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post Aug 29 2013, 05:17 PM, updated 12y ago

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This is the tread for discussions related to all kinds of PNB funds
Please refer to past discussions for information already discussed:


V1 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/347861
V2 : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1120959
V3 : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2256158

Kindly read FAQ to know more about ASNB funds for newcomer.

ASNB UNIT TRUST TRANSACTION
SALARY DEDUCTION
EPF MEMBERS’ INVESTMENT SCHEME
CLAIM OF DECEASED ACCOUNT
ELIGIBILITY TO INVEST
LOST ASNB INVESTMENT BOOK
UPDATE/ CHANGE PERSONAL PARTICULARS
INTERNET BANKING FACILITY

Funds:

1 - SEKIM AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL (ASN) **

Financial Year End: December 31
Historical Amanah Saham Nasional (ASN) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2008 - 5.50
2009 - 5.20
2010 - 6.00
2011 - 6.05
2012 - 6.30

2 - AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL 2 (ASN2) **

Financial Year End: June 30
Historical Amanah Saham Nasional 2(ASN2) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 5.20
2010 - 5.20
2011 - 5.50
2012 - 6.50
2013 - 7.00

3 - AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL3 IMBANG (ASN3) *

Financial Year End: November 30
Historical Amanah Saham Nasional 3 (ASN3) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 7.00
2010 - 5.50
2011 - 6.00
2012 - 6.00
2013 - 6.30

4 - AMANAH SAHAM GEMILANG - PENDIDIKAN (ASG-P) *

Financial Year End: March 31
Historical Amanah Gemilang Pendidkan (ASG-P) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 5.50
2010 - 5.50
2011 - 5.60
2012 - 7.00
2013 - 7.10

5 - AMANAH SAHAM GEMILANG - KESIHATAN (ASG-K) *

Financial Year End: March 31
Historical Amanah Saham Gemilang Kesihatan (ASG-K) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 6.00
2010 - 6.00
2011 - 6.10
2012 - 7.10
2013 - 7.20

6 - AMANAH SAHAM GEMILANG - PERSARAAN (ASG-P) *

Financial Year End: March 31
Historical Amanah Saham Gemilang Persaraan (ASG-P) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 5.00
2010 - 5.00
2011 - 5.10
2012 - 7.05
2013 - 7.30

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7 - SKIM AMANAH SAHAM BUMIPUTERA (ASB) **

Financial Year End: December 31
Historical Amanah Saham Bumiputera (ASB) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2008 - 7.00 + 1.75
2009 - 7.30 + 1.25
2010 - 7.50 + 1.25
2011 - 7.65 + 1.15
2012 - 7.75 + 1.15
(Dividend) + (Bonus)

8 - AMANAH SAHAM WAWASAN 2020 (ASW 2020) *

Financial Year End: August 31
Historical Amanah Saham Wawasan 2020 (ASW2020) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 7.00
2010 - 6.30
2011 - 6.50
2012 - 6.60
2013 - 6.70

9 - AMANAH SAHAM MALAYSIA (ASM) *

Financial Year End: March 31
Historical Amanah Saham Malaysia (ASM) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 6.25
2010 - 6.30
2011 - 6.38
2012 - 6.80
2013 - 6.50

10 - AMANAH SAHAM DIDIK (ASD) **

Financial Year End: June 30
Historical Amanah Saham Didik (ASD) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2009 - 6.30
2010 - 6.35
2011 - 6.50
2012 - 6.60
2013 - 6.80

11 - AMANAH SAHAM 1MALAYSIA (AS 1MALAYSIA) *

Financial Year End: September 30
Historical Amanah Saham 1Malaysia (AS1M) Dividend Rate for past 3 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2010 - 6.38
2011 - 6.50
2012 - 6.60

* - Eligible to all MALAYSIAN
** - Eligible to all BUMIPUTERA

Variable Price UT are (Based on NAV) : ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG - Pendidikan - Kesihatan - Persaraan
Fixed Price UT are (1.00 MYR per unit): ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M

Credit to :

Original Poster V1 doremon
Original Poster V2 cherroy
Original Poster V3 aeronic
and all the contributor a.k.a forumers who give vital and essential information in the past.

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post Sep 1 2013, 07:32 AM

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Untuk Siaran Segera
18 September 2013
AS 1MALAYSIA UMUM PENGAGIHAN PENDAPATAN 6.70 SEN SEUNIT
KUALA LUMPUR - Amanah Saham Nasional Berhad (ASNB), anak syarikat milik
penuh Permodalan Nasional Berhad (PNB) mengumumkan pengagihan pendapatan
sebanyak 6.70 sen seunit untuk Amanah Saham 1Malaysia (AS 1Malaysia) bagi tahun
kewangan berakhir 30 September 2013.
Pengagihan pendapatan kali keempat ini mencatatkan peningkatan sebanyak 0.10 sen
seunit berbanding 6.60 sen seunit yang diumumkan tahun lalu.
Pengerusi PNB, Tun Ahmad Sarji Abdul Hamid berkata, kadar pengagihan pendapatan
itu membabitkan peruntukan sebanyak RM593.06 juta, peningkatan sebanyak 30.9%
berbanding RM453.03 juta yang dibayar tahun lalu.
Pengagihan pendapatan ini akan dapat dimanfaatkan oleh seramai 365,355 pemegang
unit yang telah melanggan 9.28 bilion unit AS 1Malaysia.
Sehingga 16 September, 2013, tabung AS 1Malaysia telah memperoleh pendapatan
kasar sebanyak RM723.93 juta, di mana keuntungan daripada penjualan saham dalam
syarikat-syarikat menyumbang sebanyak RM405.99 juta atau 56.1%.
Pendapatan dividen daripada pelaburan dalam syarikat-syarikat pula menyumbang
sebanyak RM189.79 juta atau 26.2% kepada jumlah pendapatan kasar tersebut,
sementara lebihan RM128.15 juta atau 17.7% diperoleh melalui pendapatan daripada
pelaburan dalam instrumen-instrumen jangka pendek dan lain-lain pendapatan.
Pengiraan pengagihan pendapatan adalah berdasarkan kepada purata baki pegangan
minimum bulanan bagi tempoh pelaburan sepanjang tahun kewangan AS 1Malaysia.
Pembayaran pengagihan pendapatan tabung AS 1Malaysia akan dilaksanakan melalui
pelaburan semula yang akan dikreditkan secara automatik ke dalam akaun para
pemegang unit pada 1 Oktober 2013.Bagi pemegang unit yang melanggan unit-unit AS 1Malaysia menerusi Skim Pelaburan
Ahli KWSP, pembayaran pengagihan pendapatan akan dikreditkan ke dalam akaun
pelaburan KWSP yang berkenaan.
Para pemegang unit boleh mengemas kini buku pelaburan masing-masing di pejabat
dan ejen-ejen ASNB di seluruh negara mulai 1 Oktober 2013 apabila urus niaga dibuka
seperti biasa.
Selaras dengan Garispanduan Suruhanjaya Sekuriti, penyata pengagihan pendapatan
serta laporan tahunan akan dihantar mulai pertengahan bulan November 2013.
AS 1Malaysia merupakan sebuah Dana Ekuiti Pendapatan atau “Equity Income Fund”
dengan objektif untuk menyediakan peluang pelaburan yang menjana pulangan yang
berpatutan dan berterusan kepada pemegang unitnya pada tahap risiko yang
munasabah.
Dilancarkan pada 5 Ogos 2009, AS 1Malaysia adalah dana berharga tetap dengan saiz
10 bilion unit, disasarkan kepada semua rakyat Malaysia. AS 1Malaysia juga
merupakan instrumen pelaburan yang digunakan bagi menjayakan Skim Amanah
Rakyat 1Malaysia (SARA 1Malaysia), suatu skim khas yang diperkenalkan oleh
Kerajaan pada tahun 2012 bagi menggalakkan penyertaan golongan berpendapatan
rendah menabung dan melabur dalam menangani kesan kenaikan kos sara hidup
semasa.
Untuk maklumat lanjut, sila hubungi:
Cik Aminah Haji Mahadi
Pengurus Kanan
Jabatan Komunikasi Korporat
Tel: 03-2050 5445
Faks: 03-2050 5268
E-mail: aminah_hm@pnb.com.my

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Great.... V2 now.
Tomorrow is a good chance to go for ASW2020 top-up or even account opening.
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V4...very fast....
Yeah tomorrow...Many would plan to open new account.
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post Sep 1 2013, 01:08 PM

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The only reservation is whether staff at ASNB/PM/Banks are willing to assist on the opening of new account

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 1 2013, 11:53 AM)
V4...very fast....
Yeah tomorrow...Many would plan to open new account.
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Wow, opening account but only provided the agents would be helpful to assist..

Anyway, hope to have the chance to try..

I can only the account, even with the minimum of RM100 is also dont mind.. At least can try to bank in next time..
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 29 2013, 05:17 PM)
7 - SKIM AMANAH SAHAM BUMIPUTERA (ASB) **

Financial Year End: December 31
Historical Amanah Saham Bumiputera (ASB) Dividend Rate for past 5 years
Net Distribution per unit (sen)
2008 - 8.75
2009 - 8.55
2010 - 8.75
2011 - 8.80
2012 - 8.90
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The above information is not entirely correct. You should separate it into dividend + bonus. Else there will be people who think they get the whole 8.90% for year 2012.

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In case u want to refer V3

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2256158/+2480
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 29 2013, 05:17 PM)

Credit to :

Original Poster V1  doremon
Original Poster V2  cherroy
Original Poster V3  aeronic
and all the contributor a.k.a forumers who give fruity information in the past.
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laugh.gif Sweet and juicy information? laugh.gif

I think you mean 'fruitful'? tongue.gif

QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 1 2013, 11:00 AM)
Great.... V2 now.
Tomorrow is a good chance to go for ASW2020 top-up or even account opening.
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 1 2013, 11:53 AM)
V4...very fast....
Yeah tomorrow...Many would plan to open new account.
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Why is tomorrow a good time to top-up or open account? Only for ASW2020? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 1 2013, 08:24 PM)

Why is tomorrow a good time to top-up or open account? Only for ASW2020?  hmm.gif
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Dividend "masuk" tomorrow. Some people think others would withdraw their asw2020 money
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Good luck guys for tomorrow (opening new acc & "top-up").

Feel free to share here your experience smile.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 1 2013, 08:26 PM)
Dividend "masuk" tomorrow. Some people think others would withdraw their asw2020 money
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Owh, like that..... thx for the info. smile.gif
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Just hope tomorrow the staff won't be "over-stressed" with all those asw2020 unit-holders, if not next day newspaper headline - "staff baling kerusi / fail ke pelanggan akibat tekanan kerja" biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 1 2013, 08:31 PM)
Owh, like that..... thx for the info.  smile.gif
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No problem. Glad to help.

You wanna "try" asw2020 tomorrow?? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 1 2013, 08:36 PM)
No problem. Glad to help.

You wanna "try" asw2020 tomorrow??  hmm.gif
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Im going to try asw2020 again tomorrow. Hopefully can put 10-20k units. But need kopi o money again.
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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 1 2013, 08:45 PM)
Im going to try asw2020 again tomorrow. Hopefully can put 10-20k units. But need kopi o money again.
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Good luck. Trying at Tanjung Manis post office?
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 1 2013, 08:26 PM)
Dividend "masuk" tomorrow. Some people think others would withdraw their asw2020 money
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Definitely some unit holders will withdraw d dividend tomorrow
V dunno how many withdrawal transactions + withdrawal sum
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 1 2013, 08:34 PM)
Just hope tomorrow the staff won't be "over-stressed" with all those asw2020 unit-holders, if not next day newspaper headline - "staff baling kerusi / fail ke pelanggan akibat tekanan kerja"  biggrin.gif
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Stress is our good friend
M confident staff at ASNB/PM/Banks can handle the situation well
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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 1 2013, 08:45 PM)
Im going to try asw2020 again tomorrow. Hopefully can put 10-20k units. But need kopi o money again.
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Bro, kopi o money is very sensitive
Handle with care
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 1 2013, 08:50 PM)
Definitely some unit holders will withdraw d dividend tomorrow
V dunno how many withdrawal transactions + withdrawal sum
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Yup, SOME unitholders would withdraw. The main concern is how fast can you "grab" the available units.

a lot of people would be "camping" at the agents branch whole day. Who knows some may even take the day off just to grab the opportunities shakehead.gif

I'm not negative thinking, just logical thinking sweat.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 1 2013, 08:49 PM)
Good luck.  Trying at Tanjung Manis post office?
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Different. The staff moved to other place already.
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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 1 2013, 08:59 PM)
Different. The staff moved to other place already.
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wah, you very good lor. You managed to track down the staff thumbup.gif

Like that, I'm sure he/she glad to help you get some units. You enjoy rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 1 2013, 08:45 PM)
Im going to try asw2020 again tomorrow. Hopefully can put 10-20k units. But need kopi o money again.
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Don't pay anything illegal, bribery is not right morally and religiously.
ASW return is above leverage but not great until u need to corrupt the counter staffs to get the unit.
NOT WORTH IT.
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hope i can open acc tomorrow....


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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 1 2013, 09:20 PM)
hope i can open acc tomorrow....
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Yours should be much easier as u r a bumi
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 1 2013, 09:18 PM)
Don't pay anything illegal, bribery is not right morally and religiously.
ASW return is above leverage but not great until u need to corrupt the counter staffs to get the unit.
NOT WORTH IT.
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Agreed
If can't get, life still goes on... smile.gif
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 1 2013, 09:18 PM)
Don't pay anything illegal, bribery is not right morally and religiously.
ASW return is above leverage but not great until u need to corrupt the counter staffs to get the unit.
NOT WORTH IT.
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 1 2013, 09:21 PM)
Yours should be much easier as u r a bumi
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He non-bumi (chinese)
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 1 2013, 09:20 PM)
hope i can open acc tomorrow....
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Surprised u dun have ASW2020 account

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 1 2013, 09:18 PM)
Don't pay anything illegal, bribery is not right morally and religiously.
ASW return is above leverage but not great until u need to corrupt the counter staffs to get the unit.
NOT WORTH IT.
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Agree. Perhaps they shouldnt demand for that. Just process the transaction. Save money.

But anyways, life still goes on.

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 1 2013, 09:33 PM)
Surprised u dun have ASW2020 account
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You didn't read his previous post? He got said only have ASM & ASG sweat.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 1 2013, 09:40 PM)
You didn't read his previous post? He got said only have ASM & ASG  sweat.gif
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Just joined dis thread on 19/8 smile.gif

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 1 2013, 10:08 PM)
Just joined dis thread on 19/8  smile.gif
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No wonder you ask so many question. Welcome to the club biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 1 2013, 09:40 PM)
You didn't read his previous post? He got said only have ASM & ASG  sweat.gif
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yea.. 1 fixed, 1 variable.
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 1 2013, 10:25 PM)
yea.. 1 fixed, 1 variable.
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I answer for your behalf to his question. I hope you not angry smile.gif
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I answer for your behalf to his question. I hope you not angry  smile.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 1 2013, 08:36 PM)
No problem. Glad to help.

You wanna "try" asw2020 tomorrow??  hmm.gif
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Already gave up trying long time ago..... wink.gif

Only have AS1M when nobody wanted it last time.....
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 1 2013, 11:00 PM)
Already gave up trying long time ago.....  wink.gif

Only have AS1M when nobody wanted it last time.....
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It's never too late to activate ASW2020
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 1 2013, 11:15 PM)
It's never too late to activate ASW2020
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Guess so. Anyway, good luck to those who's opening an account tomorrow. thumbup.gif

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*  - Eligible to all MALAYSIAN
** - Eligible to only BUMIPUTERA


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you should fix the one in bold.. so newbie might not confuse.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(mytaffeta @ Sep 2 2013, 03:24 AM)
you should fix the one in bold.. so newbie might not confuse..  thumbup.gif
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i don't find any difference between only bumi and all bumi.
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In bank now. Helping my 3 sisters to do transaction, only able to got 400 each for my eldest and youngest sis. Now waiting for myself, opening new account. GOD, BLESS PLEASE.
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 2 2013, 09:49 AM)
In bank now. Helping my 3 sisters to do transaction, only able to got 400 each for my eldest and youngest sis. Now waiting for myself, opening new account. GOD, BLESS PLEASE.
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Please update here once the account has been opened...

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i was wondering where everyone was missing. maybe busy updating ASW2020 books. but boy, was i wrong. a new thread i am not aware of... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 2 2013, 10:39 AM)
i was wondering where everyone was missing. maybe busy updating ASW2020 books. but boy, was i wrong. a new thread i am not aware of... biggrin.gif
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They should laughing their way to update their passbooks for ASW2020, while i am trying to think of a possible way to open the account...

Anyway, the next target for dividend announcement would be for AS1M...

Hopefully the returns are a bit higher than ASW2020.. 6.8% also i am okay.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 2 2013, 09:56 AM)
Please update here once the account has been opened...
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sistem offline....

the banker still insist to help me open, she said she will call me once my account is on.

i am so touched, cik, hari ini kamu amat cantik.

but, still waiting for the call....
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sistem offline....

the banker still insist to help me open, she said she will call me once my account is on.

i am so touched, cik, hari ini kamu amat cantik.

but, still waiting for the call....
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sistem offline....

the banker still insist to help me open, she said she will call me once my account is on.

i am so touched, cik, hari ini kamu amat cantik.

but, still waiting for the call....
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Wow, can help open the account...

Thats great...


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Wow, can help open the account...

Thats great...
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Manage to secure 15k units today asw2020. Received another 12k units dividend. Took 20minutes to find available units. This week is the best chance to get some units.

Opening new account required rm200 as he told me.
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today is not my lucky day. was not able to topup for AS1M and the post office is not willing to allow me to open new account for ASW2020. He said i can only try if there is additional fund subscription. sigh....
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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 2 2013, 12:34 PM)
Manage to secure 15k units today asw2020. Received another 12k units dividend. Took 20minutes to find available units. This week is the best chance to get some units.

Opening new account required rm200 as he told me.
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are u sure ur not bumiputra...? hmm.gif

or i may start suspecting that apart from bumi-non bumi allocations, they will also have fund allocations according to each INDIVIDUAL state... hmm.gif hmm.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(mrsdragonphoenix @ Sep 2 2013, 12:50 PM)
today is not my lucky day. was not able to topup for AS1M and the post office is not willing to allow me to open new account for ASW2020. He said i can only try if there is additional fund subscription. sigh....
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There is no need to feel frustrated and disappointed..

For me, i have also come across so many times officers tell me can only open the account when there is additional units for subscription..

Its already becoming a norm.. blush.gif
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 2 2013, 01:18 PM)
are u sure ur not bumiputra...?  hmm.gif

or i may start suspecting that apart from bumi-non bumi allocations, they will also have fund allocations according to each INDIVIDUAL state...  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  icon_idea.gif
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If i am bumi, i would not bother asw2020. Asb is better brows.gif The systems are linked, so i dont think there is allocation for states. The way i see, staff will keep trying to access their system to check available units. So, i think it is whether the staff willing to waste his time to search or not. You bumi? Max asb has payout like 16k. icon_idea.gif

I checked asw2020 annual report 2012, there are 3157 individuals who held 500k units above worth nearly Rm5 bllions. Average RM1.5 million each person for that group. Crazy.
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QUOTE(mrsdragonphoenix @ Sep 2 2013, 12:50 PM)
today is not my lucky day. was not able to topup for AS1M and the post office is not willing to allow me to open new account for ASW2020. He said i can only try if there is additional fund subscription. sigh....
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This is the type of statement made by lazy staff working behind the counter (and forever will work behind the counter)

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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 2 2013, 01:39 PM)
If i am bumi, i would not bother asw2020. Asb is better  brows.gif The systems are linked, so i dont think there is allocation for states. The way i see, staff will keep trying to access their system to check available units. So, i think it is whether the staff willing to waste his time to search or not. You bumi? Max asb has payout like 16k.  icon_idea.gif

I checked asw2020 annual report 2012, there are 3157 individuals who held 500k units above worth nearly Rm5 bllions. Average RM1.5 million each person for that group. Crazy.
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They are just rich but not crazy.
3 years ago, get to know from my banker got one non-bumi able to accumulate RM20mil in his individual account. He accumulated it since 2000, when race quota hasn't applied.
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Still no calling in

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Why would the cashier help you while you sit back in your office/home waiting for the call.

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 2 2013, 01:52 PM)
They are just rich but not crazy.
3 years ago, get to know from my banker got one non-bumi able to accumulate RM20mil in his individual account. He accumulated it since 2000, when race quota hasn't applied.
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I mean crazy rich laugh.gif

Actually i am still thinking whether to accumulate or not as well. This is ponzi scheme, there are still risks for it although it is heavily backed by government. This fund is good during challenging years, no headache and good return. Blind invest. Unit trust this year is quite challenging, bonds market are not doing well. Cannot say bond fund perform better ASM anymore sad.gif .
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 2 2013, 01:39 PM)
This is the type of statement made by lazy staff working behind the counter (and forever will work behind the counter)
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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 2 2013, 02:03 PM)
I mean crazy rich  laugh.gif

Actually i am still thinking whether to accumulate or not as well. This is ponzi scheme, there are still risks for it although it is heavily backed by government. This fund is good during challenging years, no headache and good return. Blind invest. Unit trust this year is quite challenging, bonds market are not doing well. Cannot say bond fund perform better ASM anymore  sad.gif .
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Treat it as a "high return saving account" parking your funds, if u can find other better return, go ahead by all means.
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Yeah all fixed-price ASNB funds give CONSISTENT dividend which is higher than FD. I think there is no other similar investment. Only worry is its operation(hopefully not a huge ponzi scheme) and the unknown NTA.
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You bumi? Max asb has payout like 16k.  icon_idea.gif

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one of my clients earned 60+k in dividend alone in jan 2013.
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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 2 2013, 12:34 PM)
Manage to secure 15k units today asw2020. Received another 12k units dividend. Took 20minutes to find available units. This week is the best chance to get some units.

Opening new account required rm200 as he told me.
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some only managed to get rm400 shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 2 2013, 01:39 PM)
This is the type of statement made by lazy staff working behind the counter (and forever will work behind the counter)
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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 2 2013, 12:34 PM)
Manage to secure 15k units today asw2020. Received another 12k units dividend. Took 20minutes to find available units. This week is the best chance to get some units.

Opening new account required rm200 as he told me.
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Now i highly suspect your statement.

Pelaburan Permulaan Minimum
Buku Pelaburan - 100 unit

from http://www.asnb.com.my/asw.htm
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 2 2013, 03:02 PM)
Now i highly suspect your statement.

Pelaburan Permulaan Minimum
Buku Pelaburan - 100 unit

from http://www.asnb.com.my/asw.htm
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So how? Managed to open asw2020?
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 2 2013, 03:02 PM)
Now i highly suspect your statement.

Pelaburan Permulaan Minimum
Buku Pelaburan - 100 unit

from http://www.asnb.com.my/asw.htm
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It is what the staff told me. So how much did it cost you to open 1 account today? Asw2020 also?
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Some rules and tips on investing in unit trust

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> Patience pays

> Invest regularly

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So how? Managed to open asw2020?
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cannot la. sien. totally no mood today. but still waiting. Line still off.

go to PM, damn that lazy bump say no dana cannot open account. I say, encik, boleh cuba buka tak, cuba sekalai sahaja. I ask becasue i am 100% sure i able to open an acc today. He don't want macam mana beg also don't want.

than i go try my luck in MBB, same happen, than i change strategy which is low % to get account open. I say, cik tolong update bagi buku ini, which is my sis. Than i say, kalau boleh, cuba masuk seberapa yang boleh asalkan tidak melebihi 1000. thn she try try try. manage to got in 400 and 400, thn tell me system offline. I i say thank you, than i purposely ask the same question. And say kalau buku lain boleh top up, maknanya buka account baru pun bolehkan kalau try. thn she say yes. thn i say again, ala.. terlepas pula peluang saya nak buka. Boleh cuba sekarang. Than only she say help me open. Write all form, hand to her, wait there for 1 hours, than she call me go back wait her call.

Actually i felt happy regarding this, but, seeing the time now. I just went sigh.
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It is what the staff told me. So how much did it cost you to open 1 account today? Asw2020 also?
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for every account, opening is 100 MYR.

CONFIRMED because my sis, dad and mum have.
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 2 2013, 03:37 PM)
cannot la. sien. totally no mood today. but still waiting. Line still off.

go to PM, damn that lazy bump say no dana cannot open account. I say, encik, boleh cuba buka tak, cuba sekalai sahaja. I ask becasue i am 100% sure i able to open an acc today. He don't want macam mana beg also don't want.

than i go try my luck in MBB, same happen, than i change strategy which is low % to get account open. I say, cik tolong update bagi buku ini, which is my sis. Than i say, kalau boleh, cuba masuk seberapa yang boleh asalkan tidak melebihi 1000. thn she try try try. manage to got in 400 and 400, thn tell me system offline. I i say thank you, than i purposely ask the same question. And say kalau buku lain boleh top up, maknanya buka account baru pun bolehkan kalau try. thn she say yes. thn i say again, ala.. terlepas pula peluang saya nak buka. Boleh cuba sekarang. Than only she say help me open. Write all form, hand to her, wait there for 1 hours, than she call me go back wait her call.

Actually i felt happy regarding this, but, seeing the time now. I just went sigh.
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very unbelievable your situation. You stay cool.

BUT it is really "offline" today?? or only MBB "offline". You try at cimb or rhb bank. Or you call asnb office & ask them.

I got feeling the mbb staff cheat you hmm.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 2 2013, 03:44 PM)
very unbelievable  your situation. You stay cool.

BUT it is really "offline" today?? or only MBB "offline". You try at cimb or rhb bank. Or you call asnb office & ask them.

I got feeling the mbb staff cheat you  hmm.gif
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LOL. CIMB? 5 counters only 2 counters got officer for many years already. I have no comment on that bank now. my place don't have RHB bank.

never mind la. Cheating ma cheating lo. I also don't mind, because i see she is doing transaction for ASB while i waiting there like 1 hour.
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i pity at those staffs who are handling the ASNB counters

so many complaints from customers. not that they earn any extra money / commissions from ASNB transactions

and they also have their superiors instructions to follow. it's a catch-22 situation, but they get all the blame


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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 2 2013, 03:52 PM)
LOL. CIMB? 5 counters only 2 counters got officer for many years already. I have no comment on that bank now. my place don't have RHB bank.

never mind la. Cheating ma cheating lo. I also don't mind, because i see she is doing transaction for ASB while i waiting there like 1 hour.
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OMG! only 2 counters operating? Everything only those 2 counter. It's very bad. As I know CIMB must have at least min 5 operating counter.

Each for deposit, withdrawal, chque, asnb, others services. Correct me if I'm wrong smile.gif

I think, you go tomorrow. It's already 4pm. Banks won't "layan" you for asnb transaction after 4pm shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 2 2013, 03:37 PM)
cannot la. sien. totally no mood today. but still waiting. Line still off.

go to PM, damn that lazy bump say no dana cannot open account. I say, encik, boleh cuba buka tak, cuba sekalai sahaja. I ask becasue i am 100% sure i able to open an acc today. He don't want macam mana beg also don't want.

than i go try my luck in MBB, same happen, than i change strategy which is low % to get account open. I say, cik tolong update bagi buku ini, which is my sis. Than i say, kalau boleh, cuba masuk seberapa yang boleh asalkan tidak melebihi 1000. thn she try try try. manage to got in 400 and 400, thn tell me system offline. I i say thank you, than i purposely ask the same question. And say kalau buku lain boleh top up, maknanya buka account baru pun bolehkan kalau try. thn she say yes. thn i say again, ala.. terlepas pula peluang saya nak buka. Boleh cuba sekarang. Than only she say help me open. Write all form, hand to her, wait there for 1 hours, than she call me go back wait her call.

Actually i felt happy regarding this, but, seeing the time now. I just went sigh.
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As i thought..really no chance to open the account.. dont know when will they open additional units for sale for this ASW2020..

Anyway, i am not putting so much hope on it..


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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 2 2013, 03:56 PM)
i pity at those staffs who are handling the ASNB counters

so many complaints from customers. not that they earn any extra money  / commissions from ASNB transactions

and they also have their superiors instructions to follow. it's a catch-22 situation, but they get all the blame
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it's okay if they really do their job but some of them are "faking" system down thus making the customer angry.

If system down, sure ASB transaction also cannot do. I got the feeling those staff are doing "back-door" transaction for their "special" customers hmm.gif
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OMG! only 2 counters operating? Everything only those 2 counter.  It's very bad. As I know CIMB must have at least min 5 operating counter.

Each for deposit, withdrawal, chque, asnb, others services.  Correct me if I'm wrong  smile.gif 

I think, you go tomorrow. It's already 4pm. Banks won't "layan" you for asnb transaction after 4pm  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 2 2013, 04:11 PM)
it's okay if they really do their job but some of them are "faking" system down thus making the customer angry. 

If system down, sure ASB transaction also cannot do. I got the feeling those staff are doing "back-door" transaction for their "special" customers  hmm.gif
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thanks for understanding...

My mind more sadding when those pak cik mak cik do ASB transac........

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 2 2013, 04:16 PM)
normal la... small kampung ma. ad 1 year din't step in that bank...
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 2 2013, 04:17 PM)
thanks for understanding...

My mind more sadding when those pak cik mak cik do ASB transac........
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 2 2013, 04:17 PM)
thanks for understanding...

My mind more sadding when those pak cik mak cik do ASB transac........
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u do know that ASB =/= ASW2020 / AS1M / ASM transactions

i do sense that you are quite prejudice whenever ASB is mentioned... wink.gif
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 2 2013, 04:26 PM)
u do know that ASB =/= ASW2020 / AS1M / ASM transactions

i do sense that you are quite prejudice whenever ASB is mentioned...  wink.gif
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shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

i din't say anything ok. sad.gif

what she told me is the ASNB offline. not ASW offline.

Perhaps she don't deliver correct message or i receive wrong massage.....
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i don't find any difference between only bumi and all bumi.
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It's okay, just chill. Tomorrow you go try again.  No worries, be happy  biggrin.gif
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I think i chill enough. LOL. I still can think way to pressure her to help me try.

But if cannot, cannot lo. haahaaa.

eggs canot put in this red steel basket nevermind. Lucky is I got gold steel basket.

oct see my uni got cuti or not, if got i try the yellow steel basket. haha
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In bank now. Helping my 3 sisters to do transaction, only able to got 400 each for my eldest and youngest sis. Now waiting for myself, opening new account. GOD, BLESS PLEASE.
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U gave us indirect live telecast
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I think i chill enough. LOL. I still can think way to pressure her to help me try.

But if cannot, cannot lo. haahaaa.

eggs canot put in this red steel basket nevermind. Lucky is I got gold steel basket.

oct see my uni got cuti or not, if got i try the yellow steel basket. haha
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 2 2013, 04:36 PM)
Wow...
U gave us indirect live telecast
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i was wondering where everyone was missing. maybe busy updating ASW2020 books. but boy, was i wrong. a new thread i am not aware of... biggrin.gif
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I just discovered dis new thread yesterday only...
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They should laughing their way to update their passbooks for ASW2020, while i am trying to think of a possible way to open the account...

Anyway, the next target for dividend announcement would be for AS1M...

Hopefully the returns are a bit higher than ASW2020.. 6.8% also i am okay..  thumbup.gif
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sistem offline....

the banker still insist to help me open, she said she will call me once my account is on.

i am so touched, cik, hari ini kamu amat cantik.

but, still waiting for the call....
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Never give up
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So sad...
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You try your best to open. If cannot, just "top-up" just what book you have. No worries  smile.gif

It's not end of the world, rite?  biggrin.gif
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Correct smile.gif

Just felling not worth. haha. try next year

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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 2 2013, 12:34 PM)
Manage to secure 15k units today asw2020. Received another 12k units dividend. Took 20minutes to find available units. This week is the best chance to get some units.

Opening new account required rm200 as he told me.
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today is not my lucky day. was not able to topup for AS1M and the post office is not willing to allow me to open new account for ASW2020. He said i can only try if there is additional fund subscription. sigh....
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Correct smile.gif

Just felling not worth. haha. try next year
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are u sure ur not bumiputra...?  hmm.gif

or i may start suspecting that apart from bumi-non bumi allocations, they will also have fund allocations according to each INDIVIDUAL state...  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  icon_idea.gif
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This is the type of statement made by lazy staff working behind the counter (and forever will work behind the counter)
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They are just rich but not crazy.
3 years ago, get to know from my banker got one non-bumi able to accumulate RM20mil in his individual account. He accumulated it since 2000, when race quota hasn't applied.
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From day 1, alredy 51% for Bumi
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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 2 2013, 02:03 PM)
I mean crazy rich  laugh.gif

Actually i am still thinking whether to accumulate or not as well. This is ponzi scheme, there are still risks for it although it is heavily backed by government. This fund is good during challenging years, no headache and good return. Blind invest. Unit trust this year is quite challenging, bonds market are not doing well. Cannot say bond fund perform better ASM anymore  sad.gif .
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I dun agree with u
Dis is not Ponzi scheme
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Treat it as a "high return saving account" parking your funds, if u can find other better return, go ahead by all means.
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Yeah all fixed-price ASNB funds give CONSISTENT dividend which is higher than FD. I think there is no other similar investment. Only worry is its operation(hopefully not a huge ponzi scheme) and the unknown NTA.
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Why u worry?
Dis is not Ponzi scheme
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Now i highly suspect your statement.

Pelaburan Permulaan Minimum
Buku Pelaburan - 100 unit

from http://www.asnb.com.my/asw.htm
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Either typo error/staff dunno d rules
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cannot la. sien. totally no mood today. but still waiting. Line still off.

go to PM, damn that lazy bump say no dana cannot open account. I say, encik, boleh cuba buka tak, cuba sekalai sahaja. I ask becasue i am 100% sure i able to open an acc today. He don't want macam mana beg also don't want.

than i go try my luck in MBB, same happen, than i change strategy which is low % to get account open. I say, cik tolong update bagi buku ini, which is my sis. Than i say, kalau boleh, cuba masuk seberapa yang boleh asalkan tidak melebihi 1000. thn she try try try. manage to got in 400 and 400, thn tell me system offline. I i say thank you, than i purposely ask the same question. And say kalau buku lain boleh top up, maknanya buka account baru pun bolehkan kalau try. thn she say yes. thn i say again, ala.. terlepas pula peluang saya nak buka. Boleh cuba sekarang. Than only she say help me open. Write all form, hand to her, wait there for 1 hours, than she call me go back wait her call.

Actually i felt happy regarding this, but, seeing the time now. I just went sigh.
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Useless staff  vmad.gif  mad.gif
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i pity at those staffs who are handling the ASNB counters

so many complaints from customers. not that they earn any extra money  / commissions from ASNB transactions

and they also have their superiors instructions to follow. it's a catch-22 situation, but they get all the blame
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They just earn a living only
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u do know that ASB =/= ASW2020 / AS1M / ASM transactions

i do sense that you are quite prejudice whenever ASB is mentioned...  wink.gif
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So you managed to get some asw2020 units today??
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Relax la...
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 2 2013, 05:28 PM)
Yup
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how much you managed to get today?
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hahahah nice one.

(for the particular person replying EVERY single posting in this thread)

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hahahah nice one.

(for the particular person replying EVERY single posting in this thread)
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 2 2013, 05:09 PM)
From day 1, alredy 51% for Bumi
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Yeah, last time many Chinese not interested to invest so this guy has the chance to increase a lot.
ASM don't hv race quota if I m not mistaken
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Yeah, last time many Chinese not interested to invest so this guy has the chance to increase a lot.
ASM don't hv race quota if I m not mistaken
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all have.

51 : 49

and among 49 u go divide 1 more time la
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all have.

51 : 49

and among 49 u go divide 1 more time la
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well, if you realize that this is one of the very few forums that will increase your post count, you'd see the reason why... whistling.gif
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I already know. All under finance, business & investment house would increased the post count sweat.gif

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Few years ago the unsold bumi quota open to all to subscribe. Since, the quota didn't stay anymore.
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 2 2013, 06:07 PM)
Few years ago the unsold bumi quota open to all to subscribe. Since, the quota didn't stay anymore.
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i heard about this before. when they opened up the ASM unsiod bumiputra (and indian quota IIRC?), every chinese went out in full force. i was amazed. but at that time, i have no money, and my ASB is not even anywhere near 5 digit. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 2 2013, 06:17 PM)
i heard about this before. when they opened up the ASM unsiod bumiputra (and indian quota IIRC?), every chinese went out in full force. i was amazed. but at that time, i have no money, and my ASB is not even anywhere near 5 digit.  sweat.gif
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oh this one I remember. They kept the quota for a period then opened to all. Chinese went all out full force to grab the opportunity. Some went as early as 2am just to be the first person shakehead.gif
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Which fund you referring to? ASM?  hmm.gif
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this one:

http://kwongfeimind.blogspot.com/2009/07/a...laysia-asm.html
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Yeah, last time many Chinese not interested to invest so this guy has the chance to increase a lot.
ASM don't hv race quota if I m not mistaken
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all have.

51 : 49

and among 49 u go divide 1 more time la
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ASM no quota la
It's open to all Malaysian...
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Few years ago the unsold bumi quota open to all to subscribe. Since, the quota didn't stay anymore.
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that time everyone rush for the unsold units. The blog owner even "camp" at maybank, unbelievable shakehead.gif
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I dun recall ASNB open Bumi quota to non Bumi
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Any1 mind to share whether Indian quota for AS1M still available coz my friend keen to open an account
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Any1 mind to share whether Indian quota for AS1M still available coz my friend keen to open an account
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Managed to top up ASW2020 n others today sweat.gif
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Managed to top up ASW2020 n others today  sweat.gif
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Which other ASx you top-up ?
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Which other ASx you top-up ?
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ASM + AS1M
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Wal lau wehh you guys and gals...

Disconnected myself from the weekend and found not only that there's a new thread (V4) but there's already 7 pages of it! tongue.gif

Anyways, been reading the adventures of people trying to open up new ASW accounts yet I don't see many actually going to an ASNB branch but relying on agents; the latter which we all know has its own "issues".

Although ASNB branches are not everywhere, they're in major cities across the country. Those in Klang Valley have options in KL, Shah Alam and Putrajaya. The same could be said about the other states too.

From what I hear from my friends, ASNB branches tend to be more "supportive" as compared to agents. In terms of ease of doing transactions, many seem to rank the following:

1. ASNB branches
2. Post Malaysia
3. Maybank
4. RHB
5. CIMB

That's my 2 cents survey with friends of course wink.gif

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Sep 3 2013, 08:20 AM)
Wal lau wehh you guys and gals...

Disconnected myself from the weekend and found not only that there's a new thread (V4) but there's already 7 pages of it! tongue.gif

Anyways, been reading the adventures of people trying to open up new ASW accounts yet I don't see many actually going to an ASNB branch but relying on agents; the latter which we all know has its own "issues".

Although ASNB branches are not everywhere, they're in major cities across the country. Those in Klang Valley have options in KL, Shah Alam and Putrajaya. The same could be said about the other states too.

From what I hear from my friends, ASNB branches tend to be more "supportive" as compared to agents. In terms of ease of doing transactions, many seem to rank the following:

1. ASNB branches
2. Post Malaysia
3. Maybank
4. RHB
5. CIMB

That's my 2 cents survey with friends of course wink.gif
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too far for me, like 4 hours to the nearest.

my ranking after my case.

1. Asnb
2. Mbb
4. Pm
4. Cimb

rhb not available in my place.
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So "[Ancient-XinG-"] did you get to open the ASM new account yesterday ?

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So "[Ancient-XinG-"] did you get to open the ASM new account yesterday ?
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this acc sure open after 2000
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this acc sure open after 2000
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Wa lucifah u earn damn well also.


Anyways this is my transaction Yesterday.


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Wa lucifah u earn damn well also.
Anyways this is my transaction Yesterday.
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2011.
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1996 punya passbook.

FFFUUUUU. So classic
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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 3 2013, 11:29 AM)
Wa lucifah u earn damn well also.
Anyways this is my transaction Yesterday.
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the one i posted belongs to one of my clients. i help them manage.
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1996 punya passbook.

FFFUUUUU. So classic
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if i dig deeper, my ting ting book also have some entries written by hand. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 3 2013, 11:34 AM)
lol this also opened after 2000
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Does it matter if open after 2000? hmm.gif or prior 2000 is special since it is classic book?
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Hello there, how to know when can open new AS account?
Is it got a time frame or just wait from the news?

A newbie here >_<
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Does it matter if open after 2000?  hmm.gif or prior 2000 is special since it is classic book?
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they are just OLD book. so you can show off to others that you are either:

1. old fag / senior / long timer
2. u just never have enough transactions for a new book


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Wa lucifah u earn damn well also.
Anyways this is my transaction Yesterday.
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Bro, yo additional investment is non Bumi?
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Hello there, how to know when can open new AS account?
Is it got a time frame or just wait from the news?

A newbie here >_<
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When ASNB announce new units open for subscription by public
Alternatively, u can try to open new account at ASNB or its branches for better chance

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 3 2013, 12:02 PM)
they are just OLD book. so you can show off to others that you are either:

1. old fag / senior / long timer
2. u just never have enough transactions for a new book
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2nd one.
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i had a few 1990's books which have been replaced. they have lines so the teller can write / update manually by hand.

if i dig deeper, my ting ting book also have some entries written by hand.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 3 2013, 12:15 PM)
When ASNB announce new units open for subscription by public
Alternatively, u can try to open new account at ASNB or its branches for better chance
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Meaning if there is no announcement and I direct went to ASNB HQ or branches, still can open account?
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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 3 2013, 12:29 PM)
Wa lucifah u earn damn well also.
Anyways this is my transaction Yesterday.
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Banyaknya shocking.gif

Sigh, when can I invest this much...
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Meaning if there is no announcement and I direct went to ASNB HQ or branches, still can open account?
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First, staff at ASNB must assist u
Then, depends on yo luck whether have sufficient units for initial investment sum
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Banyaknya shocking.gif

Sigh, when can I invest this much...
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First, staff at ASNB must assist u
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Dear All,

Just for your information, i went to a ASNB branch this morning for my intention to try to open the account for ASW2020..

Well, I am quite disappointed but at least satisfied with their feedback towards my question..

At first, I asked them is it possible for me (chinese) to open the ASW2020 account, he responded to me that it is impossible..

Because he mentioned that, if he opens an account for me, and the initial deposit RM100 cannot be banked-in, he would have to write a memo to ASNB Office in KL to terminate the account.. He mentioned that it is a risk and hassle so he could not proceed.. Anyway, after that i tried to bank in into my AS1M, but unfortunately, no units available for the chinese..

However, he informed me that once you have the account, if would be easy because you could try and bank in.. If no quota, then can try again next time..

From his feedback, as i understood, unless the officers are very helpful to take the hassle, then they could help us to open the account.

Anyway, I am glad with his feedback which is more straight forward and honest compared to the feedback to i normally received from the banks.




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Banyaknya shocking.gif

Sigh, when can I invest this much...
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you're hardworking. that's your money  smile.gif
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First, staff at ASNB must assist u
Then, depends on yo luck whether have sufficient units for initial investment sum
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i no see the operation hours in asb hq or branch in the asb website.
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wrong. first, you must be very polite and humble to them. they are just salaried workers. make their day happier by giving them a smile
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 3 2013, 12:42 PM)
Dear All,

Just for your information, i went to a ASNB branch this morning for my intention to try to open the account for ASW2020..

Well, I am quite disappointed but at least satisfied with their feedback towards my question..

At first, I asked them is it possible for me (chinese) to open the ASW2020 account, he responded to me that it is impossible..

Because he mentioned that, if he opens an account for me, and the initial deposit RM100 cannot be banked-in, he would have to write a memo to ASNB Office in KL to terminate the account.. He mentioned that it is a risk and hassle so he could not proceed.. Anyway, after that i tried to bank in into my AS1M, but unfortunately, no units available for the chinese..

However, he informed me that once you have the account, if would be easy because you could try and bank in.. If no quota, then can try again next time..

From his feedback, as i understood, unless the officers are very helpful to take the hassle, then they could help us to open the account.

Anyway, I am glad with his feedback which is more straight forward and honest compared to the feedback to i normally received from the banks.
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So means that I can open account but just cannot make initial deposit?
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No luck today for asw2020 cry.gif . I went to PM, CIMB & MBB to try "top-up" all failed (even rm50 cannot doh.gif )

Waste my time & energy only vmad.gif mad.gif
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Dear All,

Just for your information, i went to a ASNB branch this morning for my intention to try to open the account for ASW2020..

Well, I am quite disappointed but at least satisfied with their feedback towards my question..

At first, I asked them is it possible for me (chinese) to open the ASW2020 account, he responded to me that it is impossible..

Because he mentioned that, if he opens an account for me, and the initial deposit RM100 cannot be banked-in, he would have to write a memo to ASNB Office in KL to terminate the account.. He mentioned that it is a risk and hassle so he could not proceed.. Anyway, after that i tried to bank in into my AS1M, but unfortunately, no units available for the chinese..

However, he informed me that once you have the account, if would be easy because you could try and bank in.. If no quota, then can try again next time..

From his feedback, as i understood, unless the officers are very helpful to take the hassle, then they could help us to open the account.

Anyway, I am glad with his feedback which is more straight forward and honest compared to the feedback to i normally received from the banks.
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The staff very good. Not everyone would explain like this to the customer.

Only now I know this information. None of the staff have mention this to me (even at ASNB offices)
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 3 2013, 02:52 PM)
The staff very good. Not everyone would explain like this to the customer. 

Only now I know this information. None of the staff have mention this to me (even at ASNB offices)
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Yes, if not because the staff is so informative and informing about this to me, i guess i will keep wasting my time 'shopping' around at those ASNB agents who only know how to answer... "cannot bo"..

At least i save some time, energy and my breath.. Bravo, ASNB.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 3 2013, 02:57 PM)
Yes, if not because the staff is so informative and informing about this to me, i guess i will keep wasting my time 'shopping' around at those ASNB agents who only know how to answer... "cannot bo"..

At least i save some time, energy and my breath.. Bravo, ASNB..  rclxms.gif
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Good for you rclxms.gif

Today I'm very sad. I cannot get any asw2020 units. Even rm50 also don't have doh.gif shakehead.gif
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LOL
2nd one.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 3 2013, 03:16 PM)
So how about asw2020? managed to open or not?
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no. wait next year ba....

i will never ever go PM already.

My dad go call my place punya PM branch head (they knew each other). Just simply say.

hey, pagi tadi kan, i dapat masuk 800 asw2020 la.

oh yea ke. apasal tak try buka account?

anak buah u la. cakap nak pengumuman dana baru, baru boleh buka. haha tak pe la. tahun depan je la.


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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 3 2013, 03:40 PM)
no. wait next year ba....

i will never ever go PM already.

My dad go call my place punya PM branch head (they knew each other). Just simply say.

hey, pagi tadi kan, i dapat masuk 800 asw2020 la.

oh yea ke. apasal tak try buka account?

anak buah u la. cakap nak pengumuman dana baru, baru boleh buka. haha tak pe la. tahun depan je la.
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oh okay.

Just because of one particular PM staff, you don't want to go again. Maybe next time get others staff more friendlier. who knows smile.gif

FYI, I didn't get any asw2020 units today cry.gif Even rm50 also don't have vmad.gif mad.gif


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Dont depend too much on PNB products. Try diversify into other investment vehicles. Unit trusts, bond, commodity, stocks. PNB invest those things before they can distribute 6.x% dividend. Join fundsupermart then people like pink spider & gark and others can help you.
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I wish I could be more diversify. But with average saving RM400-600 per month, how to diverse? I plan to do gold investment, but no much money. ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 3 2013, 04:09 PM)
I wish I could be more diversify. But with average saving RM400-600 per month, how to diverse? I plan to do gold investment, but no much money. ohmy.gif
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don't

i am expecting price to dip below usd900 for spot gold
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QUOTE(loselegend @ Sep 3 2013, 02:36 PM)
oic.
thanks for the heads up.
i no see the operation hours in asb hq or branch in the asb website.
normal working hours?
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So means that I can open account but just cannot make initial deposit?
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2nd - Need initial investment sum to open a/c
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 3 2013, 02:49 PM)
No luck today for asw2020 cry.gif .  I went to PM, CIMB & MBB to try "top-up" all failed (even rm50 cannot doh.gif )

Waste my time & energy only  vmad.gif  mad.gif
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Understand yo frustration
Try to top up again whenever u r free
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 3 2013, 04:21 PM)
don't

i am expecting price to dip below usd900 for spot gold
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In Q4/13 or Q1/14?
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In Q4/13 or Q1/14?
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Understand yo frustration
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Yup. Never give up rclxms.gif

I think people already grab all those available units yesterday. Today Nobody withdraws hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 3 2013, 04:21 PM)

i am expecting price to dip below usd900 for spot gold
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 3 2013, 04:34 PM)
that's the problem. i dunno when. i'm only expecting.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 3 2013, 03:02 PM)
Good for you  rclxms.gif

Today I'm very sad. I cannot get any asw2020 units. Even rm50 also don't have  doh.gif  shakehead.gif
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Well, at least you have the account for asw2020...

It looks like i really have to give up on ASW2020, unless there are additional units opened for subscription in future, which i deemed is quite impossible as they are now pushing for ASG..

Because this morning when i being there, while waiting, there is one officer (i think sales team) introduce to me about ASG..
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 3 2013, 04:09 PM)
I wish I could be more diversify. But with average saving RM400-600 per month, how to diverse? I plan to do gold investment, but no much money. ohmy.gif
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Good for you to have at least that range of average savings...

Now with the inflation going wild, not many can save even RM400 per month.. blush.gif

Should be due to the high commitments that most of the people have.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 3 2013, 04:40 PM)
Well, at least you have the account for asw2020...

It looks like i really have to give up on ASW2020, unless there are additional units opened for subscription in future, which i deemed is quite impossible as they are now pushing for ASG..

Because this morning when i being there, while waiting, there is one officer (i think sales team) introduce to me about ASG..
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Yea, I should be grateful I've the account (thanks to my parents for "forcing" me to open one) smile.gif

Nowadays every weekends you can see the the newspaper got advertisement about ASG. The one guy already very famous. Every weekend got his face in the paper telling ASG is good investment, help his life etc.

The only thing about ASG is the price fluctuation which directly link to performance of Bursa Malaysia. We cannot predict the price.
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 3 2013, 05:43 PM)
Good for you to have at least that range of average savings...

Now with the inflation going wild, not many can save even RM400 per month..  blush.gif

Should be due to the high commitments that most of the people have..  hmm.gif
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After oil price increase 20 cent unsure.gif , now I don't know if I could save RM400... doh.gif unsure.gif
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 3 2013, 04:21 PM)
don't

i am expecting price to dip below usd900 for spot gold
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Fundamentally I personally cannot see this happening. None of what used to be normal macro-economic behaviors where gold vs oil vs USD are always either a direct or inverse correlation with each other has been destroyed and thrown out of the window no thanks to the US-FED QE plan to just print money.

Gold used to be what investors rush to in flight to safety whenever USD or crude oil goes down but if one is to chart the prices since the 2008 financial crisis, everything is just haywire. Add to that ETFs that take large chunks of gold-related transactions, the basic fundamental of gold demand is just out of sequence with what most people used to believe how gold should behave.

Apologies in advance if I confuse anyone tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 3 2013, 04:55 PM)
After oil price increase 20 cent unsure.gif , now I don't know if I could save RM400...  doh.gif  unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 3 2013, 04:55 PM)
After oil price increase 20 cent unsure.gif , now I don't know if I could save RM400...  doh.gif  unsure.gif
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Just revise yo budget accordingly
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Sep 3 2013, 05:02 PM)
Fundamentally I personally cannot see this happening. None of what used to be normal macro-economic behaviors where gold vs oil vs USD are always either a direct or inverse correlation with each other has been destroyed and thrown out of the window no thanks to the US-FED QE plan to just print money.

Gold used to be what investors rush to in flight to safety whenever USD or crude oil goes down but if one is to chart the prices since the 2008 financial crisis, everything is just haywire. Add to that ETFs that take large chunks of gold-related transactions, the basic fundamental of gold demand is just out of sequence with what most people used to believe how gold should behave.

Apologies in advance if I confuse anyone tongue.gif
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The price is so unpredictable nowadays. See now, already dropped but not so "sharp" unlike in April. Dropped so "sharp" within few days shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 3 2013, 04:55 PM)
After oil price increase 20 cent unsure.gif , now I don't know if I could save RM400...  doh.gif  unsure.gif
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Dont worry, as long as you revise your budget, it still can be done..

I am going to revise my budget already.. especially my meals for lunch can revise to be not so costly..

Previously i have such plans but i did not really stick to it, as a result i spend between RM8 and RM10 per meal..

Now, seriously have to sacrifice to downgrade the budget to RM5 per meal, at least save about RM70 per month..

A sacrifice was required to earn passive income, nothing much can be done.. blush.gif
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 3 2013, 05:13 PM)
Dont worry, as long as you revise your budget, it still can be done..

I am going to revise my budget already.. especially my meals for lunch can revise to be not so costly..

Previously i have such plans but i did not really stick to it, as a result i spend between RM8 and RM10 per meal..

Now, seriously have to sacrifice to downgrade the budget to RM5 per meal, at least save about RM70 per month..

A sacrifice was required to earn passive income, nothing much can be done..  blush.gif
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What if the shop increase the food prices (they give logistic cost increase as excuses)? Now rm5/meal increased to rm6?

I'm expecting the price of goods & services to increase a bit vmad.gif mad.gif

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Worst case, goes to 1Malaysia People's Menu
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 3 2013, 05:23 PM)
Worst case, goes to 1Malaysia People's Menu
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 3 2013, 03:56 PM)
oh okay. 

Just because of one particular PM staff, you don't want to go again. Maybe next time get others staff more friendlier. who knows  smile.gif

FYI, I didn't get any asw2020 units today  cry.gif Even rm50 also don't have  vmad.gif  mad.gif
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there is group of them saying the same thing to me together.

that time only me 1 customer.

so they attack me lo
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 3 2013, 04:52 PM)
Yea, I should be grateful I've the account (thanks to my parents for "forcing" me to open one) smile.gif 

Nowadays every weekends you can see the the newspaper got advertisement about ASG. The one guy already very famous. Every weekend got his face in the paper telling ASG is good investment, help his life etc.

The only thing about ASG is the price fluctuation which directly link to performance of Bursa Malaysia. We cannot predict the price.
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lol. pricing drooooooooooooooooooop.

doh.gif doh.gif

lowest to 1.1xx ( last week )

highest to 1.17xx ( Mid july )
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lol. pricing drooooooooooooooooooop.

doh.gif  doh.gif 

lowest to 1.1xx ( last week )

highest to 1.17xx ( Mid july )
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 3 2013, 05:42 PM)
there is group of them saying the same thing to me together.

that time only me 1 customer.

so they attack me lo
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Next time bring your "Group", so they can "back-up" you when they "attack"
Kasi hentam sama dia biggrin.gif


QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 3 2013, 05:47 PM)
lol. pricing drooooooooooooooooooop.

doh.gif  doh.gif 

lowest to 1.1xx ( last week )

highest to 1.17xx ( Mid july )
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That I was saying. We cannot predict the price & it link to bursa malaysia performance doh.gif
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Can consider to implement DCA since they imposed 2% sales charge only
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what is DCA
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Dollar Cost Averaging.
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Oops...
Should be RCA
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Ringgit Cost Averaging

The technique of buying a fixed ringgit amount of a particular investment on a regular schedule, regardless of the share price. More shares are purchased when prices are low, and fewer shares are bought when prices are high.

Eventually, the average cost per share of the security will become smaller and smaller. Ringgit-cost averaging lessens the risk of investing a large amount in a single investment at the wrong time.

For example, you decide to purchase $100 worth of XYZ each month for three months. In January, XYZ is worth $33, so you buy three shares. In February, XYZ is worth $25, so you buy four additional shares. Finally, in March, XYZ is worth $20, so you buy five shares. In total, you purchased 12 shares for an average price of approximately $25 each.

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There is another tool name DVA or RVA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_averaging
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Ringgit Cost Averaging

The technique of buying a fixed ringgit amount of a particular investment on a regular schedule, regardless of the share price. More shares are purchased when prices are low, and fewer shares are bought when prices are high.

Eventually, the average cost per share of the security will become smaller and smaller. Ringgit-cost averaging lessens the risk of investing a large amount in a single investment at the wrong time.

For example, you decide to purchase $100 worth of XYZ each month for three months. In January, XYZ is worth $33, so you buy three shares. In February, XYZ is worth $25, so you buy four additional shares. Finally, in March, XYZ is worth $20, so you buy five shares. In total, you purchased 12 shares for an average price of approximately $25 each.
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to be honest, not that worth when the promotion end. haha.

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 3 2013, 07:44 PM)
to be honest, not that worth when the promotion end. haha.
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The promotion is only "bonus" for those interested biggrin.gif
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The promotion is only "bonus" for those interested biggrin.gif
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ASN 0.8743 5.00 -
ASN 2 1.2728 5.00 3.00
ASN 3 1.1861 5.00 3.00
ASG-Pendidikan 1.0793 2.00 2.00
ASG-Kesihatan 1.1393 2.00 2.00
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ASW 2020 1.0000 - -
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 3 2013, 05:17 PM)
What if the shop increase the food prices (they give logistic cost increase as excuses)? Now rm5/meal increased to rm6? 

I'm expecting the price of goods & services to increase a bit  vmad.gif  mad.gif
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Yape, i am also expecting the increase also...

Since the day the petrol price increase, you would see the news talking about 'Ministry will ensure inflation will not happen', 'Food price will be monitored', etc.. it seems to me more like to bluff.. Its a simple mathematics that they think we dont know.. An increase will petrol will definitely increase the cost of living as food prices, and other household products due to higher logistics cost..

Now they will not increase the price, but next month, i believe those prices of the foods and household products will increase..

Say want to control inflation, but they are doing the opposite..
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Yape, i am also expecting the increase also...

Since the day the petrol price increase, you would see the news talking about 'Ministry will ensure inflation will not happen', 'Food price will be monitored', etc.. it seems to me more like to bluff.. Its a simple mathematics that they think we dont know.. An increase will petrol will definitely increase the cost of living as food prices, and other household products due to higher logistics cost..

Now they will not increase the price, but next month, i believe those prices of the foods and household products will increase..

Say want to control inflation, but they are doing the opposite..
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One of the reason why petrol price increase is due to weakening Ringgit against Usd. Petrol price is commodity and it is priced in usd.

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 4 2013, 08:25 AM)
Yape, i am also expecting the increase also...

Since the day the petrol price increase, you would see the news talking about 'Ministry will ensure inflation will not happen', 'Food price will be monitored', etc.. it seems to me more like to bluff.. Its a simple mathematics that they think we dont know.. An increase will petrol will definitely increase the cost of living as food prices, and other household products due to higher logistics cost..

Now they will not increase the price, but next month, i believe those prices of the foods and household products will increase..

Say want to control inflation, but they are doing the opposite..
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They just simply said that, so people would feel better. People actually know what would happen soon mad.gif vmad.gif
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it should be at that mark, judging from ASM & ASW2020 performance.

it was 6.60% last year and it was good.

anything above 4.95% is good enough for me.
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 4 2013, 05:33 PM)
it should be at that mark, judging from ASM & ASW2020 performance.

it was 6.60% last year and it was good.

anything above 4.95% is good enough for me.
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Anything above 6% is already good for me rclxms.gif

I hope for 6.8% drool.gif thumbup.gif
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Anything above 6% is already good for me  rclxms.gif

I hope for 6.8%  drool.gif  thumbup.gif
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it won't be that high, imo.

range 6.5 - 6.7
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it won't be that high, imo.

range 6.5 - 6.7
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I know it's too high, who know maybe they could announce at that high smile.gif

6.7% also okay, same like asw2020 thumbup.gif
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I know it's too high, who know maybe they could announce at that high  smile.gif 

6.7% also okay, same like asw2020  thumbup.gif
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0.1% won't make much difference

given a scenario of 100k balance, a 0.1% = RM 100 difference only.

so dun sweat too much
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I know it's too high, who know maybe they could announce at that high  smile.gif 

6.7% also okay, same like asw2020  thumbup.gif
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so nice you sad.gif

what book also got
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 4 2013, 08:25 AM)
Yape, i am also expecting the increase also...

Since the day the petrol price increase, you would see the news talking about 'Ministry will ensure inflation will not happen', 'Food price will be monitored', etc.. it seems to me more like to bluff.. Its a simple mathematics that they think we dont know.. An increase will petrol will definitely increase the cost of living as food prices, and other household products due to higher logistics cost..

Now they will not increase the price, but next month, i believe those prices of the foods and household products will increase..

Say want to control inflation, but they are doing the opposite..
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agree, which businessman want to bear the cost? eventually only the end user or customer like us bear the cost.

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Today try another 10k units for asw2020. Haih no luck today. The staff keep trying for 30mins end up kosong. Look like withdrawal almost finish.
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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 4 2013, 09:04 PM)
Today try another 10k units for asw2020. Haih no luck today. The staff keep trying for 30mins end up kosong. Look like withdrawal almost finish.
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Where u top up?
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so nice you  sad.gif

what book also got
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don't say like that.

The suffering I had when opening the account especially ASW2020, No words can explain my suffering. I started Q at 4am just to get the top 10 in line mad.gif then when my turn came already sold-out. How do you feel? Very2 frustrating right, that time I like wanna "burn-down" the asnb branch only.

Now also suffering for "top-up" but I don't need Q at 4am smile.gif
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Today try another 10k units for asw2020. Haih no luck today. The staff keep trying for 30mins end up kosong. Look like withdrawal almost finish.
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Too bad. I think already sold out. No one is withdrawing now. Those available units, people already grab on monday biggrin.gif
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no one opened a purple book aka ASDidik?
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no one opened a purple book aka ASDidik?
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Since I follow this thread, I don't see anyone talking about ASD. Only ASB & open to all Malaysian fund are famous here sweat.gif
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Since I follow this thread, I don't see anyone talking about ASD. Only ASB & open to all Malaysian fund are famous here  sweat.gif
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The fund size is the smallest among all fixed price fund
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no one opened a purple book aka ASDidik?
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ASD only for bumi and it is full for subscription.
The fund size is the smallest among all fixed price fund
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ASD dividend for 2013 is 6.8% and 6.6% for 2012.. could the AS1M be 6.8% as well?

ASD fully subscribed? even for bumi?
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 5 2013, 12:55 AM)
don't say like that. 

The suffering I had when opening the account especially ASW2020, No words can explain my suffering. I started Q at 4am just to get the top 10 in line  mad.gif  then when my turn came already sold-out. How do you feel? Very2 frustrating right, that time I like wanna "burn-down" the asnb branch only.

Now also suffering for "top-up" but I don't need Q at 4am  smile.gif
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sure la angry. I want kill that people who refuse to help me open... Calculate analyses for so long, wait for this only day, in the end, end up losing....
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ASD fully subscribed? even for bumi?
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ASN 0.8716 5.00 -
ASN 2 1.2698 5.00 3.00
ASN 3 1.1849 5.00 3.00
ASG-Pendidikan 1.0776 2.00 2.00
ASG-Kesihatan 1.1375 2.00 2.00
ASG-Persaraan 1.2272 2.00 2.00
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ASM 1.0000 - -
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Top up ASB via online n stand a chance to win prizes

http://www.asnb.com.my/LOL/LOL2013_BM.pdf
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 5 2013, 09:23 AM)
Top up ASB via online n stand a chance to win prizes

http://www.asnb.com.my/LOL/LOL2013_BM.pdf
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Looks like they're really pushing for people to go online. Unfortunately they need to rely on bank's online platform which is limited in terms of funds that can be invested.

We should really ask PNB to come up with their own online portal/website that isn't limited like what the bank's have.
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HARGA HARI INI 
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ASN 0.8716  5.00  - 
ASN 2 1.2698  5.00  3.00 
ASN 3 1.1849  5.00  3.00 
ASG-Pendidikan 1.0776  2.00  2.00 
ASG-Kesihatan 1.1375  2.00  2.00 
ASG-Persaraan 1.2272  2.00  2.00 
ASB 1.0000  -  - 
ASW 2020 1.0000  -  - 
ASM 1.0000  -  - 
ASD 1.0000  -  - 
AS1M 1.0000  -  -
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Top up ASB via online n stand a chance to win prizes

http://www.asnb.com.my/LOL/LOL2013_BM.pdf
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i dunno what you are trying to do here, but if you want to spam here with so many posts instead of in one post, i do suspect that you want a free post-count reset with that?
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don't say like that. 

The suffering I had when opening the account especially ASW2020, No words can explain my suffering. I started Q at 4am just to get the top 10 in line  mad.gif  then when my turn came already sold-out. How do you feel? Very2 frustrating right, that time I like wanna "burn-down" the asnb branch only.

Now also suffering for "top-up" but I don't need Q at 4am  smile.gif
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That's why I said I gave up long time ago. Felt like a poor dog scrambling for crumbs thrown out on the street when trying to open account. For trying to top up, felt like dogs begging for some crumbs while unsure whether can get any or not. All this just because we want to get better interest rates. AsIcompared to the privileged who can waltz in anytime to get interest rates that are higher....... sad isn't it?
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That's why I said I gave up long time ago. Felt like a poor dog scrambling for crumbs thrown out on the street when trying to open account. For trying to top up, felt like dogs begging for some crumbs while unsure whether can get any or not. All this just because we want to get better interest rates. AsIcompared to the privileged who can waltz in anytime to get interest rates that are higher....... sad isn't it?
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that is why i pity my other prince of earth comrades. other races are struggling to get the funds while bumi allocations are left aplenty... sad.gif
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 5 2013, 10:42 AM)
that is why i pity my other prince of earth comrades. other races are struggling to get the funds while bumi allocations are left aplenty...  sad.gif
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I'm going to disagree on the above for 2 reasons:

1. ASB is an open ended fund as compared to other fixed price funds. Theoretically there's no way for ASB allocation can be filled up.

2. Per capita income among the major races in Malaysia does show that the Malays have the largest make up of population under the poverty line. Malays can never save as much say the Chinese can based on the statistics available.
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 5 2013, 10:40 AM)
That's why I said I gave up long time ago. Felt like a poor dog scrambling for crumbs thrown out on the street when trying to open account. For trying to top up, felt like dogs begging for some crumbs while unsure whether can get any or not. All this just because we want to get better interest rates. AsIcompared to the privileged who can waltz in anytime to get interest rates that are higher....... sad isn't it?
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the ugly truth......

lately, the FD rare is getting lower and lower. FD promo are worsened.

FD rate never bounced back after 2008, still at 3.15 pa, compared to 3.75 pa in 2007....

indirectly, the demand for this funds is getting stronger and stronger..... :/
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Based on the prevailing FD rates right now, BNM is unlikely to revise the OPR anytime soon
Demand for fixed price funds remain high
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sure la angry. I want kill that people who refuse to help me open... Calculate analyses for so long, wait for this only day, in the end, end up losing....
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Anyway It's some kind of life experience. We can meet different people from all backgrounds & shares old time stories. One of them is one old Chinese uncle. He told a lot of stories especially the existence of PNB & the "London Stock Exchange Raid". Not bad for an old timer like him. I don't know where he are now, Maybe he migrated to Australia with his children hmm.gif

don't worry, maybe next time got chance to open new account. God willing biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 5 2013, 10:40 AM)
That's why I said I gave up long time ago. Felt like a poor dog scrambling for crumbs thrown out on the street when trying to open account. For trying to top up, felt like dogs begging for some crumbs while unsure whether can get any or not. All this just because we want to get better interest rates. As I compared to the privileged who can waltz in anytime to get interest rates that are higher....... sad isn't it?
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I know the feeling, but what to do? We need some kind of "safe" investment. We cannot just put all our money in "high risk" investment. What if we lose all those hard earn money, Then 14th floor jump is the answer cry.gif .

About the "privileged" people, I cannot say much. If I go deeper, I would end up in Jail cry.gif
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ASD dividend for 2013 is 6.8% and 6.6% for 2012.. could the AS1M be 6.8% as well?

ASD fully subscribed? even for bumi?
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AS1M dividend most likely would be the same as ASW2020.

ASD only invest in halal stocks, no banking/ gaming stocks. It is also the best performance fund besides ASB, it has the undistributed profit of 4 cents per unit being carried forward to the following years.
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 5 2013, 10:40 AM)
That's why I said I gave up long time ago. Felt like a poor dog scrambling for crumbs thrown out on the street when trying to open account. For trying to top up, felt like dogs begging for some crumbs while unsure whether can get any or not. All this just because we want to get better interest rates. AsIcompared to the privileged who can waltz in anytime to get interest rates that are higher....... sad isn't it?
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There are many other opportunities who give good return. Such as Bond funds, REITS funds.

REITS give regular returns and the stock price less volatile.
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Following the thread like 2 months, looks like I am the only one have ASG = =
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for variable priced funds, i'd rather choose offerings from the selection of PB mutual funds - there are many agents who is willing to help and recommend you the funds suited to your needs

i tried aggressive fund, and with all the ups and downs, still got a clean return of about 5+ % after exactly a year. then i w/drew the fund (i used my EPF acc2 for the experiment)

if u go for the normal, non-aggressive growth funds, u can earn better in long run
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 5 2013, 11:35 AM)
There are many other opportunities who give good return. Such as Bond funds, REITS funds.

REITS give regular returns and the stock price less volatile.
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That's why we find other ways to grow money.... like me who used to goreng REITS!!! biggrin.gif

Anyway, can't wait to get the dividend for AS1M. smile.gif
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 5 2013, 11:53 AM)
for variable priced funds, i'd rather choose offerings from the selection of PB mutual funds - there are many agents who is willing to help and recommend you the funds suited to your needs

i tried aggressive fund, and with all the ups and downs, still got a clean return of about 5+ % after exactly a year. then i w/drew the fund (i used my EPF acc2 for the experiment)

if u go for the normal, non-aggressive growth funds, u can earn better in long run
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I thought ASG is conservative/defensive fund. i totally don't know it is that "aggressive" O.O"

My sis have PBM, but the return for some year is same / below normal FD rate == maybe the portfolio she chosen isn't good enough...
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 5 2013, 11:55 AM)
That's why we find other ways to grow money.... like me who used to goreng REITS!!! biggrin.gif

Anyway, can't wait to get the dividend for AS1M. smile.gif
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Yape, i am expecting the announcement of the dividend to be between the 23-26th October 2013..

I am looking forward to the dividend.. nod.gif
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Yape, i am expecting the announcement of the dividend to be between the 23-26th October 2013..

I am looking forward to the dividend..  nod.gif
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AS1M dividend most likely would be the same as ASW2020.

ASD only invest in halal stocks, no banking/ gaming stocks. It is also the best performance fund besides ASB, it has the undistributed profit of 4 cents per unit being carried forward to the following years.
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Not bad for the fund that don't invest in banking stocks rclxms.gif

I respect their investment officers thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 5 2013, 11:55 AM)
That's why we find other ways to grow money.... like me who used to goreng REITS!!! biggrin.gif

Anyway, can't wait to get the dividend for AS1M. smile.gif
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Good for you bro, Reits also can goreng notworthy.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 5 2013, 01:34 PM)
it should be in this month, September
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Sorry, I kind of type wrongly..

Anyway, I am hoping for a dividend declaration of 6.8% or maybe worse come to worse, 6.7%...
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 5 2013, 02:44 PM)
Sorry, I kind of type wrongly..

Anyway, I am hoping for a dividend declaration of 6.8% or maybe worse come to worse, 6.7%...
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above 7% very2 good

above 8% excellence rclxm9.gif

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Hi, sifus~

May I know among all, ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD which one can be applied by non bumi? where and when can apply it? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Cattitude @ Sep 5 2013, 02:54 PM)
Hi, sifus~

May I know among all, ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD which one can be applied by non bumi? where and when can apply it? unsure.gif
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Please refer to the first page, it is stated over there or you can go to www.asnb.com.my

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Please refer to the first page, it is stated over there or you can go to www.asnb.com.my
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QUOTE(Cattitude @ Sep 5 2013, 02:54 PM)
Hi, sifus~

May I know among all, ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD which one can be applied by non bumi? where and when can apply it? unsure.gif
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ASN3, ASG, ASW2020, ASM & AS1M smile.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 5 2013, 03:09 PM)
ASN3, ASG, ASW2020, ASM & AS1M  smile.gif
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Can I apply it anytime? or it is only eligible at certain period?
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QUOTE(Cattitude @ Sep 5 2013, 03:10 PM)
Can I apply it anytime? or it is only eligible at certain period?
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ASN3 & ASG - ANYTIME (if suspended for dividend calculation, cannot buy)

ASW2020, ASM & AS1M - NO chance now (for non-bumi only)
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ASN3 n ASG = anytime
ASW2020, ASM n AS1M = when they announce new units for subscription
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 5 2013, 03:14 PM)
ASN3 & ASG - ANYTIME (if suspended for dividend calculation, cannot buy)

ASW2020, ASM & AS1M  - NO chance now (for non-bumi only)
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what does it means in bold? unsure.gif

QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 5 2013, 03:16 PM)
ASN3 n ASG = anytime
ASW2020, ASM n AS1M = when they announce new units for subscription
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If it sounded anytime, and do not sell like a hot cake like the other, means there are perceived risks right? unsure.gif

any news for the new announcement so far?
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ASN3 n ASG = variable price
ASW2020, ASM n AS1M = fixed price

Investment choice depends on yo risk appetite
Read the Prospectus first b4 u invest
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QUOTE(Cattitude @ Sep 5 2013, 03:21 PM)
what does it means in bold?  unsure.gif
If it sounded anytime, and do not sell like a hot cake like the other, means there are perceived risks right?  unsure.gif

any news for the new announcement so far?
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The bold one means the fund transaction would be suspended, meaning no open new account, "top-up" or withdrawal.

ASG - Normally March 20 above, April 1st back to normal

ASN3 - Normally November 20 above, December 1st back to normal

Currently those fixed price fund not available for opening new account

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My prediction is correct
BNM have maintained the OPR @ 3%
Fixed price products will b in good demand as current 12 months FD (3.15%) is not competitive

http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_pres...ac=2873&lang=en

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 5 2013, 06:47 PM)
My prediction is correct
BNM have maintained the OPR @ 3%
Fixed price products will b in good demand as current 12 months FD (3.15%) is not competitive

http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_pres...ac=2873&lang=en
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OPR maintained only until end of this year. let's see where it goes after that.
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 5 2013, 07:07 PM)
OPR maintained only until end of this year. let's see where it goes after that.
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sorry newbie here.

what is OPR and how does it affect?
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 5 2013, 07:56 PM)
sorry newbie here.

what is OPR and how does it affect?
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overnight policy rate

basically this is what determines the base lending rate in malaysia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overnight_policy_rate

http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_pres...ess_all&ac=2873

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OPR maintained only until end of this year. let's see where it goes after that.
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why you said like that? Next year the economy getting worse than now?
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why you said like that? Next year the economy getting worse than now?
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not me who say. BNM says mainatined until year end. i guess have something to do with UMNO AGM end of this year...? hmm.gif
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not me who say. BNM says mainatined until year end. i guess have something to do with UMNO AGM end of this year...?  hmm.gif
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One thing I realize, UMNO AGM very2 important. What that said there may become as a benchmark for future policy of the country (not all are follow, maybe part of it). This year one must closely watch & analyzed it smile.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 5 2013, 10:06 PM)
why you said like that? Next year the economy getting worse than now?
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It all really depends on how the US-Fed proceed with its tapering program. They have an important jobs-report data coming out later today which may signal the end of QE.

I believe BNM decided to maintain its OPR rate as inflation is still under control (somewhat) despite the recent fuel price hike and the current rates are "accommodative" to domestic consumption and businesses. Add to that the flight to safety of foreign funds back to US when the US-Fed bond buying tapering starts, I guess our "super-woman" Tan Sri Zeti and the committee believes that holding the rates steady would suffice for now.

I don't believe it has anything to do with UMNO's AGM, it's a non-event as far as macro-economics are concerned tongue.gif
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No luck today. Failed to get any asw2020 units cry.gif mad.gif
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Where u try to top up?
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It all really depends on how the US-Fed proceed with its tapering program. They have an important jobs-report data coming out later today which may signal the end of QE.

I believe BNM decided to maintain its OPR rate as inflation is still under control (somewhat) despite the recent fuel price hike and the current rates are "accommodative" to domestic consumption and businesses. Add to that the flight to safety of foreign funds back to US when the US-Fed bond buying tapering starts, I guess our "super-woman" Tan Sri Zeti and the committee believes that holding the rates steady would suffice for now.

I don't believe it has anything to do with UMNO's AGM, it's a non-event as far as macro-economics are concerned tongue.gif
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US & it's economic programs always have impact on the world. We're too dependent to US doh.gif

Our BNM always very unique, always don't follow others countries Central Bank. I really respect to our BNM Governor, always use "unconventional" ways of managing the direction of the economy notworthy.gif
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Where u try to top up?
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PosMalaysia & CIMB bank, No luck (even rm50 don't have) mad.gif vmad.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 6 2013, 11:54 AM)
PosMalaysia & CIMB bank, No luck (even rm50 don't have)  mad.gif  vmad.gif
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U have ASM n AS1M?
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 6 2013, 11:52 AM)
US & it's economic programs always have impact on the world. We're too dependent to US  doh.gif

Our BNM always very unique, always don't follow others countries Central Bank. I really respect to our BNM Governor, always use "unconventional" ways of managing the direction of the economy  notworthy.gif
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She's highly rated by the world. Recently she was awarded the grade/rating of "A" which isn't the first time. I'm more worried about who would be her successor than UMNO's AGM tongue.gif hehehehhe
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Sep 6 2013, 12:06 PM)
She's highly rated by the world. Recently she was awarded the grade/rating of "A" which isn't the first time. I'm more worried about who would be her successor than UMNO's AGM tongue.gif hehehehhe
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There are hidden talents within BNM
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U have ASM n AS1M?
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yup. smile.gif

why? anything wrong? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 6 2013, 12:07 PM)
Dun worry
There are hidden talents within BNM
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Are you sure? The way I look, Got "normal" talent only. Nothing much to offer smile.gif
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Dun worry
There are hidden talents within BNM
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I certainly hope so. Brilliant ppl like here normally only comes once every generation. Finding a replacement as good would be tough wink.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 6 2013, 02:13 PM)
yup. smile.gif

why? anything wrong?  hmm.gif
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If ASW2020 is unsuccessful, Y dun u try ASM n AS1M also

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Nope
If ASW2020 is unsuccessful, Y dun u try ASM n AS1M also
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ASM already gone case. why? because the staff "advice" me it's very hard to get because VERY2 FEW people withdraw & own it unlike ASW2020 & AS1M smile.gif

AS1M also already sold-out cry.gif

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 6 2013, 02:15 PM)
Are you sure? The way I look, Got "normal" talent only. Nothing much to offer  smile.gif
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M confident they alredy have succession planning in place
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Brilliant ppl like here normally only comes once every generation. Finding a replacement as good would be tough wink.gif
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I agree rclxms.gif

I think very hard to find her replacement cry.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 6 2013, 02:27 PM)
ASM already gone case. why? because the staff "advice" me it's very hard to get because VERY2 FEW people withdraw & own it unlike ASW2020 & AS1M  smile.gif

AS1M also already sold-out  cry.gif
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Since u alredy at PM n CIMB, no harm trying
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 6 2013, 02:40 PM)
Since u alredy at PM n CIMB, no harm trying
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yup, next time I could try do that smile.gif
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ASM already gone case. why? because the staff "advice" me it's very hard to get because VERY2 FEW people withdraw & own it unlike ASW2020 & AS1M  smile.gif

AS1M also already sold-out  cry.gif
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some correction: AS1M & ASW2020 non-bumiputra allocations are fully subscribed.

the bumi allocations are always available
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some correction: AS1M & ASW2020 non-bumiputra allocations are fully subscribed.

the bumi allocations are always available
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yea, forgot to tell that blush.gif

Anytime available for ASW2020 & AS1M (Only BUMI)
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I thought ASW2020 for Bumi also fully subscribed
My colleague (bumi) went to ASNB Shah Alam today for top up n was advised 'habis'
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I thought ASW2020 for Bumi also fully subscribed
My colleague (bumi) went to ASNB Shah Alam today for top up n was advised 'habis'
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That is right, ASD and ASW bumi quota need to relying on luck.
AS1M bumi always available.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 6 2013, 05:39 PM)
I thought ASW2020 for Bumi also fully subscribed
My colleague (bumi) went to ASNB Shah Alam today for top up n was advised 'habis'
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Really? I tot Bumi always available for asw2020.

If really "habis", then how lucifah bumi client managed to put few k in asw2020? hmm.gif


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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 6 2013, 06:38 PM)
Really? I tot Bumi always available for asw2020.

If really "habis", then how lucifah bumi client managed to put few k in asw2020?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 6 2013, 06:38 PM)
Really? I tot Bumi always available for asw2020.

If really "habis", then how lucifah bumi client managed to put few k in asw2020?  hmm.gif
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asw didik asm asim etc are only temporarily parked..to gain some dividend. most bumi would go for asb. only when they have maxed out their asb would they go for this fund.

as to why lucifah client managed to top up 20k..my guess is there are quite a number of bumi resorted to 200k asb loan. so they have to take out the money tht they already hv in asb say 40k and dump it in those temporary fund. wht they do is on the first day of each month they will withdraw the money and pay for their loan..

here they can gain some devidend rather then paying for the loan in one shot. so this process will free some amount in asw although technically this fund fully subscribed regardless on bumi or nonbumi..

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QUOTE(masami @ Sep 8 2013, 02:01 PM)
asw didik asm asim etc are only temporarily parked..to gain some dividend. most bumi would go for asb. only when they have maxed out their asb would they go for this fund.

as to why lucifah client managed to top up 20k..my guess is there are quite a number of bumi resorted to 200k asb loan. so they have to take out the money tht they already hv in asb say 40k and dump it in those temporary fund. wht they do is on the first day of each month they will withdraw the money and pay for their loan..

here they can gain some devidend rather then paying for the loan in one shot. so this process will free some amount in asw although technically this fund fully subscribed regardless on bumi or nonbumi..
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Your explanation seem logical, that's why some managed to add while others failed.

I've heard before people using dividend money to pay loans. I tot once a year, now you said on monthly basis people do it.

Someone told that ASB dividend somehow indirectly "haram", so they use it to pay loan interest which also indirectly "haram".
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 8 2013, 02:38 PM)
Your explanation seem logical, that's why some managed to add while others failed.

I've heard before people using dividend money to pay loans. I tot once a year, now you said on monthly basis people do it.

Someone told that ASB dividend somehow indirectly "haram", so they use it to pay loan interest which also indirectly "haram".
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what i meant was instead of paying for the asb loan in one lumpsum ammount let say 15k a year. they would park the money in asw etc fund..and only take out around 1.2 each month to service the loan. so they will still be entitled to get a prorated dividend on the remaining ammount which will ofcourse entail a lesser devidend over the cause of the year.. the dividend is still calculated on the yearly basis.

some muslim considered asb as haram..not only dividend as it is not shariah compliance. but for some they considered it to be harus as decreed by majlis fatwa kebangsaan.

maybank offers asb finncing i..which is islamic loan. so there is no question of interest etc. unless one starts to question the islamif banking itself.

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QUOTE(masami @ Sep 8 2013, 02:56 PM)
what i meant was instead of paying for the asb loan in one lump-sum amount let say 15k a year. they would park the money in asw etc fund..and only take out around 1.2 each month to service the loan. so they will still be entitled to get a prorated dividend on the remaining amount which will of course entail a lesser devidend over the cause of the year.. the dividend is still calculated on the yearly basis.

some muslim considered asb as haram..not only dividend as it is not shariah compliance. but for some they considered it to be harus as decreed by majlis fatwa kebangsaan.

maybank offers asb financing i..which is islamic loan. so there is no question of interest etc. unless one starts to question the Islamic banking itself.
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okay, Now I somehow understand that you're saying blush.gif

About the "harus" or "haram" thing, I cannot comment much. It's up to individual preference.

About the islamic financing thing, I'm not so sure. It's no interest, but people actually pay more to the bank on monthly basis. rclxub.gif

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Any non bumi ASM products that are still open that can give better than FD rates?
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Nope
All fully subscribed now
U can try luck
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Any non bumi ASM products that are still open that can give better than FD rates?
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Fixed price fund currently sold out.

Variable price fund are available if you're interested. (ASN3 & ASG)
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Any non bumi ASM products that are still open that can give better than FD rates?
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ASM is a funds of ASNB.
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ASM is a funds of ASNB.
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ok then, any non bumi ASNB's products that are still open that gives better than FD rates?
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ok then, any non bumi ASNB's products that are still open that gives better than FD rates?
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ASN3 n ASG is variable pricing
Wud advise to choose Public Mutual for variable pricing products
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Yes
ASN3 n ASG is variable pricing
Wud advise to choose Public Mutual for variable pricing products
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Withdraw 2k from ASB....code withdraw 1310 right?

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Why withdraw
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People simply won't withdraw ASB money, got reason for it biggrin.gif
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No issue for ASB holders
They can top up later once $ is available coz each of them can buy up to RM200k
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No issue for ASB holders
They can top up later once $ is available coz each of them can buy up to RM200k
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Yup, anytime except when suspended for dividend calculation

I hope there would be same kind of "open" & unlimited fund with let say capped at 100k/person like ASB & it's open to all Malaysian. thumbup.gif


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finally, asg bounce back to 1.15XX ^^
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Tomorrow ASG will goes higher coz KLCI up 15 points now
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ASG Price movements linked to Bursa Malaysia CI performance
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People simply won't withdraw ASB money, got reason for it  biggrin.gif
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Yape, sometimes tight budget, no choice but to withdraw..

But anyway, no issue with it because ASB account holders can deposit into the account at any given time..

Its not like us non bumi who have to deposit to the fixed unit trust account through trial and error, we will feel reluctant and frustrated when we have to withdraw the money from the account..
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 10 2013, 02:44 PM)
Why withdraw
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 10 2013, 03:31 PM)
People simply won't withdraw ASB money, got reason for it  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 10 2013, 05:27 PM)
Yape, sometimes tight budget, no choice but to withdraw..

But anyway, no issue with it because ASB account holders can deposit into the account at any given time..

Its not like us non bumi who have to deposit to the fixed unit trust account through trial and error, we will feel reluctant and frustrated when we have to withdraw the money from the account..
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My dad needs the money. So I'm lending him some.

Since he help me A LOT, so I can't say NO. Must ikhlaskan diri nod.gif
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 10 2013, 04:29 PM)
My dad needs the money. So I'm lending him some.

Since he help me A LOT, so I can't say NO. Must ikhlaskan diri nod.gif
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No worries, you will be able to bank in back the monies in future..

At least you are in a better position than me.. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 10 2013, 04:29 PM)
My dad needs the money. So I'm lending him some.

Since he help me A LOT, so I can't say NO. Must ikhlaskan diri nod.gif
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Oh like that.

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 10 2013, 05:33 PM)
No worries, you will be able to bank in back the monies in future..

At least you are in a better position than me..  nod.gif
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Better position as in what?

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 10 2013, 04:27 PM)
Yape, sometimes tight budget, no choice but to withdraw..

But anyway, no issue with it because ASB account holders can deposit into the account at any given time..

Its not like us non bumi who have to deposit to the fixed unit trust account through trial and error, we will feel reluctant and frustrated when we have to withdraw the money from the account..
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Non-bumi most of the time failed to get any fixed price unit trust doh.gif vmad.gif mad.gif Wasting time & money only mad.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 10 2013, 04:41 PM)
Better position as in what?

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Better position in terms of no need to feel sad to withdraw the AS1M and ASM..

If feel sad when i have no choice but to withdraw funds from there..
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 10 2013, 04:44 PM)
Non-bumi most of the time failed to get any fixed price unit trust  doh.gif  vmad.gif  mad.gif  Wasting time & money only  mad.gif  cry.gif
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Yape, after trying so hard to bank in, then when some issues happen, feel so reluctant to withdraw the money from there.. cry.gif
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No need to feel sad
Just setup n implement assets allocation
When u have xtra $, u will know where it should goes to.....

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 10 2013, 05:02 PM)
No need to feel sad
Just setup n implement assets allocation
When u have xtra $, u will know where it should goes to.....
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Already have some kind of assets allocation, but the investment have risk unlike this amanah saham. It's almost risk free.

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 10 2013, 05:10 PM)
Already have some kind of assets allocation, but the investment have risk unlike this amanah saham. It's almost risk free.
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If u r risk averse, allocate higher % (lets say 95%) of fixed price Funds in yo assets allocation

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 10 2013, 05:23 PM)
If u r risk averse, allocate higher % (lets say 95%) of fixed price Funds in yo assets allocation
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that's very high % shakehead.gif

Should be around 60% +- sweat.gif

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 10 2013, 05:41 PM)
that's very high % shakehead.gif

Should be around 60% +-  sweat.gif
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U decide wat u want in yo assets allocation...
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 10 2013, 05:58 PM)
U decide wat u want in yo assets allocation...
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A quick update. I just bank in and update my wife book at post office pusat bandar damansara..
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QUOTE(navink @ Sep 11 2013, 11:08 AM)
A quick update. I just bank in and update my wife book at post office pusat bandar damansara..
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U managed to buy which 1?
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U managed to buy which 1?
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A quick update. I just bank in and update my wife book at post office pusat bandar damansara..
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why u need to tell us about this? if it is ASB top ups?
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why u need to tell us about this? if it is ASB top ups?
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i need to tell this becoz ASB rule stated only the account holder can update their passbook.

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Looks like Pos dun follow procedure or they dun know got such a procedure
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 11 2013, 11:36 AM)
Looks like Pos dun follow procedure or they dun know got such a procedure
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Yup, no problems updating the passbook for others. They still would "layan" you even you bring 5-6 passbook at one go nod.gif
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I know a lot of non-bumi didn't get any chance for the fixed price fund, so be cool about it. It's not end of the world.

Just don't vent the anger to those "privilege" people who got their "special" amanah saham. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 11 2013, 11:25 AM)
why u need to tell us about this? if it is ASB top ups?
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this is a discussion thread. no difference with some updates regarding ASW2020 or AS1M or ASM topup u guys shared.

it is not like if one person can top up ASW non bumi meaning you can also do the same. so, cheer up.

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 11 2013, 12:29 PM)
this is a discussion thread. no difference with some updates regarding ASW2020 or AS1M or ASM topup u guys shared.

it is not like if one person can top up ASW non bumi meaning you can also do the same. so, cheer up.

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 11 2013, 01:59 PM)
There is no issue on topping up for ASB
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and topping up AS1M and ASW is also a non-issue smile.gif

for bumi and non-bumi

now only waiting for the imminent announcement of AS1M dividend.
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 11 2013, 02:42 PM)

now only waiting for the imminent announcement of AS1M dividend.

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ASNB on 5/8/2013 announced Penangguhan Urus Niaga (PUN) for ASW2020 from 25/8 to 1/9
ASNB have yet to announce PUN for AS1M as of todate

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 11 2013, 03:14 PM)
ASNB on 5/8/2013 announced Penangguhan Urus Niaga (PUN) for ASW2020 from 25/8 to 1/9
ASNB have yet to announce PUN for AS1M as of todate
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Just be patient, maybe early next week they would announce it.

Actually most people don't care when they suspended it for dividend calculation. Why? because the units you add this month are not counted & non-bumi quota already sold out smile.gif
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Some holders of AS1M who need $ will withdraw just b4 suspension
Could b a good opportunity to top up if have luck

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Some holders of AS1M who need $ will withdraw just b4 suspension
Could b a good opportunity to top up if have luck
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Some may do, but majority won't. Why? because they would "lose-out" on the dividend. Keep the money for almost 1 year, then withdraw it without any "profit". Keep for free only doh.gif


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Y no profit?
Still earn profit for month of Sep 2013 by using the lowest balance (after withdrawal) to calculate dividend
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 11 2013, 03:52 PM)
Y no profit?
Still earn profit for month of Sep 2013 by using the lowest balance (after withdrawal) to calculate dividend
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I know you still earn some "profit" but it's kinda sucks because so near to "closing-time" aka dividend & it would be less amount.

Anyway let's people decides what they want to do with their money. If they want to withdraw near dividend time, it's their choice smile.gif We cannot interfere with it nod.gif
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Some people use the ASNB product as their retirement plan.
For eg. lets say you have xxx amount in ASB.

Every month, you go to post office to withdraw 3k for your living. This is only dividend money actually.
This is what my FIL been doing all this while.

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QUOTE(navink @ Sep 11 2013, 05:08 PM)
Some people use the ASNB product as their retirement plan.
For eg. lets say you have xxx amount in ASB.

Every month, you go to post office to withdraw 3k for your living. This is only dividend money actually.
This is what my FIL been doing all this while.
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I will withdraw too when reach retirement age later
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QUOTE(navink @ Sep 11 2013, 05:08 PM)
Some people use the ASNB product as their retirement plan.
For eg. lets say you have xxx amount in ASB.

Every month, you go to post office to withdraw 3k for your living. This is only dividend money actually.
This is what my FIL been doing all this while.
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Again PM is allowed and helpful to my serial saving. And the asst branch I think.. Said you must maintain your selipar jepun each time come here. Gud man!

My saving
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hi guys, just wanted to know is that possible to invest in ASN now? any guides? thanks.

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hi guys, just wanted to know is that possible to invest in ASN now? any guides? thanks.
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QUOTE(nelanga @ Sep 11 2013, 05:22 PM)
Again PM is allowed and helpful to my serial saving. And the asst branch I think.. Said you must maintain your selipar jepun each time come here. Gud man!

My saving
http://brunialamira.blogspot.com
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Talking about Selipar Jepun, I remember once I saw one uncle wearing one with his white pagoda t-shirt. Saw him at the bank, I tot just one "ordinary" pensioner. Suddenly when his turn came, OMG he took out one "big" sum of money for deposit. I think got 80k cash shakehead.gif No one would expect this uncle carry this much money to the bank for deposit.

So moral of the story, don't look down on those wearing selipar jepun with their pagoda t-shirt nod.gif biggrin.gif
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Yes sir u rite. smile.gif
I sure he drive big car
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QUOTE(navink @ Sep 11 2013, 05:08 PM)
Some people use the ASNB product as their retirement plan.
For eg. lets say you have xxx amount in ASB.

Every month, you go to post office to withdraw 3k for your living. This is only dividend money actually.
This is what my FIL been doing all this while.
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So lucky it is just like a savings account with high interest, for the non-bumi once withdrawn from ASNB's funds will be hard to put back in.
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QUOTE(nelanga @ Sep 11 2013, 08:30 PM)
Yes sir u rite. smile.gif
I sure he drive big car
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I'm not sure if he drive big car? hmm.gif

Talking about big car, One of my favorite Nasi Ayam seller (old uncle) drive Camry 2.4 highest spec shakehead.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 11 2013, 09:10 PM)
So lucky it is just like a savings account with high interest, for the non-bumi once withdrawn from ASNB's funds will be hard to put back in.
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True, because of this a lot of people frustrated nod.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 11 2013, 10:01 PM)
True, because of this a lot of people frustrated  nod.gif
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QUOTE(nelanga @ Sep 11 2013, 08:30 PM)
Yes sir u rite. smile.gif
I sure he drive big car
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Well, if you think only rich people drive big cars, you might be wrong..

Because in my experience as part of the a property sales team, i see people driving Kancil paying a downpayment of RM3X,XXX plus to even RM4X,XXX plus; without even touching their own EPF account 2..

And most of my customers who are driving betters cars are asking questions like ''could I full-loan?", "downpayment too heavy, client want to settle in installment"..

Recently I have spoke to one of my friend, he is driving an old Kancil, but I saw his ASNB account, he got RM50,000 something lei.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 11 2013, 10:01 PM)
True, because of this a lot of people frustrated  nod.gif
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Yape, i was like hunting for the news for additional subscriptions every day for the non-bumi..

Once withdrawn once, I feel the pain because not easy for me to put back the money into the account once withdrawn..

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QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 11 2013, 09:10 PM)
So lucky it is just like a savings account with high interest, for the non-bumi once withdrawn from ASNB's funds will be hard to put back in.
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Agreed
To avoid this from happening, just setup n implement assets allocation
Withdrawal can come from savings/fd 1st instead of ASW2020/ASM/AS1M (last resort)
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 12 2013, 08:05 AM)
Yape, i was like hunting for the news for additional subscriptions every day for the non-bumi..

Once withdrawn once, I feel the pain because not easy for me to put back the money into the account once withdrawn..

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ASNB will make announcement if there is additional new units open for subscription
Just get redy $
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 12 2013, 08:30 AM)
Agreed
To avoid this from happening, just setup n implement assets allocation
Withdrawal can come from savings/fd 1st instead of ASW2020/ASM/AS1M (last resort)
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Also because of this reason once I got the units in ASNB's fund very reluctant to let go to invest on others. Really tie legs tie hands.
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QUOTE(nelanga @ Sep 11 2013, 05:22 PM)
Again PM is allowed and helpful to my serial saving. And the asst branch I think.. Said you must maintain your selipar jepun each time come here. Gud man!

My saving
http://brunialamira.blogspot.com
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Very lucky la u bro.. when u update ur ASB savings, no one seems like commenting "why update ASB savings, etc". Just don't get it why sometimes I share info then kena taruk kaw2.. Last time people comments "Are you drunk?" before read my comments properly.

Perhaps it is becoz I'm a newbie. That is the reason why I seldom comment in here also. Wanna share knowledge pun kena taruk..

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Sorry need to ask noob question to all sifus here. For non bumi like me, what Amanah Funds shud i invest in now?
With reasonable returns. Thx. smile.gif
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QUOTE(gin&tonic @ Sep 12 2013, 08:56 AM)
Sorry need to ask noob question to all sifus here. For non bumi like me, what Amanah Funds shud i invest in now?
With reasonable returns. Thx. smile.gif
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ASN 3 and ASG. but you must understand the concept, its not like others..
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ASN 3 and ASG. but you must understand the concept, its not like others..
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ASN 3 & ASG ? ASG got so many types. I m rclxub.gif .
Where can i subscribe ( banks or post office ?
What will be your recommendations?

Soory really noob here. Trying to find a good stable risk free instrument
to make ends meet. smile.gif
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QUOTE(navink @ Sep 12 2013, 08:48 AM)
Very lucky la u bro.. when u update ur ASB savings, no one seems like commenting "why update ASB savings, etc". Just don't get it why sometimes I share info then kena taruk kaw2.. Last time people comments "Are you drunk?" before read my comments properly.

Perhaps it is becoz I'm a newbie. That is the reason why I seldom comment in here also. Wanna share knowledge pun kena taruk..
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U rite bro... 1 day i will 'kena taruk' olso.. since im olso newbie. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(gin&tonic @ Sep 12 2013, 09:51 AM)
ASN 3 & ASG ? ASG got so many types. I m  rclxub.gif .
Where can i subscribe ( banks or post office ?
What will be your recommendations?

Soory really noob here. Trying to find a good stable risk free instrument
to make ends meet. smile.gif
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those are not risk free. only low risk

risk free would be the fully subscribed ASM, ASW2020, ASD and AS1M (or ASB if you are eligibile)
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 12 2013, 10:20 AM)
those are not risk free. only low risk

risk free would be the fully subscribed ASM, ASW2020, ASD and AS1M (or ASB if you are eligibile)
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 12 2013, 08:38 AM)
ASNB will make announcement if there is additional new units open for subscription
Just get redy $
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While waiting for the announcement (which i believe is quite impossible for the fixed unit trusts), i will just continue my routine for trying luck over the counter..

Speaking about getting ready money, i am also not prepared yet.. haha...

Unable to save money lately due to previous debts from travelling and during unemployment period..

Fortunately, secure a job before i am using too much of my ASNB funds..
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Penangguhan Urus Niaga AS1M

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 12 2013, 08:02 AM)
Well, if you think only rich people drive big cars, you might be wrong..

Because in my experience as part of the a property sales team, i see people driving Kancil paying a downpayment of RM3X,XXX plus to even RM4X,XXX plus; without even touching their own EPF account 2..

And most of my customers who are driving betters cars are asking questions like ''could I full-loan?", "downpayment too heavy, client want to settle in installment"..

Recently I have spoke to one of my friend, he is driving an old Kancil, but I saw his ASNB account, he got RM50,000 something lei..  brows.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 12 2013, 11:46 AM)
I already said be patient, They would announce the Suspension date for AS1M smile.gif
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sorry for late reply.... my uni life started @@

ASG got 3. Persaraan, Pendidikan, and Kesihatan.

those 3 have no diff in term of funds, but their allocation fund is diff from each other.

Kesihatan is equity. However, Persaraan and Pendidikan is Fixed income securities and other capital market instruments. But, this i think no that important imo.....

to make the story short. ASG variable price fund. Meaning, the price for a single unit is totally different every single day. it can be lower or higher compared to the days b4. say buying.

A unit is like 1.6083. But when we buy, there is sale charge. ( 2% for ASG, 5 % for ASN 3 )

1.6083*102 = 1.6405

So when you buy 1000 MYR, you will only get 609.57 units. I hope i made it clear for the purchasing...

by the way, lucifah, yes, ASB, ASD, ASM, ASW, and AS1M is theoretically risk free, but i think practically no. There is still risk but much much much lower than ASN,ASN2,ASN3 and ASG.....

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QUOTE(navink @ Sep 12 2013, 08:48 AM)
Just don't get it why sometimes I share info then kena taruk kaw2.. Last time people comments "Are you drunk?" before read my comments properly.

Perhaps it is becoz I'm a newbie. That is the reason why I seldom comment in here also. Wanna share knowledge pun kena taruk..
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People entitle to their opinion, It's a free country (but cannot go overboard with "sensitive" issues)

Juz ignore them, they don't pay money to you nod.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 12 2013, 11:46 AM)
haha... coming pretty soon.. I am excited and hoping for the good news... rclxms.gif


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haha... coming pretty soon.. I am excited and hoping for the good news...  rclxms.gif
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haha... coming pretty soon.. I am excited and hoping for the good news...  rclxms.gif
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Must be 6.7%.
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Can try to top up too as those holders who need $ will withdraw just b4 suspension (imagine Bank close for 1 week)
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Good idea but not good for me because i just run out of cash..

Hoping to have the opportunity to top up further in future..
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 12 2013, 10:52 PM)
People entitle to their opinion, It's a free country (but cannot go overboard with "sensitive" issues)

Juz ignore them, they don't pay money to you nod.gif
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thanks bro for the support.. rclxms.gif
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thanks bro for the support..  rclxms.gif
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Skim Amanah Saham Bumiputera 2 or ASB 2 would be launched by Permodalan Nasional Berhad with an injection of 10 billion units of shares

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PM just announced new ASNB instrument : ASB2

still trying to fing more details on this fund

designed specially for those who maxed out their ASB investment

fund size is 10b
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Now I hope PNB to launch Amanah Saham Malaysia 2 for all Malaysian this year with fund size of 10Bil Units smile.gif

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Now I hope PNB to launch Amanah Saham Malaysia 2 for all Malaysian this year with fund size of 10Bil Units smile.gif
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Article in The Edge for next week
BNM may abolish ASB financing to curb personal financing


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Article in The Edge for next week
BNM may abolish ASB financing to curb personal financing
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Article in The Edge for next week
BNM may abolish ASB financing to curb personal financing
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how if abolish, is it the while fund gone zero by returning to holders?
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how if abolish, is it the while fund gone zero by returning to holders?
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he is saying asb financing loan will be abolished

not the asb fund itself wink.gif
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how if abolish, is it the while fund gone zero by returning to holders?
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ASB will not abolished.
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 14 2013, 10:33 PM)
he is saying asb financing loan will be abolished

not the asb fund itself wink.gif
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meaning no new ppl can apply for that but good for those existing one.
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meaning no new ppl can apply for that but good for those existing one.
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the ASB2 was just announced today by PM.
usually PM decision can override BNM decision, as BNM reports to MOF, and Minister of MOF is appointed by PM.
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I gotta feeling Gomen "lack of fund" thus Introducing new investment scheme (in the name of helping the "needy" community) hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 14 2013, 10:39 PM)
meaning no new ppl can apply for that but good for those existing one.
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I gotta feeling Gomen "lack of fund" thus Introducing new investment scheme (in the name of helping the "needy" community)  hmm.gif
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Funds raise will goes to KLCI (assume 70%)
KLCI will goes North
Win-win situation for all parties
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Funds raise will goes to KLCI (assume 70%)
KLCI will goes North
Win-win situation for all parties
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Good point rclxms.gif

So we can expect more "upside" on Bursa esp the 30 CI link shares thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 14 2013, 08:09 PM)
PM just announced new ASNB instrument : ASB2

still trying to fing more details on this fund

designed specially for those who maxed out their ASB investment

fund size is 10b
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Govt needs more fund for HUGE Projects ... dunno good news or bad news ?
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as long as they find a way to give the investors a 8% return, it's good news to the bumiputra

but i do feel weird as to why the need of ASB2 when ASB has never and can never be fully subsrcibed by bumiputra?

any hidden agenda?

even AS1M (bumi quota) is not yet fully subscribed


if they really want funds for HUGE projects, they'd be better open additional funds for AS1M, ASM or ASW. the non bumi will line up the banks with cash ready in hand nod.gif

i smell something fishy. but i also smell huge dividends. waiting to transfer all AS1M money into ASB2 once i get some insider info from my bankers...
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Govt needs more fund for HUGE Projects ... dunno good news or bad news ?
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Not for huge projects
To please members in anticipation of UMNO general assembly
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Not for huge projects
To please members in anticipation of UMNO general assembly
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But I do believe that cutting expenditure and finding other revenue stream will help to finance huge projects.. Why cant the gov create a certain percentage to please the UMNO general percentage rather than you know.. But cant they control the extraction rate from within itself.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 15 2013, 12:19 PM)
Not for huge projects
To please members in anticipation of UMNO general assembly
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that makes sense... hmm.gif
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asb2 is for bumi who have maxed out asb1,simple as that, i also want to park more than the limit of 200k(own fund) in asb1. This can definitely win the heart of middle class bumi like me
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Sep 15 2013, 01:09 PM)
asb2 is for bumi who have maxed out asb1,simple as that, i also want to park more than the limit of 200k(own fund) in asb1. This can definitely win the heart of middle class bumi like me
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ASB have some kind of premium "brand" among people. People look up towards ASB. I expect ASB 2 could be fully subscribe within 1-2 years (take-up rate would be even faster if banks offer ASB 2 Loans)

With this, I don't think anytime soon all those unsold Bumi units in ASW & AS1M would be sold out.

Based on my observation & some research. I managed to come with few conclusion.

1 - AS1M unsold units would be "released" to all
2 - New Amanah Saham with no racial quota
3 - Savings Sukuk with 5% pa
4 - ASM additional unit (Maybe 1 - 2bil with no racial quota)

All these are to "fund" the gomen projects, maybe for the upcoming $ 3B Mega IPO & others

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Looks like ASB2 is very timely for those who have utilized the max limit of ASB
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ASB have some kind of premium "brand" among people. People look up towards ASB. I expect ASB 2 could be fully subscribe within 1-2 years (take-up rate would be even faster if banks offer ASB 2 Loans)

With this, I don't think anytime soon all those unsold Bumi units in ASW & AS1M would be sold out.

Based on my observation & some research. I managed to come with few conclusion.

1 - AS1M unsold units would be "released" to all
2 - New Amanah Saham with no racial quota
3 - Savings Sukuk with 5% pa
4 - ASM additional unit (Maybe 1 - 2bil with no racial quota)

All these are to "fund" the gomen projects, maybe for the upcoming $ 3B Mega IPO & others
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1. very happy
2. provided is fixed pricing
3. will consider
4. right here waiting
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Sep 15 2013, 01:09 PM)
asb2 is for bumi who have maxed out asb1,simple as that, i also want to park more than the limit of 200k(own fund) in asb1. This can definitely win the heart of middle class bumi like me
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That's One of the reason for ASB2, others are for "funding" Mega Projects & Upcoming Mega IPO whistling.gif
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1. very happy
2. provided is fixed pricing
3. will consider
4. right here waiting
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IF really PNB launch new fixed price scheme, I think the same old "crap" excuses / Negative perception when AS1M launch few years back would appear again nod.gif

It's always like that.

Also one thing I realized, ASB & ASW don't list full their investment in Bursa. They would only list the top 20 only unlike ASM, ASD & AS1M hmm.gif

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 15 2013, 01:31 PM)
ASB have some kind of premium "brand" among people. People look up towards ASB. I expect ASB 2 could be fully subscribe within 1-2 years (take-up rate would be even faster if banks offer ASB 2 Loans)

With this, I don't think anytime soon all those unsold Bumi units in ASW & AS1M would be sold out.

Based on my observation & some research. I managed to come with few conclusion.

1 - AS1M unsold units would be "released" to all
2 - New Amanah Saham with no racial quota
3 - Savings Sukuk with 5% pa
4 - ASM additional unit (Maybe 1 - 2bil with no racial quota)

All these are to "fund" the gomen projects, maybe for the upcoming $ 3B Mega IPO & others
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i can say not going to happen. And my opinion giving this ASB2, and let say profiting bumi, keep in mind that ASB is not even max up or even have by every single bumi, so the profiting bumi statement is not valid, even other fund is not fully filled eg ASM, AS1M, there must be something happen inside. Eg, hidden crisis such as not enough funds to cover up OR just to "pleased" EVERY SINGLE investor heart that their management is running well aka "pill penenang hati". But we don't know, just my personal opinion.

or on the bright site, they wish to have bumi 100 % 8 PA profit, and letting go all the quota status in ASW, ASM, AS1M, so that can be said that bumi = ASB/ASB2
non bumi = ASM/AS1M/ASW2020.....
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 15 2013, 03:51 PM)
IF really PNB launch new fixed price scheme, I think the same old "crap" excuses / Negative perception when AS1M launch few years back would appear again  nod.gif

It's always like that.

Also one thing I realized, ASB & ASW don't list full their investment in Bursa. They would only list the top 20 only unlike ASM, ASD & AS1M  hmm.gif
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No, i thing the crap will not happen again unless all ppl are brainless after the same incident happen again....
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 15 2013, 03:54 PM)
i can say not going to happen. And my opinion giving this ASB2, and let say profiting bumi, keep in mind that ASB is not even max up or even have by every single bumi, so the profiting bumi statement is not valid, even other fund is not fully filled eg ASM, AS1M, there must be something happen inside. Eg, hidden crisis such as not enough funds to cover up OR just to "pleased" EVERY SINGLE investor heart that their management is running well aka "pill penenang hati". But we don't know, just my personal opinion. 

or on the bright site, they wish to have bumi 100 % 8 PA profit, and letting go all the quota status in ASW, ASM, AS1M, so that can be said that bumi = ASB/ASB2
non bumi = ASM/AS1M/ASW2020.....
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 15 2013, 03:55 PM)
No, i thing the crap will not happen again unless all ppl are brainless after the same incident happen again....
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I think ASB already very2 "big" & cannot take anymore funds. Someone told me there's a risk that 8% dividend is not sustainable in long run hmm.gif

About the "crap" thing, we cannot say. Sometimes people are irrational, follow other people advice & hear rumours from their "financial advisers" doh.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 15 2013, 03:51 PM)
IF really PNB launch new fixed price scheme, I think the same old "crap" excuses / Negative perception when AS1M launch few years back would appear again  nod.gif

It's always like that.

Also one thing I realized, ASB & ASW don't list full their investment in Bursa. They would only list the top 20 only unlike ASM, ASD & AS1M  hmm.gif
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Those who give 'crap' comments won't invest at all
Oni those who xperience d beauty of ASW2020/ASM/AS1M will invest. Some may 'Show Hand' too

ASB/ASW obtained special xemption from SC not to disclose it's full investments
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 15 2013, 04:35 PM)
Those who give 'crap' comments won't invest at all
Oni those who xperience d beauty of ASW2020/ASM/AS1M will invest. Some may 'Show Hand' too

ASB/ASW obtained special xemption from SC not to disclose it's full investments
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Yup, those who gave "crap" comments are mostly directly & indirectly effected IF new fund are launch. They the one who spread the negative rumours last time. How I know? because my auntie told me her "financial adviser" told her not invest doh.gif

Oh like that. No wonder when I see the Annual Report, they don't have full list like ASM, ASD & AS1M.
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ASB got 7.82 million unit holders which hold a total of 110.2 billion units as 19 December 2012.

ASB has recorded a gross income of RM8.54 billion. Dividend income from investee companies contributed RM4.80 billion or 56.21% of the gross income. Meanwhile, profit from the sale of shares contributed RM2.68 billion or 31.38% and the balance of RM1.06 billion or 12.41% derived from other incomes.

http://www.asnb.com.my/english/news/asb_distribution2012.htm



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Units in circulation for ASB is 121.57 bil units @ 31/5/2013
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 15 2013, 05:46 PM)
Units in circulation for ASB is 121.57 bil units @ 31/5/2013
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It's getting bigger by the month. Just 5mth already increased by 11.37bil units (from 110.2 billion as 19 Dec 2012) shakehead.gif

This year end sure reach 140Bil units nod.gif shocking.gif
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Statistics for ASB
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16/6/2005 - 42.0 bil
31/5/2006 - 48.62 bil
31/5/2007 - 53.52 bil
31/5/2008 - 60.02 bil
29/5/2009 - 67.12 bil
31/5/2010 - 78.88 bil
31/5/2011 - 91.87 bil
31/5/2012 - 103.62 bil
31/5/2013 - 121.57 bil
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 15 2013, 06:15 PM)
Statistics for ASB
Info xtract from Prospectus
16/6/2005 - 42.0 bil
31/5/2006 - 48.62 bil
31/5/2007 - 53.52 bil
31/5/2008 - 60.02 bil
29/5/2009 - 67.12 bil
31/5/2010 - 78.88 bil
31/5/2011 - 91.87 bil
31/5/2012 - 103.62 bil
31/5/2013 - 121.57 bil
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2012 - 2013 period is the fastest shakehead.gif
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Anyone knows when ASB2 is open to public? Will be on leave next Tuesday and Wednesday. Shud be excellent time to open it..
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ASB2 is created to make those already rich (>RM200k ready), even richer smile.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 15 2013, 06:15 PM)
Statistics for ASB
Info xtract from Prospectus
16/6/2005 - 42.0 bil
31/5/2006 - 48.62 bil
31/5/2007 - 53.52 bil
31/5/2008 - 60.02 bil
29/5/2009 - 67.12 bil
31/5/2010 - 78.88 bil
31/5/2011 - 91.87 bil
31/5/2012 - 103.62 bil
31/5/2013 - 121.57 bil
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The biggest private mutual fund in Malaysia is Public Mutual Fund, the total 50 funds that managed by PM is even less than RM50bil, which is < 50% of ASB.
Not to talk about other funds that managed by PNB such as ASW/ASM....and ASG/ASN1/ASN2/....
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Anyone knows when ASB2 is open to public? Will be on leave next Tuesday and Wednesday. Shud be excellent time to open it..
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Enjoy your annual leave, I don't think it will be launched within a week.
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ASB2 is created to make those already rich (>RM200k ready), even richer smile.gif
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For ASB2, since the fund size only 10bil, I believe PNB would put a cap on individual max limit.
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Enjoy your annual leave, I don't think it will be launched within a week.
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For ASB2, since the fund size only 10bil, I believe PNB would put a cap on individual max limit.
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even if there's no cap, i don't think anyone would dump all the money inside since it has yet to show its returns

i am skeptical. the ASB2 might only share the name with ASB, but the returns maybe in the range of AS1M, ASW and ASM. if that is the case, i'd rather stick with these 3 funds which have proven record over the years

maybe will advise my client to dump 50k and see how it goes from there. tomorrow is a holiday. tuesday maybe some bankers will gather information. maybe by friday i will go and have coffee with them and seek their verdicts
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Damn..  biggrin.gif
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ASB2 is created to make those already rich (>RM200k ready), even richer smile.gif
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A total of 612,875 holders hold more than 50,001 units & above in ASB @ 31/12/2012
Most likely this group of holders will subscribe to ASB2
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 15 2013, 10:50 PM)
even if there's no cap, i don't think anyone would dump all the money inside since it has yet to show its returns

i am skeptical. the ASB2 might only share the name with ASB, but the returns maybe in the range of AS1M, ASW and ASM. if that is the case, i'd rather stick with these 3 funds which have proven record over the years

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Correct also what you said. Who knows the return maybe like ASD hmm.gif

But this is ASB2 launch by PM Najib, I think dividend would be Above those 3 fund but lower than ASB hmm.gif
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Correct also what you said. Who knows the return maybe like ASD  hmm.gif

But this is ASB2 launch by PM Najib, I think dividend would be Above those 3 fund but lower than ASB  hmm.gif
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Amanah Hartanah Bumpiutra (AHB) is also launched by PM. the dividend is about 6.3% only

and worse, AHB's distributed dividend is not re-invested. instead, they place it in your personal account. so unless you transfer the money manually, you won't see the money grow at all.
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The biggest private mutual fund in Malaysia is Public Mutual Fund, the total 50 funds that managed by PM is even less than RM50bil, which is < 50% of ASB.
Not to talk about other funds that managed by PNB such as ASW/ASM....and ASG/ASN1/ASN2/....
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PM is variable pricing -v- ASB is fixed pricing
If compare variable pricing alone, PM is d leader
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Amanah Hartanah Bumpiutra (AHB) is also launched by PM. the dividend is about 6.3% only

and worse, AHB's distributed dividend is not re-invested. instead, they place it in your personal account. so unless you transfer the money manually, you won't see the money grow at all.
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If m not wrong, AHB is similar to REIT
There is a limit on how much REIT can earn as compared to equities
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If m not wrong, AHB is similar to REIT
There is a limit on how much REIT can earn as compared to equities
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they are somewhat related. it is managed by Maybank. not a PNB/ASNB product. but gives very good return if compared to FD's
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PM is variable pricing -v- ASB is fixed pricing
If compare variable pricing alone, PM is d leader
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Amanah Hartanah Bumpiutra (AHB) is also launched by PM. the dividend is about 6.3% only

and worse, AHB's distributed dividend is not re-invested. instead, they place it in your personal account. so unless you transfer the money manually, you won't see the money grow at all.
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I cannot comment about AHB. I don't have the Annual Report. Google about it also no use doh.gif

if not reinvestment, then the money won't grow thus no use investing in it

But ASB & others fund always reinvested, so no worries about it. The only worries is the dividend rate nod.gif


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I cannot comment about AHB. I don't have the Annual Report. Google about it also no use  doh.gif

if not reinvestment, then the money won't grow thus no use investing in it

But ASB & others fund always reinvested, so no worries about it.  The only worries is the dividend rate  nod.gif
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ASW used to issue dividends with cheques. only recently, it is automatically re-invested.
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if not reinvestment, then the money won't grow thus no use investing in it

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I beg to differ
Both AHB n other ASNB fixed pricing products gave reasonable dividend rates
The oni difference is whether the returns is compounded or not
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Recently? I thought already 6 years they do reinvestment  hmm.gif
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I beg to differ
Both AHB n other ASNB fixed pricing products gave reasonable dividend rates
The oni difference is whether the returns is compounded or not
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I've no problem with the dividend rate. Anything above 6% is good.

What I mean was that if got reinvestment better, because the money would "grow" automatically. Don't need to think much.

If the money return to us, we need to think where to "dump" the money & make it grow bigger.
Lucifah was saying, need to manually do reinvestment by transferring the money from your personal bank account to AHB.
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well, it was launched in 1996. for 10 yrs, cheques were issued. 6 yrs ago is quite recent to me  smile.gif
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I've no problem with the dividend rate.  Anything above 6% is good.

What I mean was that if got reinvestment better, because the money would "grow" automatically. Don't need to think much.

If the money return to us, we need to think where to "dump" the money & make it grow bigger.
Lucifah was saying, need to manually do reinvestment by transferring the money from your personal bank account to AHB.
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At least AHB can b compounded (later) if perform manually

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At least AHB can b compounded (later) if perform manually
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the dividend is paid bi-annually

it's a hassle to maintain this fund, so i skipped this one. actually, i tried it with 100k investement as the maybank manager promoted it to me. left it for about 2 yrs before i remember updating it. all dividends are parked in savings account, which yielded me only like 0.5% interest.
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the dividend is paid bi-annually

it's a hassle to maintain this fund, so i skipped this one. actually, i tried it with 100k investement as the maybank manager promoted it to me. left it for about 2 yrs before i remember updating it. all dividends are parked in savings account, which yielded me only like 0.5% interest.
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Do they post the annual report online?

Searching in Maybank website about this fund, I still cannot understand it rclxub.gif

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From my records, dividend via ASW2020 was re-invested from FYE 31/8/2005 onwards
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if 7 years didnt update my book, will my account will be terminated? i think i got read about this somewhere but need more confirmation abt this
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if 7 years didnt update my book, will my account will be terminated? i think i got read about this somewhere but need more confirmation abt this
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1st of all, did u receive annual Penyata Pengagihan Pendapatan from ASNB stating baki units selepas pelaburan semula?
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1st of all, did u receive annual Penyata Pengagihan Pendapatan from ASNB stating baki units selepas pelaburan semula?
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im not sure what are you trying to say haha but i think i dont have it
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if 7 years didnt update my book, will my account will be terminated? i think i got read about this somewhere but need more confirmation abt this
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I lost my book for 10 years and last year I re-issued it. There were like few hundreds in it and I got dividend for 10 years. Means the account and balance is still there.
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im not sure what are you trying to say haha but i think i dont have it
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what he trying to say is that every year there's annual statement from PNB stating your dividend amount & total units after dividend. They would send it to your registered address when you first open your amanah saham nod.gif
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im not sure what are you trying to say haha but i think i dont have it
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I lost my book for 10 years and last year I re-issued it. There were like few hundreds in it and I got dividend for 10 years. Means the account and balance is still there.
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Yup, The money will still be there

ASNB account not like Banks account nod.gif
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what he trying to say is that every year there's annual statement from PNB stating your dividend amount & total units after dividend. They would send it to your registered address when you first open your amanah saham  nod.gif
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Y dun u update yo passbook dis week at ASNB/PM/Banks
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ooh that one. hmmm i didnt receive it at all but somehow my parents got it for their own account hmmm
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ooh that one. hmmm i didnt receive it at all but somehow my parents got it for their own account hmmm
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I think you better update your passbook & also need to update your address. I think the statement went to your previous address hmm.gif

You better do faster because there's possibility those staying at your old address would know your Amanah saham Balance & total dividend (if they "opened" your letter)
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if 7 years didnt update my book, will my account will be terminated? i think i got read about this somewhere but need more confirmation abt this
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ASNB's funds are mutual fund with passbook, many has mixed up the saving passbook.
For saving accounts, u need to activate it every now and then, so that it won't turn into dormant account. But not the case for mutual funds.
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ASB have some kind of premium "brand" among people. People look up towards ASB. I expect ASB 2 could be fully subscribe within 1-2 years (take-up rate would be even faster if banks offer ASB 2 Loans)

With this, I don't think anytime soon all those unsold Bumi units in ASW & AS1M would be sold out.

Based on my observation & some research. I managed to come with few conclusion.

1 - AS1M unsold units would be "released" to all
2 - New Amanah Saham with no racial quota
3 - Savings Sukuk with 5% pa
4 - ASM additional unit (Maybe 1 - 2bil with no racial quota)

All these are to "fund" the gomen projects, maybe for the upcoming $ 3B Mega IPO & others
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Succesfully transfer a few thousand from EPF Account 1 to AS1M...based from the conversation with the officer, ASNB have locked a few million for the scheme(bumi only as non bumi quota also full)...

next transfer would be in december 2013, have to be quick..next year would be tough as EPF will raise the Basic Savings Amount wef 1 jan 2014
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Succesfully transfer a  few thousand from EPF Account 1 to AS1M...based from the conversation with the officer, ASNB have locked a few million for the scheme(bumi only as non bumi quota also full)...

next transfer would be in december 2013, have to be quick..next year would be tough as EPF will raise the Basic Savings Amount wef 1 jan 2014
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Congrat on the successful transfer
I have done simple calculation for EPF n AS1M
The average past 3 yrs return for EPF:AS1M is 5.98%:6.49%
The diff is 0.51%pa
For every RM10k investments, u will get additional RM51pa or RM4.25pm
Mind to share wat makes u decide to transfer from EPF to AS1M?


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Congrat on the successful transfer
I have done simple calculation for EPF n AS1M
The average past 3 yrs return for EPF:AS1M is 5.98%:6.49%
The diff is 0.51%pa
For every RM10k investments, u will get additional RM51pa or RM4.25pm
Mind to share wat makes u decide to transfer from EPF to AS1M?
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exactly why i didn't opt the EPF withdrawal scheme. the hassle of filling in the forms and getting the necessary approvals put me off.
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QUOTE(titanic_crash @ Sep 16 2013, 08:53 PM)
Succesfully transfer a  few thousand from EPF Account 1 to AS1M...based from the conversation with the officer, ASNB have locked a few million for the scheme(bumi only as non bumi quota also full)...

next transfer would be in december 2013, have to be quick..next year would be tough as EPF will raise the Basic Savings Amount wef 1 jan 2014
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congrats for the transfer rclxms.gif

So ASNB have locked few million for the scheme for Dec 2013, then next year the probability of "opening" the unsold units are high. The raised balance for EPF would have greater effect. Less people would qualified for the investment purpose.

I'm just assuming that would happen. Final Decision on PNB nod.gif (Just hope some good news for all smile.gif )
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 16 2013, 09:26 PM)
Congrat on the successful transfer
I have done simple calculation for EPF n AS1M
The average past 3 yrs return for EPF:AS1M is 5.98%:6.49%
The diff is 0.51%pa
For every RM10k investments, u will get additional RM51pa or RM4.25pm
Mind to share wat makes u decide to transfer from EPF to AS1M?
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If the person is qualified why not take the opportunity.

The small difference of 0.51%pa also money. Nowadays every ringgit also counted. Remember the classic Malay proverb - "sikit sikit lama lama jadi bukit" nod.gif


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ASB loan abolishment was the suggestion from BNM to cut the individual personal loan exposure
the ASB2 was just announced today by PM.
usually PM decision can override BNM decision, as BNM reports to MOF, and Minister of MOF is appointed by PM.
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Another disappointment for the non-bumi again..

A bonus for the bumi, but frustration for the non-bumi..

Not fair... cry.gif



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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 16 2013, 11:42 PM)
If the person is qualified why not take the opportunity.

The small difference of 0.51%pa also money.  Nowadays every ringgit also counted.  Remember the classic Malay proverb - "sikit sikit lama lama jadi bukit" nod.gif
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epf return is quite unstable, if you look at the historical return rate from 2000 to 2012. it can fluctuate to as low as 4.25%.

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epf return is quite unstable, if you look at the historical return rate from 2000 to 2012. it can fluctuate to as low as 4.25%.
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This I agree nod.gif

ASNB fund have more stable dividend (fixed price fund) with min 6%pa rclxms.gif
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Another disappointment for the non-bumi again..

A bonus for the bumi, but frustration for the non-bumi..

Not fair...  cry.gif
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Congrat on the successful transfer
I have done simple calculation for EPF n AS1M
The average past 3 yrs return for EPF:AS1M is 5.98%:6.49%
The diff is 0.51%pa
For every RM10k investments, u will get additional RM51pa or RM4.25pm
Mind to share wat makes u decide to transfer from EPF to AS1M?
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simple..AS1M div return more stable..
it's 0% charge...no charge at all...
people here complaining of the difficulty to invest in ASNB product...after seeing this, maybe the bumi quota will be full sooner rather than later...

by doing this, i will have my own cash in AS1M when i reach 55...

{For every RM10k investments, u will get additional RM51pa or RM4.25pm}

So, i will get additional rm200... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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exactly why i didn't opt the EPF withdrawal scheme. the hassle of filling in the forms and getting the necessary approvals put me off.
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i don't think so..no hassle at all..10 minutes can be done, free parking
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i don't think so..no hassle at all..10 minutes can be done, free parking
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IINM, u can only invest a certain amount from Acc 2. not the total amount of acc2.


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u got good luck

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IINM, u can only invest a certain amount from Acc 2. not the total amount of acc2.
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simple..AS1M div return more stable..
it's 0% charge...no charge at all...
people here complaining of the difficulty to invest in ASNB product...after seeing this, maybe the bumi quota will be full sooner rather than later...

by doing this, i will have my own cash in AS1M when i reach 55...

{For every RM10k investments, u will get additional RM51pa or RM4.25pm}

So, i will get additional rm200... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Good for you rclxms.gif

if only others bumi think like you smile.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 17 2013, 03:30 PM)
Good for you  rclxms.gif

if only others bumi think like you  smile.gif
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too much hassle.

based on this info http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/documents/10..._2013__Eng_.pdf

i'd only be able to invest rm 10 - 12k.

i have small EPF savings.
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theoretically u can invest almost all of your account 1 less minimum mandatory saving. Bear in mind though the smallest amount of investment is MYR1000, and you can only take 20% (each time) out of the amount which exceed this mandatory savings.

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 17 2013, 03:38 PM)
too much hassle.

based on this info http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/documents/10..._2013__Eng_.pdf

i'd only be able to invest rm 10 - 12k.

i have small EPF savings.
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Another disappointment for the non-bumi again..

A bonus for the bumi, but frustration for the non-bumi..

Not fair...  cry.gif
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Look on the bright side. This unfair practice will push us to be more financial savvy instead of being spoonfed. It forces us to look for alternative investment and this learning experience is invaluable. This happen in the biz environment too where we still thrive despite of the many obstacles. Same thing happens in the Property market where we dont enjoy any discount and yet we invested in properties which has shot up in price and these properties can be traded without restriction because they are non-bumi lots. We thrive on frustration, disappointment, deprivation, discrimination and suppression and grow stronger.
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QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 17 2013, 04:06 PM)
Look on the bright side. This unfair practice will push us  to be more financial savvy instead of being spoonfed. It forces us to look for alternative investment and this learning experience is invaluable. This happen in the biz environment too where we still thrive despite of the many obstacles. Same thing happens in the Property market where we dont enjoy any discount and yet we invested in properties which has shot up in price and these properties can be traded without restriction because they are non-bumi lots. We thrive on frustration, disappointment, deprivation, discrimination and suppression and grow stronger.
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Another disappointment for the non-bumi again..

A bonus for the bumi, but frustration for the non-bumi..

Not fair...  cry.gif
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simple..AS1M div return more stable..
it's 0% charge...no charge at all...
people here complaining of the difficulty to invest in ASNB product...after seeing this, maybe the bumi quota will be full sooner rather than later...

by doing this, i will have my own cash in AS1M when i reach 55...

{For every RM10k investments, u will get additional RM51pa or RM4.25pm}

So, i will get additional rm200... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Oic.....
Anyway, enjoy d returns from your investment decision
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 17 2013, 03:38 PM)
too much hassle.

based on this info http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/documents/10..._2013__Eng_.pdf

i'd only be able to invest rm 10 - 12k.

i have small EPF savings.
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QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 17 2013, 04:06 PM)
Look on the bright side. This unfair practice will push us  to be more financial savvy instead of being spoonfed. It forces us to look for alternative investment and this learning experience is invaluable. This happen in the biz environment too where we still thrive despite of the many obstacles. Same thing happens in the Property market where we dont enjoy any discount and yet we invested in properties which has shot up in price and these properties can be traded without restriction because they are non-bumi lots. We thrive on frustration, disappointment, deprivation, discrimination and suppression and grow stronger.
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Agreed. However, this doesn't apply to the poor and the needy non-bumis. Really pity them..... sad.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Sep 17 2013, 07:47 PM)
Agreed. However, this doesn't apply to the poor and the needy non-bumis. Really pity them.....  sad.gif
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Agreed. However, this doesn't apply to the poor and the needy non-bumis. Really pity them.....  sad.gif
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AS1M = 6.70% announced if i heard correctly
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from btimes:
Amanah Saham Nasional Bhd which is a wholly owned subsidiary of Permodalan Nasional Bhd (PNB) has announced a 6.7 sen income distribution for its Amanah Saham 1Malaysia for financial year ended September 2013.

The state-owned fund manager paid an income distribution of 6.6 sen last year.

PNB chairman Tun Ahmad Sarji Abdul Hamid said the 6.7 sen is the highest paid by the country's largest fund manager since its introduction four years ago.

"The income distribution involves a payout of RM593.0 million which is a 30 per cent increase compared to RM453.03 million last year to 365,355 unitholders which collectively own 9.2 billion units," Ahmad Sarji told reporters at its headquarters in Kuala Lumpur yesterday while unveiling the income distribution results.

Read more: PNB declares 6.7 sen dividend for AS1M http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...l#ixzz2fDfTAxt4
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No surprise on dividend rate from AS1M
6.70% is within street estimates

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From Bernama which is a bit detail

http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v7/bu/ne...s.php?id=978462
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I've been reading the responses on the ASB2 thingy and I observe a rather interesting anomaly (I guess)...

Everyone seems to trust PNB when it comes to fixed priced funds yet the same is not extended to its variable priced products. Why is public mutual still the de facto for variable priced funds? Has anyone really studied if among PM's numerous funds (I think there's at least 50 if not more tongue.gif) what's the % of returns is like?

The same organization, the same infrastructure, probably the same fund management or investment office operations and yet the respect for PNB's variable priced products is no where near the "trust" that people have for its fixed priced funds.

It's like believing that BMW's 5 series models do well compared to its 7 series model.

Just my weird observation...
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Sep 18 2013, 03:30 PM)
I've been reading the responses on the ASB2 thingy and I observe a rather interesting anomaly (I guess)...

Everyone seems to trust PNB when it comes to fixed priced funds yet the same is not extended to its variable priced products. Why is public mutual still the de facto for variable priced funds? Has anyone really studied if among PM's numerous funds (I think there's at least 50 if not more tongue.gif) what's the % of returns is like?

The same organization, the same infrastructure, probably the same fund management or investment office operations and yet the respect for PNB's variable priced products is no where near the "trust" that people have for its fixed priced funds.

It's like believing that BMW's 5 series models do well compared to its 7 series model.

Just my weird observation...
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for non-bumi, there is not much option since all fixed price funds are fully subscribed


for bumi, who has yet to maximise their ASB, ASW, ASM, AS1M, ASD : it's more like peer influence

"eveyrbody is doing it, so why aren't we?" is what they keep telling me when they promote their products

i handle quite a large sum of money in ASNB and has yet to reach any ceilings / limits yet that i need to subscribe to varibale price fund, be it from ASNB or PM
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 18 2013, 03:39 PM)
for non-bumi, there is not much option since all fixed price funds are fully subscribed
for bumi, who has yet to maximise their ASB, ASW, ASM, AS1M, ASD : it's more like peer influence

"eveyrbody is doing it, so why aren't we?" is what they keep telling me when they promote their products

i handle quite a large sum of money in ASNB and has yet to reach any ceilings / limits yet that i need to subscribe to varibale price fund, be it from ASNB or PM
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PM is good overall
Some of their Funds is closed for subscription

http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...pnM%3d&tabid=87
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news regarding asb2


http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Sep 18 2013, 05:11 PM)
it never occurs to me that ASB2 can be a variable price product.... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Sep 18 2013, 05:11 PM)
I'll be very very surprise if this comes out as a variable price fund.

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Sep 18 2013, 06:15 PM)
I'll be very very surprise if this comes out as a variable price fund.
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Sep 18 2013, 06:15 PM)
I'll be very very surprise if this comes out as a variable price fund.
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ASN and ASN2 which cater for Bumi has very poor response, don't think ASB 2 will be variable price, defeat the purpose.
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Statistics on Units in Circulation
ASN
16/6/2005 - 1.9 bil
31/5/2013 - 1.54 bil
ASN2
16/6/2005 - 340.9 mil
31/5/2013 - 178.04 mil
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QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 18 2013, 01:31 PM)
from btimes:
Amanah Saham Nasional Bhd which is a wholly owned subsidiary of Permodalan Nasional Bhd (PNB) has announced a 6.7 sen income distribution for its Amanah Saham 1Malaysia for financial year ended September 2013.

The state-owned fund manager paid an income distribution of 6.6 sen last year.

PNB chairman Tun Ahmad Sarji Abdul Hamid said the 6.7 sen is the highest paid by the country's largest fund manager since its introduction four years ago.

"The income distribution involves a payout of RM593.0 million which is a 30 per cent increase compared to RM453.03 million last year to 365,355 unitholders which collectively own 9.2 billion units," Ahmad Sarji told reporters at its headquarters in Kuala Lumpur yesterday while unveiling the income distribution results.

Read more: PNB declares 6.7 sen dividend for AS1M http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...l#ixzz2fDfTAxt4
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As expected by the people rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Sep 18 2013, 05:11 PM)
the previous research conducted by PNB already shown fixed price fund are more "popular" than the variable price one & they still "looking" for suitable structure doh.gif

Ordinary people also know that the fixed price fund are very2 popular to all Malaysian.

Just do the ASB2 in Fixed price like ASB, Simple formula for success smile.gif
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 18 2013, 08:59 PM)
Statistics on Units in Circulation
ASN
16/6/2005 - 1.9 bil
31/5/2013 - 1.54 bil
ASN2
16/6/2005 - 340.9 mil
31/5/2013 - 178.04 mil
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hahahahah, looks like more people withdraw their money than deposit

Already confirm the Variable price fund are not popular & the Units in Circulation are decreasing y-o-y nod.gif
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Saw this in AEON Bandar Perda Bukit Mertajam. Seems legit?

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QUOTE(MGM @ Sep 17 2013, 05:06 PM)
Look on the bright side. This unfair practice will push us  to be more financial savvy instead of being spoonfed. It forces us to look for alternative investment and this learning experience is invaluable. This happen in the biz environment too where we still thrive despite of the many obstacles. Same thing happens in the Property market where we dont enjoy any discount and yet we invested in properties which has shot up in price and these properties can be traded without restriction because they are non-bumi lots. We thrive on frustration, disappointment, deprivation, discrimination and suppression and grow stronger.
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+1000 bro....me as bumi feel malu n proud to have non bumi ppl like u with very strong mentality thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Sep 18 2013, 09:26 PM)
Saw this in AEON Bandar Perda Bukit Mertajam. Seems legit?

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300 per day maybe.. then possible.. biggrin.gif
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Hi, Im new to this. How to buy Amanah Saham?

I thought it was offered to BUMI only.

The return is way better than FD and savings plan.

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QUOTE(ck23 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:48 AM)
Hi, Im new to this.  How to buy Amanah Saham?

I thought it was offered to BUMI only.

The return is way better than FD and savings plan.
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Read the 1st page smile.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 19 2013, 10:58 AM)
Read the 1st page  smile.gif
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Where to buy and how to buy?

First page is too messy.
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Where to buy and how to buy?

First page is too messy.
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