agree on this. nth much different for me between stock android and TW UI. but on Sense, i'm quite confused on it when i play with my fren HTC One. about non-smoothness/laggy, i muz say i never came across this on my Note 2, or juz my eyes aint superman enough to detect.

In the end, its a rectangular with curve corner device to communicate with other ppl......

This post has been edited by sai86: Sep 10 2013, 01:53 PM

touchwiz/ senseui anot is not up to us to decide. its the manufacturer's choice to have their own software input into the phone.

I cannot brain all your logics.

Lets take S3 for example. 1GB ram. Is ALL the 1GB ram being occupied by Touch Wiz? a mere fraction of it. Increasing ram has nothing to do with the smoothness of touchwiz. Its the programming of the UI itself. The program must be optimised to the hardware, checked for memory leaks and etc.

Likewise, 3GB ram one should not expect "omg super smooth UI for sure". It may or may not be smoother, but i'd bet my bottom dollar it has nothing to do with the amount of ram it has for any devices 1GB ram and above.

more ram does not equals smooth UI.

want smooth UI, either open its framework, find out whats wrong or tweak it yourself, or get a diff UI Launcher where the developer is actively tweaking it.

(which is why custom roms tend to be smoother, it is tweaked, based on what the chef thinks would improve performance. do u get magically extra ram when u flash a custom rom?)

Compared to other OSes, its easy for those OS to not lag when all you have are just rows of icons. Hard to go wrong.

Its that simple.

This post has been edited by Baronic: Sep 10 2013, 01:55 PM

I swear to god, every time samsung launches a new flagship device, we go over this dejavu over and over again.

not up to use to decide?

we all buy the phone to use. manufacture produce the phone for us to use, NOT FOR MANUFACTURE THEMSELF TO USE

haha, that's why when people say they hate TW, I dun get it. It look the same to me.

Anyway, lag means when you touch the phone, it does not response like rocket. Quite easy to detect. No need good eye.

Nothing wrong on it, means Samsung not only sell hardware but software as well, Samsung give more features, off course need more RAM.


This is great news in-fact.


You don't get the point here.

Samsung is well in optimization, Samsung give more features, in common sense, more features sure need more RAM to utilize it since those new useful features is run in background all time.

You can't compare with others manufacture, as no any single manufacture as Samsung study on human needs and making the phone smarter and smarter from time to time.

Thus to compensate with more features, extra RAM is necessary.

whatever la.. im tired of going through all this again.. since your mind is just samsung hardware.

then lets hope samsung take over the world

bro your just one among the 6-7 billion people living in this world~! lmao...

so the latest sales figure for note line of phone is 28million devices, if you can buy 10 million note phone's probably samsung will start listening to YOU and "NOT MANUFACTURE FOR THEMSELVES TO USE"

This post has been edited by h11g: Sep 10 2013, 01:57 PM

typical way of thinking.

Just leave the troll alone, we have already discussed about this os and smoothness issue pages ago, and he comes barging in asking us the same damn thing

sometimes it's fun to entertain troll also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjv8dFA5Sts

This post has been edited by owentan328: Sep 10 2013, 01:58 PM

You are wrong on this. I talk good when things good.

I bash S4 previously also as it is not good, the lagginess is obvious there, same as my previous ex ex phone - S III, all due to Samsung use too little RAM to utilize it. Both S III and S4 is some sort like experiment already.

But Samsung solved it when releasing Note II, now same Note III utilize 3GB RAM - I don't see any reason lagging, not smooth issue will occur on it.

I am current Sony owner now.

HTC phone is kind of same as Sony, they is just standard features from Android with custom skin, thus both HTC and Sony phone does not required as much RAM as Samsung need.

As for iPhone wise, iPhone is the less features phone, if iPhone cannot run smooth, Apple can close shop already.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Sep 10 2013, 02:03 PM

With this statement... I can not hold it anymore... haa haa haa haaa... better you use Nokia Torchlight lerrrr... Look like ifag fanboy statement when Iphone dont have anything to offer right now..

aiyo he want smoothness and he tot ram=smooth, its true to an extent but ram is for multitasking. Our smoothness and the smoothness he expects is different you see.

iphone smoothness is the transition smoothness but when loading it takes time, while in our case our smoothness refers to how fast the responsiveness of the phone.

anyways all we know is that android offers a lot of flexibility and features at the cost of an occasional lag, i can live with it, 300ms not gonna kill me, but for others that slight occasional lag will lead them to their grave, heck is ur money u can always choose another os nobody stopping you.

if u guys wanna discuss UI, make sure the UI framework, hardware the UI is being used on is the same to compare accurately.

your TW UI and his TW UI can be different if the framework has been tweaked etc.

so unless you guys are knowledgeable enough to discuss it, skip this topic

yes, exactly, i dun buy my device based on hardware alone but its features. What the device can do, not what the device is made of. Smoothness of UI is nothing if the device cannot help us much in daily life coz i dun just flip here flip there just to enjoy the smooth UI.

I want the convenience to write something down immediately during a call (or whenever) when there is no pen and paper around me. I want the flexibility of multi-windows when i can do multiple tasks at the same time. I want the screen to be bigger so that my aging eyes can see clearer. I want to be able to install different custom ROM (with different themes and features) whenever i am bored with the existing one.

Yes, i do want the smoothness of UI but it is not my priority, as long as it is as smooth as my current Note II.

Not to be brunt but the only nitpicking iPhone can do now is the "smoothness" of UI (if you insist) and the more content in their App Store/iTunes. oh.. and also the many accessories available for Apple devices.

Sorry, not a droidfrag, just stating the fact. I just bought a MBA 2013 last month - enjoying the "smoothness UI" of MBA now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0UW-DmPJ-k

More RAM actually affected the overall smoothness.

S III lagging main issue due to it not enough RAM, and keep closing background task to let the phone still work in proper, and badly it can even close the main thing - touchwiz launcher.

When RAM is too little to handle everything, how you tweak also useless. Those custom ROM can run more proper as basically most is trim down the whole ROM thus less things run in background, this in-fact is not the real solution. If buy a phone, I want it fully utilize whatever given by the manufacturer, not a trim down edition.

Thus, adding more RAM in-fact is the better way.


As for iOS, that is different case, iOS is as dummy as it can for me, and nothing really real multi-tasking and no much background running task. So iOS no need high performance processor or a lot of RAM to utilize.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Sep 10 2013, 02:13 PM