can i be a friend to your friend?

This post has been edited by feiraron: Mar 24 2010, 06:43 PM

same here...

damn nice friend... i also wont ask my family members to play play with my headphones...

Haha, you don't hv to, you ady hv a very nice person here (Sep 90) who brought his HD800 to TT together with Amp and expensive "wires"

That is nice of him. I just know that when I try out the HD800, my gears probably not up to the task .... But first listening impressions....damn nice...tho still burnin

at last one of forummer has hd800...at least i not only the onli user here
hmmm yur friend still using the stock cable?.....must change it to aftermarket cable...
let it burn for 300 for it the treble to settle down....the rest about 500 hours to make bass more impact and midrange more fleshed out.....
i need more h800 user here.....very lonely




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Sep90, You got two of them??? Wow... well, technically it is not mine, just that my friend let me play with it until he comes back

Yea, it is still using stock cable. I did email him him about getting some after market cable to replace it as well as getting an amp. Funny thing is, he bought the headphone without reading any reviews, just thought it might sound nice since it is the latest model from Sennheiser. Bought it while browsing in a store in Singapore. The last one he had was a HD595 He had no idea how it will sounded.

That's a lot of cables you have there Which one would you recommend? From Double Helix? I am suggesting he go balanced on this headphone. And I might get the headphone later now that I have already been poisoned kao-kao by this thingy

onli 1 set is mine i not crazy to get another set ....cost bout rm6k for each...that is my other's friend hd800
the cables i testing with hd800/hd650 to test their synergy and compatiblitily....
there r DHC silver/gold mundolf, APS balanced cable,Moon Audio Silver Dragon and BlackDragon....cant remember others....all the aftermarket cables were there.....AB each one of them at Rsa Apache and the difference is noticeable even my not audiophile friend can detect straight on the spot....
yeah go balanced.. hd800,hd650 and hd600 will showed their dark side when paired with balanced setup....there is no way u going back to single ended if u heard them on balanced ....

finally!
phantom regenade's former hd650 + LD MKV arrived at my hands today
dont have DAC at the moment except onboard the stock realtek soundcard
but still enjoying it!

Placed an order for the Audio-Gd ROC balanced headamp and the DAC-19DSP1 for the HD800. Since it will will arrive before my friend is back, I will be able to test them out on my headphones.

Now that I got a chance to hear the HD800 is I am wondering now the effect of replacement cables on the HD800. This was because having listened to the HD800 and its timbral presentation of instruments (which is very true and realistic), I I switched to the HD600 with its DHC cable and found its sonic image brighter, almost edgy. Switching to the Cardas cable seem to have a more a more balanced sonic picture now. I remember reading that someone compared the Stefan Equinox on the HD600 compared to the Cardas and found the Cardas to be better and synergises well with the HD600. In contrast, the Cardas didnt go well with the HD650, and the DHC type of cables are better suited for the HD650. Maybe it's because the HD650 has a slightly darker sonic signature. There's been much discussion about the HD600 and the HD650 with the HD600 being more balanced and neutral while the HD650 is more musical. So it didnt seem appropriate to lump the HD600 with the HD650 isn't it?

I also tried out the aftermarket on the HD25-13 and found them balancing the treble and the bass now instead of being more bass heavy on the stock cable.

Anyway, I'm rambling and OTT...

I guess I could get a clearer picture once the Audio-Gd stuff arrives....can test kao-kao...

Was about to order the DHC Clone cable for the HD800 but this aspect of changing the sonic image of the headphones seems to make me think if it is a good synergy. I read lots of reviews saying the DHC makes the HD800 clearer.

So anyway, maybe Sep90 can comment about the HD800 with a replacement cable? Does it brighten up as in sharper treble or does it make the HD800 clearer? On the stock cable, while it sounded good, I detect a slight sibilance in the treble and lighter bass compare to the HD600 and HD25. ( how can I compare HD800 with the rest LOL )

This post has been edited by damieneo: Mar 27 2010, 09:49 PM

Feiraron...

I envy you...

Congrats on your new toys... I saw 'from far' how lucky you are....

dasat feiraron.. collecting gears at amazing speed..

haha

actually my money habis already when i bought the ath es10
but after i saw that deal, i make 0% interest loan from reliable source hehehe
convinced them this deal is too good to pass when i show them the brand new price..

this can remind me back of the hd555... only.. better lol..
pair with that amp, nice details become more obvious when i A/B-ing with no amp at all..

In all honesty, i can get to comfortable listening volume when i max out my zune hd volume (and all my mp3s had their volume leveled using mediamonkey, so if the mp3 is left untouched i still have volume headroom) OK i KNOW loudness does not equal to properly driven..
yes i took that as a fact..
but really, it actually dont sound that bad.. actually not bad at all compared to what i read that the sound will be from headfi.. everybody there like if u dont use amp (or use portable amp) go like "OMFG you crazy you not using the HD650 well without (insert expensive desktop amps here), it will sound soo dark, muddied, closed in blaa bla blaabla"

ok that was a slight exaggeration but still it represent the general consensus..
Im not commenting this as my final conclusion, there would be much more upgrade to the source to be done before i do that
re ripping my CD's to FLAC, and getting a good desktop DAC... then maybe I shall see what the others are talking about..

But as if right now.. my es10 > hd650 in terms of the fun factor and only that factor alone..
but that is the only factor i cared about coz i love listening to music.. not gears

now, where did my wallet go?

actually i agree with u bout the cardas cable ...i was using it to test my hd650 but it doesnt match my hd650....other way around it giving me slightly deeper bass with hd600 and spectrum is push at the center....hd650 still have the dark signature but cardas is not getting rid of the veil taste which all of us hated it
however if u put the price of cardas cable with Stefan Equinox together , i will take the equinox cos it's match perfectly with either of my hd600 and hd650....the reason is it is neutral, brighter and prat is slightly better than cardas...listening to Hotel California, Michael Jackson Beat It and Jazz managed to maintain the upper frequency that hd650 tends to rolls off (guitars double strings, and Drum rolls, etc,)

anyway, are u sure that u getting the hd800? if yes, then u should get the Phoenix for it....Roc may sound similar but since it about 100 to 200 extra i think the phoenix performs much more better for it's value
the reason is the phoenix has separate power supply which negate completely on EMI/RF inteference and hd800 will perform according to source and amp counterpart..
i think u after spending some time with hd800, the hd800 soundsignature is very clinical and unforgiven + the treble is very very sharp to u cos it's depends on types of recording (good or bad the hd800 will definetly reveal everything in it's path) + the stock cables r silver plated copper (spc) cables which contributes the edginess and sibliance highs...
the only thing u can do is get a better cable to tame down the treble and giving it more punchy bass on lower end.
phoenix is better suited for hd800 cos of dark signature and smooth background and no noise level/humming effect
the cable for hd800 is depends variely on yur type of signature....most ppl who personally know methat i love upper frequency/upper bass which has very airy presentation and have a wide space between instruments and placing
mids is the most important part for me..must not be too syruply or thick or u loses out the rest of low bass and details and not so dry u will get tired when listening to it...must be perfectly balanced or tonally right in audiophile terms
bass i think most ppl know me would refer me as a basshead..lol but i think pcworks,akabane, theng ye, enigmatic, and rest of the gangs knows me well which type of bass i going for....deep, punchy,articulate and fast bass...my oyaides/arcolinks/blacksands/crystal cables showed me different types of bass which i deeply craved for...

not the least, if u like hd800 bright soundsignature, then get the DHC 7n silver cable or silver/gold mundolf....
if u like the hd650 type of warm, bassy and fun type then get the OCC copper for it.....
silver will give more cleaner,smoother and wider soundstage/tighter bass but may be bright or clinical to some ppl
copper will give more intimate warm, smoother low end and not so sharp trebles but loses out some of the transparency

This post has been edited by sep90: Mar 30 2010, 01:58 AM

waaa.... bro feiraron already bought HD650....... So kaya......... I bought HD555 from him......

hehe... not kaya la bro.. if kaya u look at bro sep90

hows the hd555 man? good?

awesome bro!!! i'm using this cans for watching hd movie and listen to metallica ..... what can i say.... its superb....
if i got xtra money i oso want hd650 if u dont want your 650.... sell cheap to me lah

you guys should liek try a set of balanced buffers for the HD800

been hearin this balanced thingy.. but i cant seem to figure out wat it is..
mind explainin a bit? thx.

i did.... i have the burson audio sound buffer xlr balanced connected to my dac....not much difference ler.....just more musical and high r more in control....bass r aledi maxed out on my hd800....too clinical for me even to handle
aside need an extra powercord and extra xlr interconnect in between
maybe little ghost can diy a ck3 or m3 balanced amp for them to try?
just a simple one to let them know the difference between single ended topology and dual mono grounded balanced amp...

Well, it's done. After discussed with my friend, based on his budget, he said go ahead and order the DAC-19 and the ROC. Guess have to do some surgery on the HD800 cable ...got some Cardas solder around.... Darng... hope not too difficult...

ANY ADVICE from Sifus here? PcWork?

Anyway, hopefully when the items arrived I can test my HD600 and the HD800 on them....before I jump in and buy them myself! Die liao...kena poisoned like crazy...

UPDATE: Just found out that Audio-Gd will be releasing a balanced DAC that is compatible with the ROC around April 10th. Guess will hold off the order until then

@Sep90 Are you back in KL or still in Sg? Just thought of trying out your cables on the HD800/600

This post has been edited by damieneo: Mar 31 2010, 07:34 AM