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 Sony XPERIA™ Z1, Official Thread V2, 5"FHD, 20.7MP-GLens (lossless D. Zoom)

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Xperia™ Z1 | The best of Sony is about to get better

Xperia™ Z1 – All the power and smartness of Sony in a premium smartphone

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Specification:
  • OS: Android 4.2.2 (upgradable to Android 4.3)
  • Chipset: Qualcomm MSM8974
  • CPU: Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 800 processor with 2.2 GHz quad-core CPUs
  • GPU: Adreno 330
  • RAM: 2GB
  • Capacity: 16GB Internal + microSD card support up to 64 GB
  • Display: 5” ~441ppi Full HD TRILUMINOS™ with OptiContrast™ panel
  • Screen Technology: Display for mobile powered by X-Reality™
  • Real Camera: 20.7 MP G Lens BIONZ™ for mobile image processor engine, Sony Exmor RS 1/2.3'' sensor with pulsed LED flash, auto focus & Image stabiliser. Camera shutter button support, support lossless Digital Zoom. (similar idea as Nokia 808) - Sample here - http://unleashthephones.com/2013/09/12/gal...ahru-singapore/
  • Front Camera: 2 MP, Exmor R, HD Video Recording (1080p). Camera shutter button support.
  • Video: 4K Video Hardware Acceleration Playback
  • Durability: Waterproof (IP58) and Dust-Resistant (IP55), with Shatter Proof and Scratch-Resistant glass
  • Audio: 3D Surround Sound (VPT), ClearAudio+, Clear bass, Clear Phase™, Clear stereo, Dynamic normalizer, xLoud™ Experience
  • Network: LTE support for C6943 | HSPA+ for C6903
  • Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, Miracast™, dlna, MHL, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth 4.0 with A2DP, NFC
  • Radio: Stereo FM radio with RDS
  • Sensors: Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
  • USB: microUSB v2.0 (MHL), USB On-the-go
  • GPS: aGPS and GLONASS
  • Battery: Non-removable Li-Ion 3050 mAh battery
  • Battery Duration: Talk time Up to 14 hours , Standby time Up to 880 hours with Stamina Mode feature
  • Dimensions: 144.4 x 73.9 x 8.5 mm
  • Weight: 169g
  • Colors Availability: Black, White, Purple
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Xperia™ Z1 | Overview

The quality and performance of a compact digital camera
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Xperia Z1 is built with the very same components as Sony’s compact digital cameras meaning it really is the best smartphone for capturing images. Xperia Z1 combines a large 1/2.3” 20.7MP Exmor RS™ for mobile image sensor, Sony’s award-winning G Lens and intelligent BIONZ™ for mobile image processing engine.
Broadcast the moment as it happens with Social live
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Social live lets you broadcast every precious moment as it happens live via Facebook.
The most superior viewing experience
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Z1 incorporates a large high-resolution 5” Full HD TRILUMINOS™ Display for mobile with X-Reality™ for mobile picture engine. The result is an incredible viewing experience, no matter what you’re watching, with the best smartphone imaginable.
Discover the feeling of true symmetry
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Created with premium materials and symmetry in all directions, the Xperia Z1 is just as much a pleasure to look at as it is to hold.
Durability - Go Under Water
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Z1 can handle whatever life throws at it. It comes with durable tempered glass and an IP55/IP58 rating, making it waterproof** and dust resistant.


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Xperia™ Z1 | Features

When only the best is good enough

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Full HD TRILUMINOS™ Display with X-Reality for mobile

Built with the latest Sony BRAVIA® technologies optimised for mobile, Xperia Z1 comes with the most amazing viewing experience. The large, high-resolution 5” Full HD TRILUMINOS™ Display for mobile with X-Reality for mobile picture engine comes with a 1920 x 1080 progressive scan, for incredibly crisp pictures free of jagged edges. Paired with a pixel density of 441 pixels per inch, you get pictures on your camera phone that are razor sharp and incredibly bright. And since this compact digital camera comes with a Full HD display, it’s optimised to give you the best viewing experience when reliving every capture.
X-Reality for mobile

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For clearer, more vivid pictures

From low-resolution videos to high-resolution movies − with Sony’s latest picture engine, X-Reality for mobile, everything you see on your display is analysed and selectively processed to give clean, clear and lifelike pictures. Three unique noise reduction features work their magic prior to upscaling, while Sony’s intelligent display technology optimises contrast, texture, outline, colour and noise.
Blazing fast performance

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The world’s fastest smartphone processor

We’ve matched the latest Sony software with the all new, super powerful Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 800 processor. This advanced Quad-core processor is 75% faster than S4 Pro and gives you maximum power and speed with outstanding battery time – run multiple apps simultaneously, surf the web with little loading time, and stream videos without a break. The Snapdragon 800 processor is asynchronous, which means each core is powered independently. So you get the precise amount of power when you need it, without wasting power when you don’t.
Breathtaking graphics

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GPU: Adreno 330

Delivering up to 50% increased graphic performance (compare with Adreno 320), the updated Adreno 330 GPU (graphics processing unit) gives you the most advanced and visually stunning 3D games, and lets you browse the web lightning fast – all while using the lowest power consumption.


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Xperia™ Z1 | Actual Look

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4K Video | Hardware Acceleration Playback.

The Powerful of Snapdragon 800 CPU + Adreno 330 GPU. The 1st 4K Video Hardware Acceleration Playback for mobile.

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Video Resolution: 3840 x 2160
Video Codec: H.264 / AVC / MPEG-4 AVC / MPEG-4 part 10
Video Bit rate: 50.0 Mbits/sec
Sound Codec: AAC - 48000 Hz
Sound Bit rate: 317.4 kbits/sec
Download: http://d01.megashares.com/dl/qnK5jj4/HD.Cl...-inn-60mbps.mp4
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Video Resolution: 2560 x 1440
Video Codec: H.264 / AVC / MPEG-4 AVC / MPEG-4 part 10
Video Bit rate: 33.1 Mbits/sec
Sound Codec: AAC - 48000 Hz
Sound Bit rate: 317.4 kbits/sec
Download: http://red.cachefly.net/TimeScapes4K2560p.mp4
** Recommended playback via MX Player with H/W+ support & Color format: RGB 32-bit under Settings - Decoder.
** Stock Video app also can playback both video nicely.
4K Video | How big 4K video are...

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Current 4K Video Hardware Acceleration Supported Phone:
  • Sony Xperia Z Ultra
  • Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE-A (the only S4 version support 4K video)
  • LG G2
  • Sony Xperia Z1
  • Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (LTE version only) - support 4K Video Record
  • Acer Liquid S2 - support 4K Video Record
  • Xiaomi 3 (WCDMA version only)
  • ZTE Grand Memo
  • HTC One Max - maybe if only HTC decide use Qualcomm Snapdragon 800


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Xperia™ Z1 | Is the Screen as GOOD as Z Ultra? Judge yourself

They is mix up where got certain show Z1 screen still good, but nearly 90% is showing bad display due to it look like using TN/VA panel instead of probably IPS in Z Ultra.

Some said it might due to pre-production, but some user at China gfans said what they got is retail unit already.

So justified yourself whether the screen meet your requirement or not, as some user never care on Viewing Angle.

Me myself is particular on viewing angle as well the screen panel material. TN/VA panel is the cheapest panel type in TFT and it not only got viewing angle issue but as well intend given a much grayish display than IPS/SLCD3 screen.

Sony Xperia Z1 v/s Sony Xperia Z Ultra


Sony Xperia Z1 v/s HTC One


Sony Xperia Z1 v/s LG G2 v/s Note 3

More Screen Comparison

Apple iPhone 5S v/s Sony Xperia Z1
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The screen quality is ok and accuracy in color when view in straight.

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This angle is useful for me, as sometimes we do look phone like that.

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This is for testing viewing angle only, don't think anyone look screen like that.
LG G2 v/s Sony Xperia Z1
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As you can see, now even straight view, the Z1 screen quality is still not on par with G2 screen.

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Same obvious G2 screen is better.

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The output quality is complete washout once angle turn.

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Showing how washout Z1 screen, both phone in same brightness setting.


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Hm ive been quoted rm2199 for ori set arriving next tuesday. Content of the package is unknown
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QUOTE(hikashi @ Sep 20 2013, 09:33 PM)
Hm ive been quoted rm2199 for ori set arriving next tuesday. Content of the package is unknown
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Congrats on V2!

who is the seller? looks like a good deal.
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QUOTE(hikashi @ Sep 20 2013, 09:33 PM)
Hm ive been quoted rm2199 for ori set arriving next tuesday. Content of the package is unknown
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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Sep 20 2013, 09:39 PM)
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Okay, ex TS Andrewtst , here is the V2
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wow you really is v2 new TS
but not getting ps4 or note 3 meh whistling.gif ??
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 20 2013, 09:53 PM)
wow you really is v2 new TS
but not getting ps4 or note 3 meh whistling.gif ??
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if change to other rom possible still get back the sony app like the camera or infoeye ar? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(+ @ Sep 20 2013, 10:01 PM)
if change to other rom possible still get back the sony app like the camera or infoeye ar? hmm.gif
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reporting in. confirm owner of Z1, just not sure when gonna buy tongue.gif
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Wahhhh bro Andrew_1980, congrats on becoming TS of Z1 V2. notworthy.gif
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if change to other rom possible still get back the sony app like the camera or infoeye ar? hmm.gif
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but if you flash aosp rom like cyanogen etc then u will lose all the functions
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QUOTE(Hertz96 @ Sep 20 2013, 10:28 PM)
Wahhhh bro Andrew_1980, congrats on becoming TS of Z1 V2. notworthy.gif
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pre-ordered mine

wish me luck on the screen guys laugh.gif
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QUOTE(busbos @ Sep 20 2013, 10:37 PM)
pre-ordered mine

wish me luck on the screen guys  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(busbos @ Sep 20 2013, 10:37 PM)
pre-ordered mine

wish me luck on the screen guys  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(busbos @ Sep 20 2013, 10:37 PM)
pre-ordered mine

wish me luck on the screen guys  laugh.gif
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where did you pre-order?
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QUOTE(busbos @ Sep 20 2013, 10:37 PM)
pre-ordered mine

wish me luck on the screen guys  laugh.gif
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I live in east msia so...
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QUOTE(hikashi @ Sep 20 2013, 09:33 PM)
Hm ive been quoted rm2199 for ori set arriving next tuesday. Content of the package is unknown
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seller take away dock, resell = profit.
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y east msia so lucky lol. today saw 2 people mention 2199, both from em
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I do have another shop quote me 2599, standard package. Really sweat.gif
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QUOTE(hikashi @ Sep 20 2013, 11:24 PM)
I do have another shop quote me 2599, standard package. Really sweat.gif
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2199 - take away the dock - sell to customer cheaper

2599 - standard package - sell customer extra rm200 to rip off before official release


no matter how you see it both also a rip off tongue.gif but 1st one is still acceptable. if 2199 is include dock then its a super bargain
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 20 2013, 10:40 PM)
Pray yourself to get awesome set whistling.gif
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 20 2013, 10:43 PM)
good luck  laugh.gif

where did you pre-order?
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2965543&hl=

QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 20 2013, 10:46 PM)
What colour? So I can add you to.list
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When is the official release date in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 20 2013, 11:22 PM)
y east msia so lucky lol. today saw 2 people mention 2199, both from em
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you can go for this one.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2965543&hl=
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so is confirm our local set don't have headset ? because UK 1 comes with headset, but they don't have dock la


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QUOTE(boonhan @ Sep 20 2013, 11:40 PM)
yeah i just checked it. very tempting offer

but i still duno yet whether to buy cheaper online or walk in to shop after its officially released.... wanna test the screen ma
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 20 2013, 09:09 PM)
You can deny it, a lot pro tester had mention S4 is the most accurate color when you choose professional mode in screen mode setting. Note 3 no doubt will following.
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I didn't deny anything. I am saying base off the images shown on that website. LOL.

If that is the case, then that's good.

QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 20 2013, 09:13 PM)
A lot people know that, is not a big matter.

Most people change phone every two years.
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Except the problem comes even before the first year if you're a heavy user.
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Your posts 2, 3, 5, 6 are waaayyy too big when viewed in desktop firefox.
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Use Chrome la, it auto resize and fit nicely.
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Welcome Andrew_1980 as TS. smile.gif
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QUOTE(joytest @ Sep 20 2013, 10:19 PM)
Your posts 2, 3, 5, 6 are waaayyy too big when viewed in desktop firefox.
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your screen resolution too small is it
I am okay, using both firefox and chrome on my desktop computer
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both andrew take turn become z1 TS whistling.gif

btw here is the phonearena review

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xpe...1-Review_id3427

not bad biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 20 2013, 11:42 PM)
yeah i just checked it. very tempting offer

but i still duno yet whether to buy cheaper online or walk in to shop after its officially released.... wanna test the screen ma
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If the screen not good, no need to take ar? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 20 2013, 11:48 PM)
Use Chrome la, it auto resize and fit nicely.
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 20 2013, 11:50 PM)
your screen resolution too small is it
I am okay, using both firefox and chrome on my desktop computer
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I'm using a 1920x1200 monitor. I know Chrome can resize but I have a preference for FF.
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I'm using a 1920x1200 monitor. I know Chrome can resize but I have a preference for FF.
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why your resolution so weird @@
my monitor is full hd, resolution just 1920 x 1080 @@
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 20 2013, 11:57 PM)
If the screen not good, no need to take ar?  tongue.gif
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test different units until satisfied lor. or until dulan straight away get a note 3. how about that ? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 21 2013, 12:05 AM)
test different units until satisfied lor. or until dulan straight away get a note 3. how about that ? tongue.gif
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-.- same model but different unit with different screen material??? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(nantesd @ Sep 21 2013, 12:07 AM)
-.- same model but different unit with different screen material??? hmm.gif
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according to several comments la, some units of Z1 using left over panels from Z. and some say it only applies to pre production models. duno which is true. have to wait for users to get their phones and comment in this thread
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QUOTE(joytest @ Sep 21 2013, 12:01 AM)
I'm using a 1920x1200 monitor. I know Chrome can resize but I have a preference for FF.
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Haha! Then no choice and your resolution really weird.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 21 2013, 12:12 AM)
according to several comments la, some units of Z1 using left over panels from Z. and some say it only applies to pre production models. duno which is true. have to wait for users to get their phones and comment in this thread
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-.- if really is left over panels from Z, then is it count as CHEAT ??
haiz~ wish u luck then...
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 21 2013, 12:04 AM)
why your resolution so weird @@
my monitor is full hd, resolution just 1920 x 1080 @@
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Haha! Then no choice and your resolution really weird.
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I don't mind the 120pixel black bar when watching a movie.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 20 2013, 11:42 PM)
yeah i just checked it. very tempting offer

but i still duno yet whether to buy cheaper online or walk in to shop after its officially released.... wanna test the screen ma
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No arr.... 16:10 I like. More vertical pixels.

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No arr.... 16:10 I like. More vertical pixels.

I don't mind the 120pixel black bar when watching a movie.
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why don't set into 16:9 (1920 x 1080) ?
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QUOTE(nantesd @ Sep 21 2013, 12:16 AM)
-.- if really is left over panels from Z, then is it count as CHEAT ??
haiz~ wish u luck then...
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 21 2013, 12:23 AM)
I think it's quite reliable n comes with Sony Malaysia warranty
So got problem go straight to Sony center icon_rolleyes.gif
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after reading so many reviews from different website about the camera... so far only gsmarena give it a not so satisfied review. perhaps its because its the most neutral as well.


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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 21 2013, 12:04 AM)
why your resolution so weird @@
my monitor is full hd, resolution just 1920 x 1080 @@
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Haha! Then no choice and your resolution really weird.
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1920x1200 is 16:10 which predates the term FullHD. It's actually the more preferred ratio for professionals doing graphics etc. Most if not all Apple desktop/laptops are using 16:10.

QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 21 2013, 12:28 AM)
16:10 resolution, lol
why don't set into 16:9 (1920 x 1080) ?
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His monitor is most likely natively at 16:10.

Setting it to 16:9 will not achieve 1:1 pixel ratio.
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why your resolution so weird @@
my monitor is full hd, resolution just 1920 x 1080 @@
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casings and sp for Z1 haven't show up in garage sales yet hmmm. planning to buy a front and back sp before i buy my phone, apply straight away after unboxing
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 21 2013, 12:50 AM)
casings and sp for Z1 haven't show up in garage sales yet hmmm. planning to buy a front and back sp before i buy my phone, apply straight away after unboxing
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casings and sp for Z1 haven't show up in garage sales yet hmmm. planning to buy a front and back sp before i buy my phone, apply straight away after unboxing
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guys, any idea maxis will carry this or not? my Z just went dead =="
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QUOTE(Xirality @ Sep 21 2013, 12:57 AM)
Actually what's the actual launch date for this phone? Or already launch?  hmm.gif
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guys, any idea maxis will carry this or not? my Z just went dead =="
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What happen to your Z
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I'm sure they will. Usually they carry all sort of flagship phone as long as got LTE

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today i wash my phone with water, after 2-3 hours. camera appear to have mist. and 2-3 hours more, phone dead ==".
im sure i have closed my flap.
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Wow unsure.gif

Warranty doesn't cover waterproof features, you do know that right?
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today i wash my phone with water, after 2-3 hours. camera appear to have mist. and 2-3 hours more, phone dead ==".
im sure i have closed my flap.
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you suffer from the famous back panel problem in Z ?
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no more news on Z2 i guess tongue.gif

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/18/sony-...n-future-leaks/


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oh the trolling is much more interesting there laugh.gif
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your screen resolution too small is it
I am okay, using both firefox and chrome on my desktop computer
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720p screen. mine is big as well.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 21 2013, 12:12 AM)
according to several comments la, some units of Z1 using left over panels from Z. and some say it only applies to pre production models. duno which is true. have to wait for users to get their phones and comment in this thread
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the display TRILUMINOS not there, how possible they use back the same panal from Z.
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the display TRILUMINOS not there, how possible they use back the same panal from Z.
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Some camera review from a Vietnamese site.

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Some camera review from a Vietnamese site.

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Nice find.

Really some good looking macro shots there.

Edit: Except for the Onion Bokeh... LOL.. but even some SLR lenses suffers from Onion Bokeh..

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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 21 2013, 08:03 AM)
My XZU can fit well brows.gif

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suddenly early morning say can fit well, i used 1 minutes of full brain processing power to find out what exactly are u talking about.
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Sep 21 2013, 09:23 AM)
Nice find.

Really some good looking macro shots there.

Edit: Except for the Onion Bokeh... LOL.. but even some SLR lenses suffers from Onion Bokeh..
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I don't see any Onion Bokeh? Do you mean just bokeh.
Actually that's pretty much unavoidable. it has nothing to do with the lens.

bokeh is produced when your focus item distance to the lens and the background ratio is.. near:far
it can be reduced by using small aperture but in the case of macro, the focus area is very near to the lens.
even with DSLR where you can adjust the aperture to really small aperture, you will still get bokeh with macro.

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both andrew take turn become z1 TS whistling.gif

btw here is the phonearena review

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xpe...1-Review_id3427

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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Sep 21 2013, 09:23 AM)
Nice find.

Really some good looking macro shots there.

Edit: Except for the Onion Bokeh... LOL.. but even some SLR lenses suffers from Onion Bokeh..
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yeah it is some really nice macro shots...it leaves no doubt anymore thumbup.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 21 2013, 09:15 AM)
Some camera review from a Vietnamese site.

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Er.. Is it just me or what , some of the macro shots look like they are taken with an external lens? Yea , just translated it. No wonder the bokeh effect doesn't look like it came from a phone.

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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 21 2013, 09:51 AM)
this is the first time phonearena says some good things about Sony from design to interface and last but not least the camera. amazing!  rclxm9.gif
yeah it is some really nice macro shots...it leaves no doubt anymore  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif
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They say good things about Sony since the Xperia M review. Say it's smooth, snappy, works like a charm. laugh.gif
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I actually wish Sony had maintained the power button size from the Z. Looks much more stylish with the big iconic power button.

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I actually wish Sony had maintained the power button size from the Z. Looks much more stylish with the big iconic power button.
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i like the raised glass on the front of Z1 but one doubt remains whether the back of Z1 would allows water to leak in after prolong usage...
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I actually wish Sony had maintained the power button size from the Z. Looks much more stylish with the big iconic power button.
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whistling.gif mmg maintained already la..
go YouTube watch the reviews la..
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 21 2013, 09:15 AM)
Some camera review from a Vietnamese site.

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This review is misleading if you can't read Vietnamese and didn't do translation.

Those macro shot is additional attached with macro clip support.
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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Sep 21 2013, 10:30 AM)
after hearing a lot of problems in their 2013 smartphones, I wouldn't even try. Their 2011-2012 waterproof smartphones has no complain at all.
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Thats y for me these water resistance feature is a precaution in case we accidently dropped the phone into the water. But to test it by submerge it for fun still a bad idea.btw my cousin's acro s also water leaked inside when he was playing with it in the pool. And even samsung s4 active suffered from this issue.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Sep 21 2013, 10:47 AM)
Thats y for me these water resistance feature is a precaution in case we accidently dropped the phone into the water. But to test it by submerge it for fun still a bad idea.btw my cousin's acro s also water leaked inside when he was playing with it in the pool. And even samsung s4 active suffered from this issue.
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Alot people misunderstood to waterproof phone. Actually waterproof phone is built from those always worry phone kena water ppl. Waterproof doesn't mean you can put in water anytime. If died phone then who's wrong? Alot ppl put phone inside water and end up died and complain Sony waterproof technology is suck. Come on, do you have brain to think? ( I mean those stupid)
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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Sep 21 2013, 10:46 AM)
whistling.gif mmg maintained already la..
go YouTube watch the reviews la..
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I'm sure they will. Usually they carry all sort of flagship phone as long as got LTE

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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 21 2013, 10:58 AM)
Alot people misunderstood to waterproof phone. Actually waterproof phone is built from those always worry phone kena water ppl. Waterproof doesn't mean you can put in water anytime. If died phone then who's wrong? Alot ppl put phone inside water and end up died and complain Sony waterproof technology is suck. Come on, do you have brain to think? ( I mean those stupid)
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so who will be our first lucky user?
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so who will be our first lucky user?
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 21 2013, 01:14 AM)
Good thing also. To much leak no more surprises during launch event like the z1 launch... So boring and nothing to look forward

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Good thing also. To much leak no more surprises during launch event like the z1 launch... So boring and nothing to look forward
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Thats y for me these water resistance feature is a precaution in case we accidently dropped the phone into the water. But to test it by submerge it for fun still a bad idea.btw my cousin's acro s also water leaked inside when he was playing with it in the pool. And even samsung s4 active suffered from this issue.
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Normatter how hard manufacture do, water still an enemies of electrical devices.
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do you think there will be official launch in msia? and the first buyer to buy in sony get free detachable lens.
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do you think there will be official launch in msia? and the first buyer to buy in sony get free detachable lens.
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Not really. Maxis did not carry Z this year. Only low end Sony smartphone
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I don't see any Onion Bokeh? Do you mean just bokeh.
Actually that's pretty much unavoidable. it has nothing to do with the lens.

bokeh is produced when your focus item distance to the lens and the background ratio is.. near:far
it can be reduced by using small aperture but in the case of macro, the focus area is very near to the lens.
even with DSLR where you can adjust the aperture to really small aperture, you will still get bokeh with macro.
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Onion Bokeh this bokeh.

Tamron 24-70mm has Onion Bokeh.

The Nikon doesn't.

They call it Onion Bokeh because it looks like an Onion being sliced across in half.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Now look at the Bokeh on the Z1.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


But then again, if the guy was using some Macro add-on clip, the Onion Bokeh could have resulted from using that add-on.
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Sep 21 2013, 01:33 PM)
Onion Bokeh this bokeh.

Tamron 24-70mm has Onion Bokeh.

The Nikon doesn't.

They call it Onion Bokeh because it looks like an Onion being sliced across in half.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Now look at the Bokeh on the Z1.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


But then again, if the guy was using some Macro add-on clip, the Onion Bokeh could have resulted from using that add-on.
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exactly same as their written review



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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 21 2013, 02:43 PM)
exactly same as their written review


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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 21 2013, 03:09 PM)
My fren gonna buy this replace his galaxy tab p1000 lol
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har smartphone replace tablet ?
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 21 2013, 03:47 PM)
His tablet very lag now, he always complain. sweat.gif Was using his mom S4 and end up saw my XZU and he decided to buy Z1 replace his laggy Tab
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Sep 21 2013, 01:33 PM)
Onion Bokeh this bokeh.

Tamron 24-70mm has Onion Bokeh.

The Nikon doesn't.

They call it Onion Bokeh because it looks like an Onion being sliced across in half.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Now look at the Bokeh on the Z1.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


But then again, if the guy was using some Macro add-on clip, the Onion Bokeh could have resulted from using that add-on.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 21 2013, 04:09 PM)
ZU more suitable to replace the tab lol
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use z1 as tablet, really overpriced tablet rclxub.gif
later he gonna complain battery sucks.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 21 2013, 04:09 PM)
ZU more suitable to replace the tab lol
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 21 2013, 04:42 PM)
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 21 2013, 04:42 PM)
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DSLR bulky ma and has no fun features like in Z1 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Xirality @ Sep 21 2013, 01:15 PM)
Too bad. Maybe still a lot of people buy Sammy and iPong  tongue.gif
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Maxis seems not carry Note 3 this time as well. From people comment, Maxis plain carry iPhone 5S/5C only.

Maxis is fruity fans, I think Maxis shall change name to iMaxis.

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 21 2013, 05:01 PM)
Maxis seems not carry Note 3 this time as well. From people comment, Maxis plain carry iPhone 5S/5C only.

Maxis is fruity fans, I think Maxis shall change name to iMaxis.
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Sep 21 2013, 01:33 PM)
Onion Bokeh this bokeh.

Tamron 24-70mm has Onion Bokeh.

The Nikon doesn't.

They call it Onion Bokeh because it looks like an Onion being sliced across in half.

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Now look at the Bokeh on the Z1.

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But then again, if the guy was using some Macro add-on clip, the Onion Bokeh could have resulted from using that add-on.
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If you mean that Vietnam site, he is using macro ring, his sample photo is misleading and total out.

And I Don't know what onion bokeh you talk about also, I only know some lens cannot generate circle bokeh but Hexagon bokeh. But for me both got it nice moment actually.

You are looking at mobile camera not DSLR lens, bokeh output is by how many blade inside the lens, don't you think you hope too much? Thanks it can given you some bokeh effect as it is just a mobile phone.

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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 21 2013, 04:42 PM)
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DSLR is DSLR, not everyone fancy on it. It is big, heavy and bulky, not suitable for daily carry and not for every moment taken.

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 21 2013, 05:01 PM)
Maxis seems not carry Note 3 this time as well. From people comment, Maxis plain carry iPhone 5S/5C only.

Maxis is fruity fans, I think Maxis shall change name to iMaxis.
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Hahaha! Maxis must be really sad about it.  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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hmm use phone as ps4 controller with official ps4 apps
phone / tablet enough meh =.=
let see got how many button

1. start
2. select
3. joystick arrow button (4)
4. left analog
5. triangle, circle, X, square (4)
6. right analog
7. L1, L2, L3 (3)
8. R1, R2, R3 (3)

total : 18 button =_=

http://www.redmondpie.com/official-ps4-app...ame-controller/
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 21 2013, 05:46 PM)
hmm use phone as ps4 controller with official ps4 apps
phone / tablet enough meh =.=
let see got how many button

1. start
2. select
3. joystick arrow button (4)
4. left analog
5. triangle, circle, X, square (4)
6. right analog
7. L1, L2, L3 (3)
8. R1, R2, R3 (3)

total : 18 button =_=

http://www.redmondpie.com/official-ps4-app...ame-controller/
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i don't think it will follow the DS buttons. maybe it's meant as something like PSP connect or wii U controller
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i don't think it will follow the DS buttons. maybe it's meant as something like PSP connect or wii U controller
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example, final fantasy
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if the game fully use all the button then how to play @@
example, final fantasy
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maybe it won't support certain game titles ?
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 21 2013, 05:51 PM)
maybe, if not totally not working at all ...
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here's the video, using the Z1


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but didn't demo use the phone play the ps4 game
waiting ...
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QUOTE(Xirality @ Sep 21 2013, 05:29 PM)
They are the first to bring iPhone to Malaysia right?  Back when iPhone 3G.
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 21 2013, 05:46 PM)
hmm use phone as ps4 controller with official ps4 apps
phone / tablet enough meh =.=
let see got how many button

1. start
2. select
3. joystick arrow button (4)
4. left analog
5. triangle, circle, X, square (4)
6. right analog
7. L1, L2, L3 (3)
8. R1, R2, R3 (3)

total : 18 button =_=

http://www.redmondpie.com/official-ps4-app...ame-controller/
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Cool to have but not practical at all
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 21 2013, 06:00 PM)
hmm the english shakehead.gif
but didn't demo use the phone play the ps4 game
waiting ...
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QUOTE(jloi @ Sep 21 2013, 05:53 PM)
Walkthrough from Android Central


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Crash and Factory Reset at end talk by the reviewer.

Sony if not able to solve that probably silly fake hang and SOD. Sony soon will big headache with Z1 and Z Ultra!
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going to be something similar to this. skip to 4:40. as i said not all games will support control using the app


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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 21 2013, 06:24 PM)
PS4 wired? whistling.gif
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Bila z1 nk jual ni? Ada jugak terbeli note3 nti.
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Bila z1 nk jual ni? Ada jugak terbeli note3 nti.
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next week get phone they claim

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Oh didn't see that photo at all.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 21 2013, 05:07 PM)
And I Don't know what onion bokeh you talk about also, I only know some lens cannot generate circle bokeh but Hexagon bokeh. But for me both got it nice moment actually.

You are looking at mobile camera not DSLR lens, bokeh output is by how many blade inside the lens [...]
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I may not have been that clear with my statement, or maybe you missed the photo.

My comment has nothing to do with the shape, how round, how hexoganish etc. the bokeh is. Again, refer to the image below.

user posted image

It is to do with the texture within the bokeh itself. Compare between the Tamron and the Nikon. What do you see? The Nikon's bokeh is smooth and milky. The Tamron's bokeh on the other hand, has a similar texture to that of a sliced onion, hence the term "Onion Bokeh". See embedded image below in the spoiler for that of a sliced onion to see the similarity.

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Now, referring back to the image taken from the Vietnamese website, ignoring the shape of the bokeh (center bokehs are round, bokehs on the sides will be different).

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Viewing the image in the spoiler, you can see especially in the center bokeh, there are clear evidences of the Onion textures.

I hope this is clear now. I understand the mechanics of bokeh, how round it is dependent on the aperture blades etc., which is a whole different issue. I am talking about the texture of it. Not its shape.

QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 21 2013, 05:07 PM)
[...] don't you think you hope too much? Thanks it can given you some bokeh effect as it is just a mobile phone.
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Actually, I would rather it not have the bokeh if it is going to be the onion ones. LOL.

It is one reason I ended up paying extra for a 24-70mm 2.8L even though the Tamron is much cheaper. It gets really messy and dirty. But of course that's subjective. One person's poison is another person's perfume.

Edit: To place the onion photo into a spoiler so as to not affect the post size.

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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Sep 22 2013, 12:55 AM)
I may not have been that clear with my statement, or maybe you missed the photo.

My comment has nothing to do with the shape, how round, how hexoganish etc. the bokeh is. Again, refer to the image below.

user posted image

It is to do with the texture within the bokeh itself. Compare between the Tamron and the Nikon. What do you see? The Nikon's bokeh is smooth and milky. The Tamron's bokeh on the other hand, has a similar texture to that of a sliced onion, hence the term "Onion Bokeh". See embedded image below in the spoiler for that of a sliced onion to see the similarity.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Now, referring back to the image taken from the Vietnamese website, ignoring the shape of the bokeh (center bokehs are round, bokehs on the sides will be different).

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Viewing the image in the spoiler, you can see especially in the center bokeh, there are clear evidences of the Onion textures.

I hope this is clear now. I understand the mechanics of bokeh, how round it is dependent on the aperture blades etc., which is a whole different issue. I am talking about the texture of it. Not its shape.
Actually, I would rather it not have the bokeh if it is going to be the onion ones. LOL.

It is one reason I ended up paying extra for a 24-70mm 2.8L even though the Tamron is much cheaper. It gets really messy and dirty. But of course that's subjective. One person's poison is another person's perfume.

Edit: To place the onion photo into a spoiler so as to not affect the post size.
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oh. Ok, get it. smile.gif

Smooth sure look nice and clean. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 22 2013, 12:57 AM)
oh. Ok, get it. smile.gif

Smooth sure look nice and clean. smile.gif
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mmhmmm

Smooth would be preferable. I rather have no bokeh at all than to have one that's onion shaped, but gotta wait for someone to really test it. Could be an issue with the macro clip that guy was using.
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Guys, what is the rrp of this in Msia eh? Any leaked news yet? I tried to search xperia z1 in lelong.my and mudah.my and the price ranges from 2199 to 2699....mudah.my got 1 shop at penang selling at 2199 with 1 year warranty...thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Sep 22 2013, 01:17 AM)
Guys, what is the rrp of this in Msia eh? Any leaked news yet? I tried to search xperia z1 in lelong.my and mudah.my and the price ranges from 2199 to 2699....mudah.my got 1 shop at penang selling at 2199 with 1 year warranty...thumbup.gif
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official RRP - 2399 include charging dock as standard

any higher price consider as rip off


there's sellers offering lower price than RRP now for pre orders. but be careful don't get conned by tempting offers

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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Sep 22 2013, 01:13 AM)
mmhmmm

Smooth would be preferable. I rather have no bokeh at all than to have one that's onion shaped, but gotta wait for someone to really test it. Could be an issue with the macro clip that guy was using.
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I know lumia 1020 is very good in camera, but really the reviewer have to bash the xperia z1 so badly, at the same time praise other flagship like HTC one, s4, and lg g2 ? htc one capture great photo, but Z1 Not to mention that even the downsampled shots are nothing to write home about and the full resolution 20MP photos are lackluster

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_1020-review-989p13.php
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QUOTE(Stitchie @ Sep 22 2013, 02:20 AM)
I know lumia 1020 is very good in camera, but really the reviewer have to bash the xperia z1 so badly, at the same time praise other flagship like HTC one, s4, and lg g2 ? htc one capture great photo, but Z1 Not to mention that even the downsampled shots are nothing to write home about and the full resolution 20MP photos are lackluster

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_1020-review-989p13.php
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this time gsmarena is really opposite from phonearena haha. this time round phonearena give Z1 a 9.2 / 10 which considered very high for a sony phone. well i guess different reviewers got different opinions
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 22 2013, 02:29 AM)
this time gsmarena is really opposite from phonearena haha. this time round phonearena give Z1 a 9.2 / 10 which considered very high for a sony phone. well i guess different reviewers got different opinions
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i pointed out that the conclusion is biased and not fair for z1, and my comment got deleted =.=
what should i say? a very trusted and fair website for phone now turn into what?
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I may not have been that clear with my statement, or maybe you missed the photo.
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QUOTE(Stitchie @ Sep 22 2013, 03:10 AM)
i pointed out that the conclusion is biased and not fair for z1, and my comment got deleted =.=
what should i say? a very trusted and fair website for phone now turn into what?
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haha gsmarena slowly biased towards samsung and lg maybe ? lg received good review as well

but reading back their Z review, it seems they do tht review just fine. maybe they expected way too much from Z1 like certain forumers here

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 22 2013, 12:22 PM)
haha gsmarena slowly biased towards samsung and lg maybe ? lg received good review as well

but reading back their Z review, it seems they do tht review just fine. maybe that expected way too much from Z1 like certain forumers here
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 22 2013, 12:22 PM)
haha gsmarena slowly biased towards samsung and lg maybe ? lg received good review as well

but reading back their Z review, it seems they do tht review just fine. maybe they expected way too much from Z1 like certain forumers here
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 22 2013, 02:29 AM)
this time gsmarena is really opposite from phonearena haha. this time round phonearena give Z1 a 9.2 / 10 which considered very high for a sony phone. well i guess different reviewers got different opinions
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Thats why I read few review rather than focus on one review. Some of them is bias whistling.gif
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Thats why I read few review rather than focus on one review. Some of them is bias  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Stitchie @ Sep 22 2013, 03:10 AM)
i pointed out that the conclusion is biased and not fair for z1, and my comment got deleted =.=
what should i say? a very trusted and fair website for phone now turn into what?
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GSMArena is famous deleting comments against them.

That site is kind of shit long ago.
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Android Authority video quality very gooding. I dislike the plain review style like Phone Arena  sweat.gif
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Android Authority video quality very gooding. I dislike the plain review style like Phone Arena  sweat.gif
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I more prefer android authority, engadget, Pocket now and phonearena.

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I more prefer android authority, engadget, Pocket now and phonearena.

No more GSMArena after I notice they are not pro especially in camera part. Last time they can do compare with enlarging, really crap lo....
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Tech site like GsmArena , Engadget and etc2 just to check spec
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I use Google search engine randomly pick either 1 Chinese review and 1 English review. Most of the time will pick gsm arena and some YouTube.
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but yeah gsmarena certain part of their reviews sux, especially camera part. but their loudspeaker and audio quality test is good, and also their review of hardware and design aspect.


a more serious review would be from anandtech, but their focus is not on smartphones. they more on pc side
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http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4544/...eria-z1-review/
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 23 2013, 12:19 AM)
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4544/...eria-z1-review/
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but as PocketNow pointed out that in real life, we take more photos in low light and I really agree.
Check your photos or your friends photos, you might notice that more photos are actually taken indoors vs outdoor with bright sunlight.

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Lol, seriously I can't see any different except the low light comparison
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from the comparison,
i'll say there's just minor differences between the 3 under bright sunlight. but if really have to choose, i'll say the colour on ip5s excel abit.

low light and night shot... i think generally Z1 performs better

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actually i have seen quite some review about the z1, and i notice everyone's expectation is too high for the z1, even myself..
like the screen, we expect it to be as good as z ultra (which it should)
camera, because sony claimed itself the best camera in android
speaker, is better than z, but ppl expect more coz the speaker look a lot bigger (actually is smaller inside)

people always forget the z1 is a smartphone, coz every time they compare the camera with the lumia 1020, they will say how the 1020 beat the z1, but i think overall, z1 is better than all of them

you get good design (though subjective but u cant deny its ugly), slim (slimmer than 1020 and galaxy zoom), good camera (not the best, but at least one of the best)
the z1 is the balance of performance, design and function...

just my opinion
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QUOTE(Stitchie @ Sep 23 2013, 10:49 AM)
actually i have seen quite some review about the z1, and i notice everyone's expectation is too high for the z1, even myself..
like the screen, we expect it to be as good as z ultra (which it should)
camera, because sony claimed itself the best camera in android
speaker, is better than z, but ppl expect more coz the speaker look a  lot bigger (actually is smaller inside)

people always forget the z1 is a smartphone, coz every time they compare the camera with the lumia 1020, they will say how the 1020 beat the z1, but i think overall, z1 is better than all of them

you get good design (though subjective but u cant deny its ugly), slim (slimmer than 1020 and galaxy zoom), good camera (not the best, but at least one of the best)
the z1 is the balance of performance, design and function...

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1 more thing really let down, the battery... they put 3000mah inside, but the battery still not as good as other...
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1 more thing really let down, the battery... they put 3000mah inside, but the battery still not as good as other...
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- better screen (including the infamous viewing angle) - although better than Z, but not fixing the viewing angle disappoint alot
- battery life - again though better than Z, but still could be better
- better audio - again though better than Z, people expecting the sony Walkman quality type of audio (One Sony as claimed by sony)
- better camera - and yet again better than Z and so far better than many other smartphone camera, but i guess people are expecting DSLR type of quality

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QUOTE(Stitchie @ Sep 23 2013, 10:49 AM)
actually i have seen quite some review about the z1, and i notice everyone's expectation is too high for the z1, even myself..
like the screen, we expect it to be as good as z ultra (which it should)
camera, because sony claimed itself the best camera in android
speaker, is better than z, but ppl expect more coz the speaker look a  lot bigger (actually is smaller inside)

people always forget the z1 is a smartphone, coz every time they compare the camera with the lumia 1020, they will say how the 1020 beat the z1, but i think overall, z1 is better than all of them

you get good design (though subjective but u cant deny its ugly), slim (slimmer than 1020 and galaxy zoom), good camera (not the best, but at least one of the best)
the z1 is the balance of performance, design and function...

just my opinion
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Maybe that time in Z2 they show that their phone able to throw and still no dmg on it or they come out with the glasses for you to wear it so that you can direct communicate without take out the smartphone.
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Just check out the comparison photos by NZtechfreak - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446868

My Conclusion:

Outdoor
  • Nokia 808 - quite dark and dull, the photo missing light source, overall is not sharp.
  • Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - crazy sharp, a bit over sharpen but still under control, color is more warmer from others.
  • Samsung Galaxy S4 - Colorless, too bright, whole sky is whiten out. Over exposure.
  • Sony Xperia Z1 - I find it look the nicest actually, the color tone is much better than rest, well exposure.
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Nokia 808

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Samsung Galaxy Note 3

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Samsung Galaxy S 4

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Indoor
  • Nokia 808 - Awesome, nothing to complain.
  • Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - Quite ok also, but seems this time S4 is much sharpen.
  • Samsung Galaxy S4 - Sharp, but color a bit cool.
  • Sony Xperia Z1 - Weaknesses of Sony algorithm is out here! bad noise control, check the top left corner, the only show noise here. The worst output.
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Nokia 808

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Samsung Galaxy S 4

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Summary
  • Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - It might not win in all category, but it is the safer among all, no worried snapping in any condition.
  • Nokia 808 - It never is my favor since launching, I not talk about the OS, but the camera itself, I know it had crazy great lossless digital zoom but I always find it photo a bit under expose when snap outdoor.
  • Samsung Galaxy S 4 - Not my favor also as it always colorless, thanks Samsung fixed it under Note 3.
  • Sony Xperia Z1 - As usual, Sony still cannot proper control it auto mode, I believe the tester snap at Auto Superior Mode, and I notice that indoor photo has been push up to ISO 1000, that why noise appear, where others only in between ISO 125 to ISO 160. Z1 is still an awesome camera if you know to manual control handle it, by the way it is the second company out lossless digital zoom. Zoom lover will like it.
Origin file here - https://www.dropbox.com/s/l39au9dc6rvfm3n/Compare.zip
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y still compare to 808?
i'd rather see comparison with HTC One
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 23 2013, 11:31 AM)
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y still compare to 808?
i'd rather see comparison with HTC One
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Maybe the user don't have others phone.

No need compare with HTC One, frank said HTC One camera really fail, the color output is the worst I ever seen. It is weird yellowish + over saturation.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 23 2013, 11:30 AM)
Just check out the comparison photos by NZtechfreak - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446868

My Conclusion:

Outdoor

  • Nokia 808 - quite dark and dull, the photo missing light source, overall is not sharp.
  • Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - crazy sharp, a bit over sharpen but still under control, color is more warmer from others.
  • Samsung Galaxy S4 - Colorless, too bright, whole sky is whiten out. Over exposure.
  • Sony Xperia Z1 - I find it look the nicest actually, the color tone is much better than rest, well exposure.
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Indoor

  • Nokia 808 - Awesome, nothing to complain.
  • Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - Quite ok also, but seems this time S4 is much sharpen.
  • Samsung Galaxy S4 - Sharp, but color a bit cool.
  • Sony Xperia Z1 - Weaknesses of Sony algorithm is out here! bad noise control, check the top left corner, the only show noise here. The worst output.
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Summary

  • Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - It might not win in all category, but it is the safer among all, no worried snapping in any condition.
  • Nokia 808 - It never is my favor since launching, I not talk about the OS, but the camera itself, I know it had crazy great lossless digital zoom but I always find it photo a bit under expose when snap outdoor.
  • Samsung Galaxy S 4 - Not my favor also as it always colorless, thanks Samsung fixed it under Note 3.
  • Sony Xperia Z1 - As usual, Sony still cannot proper control it auto mode, I believe the tester snap at Auto Superior Mode, and I notice that indoor photo has been push up to ISO 1000, that why noise appear, where others only in between ISO 125 to ISO 160. Z1 is still an awesome camera if you know to manual control handle it, by the way it is the second company out lossless digital zoom. Zoom lover will like it.
Origin file here - https://www.dropbox.com/s/l39au9dc6rvfm3n/Compare.zip
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QUOTE(suadrif @ Sep 23 2013, 11:35 AM)
thank god finally i find camera comparison for these model
have been googling around but not yet found trustable review  notworthy.gif
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Comparison with 5S was posted not long ago - http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4544/...eria-z1-review/
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 23 2013, 11:36 AM)
Comparison with 5S was posted not long ago - http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4544/...eria-z1-review/
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never mind for all of u, but i dont think its for me
just personal preference icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 23 2013, 11:36 AM)
Comparison with 5S was posted not long ago - http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4544/...eria-z1-review/
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QUOTE(suadrif @ Sep 23 2013, 11:37 AM)
i dont feel it to be trustable  sweat.gif
never mind for all of u, but i dont think its for me
just personal preference  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I think it is trustable, all Exif is there.

But, after check around all the photos, I notice ISO is pushing up really high for Note 3 where it is under control for Z1. I don't think Samsung push that high ever base on my experience usage.

Base on previous site user compare, it is opposite where Z1 is pushing higher ISO in dark shoot - and this is what always Sony did in auto mode.

We not sure the user using what mode actually, if the user at eprice using auto mode, then Sony already fix the auto algorithm, else the comparison is unfair if the Z1 is shot under manual mode.

Short Conclusion assuming all is auto mode.

Outdoor Flower
- iPhone 5s seems a bit less expose than others, a bit too dark. Note 3 and Z1 is awesome.

Outdoor City
- I find the Note 3 the best as the whole photo looks bright and great contrast, iPhone 5s the second, last is Z1 as the Grand Theft is not clear as others.

Indoor Dragon Toy
- No doubt Z1 the best. Worst Note 3, it auto push to ISO 1000, hmm, I never seen Samsung phone auto that high.

Indoor Food Court
- iPhone 5s too dark, but well control the light source, all the food photo is clear. Note 3 is blur, Z1 the best.

Outdoor - Night Scene
- Z1 if auto mode really can control at ISO 400, then it is really great. The best, another 2 is too bad to comment.


evilhomura89 Now I know why you feel not trusted also, and eprice is always Sony fans site.

Edit: I just read the user review, it seems the user play manual mode in night shoot, in this case it is really unfair if photo not shoot in same ISO if want play manual mode. I am going to by pass this user review then.

It is obvious the user pick the safer ISO range for Z1 (ISO-400) but pushing over limit for Note 3 (ISO-1000).


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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 23 2013, 11:34 AM)
Maybe the user don't have others phone.

No need compare with HTC One, frank said HTC One camera really fail, the color output is the worst I ever seen. It is weird yellowish + over saturation.
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 23 2013, 11:41 AM)
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After see so many comparison, I think LG G2 will lost to color, their output is really colorless but damn sharp in details.


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What happen to Lumia 1020 ??  tongue.gif  sweat.gif
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Lumia 1020 just overpriced. People play android or iOS more than WP
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 23 2013, 11:40 AM)

evilhomura89 Now I know why you feel not trusted also, and eprice is always Sony fans site.

Edit: I just read the user review, it seems the user play manual mode in night shoot, in this case it is really unfair if photo not shoot in same ISO if want play manual mode. I am going to by pass this user review then.

It is obvious the user pick the safer ISO range for Z1 (ISO-400) but pushing over limit for Note 3 (ISO-1000).

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Lumia 1020 just overpriced. People play android or iOS more than WP
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until they can compete in term of apps, and bigger group of consumer, they shouldn't put the price as par as other flagship.
yes their camera is quite acknowledgeable, but price as Galaxy S4 zoom should be ok.
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http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/legal/...#camera-overall

why lumia 1020 camera looked so terrible to me?confused

or this is a bias review by sony?hmmm
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QUOTE(kaizor11 @ Sep 23 2013, 03:51 PM)
just found this.

http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/legal/...#camera-overall

why lumia 1020 camera looked so terrible to me?confused

or this is a bias review by sony?hmmm
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QUOTE(kaizor11 @ Sep 23 2013, 03:51 PM)
just found this.

http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/legal/...#camera-overall

why lumia 1020 camera looked so terrible to me?confused

or this is a bias review by sony?hmmm
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QUOTE(kaizor11 @ Sep 23 2013, 03:51 PM)
just found this.

http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/legal/...#camera-overall

why lumia 1020 camera looked so terrible to me?confused

or this is a bias review by sony?hmmm
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Ofcourse there not going to make their own product look suck.
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http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/...-Honami-review/
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QUOTE(kaisergan @ Sep 23 2013, 09:58 PM)
For anyone who interested, Note 3 vs Z1 pt.2
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/...-Honami-review/
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I see Z1 for sales already
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 23 2013, 10:32 PM)
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In store or pre-order?
I know stock officially coming in on 4th Oct.
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I know stock officially coming in on 4th Oct.
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right now the best deal for Z1 i can find is 2180 for ori set, with free gift hard casing and also 8gb mem card
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 23 2013, 11:37 PM)
right now the best deal for Z1 i can find is 2180 for ori set, with free gift hard casing and also 8gb mem card
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 23 2013, 11:13 PM)
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 23 2013, 11:13 PM)
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after launch price will reduce, hopefully...this price for AP set...
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love all the photos comparisons. But they need to review one more aspect..

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Andrew_1980 Xperia Z1 Official XDA thread is open. Probably you can put the link at 1st page.

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love all the photos comparisons. But they need to review one more aspect..

PORTRAIT PLS!!!! one of most important aspect of smartphone camera, shooting potraits!!! Humans!! Hot chicks photos!!
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 23 2013, 10:57 PM)
In store or pre-order?
I know stock officially coming in on 4th Oct.
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Andrew_1980 Xperia Z1 Official XDA thread is open. Probably you can put the link at 1st page.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2507
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 24 2013, 01:01 AM)
yea, still contemplating whether to go ahead with this deal
or wait till official sony launch roadshow..who knows they might give QX10 to early adopters during roadshow hmm.gif
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i have same dilemma with you, thinking bout waiting for official launch day and see what they offer for free gifts. if qx10 or smart watch 2 then im interested, if portable speaker then shakehead.gif

but 2138 is really very tempting for ori set, summore got free gift
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 24 2013, 01:58 PM)
i have same dilemma with you, thinking bout waiting for official launch day and see what they offer for free gifts. if qx10 or smart watch 2 then im interested, if portable speaker then  shakehead.gif

but 2138 is really very tempting for ori set, summore got free gift
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but i assume the 2138 price wont go up right, so aint it better to wait for the roadshow? just dunno when isit... hmm.gif
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but i assume the 2138 price wont go up right, so aint it better to wait for the roadshow? just dunno when isit...  hmm.gif
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what free gift on roadshow?
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 24 2013, 01:58 PM)
i have same dilemma with you, thinking bout waiting for official launch day and see what they offer for free gifts. if qx10 or smart watch 2 then im interested, if portable speaker then  shakehead.gif

but 2138 is really very tempting for ori set, summore got free gift
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u know looks like Samsung Note 3 32GB LTE is 2,399!

Z1 is 2,399 with 16GB only. hmm.gif

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but i assume the 2138 price wont go up right, so aint it better to wait for the roadshow? just dunno when isit...  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 24 2013, 02:15 PM)
u know looks like Samsung Note 3 32GB LTE is 2,399!

Z1 is 2,399 with 16GB only.  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 24 2013, 02:19 PM)
that's what im afraid of.... i scare later after launch the price increase
so 2138 is a very good price
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is there any case where the pre-launch price is cheaper than post-launch price?

AFAIK, pre-launch price is sort of a premium price where some people can't wait to get first hand to own the device
after launch, there will be an abundance of stock available. i doubt price will increase then. maybe different freebies.

well, just my opinion.
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 24 2013, 02:23 PM)
is there any case where the pre-launch price is cheaper than post-launch price?

AFAIK, pre-launch price is sort of a premium price where some people can't wait to get first hand to own the device
after launch, there will be an abundance of stock available. i doubt price will increase then. maybe different freebies.

well, just my opinion.
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however now there's seller offering 2180 for ori set with free gift instead of the rrp of 2399

i afraid after official launch the seller will change back 2399

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where do u guys saw rm2138 for z1??

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QUOTE(derravile @ Sep 24 2013, 02:30 PM)
where do u guys saw rm2138 for z1??

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still a tempting price

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...43&hl=xperia+z1
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 24 2013, 02:28 PM)
however now there's seller offering 2138 for ori set with free gift instead of the rrp of 2399

i afraid after official launch the seller will change back 2399
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hmm.gif if u ask me, only sony center sell their device at rrp. other seller, usually will sell below rrp

but free gift is really case by case basis la.

but still up to you. if you can't wait to get your hands on this beauty, just get it!
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storekini is selling for 2288 with magnetic charging dock.

not sure bout others, as they dint mention
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QUOTE(derravile @ Sep 24 2013, 02:34 PM)
storekini is selling for 2288 with magnetic charging dock.

not sure bout others, as they dint mention
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Review from gsmarena give me bad picture about Z1 camera quality. Lack of software. Hope this not true.
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seems like note 3 is much more popular than Z1..too bad note 3 is really a bit too big for me.. tongue.gif
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Ugh.. saw the video for the Z1 it's like super sexy..

Those guys at Storekini just started a pre-order today. RM2288, RRP2399, and got free dock.

https://www.storekini.com/pre-order-sony-xperia-z1.html
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seems like note 3 is much more popular than Z1..too bad note 3 is really a bit too big for me.. tongue.gif
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i used my mom's ip4s, i am totally not used to it anymore.


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QUOTE(derravile @ Sep 24 2013, 04:56 PM)
i am currently using note2, i believe its slightly bigger than note3, if u get use to it, u ll enjoy the large screen and eventually get use to the size

i used my mom's ip4s, i am totally not used to it anymore.
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 24 2013, 05:23 PM)
it's samsung as oppose to sony... what r u expecting?
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but nowadays its korean wave la.... anything oso korean trying to overdo japan now. but deep inside i still prefer japanese products
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QUOTE(derravile @ Sep 24 2013, 04:56 PM)
i am currently using note2, i believe its slightly bigger than note3, if u get use to it, u ll enjoy the large screen and eventually get use to the size

i used my mom's ip4s, i am totally not used to it anymore.
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large screen is indeed nice. But I scared of higher chances of dropping the phone and breaking the screen.

i guess i also look to the build quality as well.
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QUOTE(anechoic @ Sep 24 2013, 08:04 PM)
large screen is indeed nice. But I scared of higher chances of dropping the phone and breaking the screen.

i guess i also look to the build quality as well.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 24 2013, 05:58 PM)
sony should be able to do better than samsung given their brand heritage

but nowadays its korean wave la.... anything oso korean trying to overdo japan now. but deep inside i still prefer japanese products
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Sony should be better... They do have the potential. In terms of their design and innovation... They just need to piece everything together and let it work flawlessly...

Also there's alot of marketing to be done for sure.
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haha reason i tink of changing from note2 to z1, the build for z1 looks better
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Xperia Z1 breaks record score in AnTuTu benchmark

WOOHOOO!!!! Z1 rock thumbup.gif

i really want to see if Note 3 can break this score biggrin.gif

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Grown tired with the iPhone already. I've come to a point where I dont even bother to try to get it early. Plus, all the scalping and cutthroat pricing made me disgusted with the iPhone scene already.
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a forummer tht is selling Z1 at the following

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Dont get me wrong, I'll still get one, but I'm more excited about Z1 + QX100 combo than the 5S. Am going to Frankfurt on 26th, planning to scour Saturn and MediaMarkt there for the QX100. Release date QX100 is tomorrow in Germany.
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/24/sony-xperia-z1-review/
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I think the Malaysia version unboxing should be similar to this

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QUOTE(kaisergan @ Sep 24 2013, 10:13 PM)
I wonder why S4 can win XZ1 sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 24 2013, 10:17 PM)
I wonder why S4 can win XZ1 sweat.gif
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the battery life seems differ from review to review, would it cause by non consistent test, such as turning on the x-reality or more background apps running...
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i would recommend this phone to someone who doesn't want a Nexus, needs a good camera, and doesn't appreciate stupid and ugly OS (by samsung). and i would recommend this phone just because of THAT PHYSICAL CAMERA BUTTON
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the battery life seems differ from review to review, would it cause by non consistent test, such as turning on the x-reality or more background apps running...
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 24 2013, 10:15 PM)
I think the Malaysia version unboxing should be similar to this

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seems come with headphones, which is good
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 24 2013, 10:33 PM)
Sammy deny it.
After read the article, I also believe sammy cheat with overclock to get high score and use normal clock speed to save battery. So they get impressive high score and battery efficient.

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Hoyeah! Just checked Saturn and MediaMarkt in Frankfurt, they have stock for QX100! WOOHOO! Going in less than 48 hours! Perfect addon for the Z1! rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 25 2013, 05:42 AM)
Hoyeah! Just checked Saturn and MediaMarkt in Frankfurt, they have stock for QX100! WOOHOO! Going in less than 48 hours! Perfect addon for the Z1! rclxms.gif

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doh.gif convert to RM?
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 25 2013, 06:02 AM)
If you had to ask the price...tongue.gif It's for me anyway, those who want cheap, then I suggest wait for it to come to Malaysia. I don't base my purchases on Malaysian releases timetable.
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Damn it, the number makes it looks more affordable, do you able to have VAT return? if yes, then i believe it will be very close to RRP in MY. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(boonhan @ Sep 25 2013, 04:47 AM)
Sammy deny it.
After read the article, I also believe sammy cheat with overclock to get high score and use normal clock speed to save battery. So they get impressive high score and battery efficient.
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hmm.gif i think so too...
almost each and every time, their flagship model got the highest score among all others... even if other brand using similar spec and same processor... as we know, TW is quite resource hungry and some model is also not as smooth... but every test also they got highest score????
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QUOTE(derravile @ Sep 24 2013, 09:46 PM)
a forummer tht is selling Z1 at the following

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2969565&hl=
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Dock is not included as well
Are we getting 2 version here?

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how much does the charging dock cost usually?
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QUOTE(boonhan @ Sep 25 2013, 04:47 AM)
Sammy deny it.
After read the article, I also believe sammy cheat with overclock to get high score and use normal clock speed to save battery. So they get impressive high score and battery efficient.
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no point denying it as there's hard evidence - http://www.anandtech.com/show/7187/looking...ions-galaxy-s-4
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 25 2013, 09:58 AM)
no point denying it as there's hard evidence - http://www.anandtech.com/show/7187/looking...ions-galaxy-s-4
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this "cheat" only applicable to the S4 octa core version?
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 25 2013, 09:55 AM)
Dock is not included as well
Are we getting 2 version here?
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 25 2013, 05:42 AM)
Hoyeah! Just checked Saturn and MediaMarkt in Frankfurt, they have stock for QX100! WOOHOO! Going in less than 48 hours! Perfect addon for the Z1! rclxms.gif

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Remember to do some shoot comparison between Z1 stock camera and QX100 nod.gif
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QUOTE(boonhan @ Sep 25 2013, 04:47 AM)
Sammy deny it.
After read the article, I also believe sammy cheat with overclock to get high score and use normal clock speed to save battery. So they get impressive high score and battery efficient.
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 25 2013, 09:58 AM)
no point denying it as there's hard evidence - http://www.anandtech.com/show/7187/looking...ions-galaxy-s-4
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shocking.gif
i m surprise when a #1 top seller that beat Apple, would do something like this
but what i MORE SUPRISE is...
stupid-blind-fanboy that still defending the act of cheating doh.gif

seriously, this is why i hate samsung user, not the samsung phone. whistling.gif
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hmm.gif i think so too...
almost each and every time, their flagship model got the highest score among all others... even if other brand using similar spec and same processor... as we know, TW is quite resource hungry and some model is also not as smooth... but every test also they got highest score????
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This is nothing new with Samsung. I still remember how the S3 benchmark test got magically higher than the iPhone 5 after a period of time.
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shocking.gif
i m surprise when a #1 top seller that beat Apple, would do something like this
but what i MORE SUPRISE is...
stupid-blind-fanboy that still defending the act of cheating  doh.gif

seriously, this is why i hate samsung user, not the samsung phone. whistling.gif
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All they want is win so they can do anything whistling.gif
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Anyone heading to curve for the launching this weekend?

I wonder if they are selling to phone too >.<
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shocking.gif
i m surprise when a #1 top seller that beat Apple, would do something like this
but what i MORE SUPRISE is...
stupid-blind-fanboy that still defending the act of cheating  doh.gif

seriously, this is why i hate samsung user, not the samsung phone. whistling.gif
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that's HOW they get into the #1 top seller...

some fans will defend... others just ignore all the negative news... whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Sep 25 2013, 10:55 AM)
Anyone heading to curve for the launching this weekend?

I wonder if they are selling to phone too >.<
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Anyone heading to curve for the launching this weekend?

I wonder if they are selling to phone too >.<
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there's a launching event there? i registered for their so-called Z1 workshop for this weekend, no confirmation email yet though
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So no units will be sold on Saturday? -.-""

I hope so since there are traders out there selling it already! ><
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Ooops sorry! Yeah a workshop..

So no units will be sold on Saturday? -.-""

I hope so since there are traders out there selling it already! ><
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a lot of seller in LYN say tomorrow they can sell already... but official selling with what type of free gift still not yet announced.
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 25 2013, 01:10 PM)
a lot of seller in LYN say tomorrow they can sell already... but official selling with what type of free gift still not yet announced.
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a lot of seller in LYN say tomorrow they can sell already... but official selling with what type of free gift still not yet announced.
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which seller?
i know for some stock will only arrive in next week (1st week of Oct)
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which seller?
i know for some stock will only arrive in next week (1st week of Oct)
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Clareen and x132755 is selling this Thursday based on previous thread...not sure if there will be any delays though
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note 3 package is out already for maxis celcom n digi
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note 3 package is out already for maxis celcom n digi
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Samsung user very lansi one, for example my classmate who using Note 2, he everyday play phone infront me lol. Worrying I don't know he is owning Note 2

Na, now I lansi back him, he show mad face to me pulak lol
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hopefully maxis will bring in z1 this time
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it is good to hope but I fear you might be disappointed.... so better to pray, more oomph tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 25 2013, 02:34 PM)
Samsung user very lansi one, for example my classmate who using Note 2, he everyday play phone infront me lol. Worrying I don't know he is owning Note 2

Na, now I lansi back him, he show mad face to me pulak lol
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get a gold Iphone 5S and lansi again in front of him.. and play touch ID whistling.gif

don't give him chance to lansi u back, must lansi 2x in a row....total victory wink.gif

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it is good to hope but I fear you might be disappointed....  so better to pray, more oomph tongue.gif
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Clareen and x132755 is selling this Thursday based on previous thread...not sure if there will be any delays though
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Nop from Sony 'Dynamics" side they actually delay to 1 Oct
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Nop from Sony 'Dynamics" side they actually delay to 1 Oct
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get a gold Iphone 5S and lansi again in front of him.. and play touch ID  whistling.gif

don't give him chance to lansi u back, must lansi 2x in a row....total victory  wink.gif
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XZU is enough
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Nop from Sony 'Dynamics" side they actually delay to 1 Oct
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is Oct 1 the real date then?
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pre order mine.
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I wonder if SP for front and back will come out the same day? I think that is most important lol. Really sked to use the phone completely naked.
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I wonder if SP for front and back will come out the same day? I think that is most important lol. Really sked to use the phone completely naked.
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is Oct 1 the real date then?
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Yup, mine was promised today got delayed all the way back to October 4th. Then it's no different than the actual release date given to my Sony Style contact. Might as well stick buying from them. The only allure of getting from my current seller is that he promises release today. If that is not the case, might as well either I get one faster elsewhere as AP, or wait ori from authorised Sony centers.

Sigh, this country everything also slow......
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 25 2013, 08:10 PM)
Yup, mine was promised today got delayed all the way back to October 4th. Then it's no different than the actual release date given to my Sony Style contact. Might as well stick buying from them. The only allure of getting from my current seller is that he promises release today. If that is not the case, might as well either I get one faster elsewhere as AP, or wait ori from authorised Sony centers.

Sigh, this country everything also slow......
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Sigh, this country everything also slow......
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Not true.

Crime rate rising very fast.

Inflation and house prices too!

I'm still debating.. The Z1 is very attractive.. but I'm already on the Z.. if the Z1 has better speakers and a 64GB option, 100% getting already, even if RM 300-400 more expensive. LOL...
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wow... when will u get it?
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the same as everybody else though...after 4th of October sweat.gif
well, doesn't really matter at this time since everybody else (who bought the Z1) will enjoice together after bought the phone at the same release date laugh.gif
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My seller pay back my deposit. I made a point against him that I've asked him to confirm with me TWICE that he can get it today, else I wasn't interested. He said yes. The very act that he cant do so, means I get my deposit back as well.

I dont like waiting. I never stick to slow local releases. My phones are mostly AP units that I make sure they work with local bands. Especially critical now since I am using LTE with my phones. My Lumia 1020 however is a special case, I got it for the phone, so even though its LTE band doesn't work here (Mine is AT&T Lumia 1020), I'm fine with HSDPA on it.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 25 2013, 08:10 PM)
Yup, mine was promised today got delayed all the way back to October 4th. Then it's no different than the actual release date given to my Sony Style contact. Might as well stick buying from them. The only allure of getting from my current seller is that he promises release today. If that is not the case, might as well either I get one faster elsewhere as AP, or wait ori from authorised Sony centers.

Sigh, this country everything also slow......
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yeah la. have to wait for another week. it is boooring and I am supposed to go to Belum Rainforest on Oct 5! Not sure can get the phone in time to snap some surreal pics or not. Haizzz! the only consolation we have now is SG is as slow as us like it matters laugh.gif

QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Sep 25 2013, 08:20 PM)
Not true.

Crime rate rising very fast.

Inflation and house prices too!

I'm still debating.. The Z1 is very attractive.. but I'm already on the Z.. if the Z1 has better speakers and a 64GB option, 100% getting already, even if RM 300-400 more expensive. LOL...
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lol...i think it is worth getting the Z1. of course, reserve judgement until you see the actual unit. that's what I will do hehe..
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seems everyone here got their Z1 delayed. i was promised too to be on sale yesterday. all kena delay
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Yeah, it is, tbh... I am just giving excuses to save my wallet.. until the 1H 2014 Sony Flagship arrives... LOL.. tongue.gif
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i think the one way u can do is to cut loss...sell off your Z to buy the Z1 icon_idea.gif and if the rumors are true with 1H 2014 still using S800, the flagship price would be cheaper as well... not the stupid obscene price that is 2399 bruce.gif

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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 25 2013, 09:29 PM)
i think the one way u can do is to cut loss...sell off your Z to buy the Z1  icon_idea.gif  especially if the rumors are true with 1H 2014 still using S800, the flagship price would be cheaper as well... not the stupid obscene price that is 2399  bruce.gif
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Not really in it for the performance. I am very happy with the performance of the Z currently. I don't find much issues with the screen as well. As long as it's smooth, I'm happy, which the S800 clearly gives.

The three things that would make the biggest difference are:

Shutter Button = This is a God send, especially with QuickShot, miss it from my Acro S days

Better Speakers = The Z's speakers are absolutely horrible. Z1 improves on this, but isn't class leading.

More Internal Memory = 16GB is way too small. Getting tired of having to keep uninstalling stuff for more stuff. This is 2013.. should be at least 32GB min, with 64GB variant.
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Sep 25 2013, 09:32 PM)
Not really in it for the performance. I am very happy with the performance of the Z currently. I don't find much issues with the screen as well. As long as it's smooth, I'm happy, which the S800 clearly gives.

The three things that would make the biggest difference are:

Shutter Button = This is a God send, especially with QuickShot, miss it from my Acro S days

Better Speakers = The Z's speakers are absolutely horrible. Z1 improves on this, but isn't class leading.

More Internal Memory = 16GB is way too small. Getting tired of having to keep uninstalling stuff for more stuff. This is 2013.. should be at least 32GB min, with 64GB variant.
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true.. same Gameloft games are needing 3GB. quite crazy but won't they install to SD?

I haven't been playing games for a long time now so I am immune to it...but mobile games bores me easily so I can see uninstalling the games I don't play. what I really need now is fast switching between whatsapp, GPS, phonecall, and browser without the super ohmy.gif lag...

so wow yeah I can't wait haha
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Not really in it for the performance. I am very happy with the performance of the Z currently. I don't find much issues with the screen as well. As long as it's smooth, I'm happy, which the S800 clearly gives.

The three things that would make the biggest difference are:

Shutter Button = This is a God send, especially with QuickShot, miss it from my Acro S days

Better Speakers = The Z's speakers are absolutely horrible. Z1 improves on this, but isn't class leading.

More Internal Memory = 16GB is way too small. Getting tired of having to keep uninstalling stuff for more stuff. This is 2013.. should be at least 32GB min, with 64GB variant.
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Personally, i don't think it's a problem with the 16GB internal memory
at least they give us an option of microsd expansion

IMO, it's easier to transfer between phones
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 25 2013, 09:40 PM)
true.. same Gameloft games are needing 3GB. quite crazy but won't they install to SD?

I haven't been playing games for a long time now so I am immune to it...but mobile games bores me easily so I can see uninstalling the games I don't play. what I really need now is fast switching between whatsapp, GPS, phonecall, and browser without the super  ohmy.gif lag...

so wow yeah I can't wait haha
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 25 2013, 09:41 PM)
Personally, i don't think it's a problem with the 16GB internal memory
at least they give us an option of microsd expansion

IMO, it's easier to transfer between phones
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Yeah, MicroSD is more important versus internal memory, but more is better for application installation and all, considering you only get 10-11GB after minus the OS and other stuff. Two Gameloft games and you're already down to half.

At least give an option for larger capacities. Let those who don't need them, buy the 16GB model.
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Sep 25 2013, 10:23 PM)
Yeah, MicroSD is more important versus internal memory, but more is better for application installation and all, considering you only get 10-11GB after minus the OS and other stuff. Two Gameloft games and you're already down to half.

At least give an option for larger capacities. Let those who don't need them, buy the 16GB model.
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this is what I don't like. before Jellybean all games knows how to self install into SDcard. now they are not doing this?
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this is what I don't like. before Jellybean all games knows how to self install into SDcard. now they are not doing this?
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Not AFAIK unless you use a root/hack method to partition your MicroSD card for installation/app usage etc.

Correct me if I am wrong.
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Not AFAIK unless you use a root/hack method to partition your MicroSD card for installation/app usage etc.

Correct me if I am wrong.
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it makes the MicroSD no longer hot swapable but I doubt it matters anyway... how much is a 64GB class 10 card anyway?
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Folder Mount works, but you have to root your Android device. I've installed more than 20GB worth of games onto a 64GB microSDXC card when I had my SGS4 with its paltry 7GB free internal memory.

Problem is, rooting the Z1 now, at least when reported a few days back, will mess up the Z1 camera. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/unlo...-breaks-camera/
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 25 2013, 10:42 PM)
Folder Mount works, but you have to root your Android device. I've installed more than 20GB worth of games onto a 64GB microSDXC card when I had my SGS4 with its paltry 7GB free internal memory.

Problem is, rooting the Z1 now, at least when reported a few days back, will  mess up the Z1 camera. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/unlo...-breaks-camera/
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unlocking bootloader and rooting is whole different thing, don't worry
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unlocking bootloader and rooting is whole different thing, don't worry
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 25 2013, 10:38 PM)
it makes the MicroSD no longer hot swapable but I doubt it matters anyway... how much is a 64GB class 10 card anyway?
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It does. IIRC, doing so will also require you to use that MTP method for transferring stuff off your MicroSD, which I absolutely hate. I have never had good experience with MTP from the slow speed to the 1 file limitation as well as the inconsistency with the PC recognizing the storage.

Of course, this was my experience last year. Could have improved now, but it has still left a very sour taste in me.

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Correct me if I'm wrong then, but why would anyone unlock bootloaders other than to install custom ROMs and run rooted apps? In which this case, Folder Mount need root permission to do so?
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Correct me if I'm wrong then, but why would anyone unlock bootloaders other than to install custom ROMs and run rooted apps? In which this case, Folder Mount need root permission to do so?
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Root a phone and you have administration access such as changing the system file and stuff, therefore allow you to use rooted apps. But for unlocked bootloader, you able to change the rom and kernel, kernel is like windows bios, which is whole lot different story, it defines how the machine communicate with the software, thus allow overclocking and stuff like that. Sorry if my explanation is not clear enough. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kaisergan @ Sep 25 2013, 11:34 PM)
Root a phone and you have administration access such as changing the system file and stuff, therefore allow you to use rooted apps. But for unlocked bootloader, you able to change the rom and kernel, kernel is like windows bios, which is whole lot different story, it defines how the machine communicate with the software, thus allow overclocking and stuff like that. Sorry if my explanation is not clear enough. sweat.gif
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So, in the context of what I posted against the previous restrictions of limited internal storage and expansion using Folder Mount, I was correct then, wouldn't you agree? The Folder Mount recommendation was in response to this conversation below:

QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 25 2013, 10:30 PM)
this is what I don't like. before Jellybean all games knows how to self install into SDcard. now they are not doing this?
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Sep 25 2013, 10:32 PM)
Not AFAIK unless you use a root/hack method to partition your MicroSD card for installation/app usage etc.

Correct me if I am wrong.
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And to use Folder Mount, root access is required, in which also implies unlocking bootloader. And unlocking bootloader = messed up Z1 camera. So where does this fits in your post, and I quote below:

QUOTE(kaisergan @ Sep 25 2013, 11:05 PM)
unlocking bootloader and rooting is whole different thing, don't worry
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Simply put: internal storage low. Cant install apps on SD card. Use Folder Mount. Folder Mount need root access. To root, need to also unlock bootloader. To unlock bootloader on Z1 = messed up camera.

I dont really care about the definition of rooting versus unlocking bootloader, just the fact that to alleviate the problem of low internal storage, you need Folder Mount, and Folder Mount needs rooting, rooting needs the Z1 to be bootloader unlocked.

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So, in the context of what I posted against the previous restrictions of limited internal storage and expansion using Folder Mount, I was correct then, wouldn't you agree? The Folder Mount recommendation was in response to this conversation below:
And to use Folder Mount, root access is required, in which also implies unlocking bootloader. And unlocking bootloader = messed up Z1 camera. So where does this fits in your post, and I quote below:
Simply put: internal storage low. Cant install apps on SD card. Use Folder Mount. Folder Mount need root access. To root, need to also unlock bootloader. To unlock bootloader on Z1 = messed up camera.

I dont really care about the definition of rooting versus unlocking bootloader, just the fact that to alleviate the problem of low internal storage, you need Folder Mount, and Folder Mount needs rooting, rooting needs the Z1 to be bootloader unlocked.
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You do not need to unlock bootloader to root a device
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 26 2013, 12:19 AM)
Okay, I guess I stand corrected. All these while I thought they both go hand in hand. All the instructions I went through to root my devices involves unlocking bootloader.
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This usually when you are changing kernel or custom roms
there's some custom roms that can be done with locked bootloader.



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This usually when you are changing kernel or custom roms
there's some custom roms that can be done with locked bootloader.
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In the case of having the to install Folder Mount app that requires root, would bypassing the need to unlock bootloader works? Coz of the camera issue mentioned previously.
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In the case of having the to install Folder Mount app that requires root, would bypassing the need to unlock bootloader works? Coz of the camera issue mentioned previously.
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the short answer is no.

in fact as other forumers pointed out, you don't need to unlock your bootloader to root because they are not even on the same level. in a nutshell,
root - gives you full control of your OS
unlock bootloader - opens up the limit of bootloader, which when locked, is only able to load stock ROM


the fact that you asked this question shows you don't really understand what is root and unlock bootloader yet. let me explain more in detail if you don't mind, otherwise you can skip it. wink.gif


what is root vs unlocking bootloader?
root
root allows you to add superuser permission which gives you full control of your Operating System (more commonly referred to as ROM in Android community. That's it.
Once you have full control of your OS, you can also take full control of your hardware, such as overclocking, disabling the GPS, etc, but of course you need apps to do so. This is the same with the Folder Mount app.

unlock bootloader
bootloader is a program that loads the kernel and ROM. It is locked because manufacturers don't want you to simply install custom kernel. When you unlock it, then you can flash custom kernel, but it will be at your own risk because the warranty will be void.

In Sony's case, when you unlock the bootloader, they simply program it to auto-delete the DRM files thus render some apps useless, in the Z Ultra and Z1's case, the camera app too. luckily some XDA developer members have found some way to back it up unlike 2 years ago, there's no way to back it up at all.

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thanks. I don't understand half of that, I'd rather follow simpler steps on how to install apps, and most of them require bootloader unlocking.

Forlder Mount was a suggestion for the previously discussed conversation between the two people I quoted before. I'm happy with my 16GB.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 26 2013, 06:59 AM)
thanks. I don't understand half of that, I'd rather follow simpler steps on how to install apps, and most of them require bootloader unlocking.

Forlder Mount was a suggestion for the previously discussed conversation between the two people I quoted before. I'm happy with my 16GB.
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do you mind linking the instructions? let me have a look at what you have been looking at.
I mean the instructions to root.

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do you mind linking the instructions? let me have a look at what you have been looking at.
I mean the instructions to root.
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so this phone, feel any difference from other phones? anything special besides the 4k recording, hows the 4k recording anyway, anyone has ultra hd tv?


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I wonder if the demo sets are out at Sony Centres. My hand very itchy want to play the phone.
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I wonder if the demo sets are out at Sony Centres. My hand very itchy want to play the phone.
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so this phone, feel any difference from other phones? anything special besides the 4k recording, hows the 4k recording anyway, anyone has ultra hd tv?
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there is no 4k recording in Z1
Z1 special because it come with bigger camera sensor (1/2.3"), Sony BIONZ imaging processing, G lens and also all the features in the camera (time shift burst, AR effect etc).
Waterproof at IP58, triluminos display and X-reality (their TV Technology)

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there is no 4k recording in Z1
Z1 special because it come with bugger camera sensor  (1/2.3"), Sony BIONZ imaging processing, G lens and also all the features in the camera (time shift burst, AR effect etc).
Waterproof at IP58, triluminos display and X-reality (their TV Technology)
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is this good or bad? rolleyes.gif
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is this good or bad?  rolleyes.gif
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saw sum review in Gfan china website. most of the user complaint the TFT screen..malaysia set wil be same as them rite?
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saw sum review in Gfan china website. most of the user complaint the TFT screen..malaysia set wil be same as them rite?
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y? viewing angle issue?
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yea.. viewing angle plus blur screen.i duno how true is tat as i haven seen the phone yet.
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viewing angle already known issue.

blur screen? what do they mean?
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viewing angle already known issue.

blur screen? what do they mean?
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Text is sharp and crisp on d unit i play that day on launch
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yes i know that too. blur screen as in the text on the screen feel blurred.
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any picture to show the blur screen?
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Text is sharp and crisp on d unit i play that day on launch
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any picture to show the blur screen?
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they just described. lets wait for the phone arrive n try it out! biggrin.gif
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they just described. lets wait for the phone arrive n try it out! biggrin.gif
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Are you seriously asking this question?  unsure.gif They are paid to saying things, simple as that. Applicable in marketing, politics, and more propaganda function..... sweat.gif
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ROI just started at Sony Malaysia www.sony.com.my website. Exactly a week before launch date of October 4th.
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ROI just started at Sony Malaysia www.sony.com.my website. Exactly a week before launch date of October 4th.
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what's the purpose of the ROI? discount? freebies?
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To see the response of Malaysian buyer.

If the ROI register little interest, Sony will reduce price of its handset.

For Note 3, ROI is quite high. Samsung increase RRP to RM2399 from RM2299.
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To see the response of Malaysian buyer.

If the ROI register little interest, Sony will reduce price of its handset.

For Note 3, ROI is quite high. Samsung increase RRP to RM2399 from RM2299.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 26 2013, 01:52 PM)
To see the response of Malaysian buyer.

If the ROI register little interest, Sony will reduce price of its handset.

For Note 3, ROI is quite high. Samsung increase RRP to RM2399 from RM2299.
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the demand so high for note 3.
if ROI rrp price is rm2399 without freebies, why people buy from sony when they can get from other seller with cheaper price.
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the demand so high for note 3.
if ROI rrp price is rm2399 without freebies, why people buy from sony when they can get from other seller with cheaper price.
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some still prefer to buy from sony center, mainly cos don't want to worry about getting cheated by some dishonest seller. they rather pay the extra 100/200/300 for a worry-free purchases.
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QUOTE(boonhan @ Sep 26 2013, 02:17 PM)
the demand so high for note 3.
if ROI rrp price is rm2399 without freebies, why people buy from sony when they can get from other seller with cheaper price.
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some still prefer to buy from sony center, mainly cos don't want to worry about getting cheated by some dishonest seller. they rather pay the extra 100/200/300 for a worry-free purchases.
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I think is Samsung centre laugh.gif
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Hi guys, does Sony phones had the function testing program sorta thing?

HTC - *#*#3424#*#*
Samsung- *#0*#
Sony?
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Hi guys, does Sony phones had the function testing program sorta thing?

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534 firmware update for Z1

1.線控耳機的BUG修正 (Bug for earphone fixed)

2.相機噪點改善讚 (Noise reduction in camera improved)

3.錄影卡頓及發熱情況改善 (Less laggy in video recording and better heat dissipation)

4.似乎螢幕有做調整..有些人變暖了 但有些人反而變冷..鬼 (damn, screen white balance seems change, some to warm, some to cold)

5.通話錄音1秒BUG修正 (phone call recording bug fixed)

get from mobile01
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QUOTE(kaisergan @ Sep 26 2013, 04:42 PM)
534 firmware update for Z1

1.線控耳機的BUG修正 (Bug for earphone fixed)

2.相機噪點改善讚 (Noise reduction in camera improved)

3.錄影卡頓及發熱情況改善 (Less laggy in video recording and better heat dissipation)

4.似乎螢幕有做調整..有些人變暖了 但有些人反而變冷..鬼 (damn, screen white balance seems change, some to warm, some to cold)

5.通話錄音1秒BUG修正 (phone call recording bug fixed)

get from mobile01
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Some camera tweak? Can't wait to see what the outcome.
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just got the confirmation from sony. going to the z1 workshop this saturday!

can't wait to get my hands on this beauty
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QUOTE(kaisergan @ Sep 26 2013, 04:42 PM)
534 firmware update for Z1

1.線控耳機的BUG修正 (Bug for earphone fixed)

2.相機噪點改善讚 (Noise reduction in camera improved)

3.錄影卡頓及發熱情況改善 (Less laggy in video recording and better heat dissipation)

4.似乎螢幕有做調整..有些人變暖了 但有些人反而變冷..鬼 (damn, screen white balance seems change, some to warm, some to cold)

5.通話錄音1秒BUG修正 (phone call recording bug fixed)

get from mobile01
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jelly ppl already got update liao we phone box also never seen 1 here sad.gif
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 26 2013, 05:32 PM)
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just got the confirmation from sony. going to the z1 workshop this saturday!

can't wait to get my hands on this beauty
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where is the workshop located, private event ?
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just got the confirmation from sony. going to the z1 workshop this saturday!

can't wait to get my hands on this beauty
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by invitation only ar? sad.gif
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where is the workshop located, private event ?
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by invitation only ar?  sad.gif
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i registered to sony newsletter or something few months ago... monday they sent me an email invitation for the workshop, then i just register lor. today got confirmation.

the workshop at the curve sony center. they have a few sessions on this saturday and sunday
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I'll just leave these here. could not wait for the ori anymore.

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Two. One for the phone, the other for the QX100 I'm getting from Frankfurt tonight.

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Top two cameras on smartphones.

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 26 2013, 07:47 PM)
I'll just leave these here. could not wait for the ori anymore.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 26 2013, 07:47 PM)
I'll just leave these here. could not wait for the ori anymore.

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Two. One for the phone, the other for the QX100 I'm getting from Frankfurt tonight.

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Top two cameras on smartphones.

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Smile!

Gotta go. Packing for work.
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here comes the first owner of z1! congrats
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Viewing angle!!!! rolleyes.gif
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so much temptations~
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another sharing,

1020 vs note 3 vs Z1 vs butterfly S camera comparison

http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4529/...-Honami-review/
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QUOTE(kaisergan @ Sep 26 2013, 09:30 PM)
another sharing,

1020 vs note 3 vs Z1 vs butterfly S camera comparison

http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4529/...-Honami-review/
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If I get z1 I think I'll just use superior auto mode. Though only 8mp but I think the pic looks nicer
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Sep 26 2013, 07:47 PM)
I'll just leave these here. could not wait for the ori anymore.

user posted image

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Two. One for the phone, the other for the QX100 I'm getting from Frankfurt tonight.

user posted image
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Top two cameras on smartphones.

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Smile!

Gotta go. Packing for work.
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Wow... 1st owner here. Do write a short review of what you think about this phone
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think he flew of for frankfurt germany haha
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argh~~~ please upload some photo for the screen colour and contrast...
i dun mind the view angle but the colour and contrast~~ drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif


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patience patience
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@string

where did u get your unit?
how's the viewing angle?
your set doesn't come with the dock right?
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I'm kinda disappointed at z1 camera

put lumia 1020 this non android phone aside

look at note 3's camera and spec, seems like a better choice than z1 sleep.gif
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QUOTE(squall0833 @ Sep 27 2013, 02:20 AM)
I'm kinda disappointed at z1 camera

put lumia 1020 this non android phone aside

look at note 3's camera and spec, seems like a better choice than z1 sleep.gif
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And cheaper too
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 27 2013, 02:43 AM)
And cheaper too
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I'm using LG Optimus 2x with CM10.2 (4.2.2)
and a Note 2 (got it as a gift from bank for reached an transfer amount)

only use note 2 surfing when I feel like to , big screen XD

still use O2x as main, after mod, it's slightly smoother than my sis's S3 with stock rom, even though my O2x just a dual core 1.0Ghz(OC 1.5Ghz) phone


I was expecting Z is good, then soso, now expecting Z1, but camera disappointed me compare to note 3 sad.gif


note 3 looks good biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(squall0833 @ Sep 27 2013, 02:49 AM)
I'm using LG Optimus 2x with CM10.2 (4.2.2)
and a Note 2 (got it as a gift from bank for reached an transfer amount)

only use note 2 surfing when I feel like to , big screen XD

still use O2x as main, after mod, it's slightly smoother than my sis's S3 with stock rom, even though my O2x just a dual core 1.0Ghz(OC 1.5Ghz) phone
I was expecting Z is good, then soso,  now expecting Z1, but camera disappointed me compare to note 3 sad.gif
note 3 looks good biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kaisergan @ Sep 26 2013, 09:30 PM)
another sharing,

1020 vs note 3 vs Z1 vs butterfly S camera comparison

http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4529/...-Honami-review/
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Lumia 1020 body like a banana lololol!

Btw, Lumia 1020 is damn nice, only price bad. 2.2k for WP, I guess most people will go for Android or iphone
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 27 2013, 06:50 AM)
Lumia 1020 body like a banana lololol!

Btw, Lumia 1020 is damn nice, only price bad. 2.2k for WP, I guess most people will go for Android or iphone
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Agreed.

Nokia was sabotaged with that Trojan Horse of a CEO. WTF man.. from Micro$oft, join Nokia.. screws it up, and then Micro$oft buys Nokia for cheap and he goes back to Micro$soft.. =\

Micro$oft is not afraid at all man, doing all these right in the open.

If they didn't had that idiot and went for Android, they would be out there with the likes of Sony/LG at least by now.

They have nice hardware, good build quality, and best in class camera.
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QUOTE(squall0833 @ Sep 27 2013, 02:20 AM)
I'm kinda disappointed at z1 camera

put lumia 1020 this non android phone aside

look at note 3's camera and spec, seems like a better choice than z1 sleep.gif
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how do you come up with the conclusion that note3 camera better?
AFAIK, there isn't much compasiron pic between note3 adnd z1 yet (i too hope to see more comparison between these 2 beasts)
thus far most of the time z1 only compares to 1020, which of course 1020 is better cos it did have a better camera spec.
the pic just shared by eprice... it's said z1 is set to manual mode and no changes whatsoever. so, the ISO, white balance and all are set and doesn't change according to scenario. whereas all other phone model are set to auto and changes the setting according to scenario.
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Sep 27 2013, 07:30 AM)
Agreed.

Nokia was sabotaged with that Trojan Horse of a CEO. WTF man.. from Micro$oft, join Nokia.. screws it up, and then Micro$oft buys Nokia for cheap and he goes back to Micro$soft.. =\

Micro$oft is not afraid at all man, doing all these right in the open.

If they didn't had that idiot and went for Android, they would be out there with the likes of Sony/LG at least by now.

They have nice hardware, good build quality, and best in class camera.
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nokia have great potential to be the #1 android manufacturer if they decided to do so... too bad...
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Comparison photos between Z1 and Z Ultra.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/26/xperi...xperia-z-ultra/

QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 27 2013, 07:40 AM)
nokia have great potential to be the #1 android  manufacturer if they decided to do so... too bad...
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Sentiments and quality alone might not be enough. Samsung is using brute force to gain market shares. They're rolling out phones like clothes/underwears.. coming in so many colours and flavours... well.. not sure about what underwears tastes like.. LOL..
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beware of paid forumers here whistling.gif

Samsung caught paying for negative reviews on htc
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QUOTE(hikashi @ Sep 27 2013, 07:46 AM)
Not new news. Even those didn't get paid also attacked other brand, especially Apple
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QUOTE(hikashi @ Sep 27 2013, 07:46 AM)
Sometimes hard to tell if paid or just pure blind fanbois.. I just take their comments with a grain of salt.. well.. an Antonov An-225 Mriya filled with salt.. or just ignore them all.. LMAO
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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 27 2013, 07:56 AM)
Not new news. Even those didn't get paid also attacked other brand, especially Apple
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not surprising the way they say shit about Apple. but hitting HTC OMFG this is crude.


















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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 27 2013, 08:18 AM)
not surprising the way they say shit about Apple. but hitting HTC OMFG this is crude.
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 27 2013, 08:18 AM)
not surprising the way they say shit about Apple. but hitting HTC OMFG this is crude.
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QUOTE(hikashi @ Sep 27 2013, 07:46 AM)
QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 27 2013, 07:56 AM)
Not new news. Even those didn't get paid also attacked other brand, especially Apple
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Sep 27 2013, 07:57 AM)
Sometimes hard to tell if paid or just pure blind fanbois.. I just take their comments with a grain of salt.. well.. an Antonov An-225 Mriya filled with salt.. or just ignore them all.. LMAO
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well, fanbois are everywhere... can't really do much about that. every brand have their own diehard fans.

but paying others to attack other brand... more so from a big company... and worst being caught doing so... doh.gif shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 27 2013, 09:38 AM)
well, fanbois are everywhere... can't really do much about that. every brand have their own diehard fans.

but paying others to attack other brand... more so from a big company... and worst being caught doing so...  doh.gif  shakehead.gif
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I think they blame the company hired by Samsung.
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geez... after reading this comparison only i know there's different category of LTE speed...

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In terms of data connection, the Xperia Z1 trumps the Galaxy S4 by offering LTE Cat4, which comes with support for downlink speeds of up to 150 Mbit/s, while the GS4's LTE Cat3 can, theoretically, go up to 100 Mbit/s. LTE upload speeds are the same for both handsets and go up to 50 Mbit/s.


http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xpe...4_id3433/page/2
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Sep 27 2013, 11:41 AM)
geez... after reading this comparison only i know there's different category of LTE speed...
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xpe...4_id3433/page/2
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This thread is slow doh.gif try to hit 1000 tonight possible?
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Screen comparison of Xperia Z1 v/s Z Ultra.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/26/xperi...xperia-z-ultra/

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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Sep 27 2013, 12:08 PM)
This thread is slow doh.gif try to hit 1000 tonight possible?
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QUOTE(hikashi @ Sep 27 2013, 07:46 AM)
Where to apply this job?
We should apply it from different phone company, so that we can attack A and B and C by different username and earn all of that paid.

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This thread is slow doh.gif try to hit 1000 tonight possible?
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u expect to hit as fast as Noti? u dreaming kah?
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 27 2013, 12:20 PM)
u expect to hit as fast as Noti? u dreaming kah?
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No coz really slow.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 27 2013, 12:08 PM)
Screen comparison of Xperia Z1 v/s Z Ultra.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/26/xperi...xperia-z-ultra/
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it is only slightly wash out very nice! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

btw, price released in Sony website already. but the ROI is still opened so i will just sign up anyway... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 27 2013, 12:08 PM)
Screen comparison of Xperia Z1 v/s Z Ultra.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/26/xperi...xperia-z-ultra/

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XZU still the best!
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No coz really slow.
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 27 2013, 12:24 PM)
yeah is a Sony thread...what do u expect. slow also can't help  unsure.gif
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Haha, I think next year baru reach V10
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Haha, I think next year baru reach V10
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 27 2013, 12:22 PM)
it is only slightly wash out very nice!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

btw, price released in Sony website already. but the ROI is still opened so i will just sign up anyway...  laugh.gif
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how much

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http://www.sony.com.my/productcategory/mob-phone
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"Full accessory ecosystem for premium smartphone"

what does tht mean, never state what included in the package

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waaaaaaa.....wan that expensive meh sony...aiksssss
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fuuuuuuuu
if roadshow got giv gift then at least i will feel better sad.gif
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waaaaaaa.....wan that expensive meh sony...aiksssss
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dafuq is Sony thinking?
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shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
any bundled? if not better go buy with others seller lo.
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New review

Z1 vs S4.
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This phone do support 64gb storage right?

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New review

Z1 vs S4.
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Which some people in this thread will find this interesting:-
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With its natural and realistic colors, the Z1 is among the more accurate screens out there right now. Its gamma still has some issues, though, resulting in some lost detail in the brighter areas (since some brighter levels are actually brighter than they should be), but overall, it's a great screen. The viewing angles are disastrous

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 27 2013, 01:03 PM)
Which some people in this thread will find this interesting:-
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Disastrous !!! Haha! It is!

But some one said it just slightly washout .... whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(keretapir @ Sep 27 2013, 01:02 PM)
This phone do support 64gb storage right?
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Shall be, Xperia Z Ultra do support 64GB microSD card, I believe Z1 also.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 27 2013, 01:06 PM)
Disastrous !!! Haha! It is!

But some one said it just slightly washout ....  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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LOL. Note 3 is the best now. RM2159 outright from Ebay. Nothing comes near whistling.gif
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post Sep 27 2013, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(derravile @ Sep 27 2013, 12:30 PM)
har? this price can compete with note 3?
If not wrong, now Z only RM1600+- right?
ZU RM1800+-?
This Z1 RM2399 is a bit over already.

They really got confident that people gonna buy their phone rather than note 3 with this price.

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QUOTE(diehard1979 @ Sep 27 2013, 01:23 PM)
har? this price can compete with note 3?
If not wrong, now Z only RM1600+- right?
ZU RM1800+-?
This Z1 RM2399 is a bit over already.

They really got confident that people gonna buy their phone rather than note 3 with this price.
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Z1 2399 is the rrp la...
if u want to compare rrp, compare all other model with rrp also la... compare apple to apple ma... doh.gif
u compare market price with rrp, sure market price cheaper alot lor doh.gif doh.gif
same goes with note3... note3 rrp also 2399, same as Z1. Z1 market price not sure yet cos not release yet mah...

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post Sep 27 2013, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 27 2013, 01:09 PM)
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Lol! S4 pretty than XZ1 in this photo doh.gif
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post Sep 27 2013, 02:05 PM

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but samsung build really not so good, i drop my note2 on soft ground also dented badly... waist height, i tink the z1 will be much better
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QUOTE(derravile @ Sep 27 2013, 02:05 PM)
but samsung build really not so good, i drop my note2 on soft ground also dented badly... waist height, i tink the z1 will be much better
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I don't think we should drop our phone. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 27 2013, 02:07 PM)
I don't think we should drop our phone.  tongue.gif
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how about washing the phone? brows.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 27 2013, 02:07 PM)
I don't think we should drop our phone.  tongue.gif
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not intentionally.... but
accident do happens....

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anyone pre-ordered after knowing the official RRP?
heard that dock included for the 1st few batches only
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 27 2013, 02:37 PM)
anyone pre-ordered after knowing the official RRP?
heard that dock included for the 1st few batches only
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QUOTE(rong123 @ Sep 27 2013, 02:46 PM)
Went to Sony The Curve just now, RM2399 pre-order bundle with charging dock.
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how much is it to buy the dock alone?
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RRP RM140 for a dock

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QUOTE(lilzany @ Sep 27 2013, 01:09 PM)
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I said before, AMOLED look more dimmer than actual when get snap in narrow angle.

It not like that in actual use.

Also that picture also show S4 still look better la.

The fact of Z1 screen viewing angle is bad is fact. No point deny it.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 27 2013, 02:59 PM)
I said before, AMOLED look more dimmer than actual when get snap in narrow angle.

It not like that in actual use.

Also that picture also show S4 still look better la.

The fact of Z1 screen viewing angle is bad is fact. No point deny it.
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yes yes we all heard it many times b4 (from you)... yawn.gif

i don't think anyone is denying it here... just someone accepted the fact and think it's still no big deal and it actually looks better than expected

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QUOTE(keretapir @ Sep 27 2013, 02:27 PM)
how about washing the phone? brows.gif
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Z1 is waterproof rclxms.gif

QUOTE(derravile @ Sep 27 2013, 02:27 PM)
not intentionally.... but
accident do happens....
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 27 2013, 03:18 PM)
Z1 is waterproof  rclxms.gif 
If you put your phone in accident prone situation, YES!
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but honestly, i still have doubt about a phone with glass back...
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oh god.... here comes all the viewing angle post again doh.gif

can we just move on ? yes we agree the viewing angle is not as good as your beloved samsung devices. but different people got different view and preference on what is bad and what is good, what seems very bad to you may not seem bad at all to some people.


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most people who buy any brand of devices other than samsung are usually trying to be different, and wanna try something new. which is me in this case, just getting bored with samsung. i have an s3 now and 7/10 of my friends own an s3 as well. and i see plenty of s4 and note2 as well.


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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 27 2013, 01:06 PM)
Disastrous !!! Haha! It is!

But some one said it just slightly washout ....  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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yes it's just slightly washout to me whistling.gif

what seems bad to you is not necessary the same level of bad to other people

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