 AM) Just bought MX500 (White), how long does the "burn in" hours needed for it cause I notice the treble sounds a little harsh and bass a bit low. At least 3 months and don blast it to max will spoil da drive.Anyone using MX500, please comment. Thanks |
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Jul 6 2006, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jul 6 2006, 12:55 PM) At least 3 months and don blast it to max will spoil da drive. Read his question again. 3 months is like 2160 hours I doubt anything would need THAT much breaking in. |
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Jul 6 2006, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Jul 6 2006, 01:02 PM) Read his question again. 3 months is not long liao, according to headphones specialist is at least a year.3 months is like 2160 hours I doubt anything would need THAT much breaking in. |
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Jul 6 2006, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jul 6 2006, 01:08 PM) 3 months is not long liao, according to headphones specialist is at least a year. At least a year is a joke. Who is the headphone specialist? |
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Jul 6 2006, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(raoul @ Jul 6 2006, 11:37 AM) Just bought MX500 (White), how long does the "burn in" hours needed for it cause I notice the treble sounds a little harsh and bass a bit low. If you hear no differences after 3 hours, that's how it will sound like for eternity. And yes, I own a MX500 (which comes bundled with my iRiver T10)Anyone using MX500, please comment. Thanks |
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Jul 6 2006, 04:25 PM
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haha...3 months, 1 years, 3 hours....thanks anyway....let me see if there's any difference after 1 week or so. |
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Jul 6 2006, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jul 6 2006, 01:16 PM) At least a year is a joke. Who is the headphone specialist? simon from music by design. He has been test a lot of Headphones before, he told me 40 hours is not really enough to burn it even a 3 months or 6 months. But for me i think as long daily burn it is better. I used to it in my music production. for no worried haha... |
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Jul 6 2006, 04:38 PM
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Simon? LOL
Please help me pass a message to him, he is the one telling everyone in this town burn-in process need to takes more than 1 years. Especially the product he is selling He is very well known for talking about burn-in process need to takes one year and more. *Not my words but alot of my customer also say like this |
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Jul 6 2006, 04:41 PM
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haha.. u guys.
dun turn this forum into "Simon says" from American Idol lor.. |
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Jul 6 2006, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jul 6 2006, 04:38 PM) Simon? LOL yeah right, that was he told, Please help me pass a message to him, he is the one telling everyone in this town burn-in process need to takes more than 1 years. Especially the product he is selling He is very well known for talking about burn-in process need to takes one year and more. *Not my words but alot of my customer also say like this by the way for me as long as we used more da headphones sure will improvement da quality.(is depend on how u burn-it lo).. This post has been edited by Akabane@DrJackel: Jul 6 2006, 04:43 PM |
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Jul 6 2006, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jul 6 2006, 04:35 PM) simon from music by design. He has been test a lot of Headphones before, he told me 40 hours is not really enough to burn it even a 3 months or 6 months. But for me i think as long daily burn it is better. I used to it in my music production. for no worried haha... and he or you has no technical explanation for it . I doubt anyone uses headphones for that long till the extent of noticing the subtle changes. If it shows significant improvement under for example 400 hours, how can it improve further after another 2000+ hours, it simply isnt logical. |
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Jul 6 2006, 05:12 PM
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if you want to prove it technically, I don't even think any headphone driver needs any burn in, even if it does, less than 1 day is more than enough. I can understand amplifier components such as tube or solid state's capacitors needing burn in, but headphones???
Maybe elastical property of diaphragm would affect sonic capability but continous music for 1 day is more than enough to do it's job IMHO |
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Jul 6 2006, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jul 6 2006, 04:38 PM) Simon? LOL lol, i missed this post. My sarcasm detector was broken. If sarcasm was intended, it's funny how simon could tell the difference even after 8640 hours of usage. (and it's improvement somemore)Please help me pass a message to him, he is the one telling everyone in this town burn-in process need to takes more than 1 years. Especially the product he is selling He is very well known for talking about burn-in process need to takes one year and more. *Not my words but alot of my customer also say like this QUOTE(Renovatio @ Jul 6 2006, 05:12 PM) if you want to prove it technically, I don't even think any headphone driver needs any burn in, even if it does, less than 1 day is more than enough. I can understand amplifier components such as tube or solid state's capacitors needing burn in, but headphones??? I believe in breaking-in both amp and speaker/headphone drivers. So far i only know about the elastical property of the diaphragm (headphones/speakers) performing at it's optimum performance. Is there anything else that breaking-in affects?Maybe elastical property of diaphragm would affect sonic capability but continous music for 1 day is more than enough to do it's job IMHO This post has been edited by LittleGhost: Jul 6 2006, 05:27 PM |
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Jul 6 2006, 09:12 PM
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one year of burn in for headphone is....bull sh1t. tell him that alamaklor says u need at least 3 years of 24/7 burn in for the phone to bloom
i think some people gotta use some common sense next time when listening to what specialist says... burn in has been scientifically proven to have technical differences by some people...but that was done on speaker and speaker do changes quite alot sometimes. |
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Jul 6 2006, 09:15 PM
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today i went to music by design again, i test one sr60 which is a demo set (more than 2 years liao) & another one is new one same model. but it seem that is not right was told by Simon, so i think not to listen on him, until today i test it today, i finalise by today the sound is little bit only differen is da drive is already burn liao bass more smooth only. I think one day is already enough to burn. (my work place very near with ampang park & city square).
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Jul 6 2006, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jul 6 2006, 04:38 PM) Simon? LOL Please help me pass a message to him, he is the one telling everyone in this town burn-in process need to takes more than 1 years. Especially the product he is selling He is very well known for talking about burn-in process need to takes one year and more. *Not my words but alot of my customer also say like this QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Jul 6 2006, 09:12 PM) one year of burn in for headphone is....bull sh1t. tell him that alamaklor says u need at least 3 years of 24/7 burn in for the phone to bloom haha i think some people gotta use some common sense next time when listening to what specialist says... burn in has been scientifically proven to have technical differences by some people...but that was done on speaker and speaker do changes quite alot sometimes. 1 year 365days x 1hour perday (4got 2 say ...saturday n sunday off ) |
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Jul 6 2006, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jul 6 2006, 09:15 PM) today i went to music by design again, i test one sr60 which is a demo set (more than 2 years liao) & another one is new one same model. but it seem that is not right was told by Simon, so i think not to listen on him, until today i test it today, i finalise by today the sound is little bit only differen is da drive is already burn liao bass more smooth only. I think one day is already enough to burn. (my work place very near with ampang park & city square). wow you really must have absolutely no opinion of your own self. Seeing you claimed to own so many models of headphone before still can't understand how it worked until now? Oh well, at least now you don't run around telling people to burn in for 3 months or 1 year .. bla bla bla |
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Jul 6 2006, 09:35 PM
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usually i only burn in some particular headphone for 24/7 2 weeks MAX then I'd start listening to them normally. I do hear some difference sometimes but I've never sworn by burn in. Most of the time burn in involves not only some subtle technical changes but also mental changes to adapt to the new sound along with self appreciation that makes them sound better. That's pretty much my concept of burn in.
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Jul 6 2006, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Jul 6 2006, 09:35 PM) wow you really must have absolutely no opinion of your own self. Seeing you claimed to own so many models of headphone before as i knw still can't understand how it worked until now? Oh well, at least now you don't run around telling people to burn in for 3 months or 1 year .. bla bla bla most of his headphone is 2nd hand (right?) |
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Jul 6 2006, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Jul 6 2006, 09:35 PM) wow you really must have absolutely no opinion of your own self. Seeing you claimed to own so many models of headphone before yeah right, i try so much of type of headphones, i'm not a pro on headphones. but still learn up about headphones. that why this time i went second time to re-check again. with my own review on this sr60. Almost my headphones is a second hand cause is a bargain price. As a music producer most of my time using a monitoring speaker only. since few months ago i start using a headphones only. anyway thank to all for opinion and thought. still can't understand how it worked until now? Oh well, at least now you don't run around telling people to burn in for 3 months or 1 year .. bla bla bla QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Jul 6 2006, 09:43 PM) as i knw yes, except my philips 895 & 805. plus today i purchase a grado sr80.most of his headphone is 2nd hand (right?)This post has been edited by Akabane@DrJackel: Jul 6 2006, 10:38 PM |
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Jul 8 2006, 10:18 AM
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Got my HD580 yesterday, after some brief listening, below are the differences compare to HP1000:
1. The detail in highs are there but it just less bright compare to HP1000, which is great for long listening 2. Soundstage is tad less compare to the Philips and less airy 3. Mids is lush and more tone-body compare to HP1000, so it sounds abit thick in my setup: PSC805 ---> LDIII ---> HD580. Oh yeah, the mid presentation is quite ok for me, not forward nor laid back 4. Bass is abit thick, impact is greater, bass extension is equal but it just seem that less details compare to HP1000 Conclusion: A great bang for the bucks headphone, worth very single cent I spent on it, it's used and RM450 shipped I believe it would be best pair with SS instead of tube, wondering when I could have a listen to doc's PPAv2 |
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Jul 8 2006, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Jul 6 2006, 09:35 PM) wow you really must have absolutely no opinion of your own self. Seeing you claimed to own so many models of headphone before Not having an opinion is a whole lot better than dogmatically insisting on one without having any proof to back it up. =P still can't understand how it worked until now? Oh well, at least now you don't run around telling people to burn in for 3 months or 1 year .. bla bla bla |
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Jul 9 2006, 12:59 PM
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Anyway i already off topic hehe, ok let talk about sennheiser k...
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Jul 11 2006, 09:53 PM
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Anyone come across mod the cable? any improvement and suggest for change the cable
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Jul 11 2006, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jul 11 2006, 09:53 PM) Anyone come across mod the cable? any improvement and suggest for change the cable What is the "the" that you are refering to? So many Sennheiser models with different types of cables |
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Jul 11 2006, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Jul 11 2006, 11:10 PM) What is the "the" that you are refering to? i mean u change the whole cable, get some like belden and canare cable with a canare 2.5" plug. etc.... So many Sennheiser models with different types of cables |
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Jul 12 2006, 03:23 AM
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Yes i understood that
I mean which model are u talking about? Changing the cable for HD580, 600, 650, 555, 595? If you're just asking in general, just search up a heap load in head-fi |
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Jul 12 2006, 03:31 AM
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Jul 12 2006, 03:23 AM) Yes i understood that i think he is asking all kind of senheiser phone jua I mean which model are u talking about? Changing the cable for HD580, 600, 650, 555, 595? If you're just asking in general, just search up a heap load in head-fi |
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Jul 12 2006, 03:51 AM
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Oh, in that case it'll be better to just search up on head-fi
Besides, each model would have different changes where some cables suit some models better Cant expect ppl to list down all the combinations Think there are only a few ppl here who have 3rd party cables on their Sennheiser |
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Jul 12 2006, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Jul 12 2006, 03:51 AM) Oh, in that case it'll be better to just search up on head-fi will check through other forum...Besides, each model would have different changes where some cables suit some models better Cant expect ppl to list down all the combinations Think there are only a few ppl here who have 3rd party cables on their Sennheiser |
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Jul 12 2006, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jul 12 2006, 08:07 AM) will check through other forum... saw many replacement cables (upgrade) for HD580/HD600 & HD650... but hardly any on HD595.... why arh ? because it's one sided , rather than Y ? |
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Jul 12 2006, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(leeyn @ Jul 12 2006, 02:23 PM) saw many replacement cables (upgrade) for HD580/HD600 & HD650... but hardly any on HD595.... why arh ? because it's one sided , rather than Y ? 1 of the reasons may be that the HD580/600/650 has detachable cablesSo it's easier, just make the cables and plug them in/out when u like to For the HD595, it's soldered in so you'll have to open the thing up to attach the cable Or maybe the 595 isnt worth the effort |
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Jul 12 2006, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Jul 12 2006, 07:16 PM) 1 of the reasons may be that the HD580/600/650 has detachable cables Or even worth the risk of permanent damage So it's easier, just make the cables and plug them in/out when u like to For the HD595, it's soldered in so you'll have to open the thing up to attach the cable Or maybe the 595 isnt worth the effort |
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Jul 13 2006, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Jul 12 2006, 07:16 PM) 1 of the reasons may be that the HD580/600/650 has detachable cables if thorn then only re-cabling i think, since is still in nice condition. Quite risky to mod... So it's easier, just make the cables and plug them in/out when u like to For the HD595, it's soldered in so you'll have to open the thing up to attach the cable Or maybe the 595 isnt worth the effort |
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Jul 13 2006, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Jul 12 2006, 08:32 PM) Or even worth the risk of permanent damage Its worth recabling just to get rid of that shitty memory cable |
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Jul 13 2006, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(mysticaldodo @ Jul 13 2006, 09:58 AM) Its worth recabling just to get rid of that shitty memory cable wah... looks like you've been there and done that.... Selling Zu Mobious 1.5metre[COLOR=red] |
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Jul 13 2006, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(leeyn @ Jul 13 2006, 11:19 AM) wah... looks like you've been there and done that.... I didn't do that cause I know I would have to sell it soon The Zu Mobius is only for HD 600 onwards (maybe 580 too?) The memory cable really sucks lar. Even when I roll up the stock cable of the HD 650, it falls back nicely. The HD 595 cable is like some mess up pasta or something. |
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Jul 13 2006, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(mysticaldodo @ Jul 13 2006, 11:56 AM) The Zu Mobius is only for HD 600 onwards ... the HD 650, it falls back nicely.... so - u gave up the hd650 with zu for better new toys ? |
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Guys, just wanna have a quick check. The warranty card for Sennheiser cans are usually packaged in the box rite? I have just ordered a Sennheiser HD 650 from a german website and my friend who is in Germany will bring it back for me mid August. I have called Sennheiser asia pacific service centre in Singapore and they have confirmed that the product comes with 2 year international manufacturer's warranty. All I need to make claims is to bring the warranty card along. So, is the warranty card packaged in the box for Sennheiser headphones?
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Jul 20 2006, 06:48 PM
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i also dun haf any warranty card...this one i need to clarify with DAvIS! And im sure all the other fella who got theirs from davis has no warranty card..
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Jul 20 2006, 07:10 PM
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I don't have warranty card too .
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Jul 20 2006, 07:43 PM
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yeah.. no warranty card too.
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Jul 20 2006, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(lchee @ Jul 20 2006, 05:37 PM) Guys, just wanna have a quick check. The warranty card for Sennheiser cans are usually packaged in the box rite? I have just ordered a Sennheiser HD 650 from a german website and my friend who is in Germany will bring it back for me mid August. I have called Sennheiser asia pacific service centre in Singapore and they have confirmed that the product comes with 2 year international manufacturer's warranty. All I need to make claims is to bring the warranty card along. So, is the warranty card packaged in the box for Sennheiser headphones? it's in the box together with the instruction booklet. I have mine though |
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Jul 20 2006, 08:18 PM
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Funny I don't see any warranty card for 555 or 701 >_>
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Jul 20 2006, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Jul 20 2006, 08:15 PM) it's in the box together with the instruction booklet. I have mine though hp1k oso dun hv |
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Jul 20 2006, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Jul 20 2006, 08:15 PM) it's in the box together with the instruction booklet. I have mine though QUOTE(Geminist @ Jul 20 2006, 08:18 PM) Funny I don't see any warranty card for 555 or 701 >_> My one don have a booklet ler, but is only come with a warranty card and da table clip. How is the booklet look like, is it the intro booklet? |
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Jul 20 2006, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Jul 20 2006, 08:55 PM) hp1k oso dun hv yeah, DAVis didnt include the warranty card. |
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Jul 21 2006, 09:27 AM
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Please ppl. I am referring to Sennheiser headphones only. Other brands warranty might not need warranty card. May I know if the Sennheiser warranty card is packaged inside the box with the booklet originally?
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Jul 21 2006, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(lchee @ Jul 21 2006, 09:27 AM) Please ppl. I am referring to Sennheiser headphones only. Other brands warranty might not need warranty card. May I know if the Sennheiser warranty card is packaged inside the box with the booklet originally? Packaged together with the instruction book.It's the same size as the instruction book. They are seperated but packaged together in a plastic bag. EDIT: wished i could take pictures for you but i don't have a camera with me now This post has been edited by LittleGhost: Jul 21 2006, 09:32 AM |
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Jul 21 2006, 10:38 AM
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Philips product all item is international warranty. Just walk in the item to service center, you will have the service.
*HP1000 since day one, they don't produce any warranty card. Some of my Sennheiser do come with warranty card, some don't. You can send directly to Singapore service center and mention my name (before send, need to contact me first). They will attend to you. OK? This post has been edited by DAViS: Jul 21 2006, 10:39 AM |
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Jul 26 2006, 08:09 AM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Jul 21 2006, 10:38 AM) Philips product all item is international warranty. Just walk in the item to service center, you will have the service. then just go to the place and get da warranty from them, but how they know the stuff is still valid warranty?*HP1000 since day one, they don't produce any warranty card. Some of my Sennheiser do come with warranty card, some don't. You can send directly to Singapore service center and mention my name (before send, need to contact me first). They will attend to you. OK? |
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Jul 26 2006, 03:15 PM
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Hi guys... newbie here so dont tembak ar!!
I've been using my Sennheiser HD 457 for 2 years now... love em. Although it can get quite bassy at times. Recently, I decided to migrate from MD to MP3s. I still listen to MDs quite often, but since I purchased a W800 with 2Gb memory stick, it only made sense to migrate to MP3s. On the move, the SE earbuds work fine, but at work, I'm with my Sennheisers. Now... I'll be travelling quite extensively soon... and am in the lookout for a more portable set. I've looked around and think the most suitable candidates would be the PX 100 or PX 200. PXC250s are wayy out of budget!! Read some reviews - it seems the PX100s were better sounding than the 200s. But, they're open type, which can be a nuisance since sound goes out too. The most common gripe apparently for the PX200s were the lack of bass. Any recommendations and suggestions from the gurus and sifus here would be much appreciated. Thanks!!! |
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Jul 26 2006, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(Twin_Sparx @ Jul 26 2006, 03:15 PM) Hi guys... newbie here so dont tembak ar!! yup. i oso read tat px100's better than px200. wanted to get px100 but no1s selling it. can onli get px200. so...join d audio technica bulk insted n m ordering d ES5. from d few reviews, iz supposed to b better than both d px100/200 wit great bass/impact. I've been using my Sennheiser HD 457 for 2 years now... love em. Although it can get quite bassy at times. Recently, I decided to migrate from MD to MP3s. I still listen to MDs quite often, but since I purchased a W800 with 2Gb memory stick, it only made sense to migrate to MP3s. On the move, the SE earbuds work fine, but at work, I'm with my Sennheisers. Now... I'll be travelling quite extensively soon... and am in the lookout for a more portable set. I've looked around and think the most suitable candidates would be the PX 100 or PX 200. PXC250s are wayy out of budget!! Read some reviews - it seems the PX100s were better sounding than the 200s. But, they're open type, which can be a nuisance since sound goes out too. The most common gripe apparently for the PX200s were the lack of bass. Any recommendations and suggestions from the gurus and sifus here would be much appreciated. Thanks!!! but m an owner of HD600 2 n awaiting d ZHAOLU V2 DAC n LDII+ 2c if it "opens" up. hehe |
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Jul 26 2006, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Jul 26 2006, 08:09 AM) then just go to the place and get da warranty from them, but how they know the stuff is still valid warranty? Friend, there is one thing in this world name as Serial number. |
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Jul 26 2006, 06:57 PM
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hi there..
any HD555 user here? pls post ur comment for me as reference.. my concerns are: 1.sound, prefer clarity and quality bass 2.comfortability 3. will this hp need an amp to sound good? thx.. |
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Jul 26 2006, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Jul 26 2006, 06:57 PM) hi there.. 3.most of the headphone have a room to improve their sound after ampedany HD555 user here? pls post ur comment for me as reference.. my concerns are: 1.sound, prefer clarity and quality bass 2.comfortability 3. will this hp need an amp to sound good? thx.. This post has been edited by yeah_guyz: Jul 26 2006, 07:18 PM |
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Jul 26 2006, 08:42 PM
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how about comfort for long time listening? (will ur neck become tired because of the weight of the headphone? joking...)
but, that's very important point.. |
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Jul 26 2006, 09:06 PM
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@yeahs4.1
The longest duration that I had the 555 on my head was 6 hours. It was the first day I bought it... No signs of neck fatigue |
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Jul 26 2006, 10:38 PM
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anyone bring in HD515 or HD555?
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Jul 27 2006, 12:49 PM
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[quote=Twin_Sparx,Jul 26 2006, 03:15 PM]
Hi guys... newbie here so dont tembak ar!! I've been using my Sennheiser HD 457 for 2 years now... love em. Although it can get quite bassy at times. Recently, I decided to migrate from MD to MP3s. I still listen to MDs quite often, but since I purchased a W800 with 2Gb memory stick, it only made sense to migrate to MP3s. On the move, the SE earbuds work fine, but at work, I'm with my Sennheisers. Now... I'll be travelling quite extensively soon... and am in the lookout for a more portable set. I've looked around and think the most suitable candidates would be the PX 100 or PX 200. PXC250s are wayy out of budget!! Read some reviews - it seems the PX100s were better sounding than the 200s. But, they're open type, which can be a nuisance since sound goes out too. The most common gripe apparently for the PX200s were the lack of bass. Any recommendations and suggestions from the gurus and sifus here would be much appreciated. Thanks!!! For me I prefer PX100 than PX200 although PX100 sometimes sounds over bass on certain type of songs. I bought the black version for RM199 during the KL AV show from Mediaplex. You can try checking with Mediaplex if they still have stocks cause I am sure they sold quite a number of it during KL AV show |
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Jul 27 2006, 03:35 PM
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I'm in love with the Sennheiser sound after listening to the PX100.Now I am seriously considering getting HD650 for home use.Anybody knows if my computer with Audigy 2 NX and Little Dot 2+ that I will be getting is adequate to drive the phones?
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Jul 27 2006, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(raoul) For me I prefer PX100 than PX200 although PX100 sometimes sounds over bass on certain type of songs. Hi raoul,I bought the black version for RM199 during the KL AV show from Mediaplex. You can try checking with Mediaplex if they still have stocks cause I am sure they sold quite a number of it during KL AV show I just got a pair of PX100 after auditioning it with the PX200. The PX200 did sound a little muffled, and not as warm as the PX100. Although the 'goods' that came with the PX200 did look aesthetically better (nice foam rims), its performance was sorely lacking for me. I tried it with my W800 phone and its superb. Now still burning it in with some 'heavy' bassy tech-house tracks. Seems to handle bass very well too. I paid RM220, for it after discounts, frm Mediaplex. |
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Jul 27 2006, 06:59 PM
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Wow, that expensive? Just this afternoon called Mediaplex, asked PX200 price, RM 350. The price is out of my budget.
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Jul 27 2006, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(Blackhart @ Jul 27 2006, 03:35 PM) I'm in love with the Sennheiser sound after listening to the PX100.Now I am seriously considering getting HD650 for home use.Anybody knows if my computer with Audigy 2 NX and Little Dot 2+ that I will be getting is adequate to drive the phones? The amp should be good enough. The source DAC, probably want to consider better sound card for something massive like HD650. Try ESI MAYA 44 or EMU0404 or EM1212M . |
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Jul 27 2006, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Jul 27 2006, 07:00 PM) The amp should be good enough. The source DAC, probably want to consider better sound card for something massive like HD650. Try ESI MAYA 44 or EMU0404 or EM1212M . Thanks for the suggestion.I'll switch the soundcard when I change to a new pc.Any idea where I can get those soundcards?I don't think I see anywhere selling them  |
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Jul 27 2006, 07:48 PM
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Well you can ask around a few bulkers like Mikechai for EMU series. As for Maya , there's actually one on-going bulk in LYN.
And what most sifu would suggest is buy an el cheapo but functionally well sound card like AV-710. Then couple it with external DAC like ZhaoLu 2. That would really be a heck of a DAC upgrade |
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Jul 27 2006, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(Twin_Sparx @ Jul 27 2006, 06:27 PM) QUOTE(raoul) For me I prefer PX100 than PX200 although PX100 sometimes sounds over bass on certain type of songs. Hi raoul,I bought the black version for RM199 during the KL AV show from Mediaplex. You can try checking with Mediaplex if they still have stocks cause I am sure they sold quite a number of it during KL AV show I just got a pair of PX100 after auditioning it with the PX200. The PX200 did sound a little muffled, and not as warm as the PX100. Although the 'goods' that came with the PX200 did look aesthetically better (nice foam rims), its performance was sorely lacking for me. I tried it with my W800 phone and its superb. Now still burning it in with some 'heavy' bassy tech-house tracks. Seems to handle bass very well too. I paid RM220, for it after discounts, frm Mediaplex. hope you enjoy your new headset |
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Jul 27 2006, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(Raven_lee @ Jul 27 2006, 06:59 PM) Wow, that expensive? Just this afternoon called Mediaplex, asked PX200 price, RM 350. The price is out of my budget. Oh, that was you who called. I simply quoted you as i dont give discount on phone basis. Please drop by and look for Dominic(me) / Alex. Thanks |
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Jul 27 2006, 09:23 PM
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was neglecting my hd650 for quite a while, been listening more with my ms2i.. had a relisten with the senns today, i still very much enjoy the sound coming from these cans. have not upgraded from the stock cable yet tho. dont think i will ever sell these, heh my ms2i will soon be on their way to their new owner. cant bring myself to let the hd650 go, my 1st high end cans..
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Jul 27 2006, 09:48 PM
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gavlim planning to sell your ms2i?
do consider me ya! thanks |
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Jul 27 2006, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(ifer @ Jul 27 2006, 09:48 PM) gavlim planning to sell your ms2i? already have a buyer waiting do consider me ya! thanks |
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Jul 27 2006, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Jul 27 2006, 07:48 PM) Well you can ask around a few bulkers like Mikechai for EMU series. As for Maya , there's actually one on-going bulk in LYN. Hmmm my room very small only la...no place already to put another external DAC though I'd love to own it And what most sifu would suggest is buy an el cheapo but functionally well sound card like AV-710. Then couple it with external DAC like ZhaoLu 2. That would really be a heck of a DAC upgrade .I guess I'll just settle for the EMU series.Thanks so much for your replies |
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Jul 29 2006, 12:22 AM
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Hey all!
I have officially joined the Senn club with CX300, purchased thru Jenssen in the Bulk Section....yeah! Here is what I wrote in his bulk thread: First impression, treble a bit high, like the Sony MDR-EX51, but not as ear-piercing. Bass it good, tight, but not as deep as my Grado SR60s The wires are rather stiff (which I think is good) compared to my EP-480. The build looks solid, especially the wire mesh that is covering the driver. I like the part where the wire comes out of the phones, where there is a 2cm tension/wire-wrap to help prevent the wires ripping out of the earphones in case of accident wire-trip. Since this is my first canalphone, I will still need to get used to the "endoscope" effect where you can hear your body movement brushing against the wires. I guess I'll still keep my EP-480 for gym and workouts. My other complaint is that the gap between the silver ring and the body, is not the same between the left and right. On my unit, the right ear's gap seem to be bigger. BTW, I have talked to one of the distributors of Senn products, and she quoted me RM310. I got mine, including shipping for RM185 That's all folks. Hope you guys enjoy these gread buds! And remember that this is first impression (first 2 hours). I'll come back after a complete physical/mental breakin |
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Jul 29 2006, 02:55 PM
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Hey all,
Day 2: Still cannot find the mids, sounds a bit shallow in this department. Maybe it's the deep bass and the precise high that overcame the mids. Oh yeah...deep bass...think SR60, 85% there (IMHO Gauge) in terms of depth... nice! As usual, my standard bass track = Daniel Powter, Song 6. Very very deep and long bass throughout the song. I'll update whether the mid have presented themselves, as soon I find them, or they find me |
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Jul 30 2006, 01:39 AM
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anyone test the new earphone line from Senn? the style-your-sound line.. and how much.
need to replace my cheapy earphone as the neckband broken. |
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Jul 30 2006, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(nocar @ Jul 30 2006, 01:39 AM) anyone test the new earphone line from Senn? the style-your-sound line.. and how much. I have seen the poster up in MediaPlex KLCC, probably they have the price list guar. Why don't u just go for CX300?need to replace my cheapy earphone as the neckband broken. |
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Jul 30 2006, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE(johnliew @ Jul 29 2006, 02:55 PM) Hey all, dude try amping d cx300s. d mids will return to haunt ya. atleast it does for me. hav fun..!Day 2: Still cannot find the mids, sounds a bit shallow in this department. Maybe it's the deep bass and the precise high that overcame the mids. Oh yeah...deep bass...think SR60, 85% there (IMHO Gauge) in terms of depth... nice! As usual, my standard bass track = Daniel Powter, Song 6. Very very deep and long bass throughout the song. I'll update whether the mid have presented themselves, as soon I find them, or they find me |
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Aug 2 2006, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(scottiebabie @ Jul 30 2006, 07:10 PM) dude try amping d cx300s. d mids will return to haunt ya. atleast it does for me. hav fun..! scottie: OK, will try it out Update everyone once I get verdict... |
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Aug 6 2006, 12:54 PM
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what is the best head amp should pair with sennheiser hd555?
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Aug 6 2006, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Aug 6 2006, 12:54 PM) what is the best head amp should pair with sennheiser hd555? an expensive one. |
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Aug 6 2006, 01:28 PM
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hint hint...hint hint..lookie at theDocs siggie..hint hint..
Akabane got urself a HD555 edi ka? U wont go to Philips ever again if u hear em..ehem ehem..hint also to sumone |
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Aug 6 2006, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(thedoctor @ Aug 6 2006, 01:25 PM) an expensive one. heyyy, d doctor is a FUNNY guy!! |
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Aug 6 2006, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(thedoctor @ Aug 6 2006, 01:25 PM) an expensive one. of couse is enpensive lar, but i mean i budget level...first time thedoctor make me laugh man haha... QUOTE(ijan @ Aug 6 2006, 01:28 PM) hint hint...hint hint..lookie at theDocs siggie..hint hint.. nope i test out at my friend one, ur one still not selling ka..?Akabane got urself a HD555 edi ka? U wont go to Philips ever again if u hear em..ehem ehem..hint also to sumone |
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Aug 6 2006, 06:48 PM
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aik, sold xd cos u replied me late..and in ur reply also u said ull think about it neways.
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Aug 6 2006, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(ijan @ Aug 6 2006, 06:48 PM) aik, sold xd cos u replied me late..and in ur reply also u said ull think about it neways. yeah, i think also cause now more to my grado sr80 hehe |
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Aug 17 2006, 11:18 PM
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ever since then now so quite liao.....
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Aug 20 2006, 09:47 PM
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can u guys tell me which headphone should i buy??
I want for my PDA and i need a portable headphone to travel along. |
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Aug 20 2006, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(neo_lam @ Aug 20 2006, 09:47 PM) can u guys tell me which headphone should i buy?? Dude, have your checked out What Headphones/Earphones To Buy?I want for my PDA and i need a portable headphone to travel along. But if you ask me, my ultimate choice now is Senn CX300 Canalphones... |
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Aug 20 2006, 10:30 PM
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I read ad.
I want to have a choose between PX100,AKG K27i and AKG K26P. Can u tell me? |
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Aug 21 2006, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(johnliew @ Aug 20 2006, 10:14 PM) Dude, have your checked out What Headphones/Earphones To Buy? from some review in chinaBut if you ask me, my ultimate choice now is Senn CX300 Canalphones... cx300 and creative EP630 is a same quality... hehe....hw ur felling nw? |
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Aug 22 2006, 01:06 AM
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Can u guys tell me how much is the Senn PX100??
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Aug 22 2006, 01:26 AM
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QUOTE(neo_lam @ Aug 22 2006, 01:06 AM) Can u guys tell me how much is the Senn PX100?? 200+ kua  |
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Aug 22 2006, 01:36 AM
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Where can buy it cheaper??
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Aug 22 2006, 10:35 AM
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If I remember correctly Mediaplex sells PX100 for RM250, don't know where else to get it in Malaysia.Should have got it in the KLIAV...
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Aug 23 2006, 01:56 PM
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Just got the HD 555. Did I plunge myself back into the Sennheiser team again?
Don't really remember the HD 595 but I fell the plastic feels somewhat cheaper and the grip is tighter. I think the HD 595 extends slightly more to fit bigger heads but I'm not sure. Maybe because its brand new. The shitty memory cable is still there though |
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Aug 23 2006, 04:41 PM
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aik dodo..wat ever got u to get a HD555 again? saja2 boring or interested..haha, do tell!
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Aug 24 2006, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Aug 6 2006, 12:54 PM) what is the best head amp should pair with sennheiser hd555? I use the Little Dot 3 (initial batch) with my HD555. Music flows beautifully, as attested by all my friends that have listened to the combination. No fatigue at all, have listened to this combo for a 6 hour stretch on a few occasion without realising it while doing some late night soldering!
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Aug 24 2006, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(ijan @ Aug 23 2006, 04:41 PM) aik dodo..wat ever got u to get a HD555 again? saja2 boring or interested..haha, do tell! I never had the 555 actually. Just wanted a good quality headphone for PC DVD, games and the occasional MP3 listening. My Phillips SPH 805 seems to distort quite a bit at the lower end (points for confort though). I do kind of prefer the 595 over the HD 650 and others for PC usage so I remember what people said about the 555 being like 80% of 595, so why not? I don't use this for critical listening so not gonna comment about its audiophile quality although frankly speaking, the 595 is not a lot of better, to me at least. |
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Aug 24 2006, 10:03 PM
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ya ya...you spewed the truth out so loudly making me more..eager to change my gear again..sabar sabar..haha! 595 is better than 555, but nothing to shout about punya difference..aiyo..
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Aug 24 2006, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(ijan @ Aug 24 2006, 10:03 PM) ya ya...you spewed the truth out so loudly making me more..eager to change my gear again..sabar sabar..haha! 595 is better than 555, but nothing to shout about punya difference..aiyo.. You should know best, you've had them both too ! Dont worry dodo, i'm your 595 is safe with me here |
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Aug 24 2006, 11:07 PM
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yeah, i know, thats why la..hehe! if the difference is rm200, its worth it, if its more than rm300, scrap it..i got my upgrade for less than rm100 so no prob i see
The difference is actually quite significant, but u would be hard-pressed to decide which is better, i wont miss the 595 that much if i had to use a 555. This post has been edited by ijan: Aug 24 2006, 11:08 PM |
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Aug 25 2006, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE(ijan @ Aug 24 2006, 11:07 PM) yeah, i know, thats why la..hehe! if the difference is rm200, its worth it, if its more than rm300, scrap it..i got my upgrade for less than rm100 so no prob i see Confusingnya ! The difference is actually quite significant, but u would be hard-pressed to decide which is better, i wont miss the 595 that much if i had to use a 555. So it's a significant difference, just not worth the extra cash (RM300) ? |
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Aug 25 2006, 02:18 AM
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HD650 + HD595 + Headroom Max Amp owner here..
not bad for sennheiser quality headphone but for me i still prefer audio technica or grado.. no offense ya |
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Aug 25 2006, 02:33 AM
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QUOTE(^aMnESiA^ @ Aug 25 2006, 02:18 AM) HD650 + HD595 + Headroom Max Amp owner here.. i wish i can own 1 senheiser hd600/650 or ATH W5000 in future not bad for sennheiser quality headphone but for me i still prefer audio technica or grado.. no offense ya |
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Aug 25 2006, 03:00 AM
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ATH W5000 hmm..i thought alamaklor own it? somemore got AKG K701 so rich la !
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Aug 25 2006, 09:03 AM
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alamaklor sold his w5000 long time ago liao
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Aug 25 2006, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Aug 25 2006, 02:33 AM) i wish i can own 1 senheiser hd600/650 or ATH W5000 in future i thought u said wanna save money?QUOTE(^aMnESiA^ @ Aug 25 2006, 02:18 AM) HD650 + HD595 + Headroom Max Amp owner here.. u prefer sound signature of grado and audio technica cans?not bad for sennheiser quality headphone but for me i still prefer audio technica or grado.. no offense ya can u briefly compare sound signature of both senn and audio technica? thx.. ( sorry, a noob question ) |
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Aug 25 2006, 04:06 PM
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Just got my HD650 and pairing it up with the LD2+ bought from Yeah_guyz. This pair of cans is just heavenly. Very comfortable and well built. Highly recommended.
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Aug 25 2006, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Aug 25 2006, 03:39 PM) i thought u said wanna save money? save money then go nn buy 1 to poison u ma  |
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Aug 25 2006, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Aug 25 2006, 04:06 PM) save money then go nn buy 1 to poison u ma how if i buy 1st and the n poison u in another way round?  come HD555, come~ |
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Aug 25 2006, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Aug 25 2006, 04:16 PM) how if i buy 1st and the n poison u in another way round? hehe come HD555, come~ c 1st lo i anti poison de i jz affaid that u poisoned by me again after visiting me |
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Aug 25 2006, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(lchee @ Aug 25 2006, 04:06 PM) Just got my HD650 and pairing it up with the LD2+ bought from Yeah_guyz. This pair of cans is just heavenly. Very comfortable and well built. Highly recommended. Haha me too, heavenly is the word |
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Aug 25 2006, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(Blackhart @ Aug 25 2006, 06:54 PM) Haha me too, heavenly is the word make me abit itchy for the hd650 |
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Aug 25 2006, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Aug 25 2006, 02:33 AM) i wish i can own 1 senheiser hd600/650 or ATH W5000 in future You are saying what I am dreaming, but it seems wont be coming true... |
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Aug 25 2006, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Aug 25 2006, 06:56 PM) make me abit itchy for the hd650 Shave ur head |
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Aug 25 2006, 07:42 PM
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Why wait so long....and spend $ on intermediate, all the way 650.
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Aug 25 2006, 11:16 PM
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Spread the poison everybody
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Aug 25 2006, 11:31 PM
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yeah!!
should not calles this as audiophile section is POISONING subforum who get inside who got poisoned |
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Aug 26 2006, 12:08 AM
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FYI, yeah_guyz is the main poison, whoever pls keep ur talking distance from him
he is the necromancer of audiophile he is 欧阳峰 LYN jz call him 老毒!!!!!!! king of poison~ haha |
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Aug 26 2006, 12:11 AM
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Let sennheiser has no more stock on HD650, everyone go buy it now!!!
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Aug 26 2006, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Aug 26 2006, 12:08 AM) FYI, yeah_guyz is the main poison, whoever pls keep ur talking distance from him walao ei....... he is the necromancer of audiophile he is 欧阳峰 LYN jz call him 老毒!!!!!!! king of poison~ haha |
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Aug 26 2006, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(walabies @ Aug 26 2006, 12:11 AM) Let sennheiser has no more stock on HD650, everyone go buy it now!!! HD650 aint cheap u know?p/s : yeah_guyz, jz joking |
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Aug 26 2006, 10:07 AM
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No one talking about the Orpheus 60/70/90?
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Aug 27 2006, 03:17 AM
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QUOTE(jasonlky @ Aug 24 2006, 12:31 PM) I use the Little Dot 3 (initial batch) with my HD555. Music flows beautifully, as attested by all my friends that have listened to the combination. No fatigue at all, have listened to this combo for a 6 hour stretch on a few occasion without realising it while doing some late night soldering! nice setup, thanks for your sharing...with ur pics
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Aug 27 2006, 12:36 PM
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HD650 owners, just a question, you guys like it better with or without the annoying sponge thinggy covering the drivers?
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Aug 27 2006, 12:49 PM
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Ummm I'm fine with it though I haven't tried using it without the sponge.
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Aug 28 2006, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Aug 27 2006, 12:36 PM) HD650 owners, just a question, you guys like it better with or without the annoying sponge thinggy covering the drivers? If for short period without the foam is still okay, ears get tired listening too long without teh foamies, though it could be teh zu cable's effect. |
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Aug 28 2006, 02:26 AM
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I got a Sennheiser HD485 also. Nice headphones for me. Suggested.
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Aug 28 2006, 03:23 AM
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QUOTE(Categg @ Aug 28 2006, 12:47 AM) If for short period without the foam is still okay, ears get tired listening too long without teh foamies, though it could be teh zu cable's effect. Maybe changin the material can lift the "legendary" Sennheiser veil? Maybe we should try a few kinds of materials, maybe cloth, gauze and so on. |
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Aug 28 2006, 04:04 PM
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I won't mind if its "veiled", I don't like it when it sounds too bright.
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Aug 28 2006, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Aug 28 2006, 03:23 AM) Maybe changin the material can lift the "legendary" Sennheiser veil? Maybe we should try a few kinds of materials, maybe cloth, gauze what about the "thing" that women wore for their legs? and so on.Damn i cannot believe that i forget what it is. Anyway, i don't like how the sennheiser sounds without the foam. I know it's ridiculous, but i somehow like the veil-ish sound. |
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Aug 28 2006, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Aug 28 2006, 06:56 PM) what about the "thing" that women wore for their legs? Pantyhose!Damn i cannot believe that i forget what it is. Anyway, i don't like how the sennheiser sounds without the foam. I know it's ridiculous, but i somehow like the veil-ish sound. I'm mighty satisfied with my HD555. It always manages to make music more enjoyable after spending a day with the PX200s in transit. |
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Aug 29 2006, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Aug 28 2006, 03:23 AM) Maybe changin the material can lift the "legendary" Sennheiser veil? Maybe we should try a few kinds of materials, maybe cloth, gauze My HD 650 is still new, the clamping force on my head is has really got a grip. Will have to season it for a while and see if I will opt for any modifications to cans. and so on. |
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Aug 29 2006, 02:12 PM
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A question here. I owned a HD497 from buddy bulk the last time.
Now the whole rubber skin is torn off from the ear cushion. Is it possible to change it? Or just leaving it as it is is better? Notice it was peeling off when it got stuck with my table... Guess malaysia's heat is too much for the material This post has been edited by Goatie: Aug 29 2006, 02:12 PM |
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Aug 29 2006, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(Goatie @ Aug 29 2006, 02:12 PM) A question here. I owned a HD497 from buddy bulk the last time. I think not neccessary change even torn off, is already season liao, sure you will not confortable if u change a new one. Now the whole rubber skin is torn off from the ear cushion. Is it possible to change it? Or just leaving it as it is is better? Notice it was peeling off when it got stuck with my table... Guess malaysia's heat is too much for the material This post has been edited by Akabane@DrJackel: Aug 29 2006, 11:58 PM |
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Aug 31 2006, 04:01 PM
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i owned a HD515.. but it don't seem to have any user here huh? if yes, can anyone share their experience? anyway until now it satisfised me for all kind of music ( maybe i havent listened to those high-end one, and i'l make sure myself to stay away from those.. hehe.. ) and it's comfortable.. so all the tailo here (HD555-HD650)
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Aug 31 2006, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(nicholas_1213 @ Aug 31 2006, 04:01 PM) i owned a HD515.. but it don't seem to have any user here huh? if yes, can anyone share their experience? anyway until now it satisfised me for all kind of music ( maybe i havent listened to those high-end one, and i'l make sure myself to stay away from those.. hehe.. ) and it's comfortable.. so all the tailo here (HD555-HD650) Yep, stay away from "Poison" |
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Aug 31 2006, 09:23 PM
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i'm still stick my hd485 even is not the high end level. headphone for me is ok.
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Aug 31 2006, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Aug 31 2006, 09:23 PM) i'm still stick my hd485 even is not the high end level. headphone for me is ok. LOL NO, come up to the level of the HD650s, AKG701s, DT880s, RS2s fer major sonique overload , you'll thank me after you get one of those cans Once you're done with that, electrostatic is the only way to go! |
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Aug 31 2006, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Aug 31 2006, 09:34 PM) LOL NO, come up to the level of the HD650s, AKG701s, DT880s, RS2s fer major sonique overload which reminds me, do you know where you can get stax cans from? I'm still contemplating. Would the SR-404 be a better choice or the K701?, you'll thank me after you get one of those cans Once you're done with that, electrostatic is the only way to go! |
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Aug 31 2006, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Aug 31 2006, 09:49 PM) which reminds me, do you know where you can get stax cans from? I'm still contemplating. Would the SR-404 be a better choice or the K701? I'm not too sure but IIRC, Headphone.com and TTVJ.com do ship here. I personally don't know of any STAX distris around here. Although maybe you could cruise by City Square's AV zone and ask around. |
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Aug 31 2006, 11:29 PM
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1,040 posts Joined: May 2005 From: north + south
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Aug 31 2006, 09:34 PM) LOL NO, come up to the level of the HD650s, AKG701s, DT880s, RS2s fer major sonique overload , you'll thank me after you get one of those cans Once you're done with that, electrostatic is the only way to go! does that means the ladder is 650 < 701 < 880 < RS2 -or- 650 > 701 > 880 > RS2? ^ owh shi#, i'm in the senns hive. |
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Sep 3 2006, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Aug 31 2006, 09:34 PM) LOL NO, come up to the level of the HD650s, AKG701s, DT880s, RS2s fer major sonique overload Will not go for sennheiser liao, hd485 is my last sennheiser. My next head fi will be akg701. tested and satisfied with the quality and purest of the headphone. , you'll thank me after you get one of those cans Once you're done with that, electrostatic is the only way to go! |
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Sep 3 2006, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Sep 3 2006, 10:38 PM) Will not go for sennheiser liao, hd485 is my last sennheiser. My next head fi will be akg701. tested and satisfied with the quality and purest of the headphone. where can test k701?? |
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Sep 4 2006, 01:08 AM
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I'm using HD 595 now. Not bad for me even without an amp. Planning to upgrade to HD 650 if i get more money (after change system to conroe
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Sep 4 2006, 03:44 AM
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y dun u jz add a headamp?
it's cheaper and it gonna boost up ur HD595 performance.. HD595 gonna need a headamp to be really really shine.. |
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Sep 4 2006, 04:50 AM
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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Sep 4 2006, 03:44 AM) y dun u jz add a headamp? still looking for a headamp. Hope to get one soon. it's cheaper and it gonna boost up ur HD595 performance.. HD595 gonna need a headamp to be really really shine.. |
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Sep 4 2006, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Sep 4 2006, 03:44 AM) y dun u jz add a headamp? I think getting the HD 650 (or others) first then the amp later would be a much better solution. At least you can make sure the amp pairs well. it's cheaper and it gonna boost up ur HD595 performance.. HD595 gonna need a headamp to be really really shine.. The 595 doesn't improve that much to justify an amp for it in my opinion. |
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Sep 4 2006, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Sep 3 2006, 10:49 PM) where can test k701?? Asia Sound Equiment (M) SDN BHDLot 204, 1st Floor, Ampank Park Shopping Centre, Jalan Ampang, 50450 Kuala Lumpur I been visited this shop already two times liao, very near with my office. |
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Sep 4 2006, 10:44 AM
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Any suggestion for amps to drive the HD650?
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Sep 4 2006, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(Blackhart @ Sep 4 2006, 10:44 AM) Any suggestion for amps to drive the HD650? try little dot ii + amp. will make your headphone different. is a very unique amp after goin through two weeks seem the drive amp is goin better and better, tried my hd485 seem is improved a lot. |
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Sep 4 2006, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Sep 4 2006, 10:47 AM) try little dot ii + amp. will make your headphone different. is a very unique amp after goin through two weeks seem the drive amp is goin better and better, tried my hd485 seem is improved a lot. Yup that's what I'm using currently.Seems like it has to heat up for a little while before it sounds good.I'm looking for a more portable amp for HD650 in case I go travelling though its not urgent, actually the headphone itself is not very portable.Have to keep it in the big case to keep it safe when travelling |
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QUOTE(mysticaldodo @ Sep 4 2006, 10:00 AM) I think getting the HD 650 (or others) first then the amp later would be a much better solution. At least you can make sure the amp pairs well. This is where ur wrong, even a basic CMOY does something, but minimalist style, u get higher the amp chain u get exponential upgrade to the 595 SQ. test n tried with various amps, and un-amped with various sources.The 595 doesn't improve that much to justify an amp for it in my opinion. IMHO, better amp first, then get a new headphone, cos witout an amp (note to oneself, not all headfons or all sources need an amp) u wont see exactly how ur headphone performs. U might get a better sound from ur amp+hedfon compared to say upgrading to a hd650 without an amp <-- tis u can ask around, but most lurkers here in lowyat jus dun care to comment, but they know. However, HD595, get a high current amp. u wont benefit na~da from unbuffered opamp to make u say ooooh-aaahhh. |
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Sep 4 2006, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(ijan @ Sep 4 2006, 02:59 PM) However, HD595, get a high current amp. u wont benefit na~da from unbuffered opamp to make u say ooooh-aaahhh. |
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Sep 4 2006, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(slacx @ Sep 4 2006, 04:02 PM) erm..Little Dot 2+ is a good choice to drive HD595? Nope, LD3 would be better |
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Sep 4 2006, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Sep 4 2006, 05:37 PM) Nope, LD3 would be better 3+ better |
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Sep 4 2006, 05:56 PM
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I haf other opinion, but i wont voice them out over my humility:D
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Sep 4 2006, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(ijan @ Sep 4 2006, 05:56 PM) I haf other opinion, but i wont voice them out over my humility:D ppav2?? dun simpan share with us |
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Sep 4 2006, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Sep 4 2006, 05:37 PM) Nope, LD3 would be better i'm afraid i can be "kurus keding" if i buy this. QUOTE(ijan @ Sep 4 2006, 05:56 PM) I haf other opinion, but i wont voice them out over my humility:D what's urs? come on. |
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Sep 4 2006, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(ijan @ Sep 4 2006, 02:59 PM) This is where ur wrong, even a basic CMOY does something, but minimalist style, u get higher the amp chain u get exponential upgrade to the 595 SQ. test n tried with various amps, and un-amped with various sources. thx for the input IMHO, better amp first, then get a new headphone, cos witout an amp (note to oneself, not all headfons or all sources need an amp) u wont see exactly how ur headphone performs. U might get a better sound from ur amp+hedfon compared to say upgrading to a hd650 without an amp <-- tis u can ask around, but most lurkers here in lowyat jus dun care to comment, but they know. However, HD595, get a high current amp. u wont benefit na~da from unbuffered opamp to make u say ooooh-aaahhh. |
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Sep 6 2006, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(ijan @ Sep 4 2006, 02:59 PM) However, HD595, get a high current amp. u wont benefit na~da from unbuffered opamp to make u say ooooh-aaahhh. may i know y must get a high current amp? because of the high impedence so the amp can drive the hp easily?my 555 can be drove easily without amp, however, i do think that there is still room for improvement fot this hp.. do u mean that 555 suites better with an high current amp as well? QUOTE(ijan @ Sep 4 2006, 05:56 PM) I haf other opinion, but i wont voice them out over my humility:D please, do shareThis post has been edited by yeahs4.1: Sep 6 2006, 05:58 PM |
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Sep 6 2006, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Sep 6 2006, 05:56 PM) may i know y must get a high current amp? because of the high impedence so the amp can drive the hp easily? It is commonly accepted that high impedance or hiZ phone need higher voltage to werk, ohms power law, P=VI, I=V/R, thus P=V^2/R and in current form P=R*I^2. For the same amount of power (as defined by system synergy of amp+headphone), hiZ would require more voltage than current. EG, two headphone, 1=200ohm, 2=50ohm. For an input power of 1W, headphone 1 would require 10V and 50mA while headphone 2 would require 5v and 100mA to produce the same output power, well, technically. So theres the reason for a high current amp. But this is a generalization and shoud not account any headphones, but a rough idea.my 555 can be drove easily without amp, however, i do think that there is still room for improvement fot this hp.. do u mean that 555 suites better with an high current amp as well? please, do share Extra useless info if u guys are more technical.. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « So, u are asking improvement with the HD555. It can be easily driven, no fuss there, 50ohm is not much (but SHP895 32ohm acts like a 500ohm megaphones, hard as hell to drive, so no generalization). I dun want to explain more than i should, so make a long long time ago past experience as a point, i had a HD555 before and tested them from my unamped emu 1212m output (this card was never designed to drive anything directly, thus the extremely low level of volume n clarity). Paired it with a CMOY and the volume gets ramped and all the details are there, visible since before, the small detail variations in the signal was not enough to move the transducers. There was major improvement, but maybe its because the original output is just weak. After a while, i procured sum ic discreet current buffer and paired it up. i laughed my heads off due to the VAST difference. The bass is very impactful and everything else has just gone three nothces up! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « About my humiliation, not that i am a solid state guy, i love tubes, but honestly i have never tested them, but warnings were thrown at me not to waste my time on them..hehe! This i hope is no offence but to me, a pure solid state amplifier with a highly bias output stage is the BANG! for example the PPA-V2 and M3. Actually a PIMETA works quite well. A short circuited LDM+ or PA2v2 over HD555 can only give a 60mA current (if the battery can supply tat and thus as explained, these are only super low voltage opamp based amplifiers, thus wat u get are low voltage and lower current. Aiyo..wat a long post..i blabber to much, sorry yea! Im sure sumone would come n flame me, but feel free to do so, i wont fight back |
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Sep 6 2006, 07:16 PM
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P/S, yeahs 4.1, hows ur first experience with the HD555?
it aint comfortable but its tat musical for that price range |
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Sep 6 2006, 07:47 PM
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so far i am very satisfy with the hp.. love the sound although it is still in burn in process.. however, my ears do feel fatigue quite fast, about half an hour of listening.. i dunno y.. mayb my ears cant stand in closed place without sufficient air supply.. haha..
i took half an hour to digest ur post, do a little maths and ohm''s law, still got a little blurry.. nvm.. it takes time to digest.. i am planning to get LD2+, and the worst thing is i am not very good with the specs: Frenquency response: 10HZ to 35KHZ (-3db) Distortion: <=1% (50mW, 300ohm) <=3% (92mW, 300 ohm) Power handling capacity: 35W (under alternating current situation) Output terminal: 6.5mm Mic Jack Input terminal: RCA Jack Can drive headphones with 30 ohm to 600 ohm i dont see any statement that shows high or low current, mayb u can teach me how to do the maths a little there.. ( i dunno how i calculate, but looks like i got 31mA running for 50ohm, correct me pls.. ) will it be a wise choice then? |
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Sep 6 2006, 08:02 PM
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@ijan
thank for explaination yeah i learn alot there QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Sep 6 2006, 07:47 PM) so far i am very satisfy with the hp.. love the sound although it is still in burn in process.. however, my ears do feel fatigue quite fast, about half an hour of listening.. i dunno y.. mayb my ears cant stand in closed place without sufficient air supply.. haha.. me oso intrested to knw that i took half an hour to digest ur post, do a little maths and ohm''s law, still got a little blurry.. nvm.. it takes time to digest.. i am planning to get LD2+, and the worst thing is i am not very good with the specs: Frenquency response: 10HZ to 35KHZ (-3db) Distortion: <=1% (50mW, 300ohm) <=3% (92mW, 300 ohm) Power handling capacity: 35W (under alternating current situation) Output terminal: 6.5mm Mic Jack Input terminal: RCA Jack Can drive headphones with 30 ohm to 600 ohm i dont see any statement that shows high or low current, mayb u can teach me how to do the maths a little there.. ( i dunno how i calculate, but looks like i got 31mA running for 50ohm, correct me pls.. ) will it be a wise choice then? |
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Sep 7 2006, 12:08 PM
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This im not that knowledgeable, its related to audio engineering which is way different than electronics. But from an electronic POV, the frequency response of the LD2+ is respectable, power handling capacity is quite high, meaning the main purpose of the LD2+ aint only for headphones and seems to be focused more on HiFi setup either as a pre-amp or small power power amp.
HOWEVER, look at the THD, its quite bad with high impedance phone when higher current is needed (translates to higher volume, dynamics bla bla bla). Seeing it from a HD555 50ohm impedance, its impossible to say the THD the 555 is seeing deue to THD unlinearity, needs a plot of the THD in order to know, but in no way is it going to be less than 0.1%. 0.1% THD is still not that bad, audio opamps usually haf their THD in the 0.00001% or smaller region, this might give sum echo of unwanted signal in the output, but maybe thats how tubes are. If im no mistaken, tubes haf THD in the even number while ss has them in odds, and tubes are naturally more distorted (higher THD) than its SS brethren. So in any other way, LD2+ seems to be good for a tube, cos i dun really know how tube response, u haf tow ait for TUBE guys to come in. For a SS to haf that specification, that SS amps would not be the better of anything. But in the end, its a mtter of preperences, sum high end amps distorts the signal n ppl like it more. the 1212m almost pure, no coloration and distortation, yet ppl find it bland and boring. |
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Sep 7 2006, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Sep 6 2006, 08:47 AM) so far i am very satisfy with the hp.. love the sound although it is still in burn in process.. however, my ears do feel fatigue quite fast, about half an hour of listening.. i dunno y.. mayb my ears cant stand in closed place without sufficient air supply.. haha.. V=IRi took half an hour to digest ur post, do a little maths and ohm''s law, still got a little blurry.. nvm.. it takes time to digest.. i am planning to get LD2+, and the worst thing is i am not very good with the specs: Frenquency response: 10HZ to 35KHZ (-3db) Distortion: <=1% (50mW, 300ohm) <=3% (92mW, 300 ohm) Power handling capacity: 35W (under alternating current situation) Output terminal: 6.5mm Mic Jack Input terminal: RCA Jack Can drive headphones with 30 ohm to 600 ohm i dont see any statement that shows high or low current, mayb u can teach me how to do the maths a little there.. ( i dunno how i calculate, but looks like i got 31mA running for 50ohm, correct me pls.. ) will it be a wise choice then? P=I^2 * R or P= V^2 / R QUOTE Distortion: <=1% (50mW, 300ohm) I^2=P/R I^2=0.05/300 I=sqrt(0.05/300) = 0.013A (13mA) Vrms=0.013*300=3.9 The THD is <=1% when the amp is driving a 300ohm phone (say a sennheiser) at 3.9Vrms. QUOTE <=3% (92mW, 300 ohm) I^2=P/R I^2=0.092/300 I=sqrt(0.092/300) = 0.018A (18mA) Vrms=0.018*300=5.4 The THD is <=3% when the amp is driving a 300ohm phone at 5.4Vrms. How loud is 3.9Vrms or 5.4Vrms? take a test tone generator and play a 1khz freq @ 0db. Take your multimeter and take the measuremet at that volume then plug in ur headphone and give it a try. let's say you are listening to a volume of 6Vrms with your 555, your headphone is sucking up: V/R=I 6/50=0.12A (120mA) P=0.12^2 * 50 =0.72W (720mW) 50mW, THD <=1% 92mW, THD <=3% 120mW, THD <= gotta love tube amps. So, you can see from the above example that low impedance phone suck up ALOT more current than high impedance phone. Whereas high impedance phone requires alot more voltage swing than low impedance phones. That's why you need an amp capable of delivering lot's of current for low imp phone. Cmoy works better with high imp phones than low imp phones ps: you prolly wont listen to it at 6Vrms i was just exaggerating This post has been edited by AlamakLor: Sep 7 2006, 01:24 PM |
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Sep 7 2006, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 7 2006, 01:15 PM) V=IR Found Corda Headfive in Headfi forum. P=I^2 * R or P= V^2 / R I^2=P/R I^2=0.05/300 I=sqrt(0.05/300) = 0.013A (13mA) Vrms=0.013*300=3.9 The THD is <=1% when the amp is driving a 300ohm phone (say a sennheiser) at 3.9Vrms. I^2=P/R I^2=0.092/300 I=sqrt(0.092/300) = 0.018A (18mA) Vrms=0.018*300=5.4 The THD is <=3% when the amp is driving a 300ohm phone at 5.4Vrms. How loud is 3.9Vrms or 5.4Vrms? take a test tone generator and play a 1khz freq @ 0db. Take your multimeter and take the measuremet at that volume then plug in ur headphone and give it a try. let's say you are listening to a volume of 6Vrms with your 555, your headphone is sucking up: V/R=I 6/50=0.12A (120mA) P=0.12^2 * 50 =0.72W (720mW) 50mW, THD <=1% 92mW, THD <=3% 120mW, THD <= gotta love tube amps. So, you can see from the above example that low impedance phone suck up ALOT more current than high impedance phone. Whereas high impedance phone requires alot more voltage swing than low impedance phones. That's why you need an amp capable of delivering lot's of current for low imp phone. Cmoy works better with high imp phones than low imp phones ps: you prolly wont listen to it at 6Vrms i was just exaggerating Measures: 10,5 x 18 x 6 cm Weight: 0.7 kg Power supply: 110/115 or 220/230 Volts switchable Power uptake: 3 Watts Maximal amplification (1 kHz): 10 dB Maximum output: 12 Volts Input impedance: 12 kOhm Output impedance: < 1 Ohm How can I compare like the above one? |
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Sep 7 2006, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(slacx @ Sep 7 2006, 02:29 AM) Found Corda Headfive in Headfi forum. how does it compare? you can barely tell how an audio equipment sounds from spec, they usually just let u know what it can do and how well the amp does it.Measures: 10,5 x 18 x 6 cm Weight: 0.7 kg Power supply: 110/115 or 220/230 Volts switchable Power uptake: 3 Watts Maximal amplification (1 kHz): 10 dB Maximum output: 12 Volts Input impedance: 12 kOhm Output impedance: < 1 Ohm How can I compare like the above one? the amp has a gain of 3: 20 log 3 = 9.5db(10) the amp can do 12Vrms, and has a maximum power handling of 3W. WOW! 3W vs LD2+ 35W....wtf mate? no worries...the head-five is a headamp, EDIT: Sometimes when you read the spec (and if you understand it) you will find some of them very funny. Here's one: QUOTE These headphones use high-end materials and advanced engineering for critically clean, exceptionally clear sound aimed at professional and high-fidelity applications. The MDRV700DJ offers 3,000 mW power handling for the most stringent professional applications and daily use at very high output levels. Their Neodymium magnets pack more magnetic energy per ounce than conventional Ferrite, Samarium Cobalt, or Aluminum magnets for high sensitivity and output (107 dB/mW) LMAO......basically, they are implying that you can take the v700dj, plug it into the head-five and blast it at 90% (dun go 100%) of the volume I think all you could hear would be distortion. The k701 on the other hand can only handle 200mW of power...This post has been edited by AlamakLor: Sep 7 2006, 09:25 PM |
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Sep 7 2006, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 7 2006, 01:15 PM) V=IR if the amp is driving 50ohm senn, P=I^2 * R or P= V^2 / R I^2=P/R I^2=0.05/300 I=sqrt(0.05/300) = 0.013A (13mA) Vrms=0.013*300=3.9 The THD is <=1% when the amp is driving a 300ohm phone (say a sennheiser) at 3.9Vrms. I^2=P/R I^2=0.092/300 I=sqrt(0.092/300) = 0.018A (18mA) Vrms=0.018*300=5.4 The THD is <=3% when the amp is driving a 300ohm phone at 5.4Vrms. How loud is 3.9Vrms or 5.4Vrms? take a test tone generator and play a 1khz freq @ 0db. Take your multimeter and take the measuremet at that volume then plug in ur headphone and give it a try. let's say you are listening to a volume of 6Vrms with your 555, your headphone is sucking up: V/R=I 6/50=0.12A (120mA) P=0.12^2 * 50 =0.72W (720mW) 50mW, THD <=1% 92mW, THD <=3% 120mW, THD <= it sucks up 31mA ( 3 times the 300ohm does ) and Vrms = 1.55 Vrms so, the THD is <= 1% when the amp is driving a 50ohm at 1.55 Vrms? in other words, the THD for driving 50 ohm phone is quite high although it's in low volume, right? QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 7 2006, 01:15 PM) gotta love tube amps. y u still like tubes le? |
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Sep 7 2006, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Sep 7 2006, 06:47 AM) if the amp is driving 50ohm senn, you get different distortion with different loads but u can just take it as it is (<=1%)...so yeah, around 1% THD. Compared to solid state...yes...it is very high, that's the "beauty" of tubes. BUT having higher THD doesnt mean that it will sound worse than those amps with less THD...it just means that the sound you are hearing is less original - more coloration. If you want something that sounds as close to linear as possible, you should avoid tubes.it sucks up 31mA ( 3 times the 300ohm does ) and Vrms = 1.55 Vrms so, the THD is <= 1% when the amp is driving a 50ohm at 1.55 Vrms? in other words, the THD for driving 50 ohm phone is quite high although it's in low volume, right? y u still like tubes le? why i still like tubes? I dont really like them....I was just being cynical, as usual . Tubes have their pros n cons...but at the end of the day, whatever sounds best is all that matters...it;s not the numbers that you are hearing anyway, it's the sound the amp puts out.Solid state can be modified to sound like tube(with tube buffers), but tube can't really be made to sound like solid state. I'm a solid state guy myself. QUOTE i dont see any statement that shows high or low current btw, amps are rated by their power handling capabilities. Current and voltage are components of power. You should already understand by now how much current/voltage a headphone would need by now, and whether the amp could "drive" them. There are other things people should know. Having more Gain(signal amplification) doesnt bring any benefits...but they definitely bring disadvantages. If you are designing your own amp, particularly for personal use, you should only allocate just enough gain to drive your phone to max volume you'd ever hear. Another funny thing is that many ppl think that when amp A needs only 40% volume to drive a phone/speaker to a particular volume, while amp B needs 70% volume...they's start to assume that amp A can drive the phone and amp B can't. Truth is, as long as you can get the volume you want, that means the amp can drive it..end of story. Amp A simply has more gain, more noise, and if not coupled, should have even higher dc offset. This post has been edited by AlamakLor: Sep 7 2006, 06:24 PM |
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Sep 7 2006, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 7 2006, 06:09 PM) btw, amps are rated by their power handling capabilities. Current and voltage are components of power. You should already understand by now how much current/voltage a headphone would need by now, and whether the amp could "drive" them. thx a lot.. |
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Sep 7 2006, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Sep 7 2006, 07:25 AM) gonna give ld2+ a try after this, else, gonna look for other choice.. dun wanna support my portable amp? thx a lot.. it's designed with a topology not used in any headphone amp yet and made particularly for low imp phones |
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Sep 7 2006, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 7 2006, 06:26 PM) dun wanna support my portable amp? it's designed with a topology not used in any headphone amp yet and made particularly for low imp phones   this 1?? where can find the info and spec? |
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Sep 7 2006, 06:58 PM
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soon but not so soon, I need to order parts for the amp first just to verify that the component layout is correct. then prototype boards take a week to get to me..if everything goes right...should have them in production by end of the month.
spec wise... -output impedance 1ohm -three channel configuration -trickle charger circuit -battery life should be 20+ hours or more -gain of 2 -powered by one 9V batt -integrated battery charger, can be wall powered -secret topology ( )-it will take in all low power opamps...will require four of them. (duh )-power handling depends on the opamp used, will be using 227 as std version, max current output would be 180mA with them. this sucker is made for performance...not for the looks...so they will be priced fairly. This post has been edited by AlamakLor: Sep 7 2006, 07:00 PM |
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Sep 7 2006, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE -secret topology ( )so lame  |
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Sep 7 2006, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 7 2006, 06:58 PM) soon but not so soon, I need to order parts for the amp first just to verify that the component layout is correct. then prototype boards take a week to get to me..if everything goes right...should have them in production by end of the month. spec wise... -output impedance 1ohm -three channel configuration -trickle charger circuit -battery life should be 20+ hours or more -gain of 2 -powered by one 9V batt -integrated battery charger, can be wall powered -secret topology ( )-it will take in all low power opamps...will require four of them. (duh )-power handling depends on the opamp used, will be using 227 as std version, max current output would be 180mA with them. this sucker is made for performance...not for the looks...so they will be priced fairly. looks very nice. It's going to be in a mint tin? Btw, about something you said about gain. Some opamps needs a certain level of gain then only they will be stable right? If so then gain isnt something that we should go as low as possible eventhough the user prefers low volumes right? (Example: 627BP and 637BP) Please fill me with knowledge, my ignorance begs for your education EDIT: Quote went haywire. This post has been edited by LittleGhost: Sep 7 2006, 08:44 PM |
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Sep 7 2006, 09:09 PM
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not in a mint tin, very hard to source over here. will be using the hammond 1593 plastic case, easier for me to drill the holes, and they don't really cost too much.
yup, some opamps require certain gain to be stable, it's stated in the datasheet. Sometimes it's not even stable at the stated gain. It really depends on what you are trying to achieve, and the impedance of the phone you are driving. I like to keep the gain low since most of my phones are low impedance phones, for portable amps...there's almost no reason to set a gain higher than 2, unless you are one of those freaks who wear the 650 out I have anotehr portable amp that doesnt have gain stage at all, and my PPA is configurted as a current buffer only. (less active components, cheaper, less coloration, sounds better *KISS*)I have another very tiny amp project going, will be using opa365 and requires only one AAA battery to power. The 365 is a pretty awesome chip, zero cross talk + three channel = *should be* very clean and it requires very low working voltage but can squeeze out 80mA easily. the whole stereo amp module using smd with the sot23-5 package opamp is only as huge as a penny (slightly bigger than a dip opamp) it's a very basic amp though (datasheet circuit ) |
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Sep 7 2006, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 7 2006, 06:26 PM) dun wanna support my portable amp? well. i dun know u do make portable amp for sale.. it's designed with a topology not used in any headphone amp yet and made particularly for low imp phones anyway, kinda interested now.. let me know it is on market ok? thx a lot... ( sorry yeah_guyz, mayb not LD2+ already.. ) |
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Sep 7 2006, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 7 2006, 09:09 PM) not in a mint tin, very hard to source over here. will be using the hammond 1593 plastic case, easier for me to drill the holes, and they don't really cost too much. thanks alot, eventhough i could not comprehend the bolded sentences.yup, some opamps require certain gain to be stable, it's stated in the datasheet. Sometimes it's not even stable at the stated gain. It really depends on what you are trying to achieve, and the impedance of the phone you are driving. I like to keep the gain low since most of my phones are low impedance phones, for portable amps...there's almost no reason to set a gain higher than 2, unless you are one of those freaks who wear the 650 out I have anotehr portable amp that doesnt have gain stage at all, and my PPA is configurted as a current buffer only. (less active components, cheaper, less coloration, sounds better *KISS*)I have another very tiny amp project going, will be using opa365 and requires only one AAA battery to power. The 365 is a pretty awesome chip, zero cross talk + three channel = *should be* very clean and it requires very low working voltage but can squeeze out 80mA easily. the whole stereo amp module using smd with the sot23-5 package opamp is only as huge as a penny (slightly bigger than a dip opamp) it's a very basic amp though (datasheet circuit ) |
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Sep 7 2006, 09:43 PM
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usually, almost every headphone amp that i've seen has stages like this:
input -> Gain stage (voltage/signal amplification) -> Current buffer (current amplification) -> output my ppa has the gain stage bypassed, the input is directly coupled to the buffers...so there is only current buffering (current amplification). the signal is untouched. The less active components there are, the better things sound usually since there is less coloration. Most of the high end diy amps tend to have 3 channels, Left, Right, and Ground. Most speaker amps have only 2 channels...(L&R) or otherwise they are designed to be balanced (4 channels). @yeahs4.1, yup, i make amps and some other electronics stuff, and I have alot of projects behind the scene but most of them are not for sale yet since I am currently building a portfolio of products for my company. One man show is not easy u know. I am doing this as part time..so it is really taking me very very long to get things done(almost nothign gets done *but this will definitely be made*). I will take 5 preoders for the portable amp before I order the production boards, anticipating it to be end of the month if everything goes right. I'm not gonna BS anybody about the amp, but it is designed with low impedance phone in mind, it works with high imp phones but is not recommended. I havent seen any portable phones have impedance higher than 50ohmThis post has been edited by AlamakLor: Sep 7 2006, 09:45 PM |
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Sep 10 2006, 02:24 PM
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Which one is better for my HD595: PPAV2 or Little Dot 2+ ?
Need some expert here. |
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Sep 10 2006, 08:31 PM
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Sennheiser PC150 user here
PC150 pwn! |
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Sep 10 2006, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(Hell Fire @ Sep 10 2006, 08:31 PM) Sennheiser PC150 user here haha PC150 pwn!wait til u try hd555,hd595 or 650 u will said pc150 sucks haha |
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Sep 10 2006, 08:53 PM
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Nah, it rocks for gamerse
Wait till i lost interested in game first, then i will give hd555, hd595 or any high ends sennheiser headphones a try This post has been edited by Hell Fire: Sep 10 2006, 08:54 PM |
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Sep 10 2006, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(Hell Fire @ Sep 10 2006, 08:53 PM) Nah, it rocks for gamerse yapWait till i lost interested in game first, then i will give hd555, hd595 or any high ends sennheiser headphones a try it do come with the mic is a good try might test my friend's hd555 in coming week |
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Sep 10 2006, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Sep 10 2006, 09:00 PM) yap u mean me? it do come with the mic is a good try might test my friend's hd555 in coming week coming week? dunno when i jz wanna let u try lo~ wat comes with a mic? |
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Sep 10 2006, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Sep 10 2006, 09:05 PM) u mean me? nono coming week? dunno when i jz wanna let u try lo~ wat comes with a mic? not u m i knw u?? wan borrow my minieph onot? coz currently oso din use pc150 come with the mic This post has been edited by yeah_guyz: Sep 10 2006, 09:07 PM |
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Sep 10 2006, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Sep 10 2006, 09:06 PM) nono it been a month i didn use my mini-eph, now stick more to my little dot II +amp not u m i knw u?? wan borrow my minieph onot? coz currently oso din use pc150 come with the mic |
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Sep 10 2006, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(slacx @ Sep 10 2006, 02:24 PM) Which one is better for my HD595: PPAV2 or Little Dot 2+ ? the former.Need some expert here. |
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Sep 10 2006, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Sep 10 2006, 09:25 PM) it been a month i didn use my mini-eph, now stick more to my little dot II +amp hehe me too... minieph play with my mp3 player ld2+ serve as main use |
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Sep 11 2006, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Sep 10 2006, 09:38 PM) hehe yeah right man, main source to my little dot II+, and the main soucre is match with my grado SR80 headphone (might get AKG701 to match it) me too... minieph play with my mp3 player ld2+ serve as main use |
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Sep 11 2006, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Sep 11 2006, 07:18 PM) yeah right man, main source to my little dot II+, and the main soucre is match with my grado SR80 headphone (might get AKG701 to match it) alot of review in headhi said that is awesome pair with akg701 go ur home audition agter u got it?? |
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Sep 13 2006, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Sep 11 2006, 08:22 PM) alot of review in headhi said that is awesome pair with akg701 no problem lar, u can test anything in my mini home studio. sure u kena poison haha go ur home audition agter u got it?? |
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Sep 20 2006, 12:02 AM
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Been using the CX300 IEMs for a few days now. Having some problems wearing it. I was told that to get the most out of it, you gotta make a tight seal round the ear canal. The medium size rubber doesn't form a seal, the larger feel ok, but i felt my canal is smaller. The problem is, using the larger sized rubber, forming a tight seal, after using it for 1 hour or so, and then remove it, it felt like my eardrums are being sucked out. Is this normal or I should worry? |
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Sep 20 2006, 09:27 AM
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I use PX100s. I'm a laptop+mp3 player user so they're pretty good since they're easy to carry about. The sound is nothing like the HD495 or 565, but I think that for the price I paid I've made a good buy.
kaiserreich: That's happening because you've created an airtight seal in your ear canal and there's some pressure difference cuased by your pulling the earphones out. I suggest asking your doctor if it would cause any problems. |
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Sep 20 2006, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Sep 20 2006, 12:02 AM) Been using the CX300 IEMs for a few days now. Having some problems wearing it. I was told that to get the most out of it, you gotta make a tight seal round the ear canal. The medium size rubber doesn't form a seal, the larger feel ok, but i felt my canal is smaller. i have my CX300 for 3 months now, and still don't feel confortable. for me, after listening for 10 min, i will take it out to relax my ear. try not to munch when you listen, you can hear yourself munching.The problem is, using the larger sized rubber, forming a tight seal, after using it for 1 hour or so, and then remove it, it felt like my eardrums are being sucked out. Is this normal or I should worry? |
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Sep 20 2006, 10:38 PM
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eh, i tested the hd 600, the shop wanted to sell at rm 1100 fr a demo set, looks ok but i choosed the akg 601 instead,
just felt that the hd 600 a bit too harsh sounding. dont know, sory to the current owners, i had high expectation on the hd 600 but comparing between the akg and senn i felt that the akg sound better in my ears. really confused. |
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Sep 21 2006, 02:17 AM
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ermm, i'm using HD650!!!!
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Sep 21 2006, 08:01 AM
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Sonyman,
You need to have a quiet room to show the real potential of HD650. |
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Sep 21 2006, 08:06 AM
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hi there.. i'm using hd555, well the main problem i'm facing is the comfort issue.. it's due to the sponge is too thin.. can i replace it with other sponge?
i heard that senn does provides replacement sponge for some models, which 1 will suits hd555 in term of size with more comfort? any recommendation? thx.. |
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Sep 21 2006, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Sep 21 2006, 08:01 AM) Sonyman, too bad, the shop wasnt that really quiet, so i had to turn on a bit louder.You need to have a quiet room to show the real potential of HD650. anyway i bet senn is really a good buy, but maybe next headphone, davis where do you think would be the best place to try the senn? with a good headphone amp ? is it MBD again ? does the one in kl ampang has all the range ? or just grados and a akg 701 only ? |
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Sep 21 2006, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Sep 21 2006, 08:06 AM) hi there.. i'm using hd555, well the main problem i'm facing is the comfort issue.. it's due to the sponge is too thin.. can i replace it with other sponge? wakakai heard that senn does provides replacement sponge for some models, which 1 will suits hd555 in term of size with more comfort? any recommendation? thx.. u tempted with the comfy of hp1000 |
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Sep 21 2006, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE(sonyman @ Sep 21 2006, 08:19 AM) too bad, the shop wasnt that really quiet, so i had to turn on a bit louder. Mediaplex could be the ideal place for public, but they only using integrated amp to powering their HD650.anyway i bet senn is really a good buy, but maybe next headphone, davis where do you think would be the best place to try the senn? with a good headphone amp ? is it MBD again ? does the one in kl ampang has all the range ? or just grados and a akg 701 only ? 2nd could be my house and let the DarkVoice amp throw you to heaven up up and away |
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Sep 21 2006, 09:12 AM
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Davis, you have the DarkVoice amp already? can it drive speaker?
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Sep 21 2006, 09:19 AM
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dark voice ? any picture?
sounds interesting and sounds like it can posses you after listening to it . is mediaplex the one in klcc ? where ur house ? somewhere near kl or pj ? maybe next time i going to buy headphones, i audition at ur place and test test there first b4 i proceed in buying . yeah > thanks davis, btw who's the pic in the avatar, urs or ur someones or just someone on the net. just curious |
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Sep 21 2006, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(steveysl @ Sep 21 2006, 09:12 AM) Davis, you have the DarkVoice amp already? can it drive speaker? I have listened to 337 before, that's the way how I falling in love and quickly get the distributorship (too bad sent back to China already). I has pre amp out, you can hook it to your power amp.QUOTE(sonyman @ Sep 21 2006, 09:19 AM) dark voice ? any picture? She is my teacher (piano), my ex gf friend, my friend and she is beautiful sounds interesting and sounds like it can posses you after listening to it . is mediaplex the one in klcc ? where ur house ? somewhere near kl or pj ? maybe next time i going to buy headphones, i audition at ur place and test test there first b4 i proceed in buying . yeah > thanks davis, btw who's the pic in the avatar, urs or ur someones or just someone on the net. just curious  .Yeap in KLCC. Desa Petaling. May be you can audition it at HiFi shop for better environment (much better than my house) DarkVoice This post has been edited by DAViS: Sep 21 2006, 09:53 AM |
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Sep 21 2006, 10:38 AM
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wah, such a pretty piano teacher, really pretty, too bad is ur ex not ur current.
anyway desa petaling is kind of far away, but i travel arround a lot, so not a prob, but just curious about the head amp. hehe. |
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Sep 21 2006, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(DAViS @ Sep 21 2006, 08:01 AM) Sonyman, fully agree with youYou need to have a quiet room to show the real potential of HD650. |
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Sep 21 2006, 08:15 PM
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Off topic, you can chit chat in my thread.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(stephenie @ Sep 21 2006, 06:29 PM) fully agree with you You are welcome, basically the same as have a quiet room for your Hi-Fi setup. This post has been edited by DAViS: Sep 21 2006, 08:16 PM |
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Sep 21 2006, 10:53 PM
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would like to ask.. What's the best SENNHEISER earphone for RM50 and below??
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Sep 25 2006, 01:35 AM
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wrong mesage
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Sep 25 2006, 01:41 AM
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Sep 21 2006, 10:53 PM) would like to ask.. What's the best SENNHEISER earphone for RM50 and below?? Well..wif RM50 to get the best Senn earphone.... U can try China-made Senn Oem version. Even Mx550 not dat good to koss kcs75. Except its soundstage... |
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Sep 25 2006, 02:17 AM
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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Sep 21 2006, 08:06 AM) hi there.. i'm using hd555, well the main problem i'm facing is the comfort issue.. it's due to the sponge is too thin.. can i replace it with other sponge? i heard that senn does provides replacement sponge for some models, which 1 will suits hd555 in term of size with more comfort? any recommendation? thx..  help |
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Sep 25 2006, 02:33 AM
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IINM u cant change em with the HD6X0 ones, so you'll probably have to make your own
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Sep 25 2006, 02:37 AM
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wiff grado we can buy the replacement for rm50 only...too bad senn user need to build on ur own...
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Sep 25 2006, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(junkieG @ Sep 25 2006, 02:37 AM) wiff grado we can buy the replacement for rm50 only...too bad senn user need to build on ur own... yeah right, even now i had a spare replacement for my SR80 cushion. |
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Sep 25 2006, 11:40 PM
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Barely anyone complains about the cusions in the first place, so they werent exactly expecting that to be a problem IMO
Unlike Grados.... |
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Sep 27 2006, 02:48 PM
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been using HD535 since 1998.....bought it rm300 tat time, it rox till now! ahaha
1 very annoying problem with tis is the plug to the speaker hav bad connections! always need to adjust it BTW, where can i get cushion for tis babe? This post has been edited by xtorm: Sep 27 2006, 02:48 PM |
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Sep 27 2006, 09:46 PM
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Eh... really can audiotion in your house ar Davis, interested le...
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Sep 27 2006, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(xtorm @ Sep 27 2006, 02:48 PM) been using HD535 since 1998.....bought it rm300 tat time, it rox till now! ahaha I've a HD565 which is around 8-9 years old too 1 very annoying problem with tis is the plug to the speaker hav bad connections! always need to adjust it BTW, where can i get cushion for tis babe? Yupp it has the connector problem too, all the old series has it IINM Still have not gotten around to making the cables for them... You can replace them with cables for HD580/600/650 |
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Sep 28 2006, 01:39 AM
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hmmm.....mayb chage it to even better cable?
but where to get it? btw any of u guys stay at equine park, serdang? a jusco juz open there n there is tis 1 cloth shop....cant remember the name, nearby foodcourt, its like 2 shop, 1 out 1 in, the owner is using velodyne sub...woho, nice nice low notes there, i dun mind my gf took how long to look tro the cloth |
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Sep 28 2006, 01:42 AM
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Are u sure it's worth it to change to something better?
No idea where to get them, but if you're buying ready made ones they're gonna cost u quite a lot... Try getting someone to sell their stock HD cables la |
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Sep 28 2006, 01:47 AM
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hmm how abt the cushion isue......mine is totally crack
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Sep 28 2006, 02:05 AM
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the cushion on my HD497 is shedding already :s
'outer skin' came out leaving the sponge thingy went to mediaplex and ask for replacement set it costs more than what i pay for the whole freaking set last time >_> |
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Sep 28 2006, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(xtorm @ Sep 28 2006, 01:47 AM) hmm how abt the cushion isue......mine is totally crack Same hereMy cusions are not much of cusions anymore... And they have barely any grip on my head anymore I pasted some sponge on the top to make it more comfortable on the head Thinking of some way to replace the cusions cheap... QUOTE(Beach_Boy® @ Sep 28 2006, 02:05 AM) the cushion on my HD497 is shedding already :s That leathery (pleather?) cusion stuff always goes eventually 'outer skin' came out leaving the sponge thingy went to mediaplex and ask for replacement set it costs more than what i pay for the whole freaking set last time >_> |
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Sep 28 2006, 10:31 AM
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 I've tried this.. using a cheap transport. And I must say, it sounds out of this world.. Because I've just went to audio nirvana and back.. This is how I described it. Heavenly. If I was given a choice, I'd rather die and go to heaven and enjoy audio bliss forever.. (This item is located in Singapore!) |
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Sep 28 2006, 11:46 AM
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HOLY SHI-
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Sep 28 2006, 01:30 PM
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eargasm?
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Sep 28 2006, 01:40 PM
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let's just sit back and wait for their next production model
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Sep 28 2006, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(Beach_Boy® @ Sep 28 2006, 02:05 AM) the cushion on my HD497 is shedding already :s huh? its juz 2 sponge....i rather buy another set then,,,'outer skin' came out leaving the sponge thingy went to mediaplex and ask for replacement set it costs more than what i pay for the whole freaking set last time >_> wow......orpheus, the amp looks damn nice my father is doing a prettty nice pre-amp for his valve sound system, n its has a output for headphone, gona try it out n if its nice, i gona make 1.....its pretty cheap! |
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Sep 28 2006, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(xtorm @ Sep 28 2006, 01:56 PM) huh? its juz 2 sponge....i rather buy another set then,,, its not just two spongetwo sponge plus the U shaped thingy that holds the two phones but still not worth the money >_> |
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Sep 28 2006, 02:12 PM
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waliao... daddy orpheus O_O *sembahs*
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Sep 29 2006, 09:16 PM
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guys....can anyone recommend a suitable sound card to be paired with a HD650? of course is for music la... mebbe sumthin in the range of 200 max?
would also like to know where can get it in KL (preferably mid valley IT centre) thanks alot EDIT: forgot to mention that the cans are currently running without amp and might add in an amp in the future. so sumthin thats good for both would be nice. This post has been edited by mADmAN: Sep 29 2006, 09:17 PM |
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Sep 29 2006, 09:25 PM
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U haf a HD650 already, wow
anyways, if u haf one, why set ur max at rm200, thats bull! U shud get an 0404 at least. Unamped HD650 is badddd. |
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Sep 29 2006, 09:44 PM
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I tried HD650 on an unamped iPod, it isn't as bad as you might think.Just that you have to almost max up the volume to hear some details.
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Sep 29 2006, 09:47 PM
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If you think the 650 is laid back, 0404 might be a good complement for the 650....if you really want more detail and air...get the 1212m or the zhaolu D2 if you want 1212m's quality with lusher mid range
@blackhart u will know it is not as good as you think when you amped it properly |
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Sep 29 2006, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(ijan @ Sep 29 2006, 09:25 PM) U haf a HD650 already, wow w00t!!! hang on.... the 650 aint mine... belongs to muh boss anyways, if u haf one, why set ur max at rm200, thats bull! U shud get an 0404 at least. Unamped HD650 is badddd. he sold off his <2 hour old 595 to my colleague and got his 650 from davis today hehehhehe. myself...im kinda eyeing on the audio technica AD400 or AD300 (do feel free to comment on these as well )so im asking on his behalf. as for the 0404 can someone tell me what exactly is it? EMU0404 right??? but whats that?? is that a chip? if it is what cards is it available on? kinda need a semi-detailed explanation on this as i dunno jack about what 0404 is and please also state where to buy the card... keep in mind that his budget is 200 maxas for the amp... his brother is an audiophile and may have a solution for him but have to wait til he getsback to singapore first. so amp is secondary at the moment. more importantly would be the soundcard thanks in advance EDI: read the replies again and 1212M and zhaolu D2 were also mentioned. needless to say im This post has been edited by mADmAN: Sep 29 2006, 11:47 PM |
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Sep 29 2006, 11:42 PM
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u can search about EMU0404 or EMu1212 at creative website there. it;s under professional soundcard.
1 thing for sure, 0404 is gonna cost more than 200.. good luck, good hunt |
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Sep 30 2006, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 29 2006, 09:47 PM) If you think the 650 is laid back, 0404 might be a good complement for the 650....if you really want more detail and air...get the 1212m or the zhaolu D2 if you want 1212m's quality with lusher mid range My point exactly, try it amped (i mean amped properly, no micro mini or pocket stuff amp here!) and u would take back that statement.@blackhart u will know it is not as good as you think when you amped it properly Tell ur boss la, got sum big bux on a high end headphone, need to get an almost same big bux to get a source and also roughly the same big bux to get an amp, its normal lerr. RM200 for a source, then ur boss shud haf stucked with HD555 and lower. |
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Sep 30 2006, 12:42 AM
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what to do?? he already spent so much on the headphones so he feeling mafan wanna spend more on the sound card...
so cmon guys.. gimme a good recommendation within budget |
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Sep 30 2006, 12:46 AM
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Please give me some recommendation on head-amps for HD650
currently I'm only using Little Dot II+. |
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Sep 30 2006, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(Blackhart @ Sep 30 2006, 12:46 AM) Please give me some recommendation on head-amps for HD650 Most Swear by the PPX Series by the Ruskis at Singlepower, but i guess for all intents and purposes, the M3 or M Cubed does a superb job, or the PPAv2, heck even a SOHA. currently I'm only using Little Dot II+.Well, for some reason, HD650s and Tube geeks go hand in hand. I generally assume it's the tubes softer nature that complements the HD650's low end emphasis on dark and fluid sounding bass and mids. |
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Sep 30 2006, 01:44 AM
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Don't think I can the aforementioned ones can be easily available here
.Even PPAv2 and SOHA also good enough for HD650?Then my LD2+ should be doing a good enough job here |
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Sep 30 2006, 04:48 AM
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QUOTE(Blackhart @ Sep 30 2006, 01:44 AM) Don't think I can the aforementioned ones can be easily available here The LD2+ isn't specifically designed around a headphone load and generally all they do is stick a resistor there to give the normal output a voltage drop high enough not to fry your poor cans. .Even PPAv2 and SOHA also good enough for HD650?Then my LD2+ should be doing a good enough job here Maxxed out PPAs with Black Gates, Elnas, RN55Ds, RN60Ds, Silver hookups, WBT RCA connectors, Hand matched FC JFET pairs and OPA637s are a fine way to go, although the BOM will cost you an arm leg and an ass, and if you add in a discreet power supply ala STEPS, with all the expensive Nichicons, Vishay chokes, LDOs and Soft Recovery Diodes. You can be sure that your cost will top out past insane (1.2k minimum per unit maxed out not inclusive of PSU, PSU, add another 500 tops) If you're even more hardcore, go for a balanced setup. Twice the fun at twice the price. One amp and one PSU for each channel. Might as well throw in a ladder stepped attenuator, mylar foil shielding, copper wire braids and Tyco IEM con-filters while your at it Well, as per the above, my suggestion is to go DIY, you tailor the sound to your liking, your ability to pay, your space and your needs. I'm sure there are tons of audiogeeks out there who are willing to build something to your specifications given the funds. Be it an M3, PPAv2, PRII, PIMETA, Beta22, Dynalo and Such. Although, people seem to lurve the Dynalo and it's PSU for HD650s. Anyways, i'm building a Maxed out PIMETA for backpack use , with dual OPA637s, an OPA627 in the ground, Quad Buffers per channel, Alps RK027 as a pot, Hand Matched JFETs, Linkwitz Crossfeed, Philips Soft Recovery Diodes, WIMA MKT-2Ps, Maxed out TREAD Regulator, and i'm stuck between Silmics and some old Philips caps which i bought for no apparent reason. Wanna buy lol? |
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Sep 30 2006, 09:52 AM
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Dude...all that jargons are making me go
.I'm the not the kind of animal to understand the concepts that lie beneath it's exterior as how you put it .I can't list the specifications to build an amp, someone just offer me a finished product please?? .J/K I've been spending too much on audio already recently, better lay off from upgrades for now |
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Sep 30 2006, 10:13 AM
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Hey do you already have a working PPA? Managed to build a PPA? Do you have had the time to build a PPA? At least got everything in your BoM?
I'm so stoned at college...So many amps to build, so little time and money. I'm not rich enough to put OPA637s in a PIMETA. |
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Sep 30 2006, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(Blackhart @ Sep 30 2006, 09:52 AM) I've been spending too much on audio already recently, better lay off from upgrades for now We hear it first... |
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Sep 30 2006, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(Eokboy @ Sep 30 2006, 10:13 AM) Hey do you already have a working PPA? Managed to build a PPA? Do you have had the time to build a PPA? At least got everything in your BoM? Waiting for my SILMIC IIs to arrive before building em. Currently building the PIMETA, missing a Browndog adaptor, DIP20 Socket and some WIMAs. Got any? I'm willing to trade my over stock of OPAMPs.I'm so stoned at college...So many amps to build, so little time and money. I'm not rich enough to put OPA637s in a PIMETA. |
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Sep 30 2006, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(Blackhart @ Sep 30 2006, 09:52 AM) Dude...all that jargons are making me go when you addicted to the item it won't stop...........you will keep upgrade it won't satisfied. .I'm the not the kind of animal to understand the concepts that lie beneath it's exterior as how you put it .I can't list the specifications to build an amp, someone just offer me a finished product please?? .J/K I've been spending too much on audio already recently, better lay off from upgrades for now |
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Sep 30 2006, 04:20 PM
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Knock it off guys!Must....control......POISON......
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Sep 30 2006, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Sep 30 2006, 02:23 PM) Waiting for my SILMIC IIs to arrive before building em. Currently building the PIMETA, missing a Browndog adaptor, DIP20 Socket and some WIMAs. Got any? I'm willing to trade my over stock of OPAMPs. Silmic IIs for local bulk caps!?  DIP20 socket for multiloop resistors? I just cut some SIP strips, easier to read the labels on the PCB. And those tall WIMAs, 3.3uF MKS2 costs RM13 at Farnell. Browndogs can be had from Top-gun. Oh shi- off topic |
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Oct 1 2006, 03:31 AM
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QUOTE(Eokboy @ Sep 30 2006, 06:39 PM) Silmic IIs for local bulk caps!? Told you it was total overkill DIP20 socket for multiloop resistors? I just cut some SIP strips, easier to read the labels on the PCB. And those tall WIMAs, 3.3uF MKS2 costs RM13 at Farnell. Browndogs can be had from Top-gun. Oh shi- off topic , planning solder over the resistors to make them hard so you can plug them in easily. That reminds me, where does i get high silver content eutectic solder? Stoopid pasar road Mekko solder, like sial only, lousy flowing characteristics. WTF? MKS2 so mahal?! Dem lazy to go farnell. Maybe we DIYer should get a bulk thread of sorts pinned, each person specializing in a few parts.So far the only cheap piece of equipment i've been satisfied with is my Hakko Dash and Thermaltake Volcano 7+ combo. Why thermaltake? Makes an awesome iron holder and the thin fins can be used to scrape off excess carbon at the tip. Awesome combo i tell you. Just wish i could save up for some helping hands and superepoxy |
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Oct 1 2006, 10:14 AM
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come on, a helping hand is like RM10-15 only lerr, unless ur talking bout real helping hand by rental
u scrape ur solder by using the fin, ur tip wont last long la kawan. |
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Oct 1 2006, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(ijan @ Oct 1 2006, 10:14 AM) come on, a helping hand is like RM10-15 only lerr, unless ur talking bout real helping hand by rental Kenot tahan lah, the solder just heats up so well after i scrape it. Nevermindlah, bukannye irons cost 500 ringgit each mah u scrape ur solder by using the fin, ur tip wont last long la kawan.Best helping hands? = Human lol. But if terbakar with soldering iron, kena tampar Anyways wanna ask you dudes, how good are Philips capacitors, seems to be old but in pretty good shape, designation KO 138. |
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Oct 1 2006, 05:02 PM
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Lol thread hijacked by DIYers!
DIY thread resurrected! |
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Oct 1 2006, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(Eokboy @ Oct 1 2006, 05:02 PM) Lol thread hijacked by DIYers! Not that kena Hijacked by DIYers, sometime may off the topics DIY thread resurrected! |
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Oct 1 2006, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Oct 1 2006, 08:04 PM) Not that kena Hijacked by DIYers, sometime may off the topics Just being safe here, that's all |
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Oct 6 2006, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(Eokboy @ Oct 1 2006, 08:09 PM) Just being safe here, that's all yeah right man, is good to we can have some topic bout diy here, to diy their own headphones then will be quite interesting.... |
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Oct 7 2006, 12:54 PM
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well I have to pull back the topic back to "sennheiser headphones".
Any place to audition sennheiser headphone at kl? I heard that mediaplex at klcc and midvalley offering that... This post has been edited by walabies: Oct 7 2006, 01:01 PM |
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Oct 7 2006, 03:46 PM
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Yeah you can audition Sennheiser phones at Mediaplex but I don't know if they got stock the higher end models or not.
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Oct 8 2006, 03:34 AM
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Hope I could 'request' to audition them... Haha...
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Oct 8 2006, 11:03 PM
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does the HD650 need a DAC even i were to get a DarkVoice? and why is the need for the DAC actually? someone mind enlightening me on that? currently in dilemma whether to get a DAC for the HD650?
thanx guys... |
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Oct 8 2006, 11:13 PM
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U really need to know the whole fundamental of a source, amplifier, output thingie. Wonder why are u so affixed to a HD650 when u dont know wat a DAC is and ur asking weird question. My advice to you, take turn in life slower man, no need to rush. Look up ur information up first slowly, test them out then decide, unless ur filthy rich then why bother wasting money on low end cans as starters when u can own all the flagship models of all house sound.
Regarding ur question, a DAC supplies the analog signal (the audio) that u listen to. It converts digital data, such as read from CDs into the original analogue data that we listen too. the DarkVoice is an amplifier, it amplifies or boosts the strength of the signal to power up cans effectively (its more complicated than that). A cd player for example has a built in DAC, a soundcards does too. u really need to understand the concept. |
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QUOTE(ijan @ Oct 8 2006, 11:13 PM) U really need to know the whole fundamental of a source, amplifier, output thingie. Wonder why are u so affixed to a HD650 when u dont know wat a DAC is and ur asking weird question. My advice to you, take turn in life slower man, no need to rush. Look up ur information up first slowly, test them out then decide, unless ur filthy rich then why bother wasting money on low end cans as starters when u can own all the flagship models of all house sound. thanx ijian for the frank comments...to be frank also err actually i dun own the HD650 myself...jus helping another friend of mine...i myself own only a HD595...and i dun disagree with what you commented but apparently this friend of mine well he is very enthusiasistic and eager to hear what his HD650 can do...i think it's his first high end cans...so ya first timer i guess it's like that...u jus tend to rush into things...Regarding ur question, a DAC supplies the analog signal (the audio) that u listen to. It converts digital data, such as read from CDs into the original analogue data that we listen too. the DarkVoice is an amplifier, it amplifies or boosts the strength of the signal to power up cans effectively (its more complicated than that). A cd player for example has a built in DAC, a soundcards does too. u really need to understand the concept. anyway will note down ur comments...cheers... This post has been edited by heeren: Oct 9 2006, 10:28 AM |
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Oct 9 2006, 12:05 PM
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Elite
9,856 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Kuala Lumpur, WP
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hooray! finally bought my hd600 today...cost me RM935 shipped
well still cheaper than Msia (ETA end of october though...)now...where is my balanced amp? |
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Oct 9 2006, 01:45 PM
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Senior Member
6,934 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Audiophilia valley...
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Oct 9 2006, 12:05 PM) hooray! finally bought my hd600 today...cost me RM935 shipped OMG u buying new cans again... Where do u get this cheap price? well still cheaper than Msia (ETA end of october though...)now...where is my balanced amp? |
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Oct 9 2006, 02:05 PM
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348 posts Joined: Jul 2006 From: PenangKia~
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hello ... can i ask about Sen's Headset here ??
coz i really dunno whether is worth it or not ... below are my targeted model ... hope dear LYN members can help me .. thx PC120 - PC140 -PC150 -PC 160 ... thx ... alot ... and alos recommend the one below 200 if can ... |
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Oct 9 2006, 04:47 PM
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Elite
4,424 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Singapore
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Oct 9 2006, 12:05 PM) hooray! finally bought my hd600 today...cost me RM935 shipped Ah finally gave in well still cheaper than Msia (ETA end of october though...)now...where is my balanced amp? The burn in progress should keep u occupied for a long time QUOTE(walabies @ Oct 9 2006, 01:45 PM) OMG u buying new cans again... Where do u get this cheap price? I'm guessing some US site, it's around that price on eBay sellers tooIt's cheap compared to what we'd have to pay for them over here, but not astoundingly cheap there QUOTE(jyunkin @ Oct 9 2006, 02:05 PM) hello ... can i ask about Sen's Headset here ?? If you dont need a mic, go for something else like a Philips HP895coz i really dunno whether is worth it or not ... below are my targeted model ... hope dear LYN members can help me .. thx PC120 - PC140 -PC150 -PC 160 ... thx ... alot ... and alos recommend the one below 200 if can ... You could always buy a cheapo headset for the mic alone to use together with a better pair of headphones |
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Oct 9 2006, 08:20 PM
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1,942 posts Joined: Nov 2005 From: Penang
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Oct 9 2006, 04:47 PM) Ah finally gave in Actually if you really going to do burn in, can you listen and feel the first impression first, then only compare it after the so-called "burn in" process?The burn in progress should keep u occupied for a long time It always amaze me why everyone advices burn in with long hours, I mean how hard do you think you need to normalize a pair of headphone drivers ? Maybe my ears got problem, but I swear I only hear some slight differences between first second of wearing till like 6 hours later on my HD595. Thereafter nothing much can be improved or maybe my ears are really insensitive (nice for not losing my  ) |
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Oct 9 2006, 08:40 PM
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6,934 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Audiophilia valley...
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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Oct 9 2006, 08:20 PM) Actually if you really going to do burn in, can you listen and feel the first impression first, then only compare it after the so-called "burn in" process? Some headphones doesn't need burn-in or they are not really benefit much in burn in, Some are really significant... Maybe 595 is one of them... Yeah dun waste your money in headphones ahaha... (but u got better headphone than mine It always amaze me why everyone advices burn in with long hours, I mean how hard do you think you need to normalize a pair of headphone drivers ? Maybe my ears got problem, but I swear I only hear some slight differences between first second of wearing till like 6 hours later on my HD595. Thereafter nothing much can be improved or maybe my ears are really insensitive (nice for not losing my ) ) |
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Oct 9 2006, 09:27 PM
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Elite
9,856 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Kuala Lumpur, WP
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i dun really enjoy the burn in process...im jst gonna play music and throw the phone into my cabinet
I bought it from an amazon seller for 229 + 6 shipping, then extra 19USD to redirect to me (KilJim must be sving $$ now )This post has been edited by AlamakLor: Oct 9 2006, 10:28 PM |
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Oct 9 2006, 09:52 PM
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Senior Member
1,546 posts Joined: Dec 2004
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QUOTE(Blackhart @ Oct 7 2006, 03:46 PM) Yeah you can audition Sennheiser phones at Mediaplex but I don't know if they got stock the higher end models or not. They have HD650s in stock. The models that they don't have in stock, you can have ordered in. |
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Oct 9 2006, 11:23 PM
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1,043 posts Joined: May 2006
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QUOTE(walabies @ Oct 7 2006, 12:54 PM) well I have to pull back the topic back to "sennheiser headphones". hi wallabies, are you looking for a headphone ?? what have got in mind, sorry i cant provide details in singapore. i hope i can find something or someone has post in the AKG thread.Any place to audition sennheiser headphone at kl? I heard that mediaplex at klcc and midvalley offering that... btw, how much are u looking at if u are going to buy one ? have you got in mind buying a headphone amp as well ? |
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Oct 9 2006, 11:29 PM
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1,043 posts Joined: May 2006
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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Oct 9 2006, 08:20 PM) Actually if you really going to do burn in, can you listen and feel the first impression first, then only compare it after the so-called "burn in" process? hi reno, i have experienve difference in the amount that i have burn in my 601 here, i dont know about senns but the akg's are worth burning in, it is much sweeter now compare to day one listening to the same song on the same output.It always amaze me why everyone advices burn in with long hours, I mean how hard do you think you need to normalize a pair of headphone drivers ? Maybe my ears got problem, but I swear I only hear some slight differences between first second of wearing till like 6 hours later on my HD595. Thereafter nothing much can be improved or maybe my ears are really insensitive (nice for not losing my )unless of course my ears are now deaf |
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Oct 10 2006, 12:05 AM
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Elite
4,424 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Singapore
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Oct 9 2006, 09:27 PM) (KilJim must be sving $$ now No way !)Well not until i get the Beyers first...see how things go QUOTE(sonyman @ Oct 9 2006, 11:29 PM) hi reno, i have experienve difference in the amount that i have burn in my 601 here, i dont know about senns but the akg's are worth burning in, it is much sweeter now compare to day one listening to the same song on the same output. For those who dont hear much of a difference, just dont bother about the process I usually leave em on for 20+ hours then listen to them normally Too lazy to take it slow This post has been edited by KilJim: Oct 10 2006, 12:06 AM |
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Oct 10 2006, 01:42 AM
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Elite
4,424 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Singapore
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1 of the funniest threads i've read in a while http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=202354
Wait till u get to the bottom of the first page |
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