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 Samsung Galaxy Note III - Official V1, 3rd Gen of the original Phablet !!

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post Sep 10 2013, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(un_id @ Sep 10 2013, 01:08 PM)
of course it is, because its the latest flagship anyway, what the point to be the latest if not the best.. the only question is just for how long it will be on the throne? for this year, yes, it might be, because afaik there is no more unannounced incoming device for this year… but towards the end of this year, be ready for next year flagships rumours.. its never ending contest.. you know why i'm excited to see Alcatel One Touch Hero? its not about how powerful is the processor, but i'm glad to see more functionality coming for smartphone when manufacturer starts to think out of the box and making more hybrids.. thats what i really want to see, not just increase in number of processor cores and RAM.. I think we already come to a point that we have above sufficient processing power on our smartphones, but whats next?
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Z1, Ultra Z, LG G2, all this flagship but its not the latest with 3GB RAM. Why? Samsung monopolize all 3GB in the market? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(oldKyoo @ Sep 10 2013, 01:09 PM)
Not quite, that phone is highly customised, even with its architecture cores and their sole purpose. Almost to the extent of it being the iPhone of Android.
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but its still using the same Android right? Prioritization change for Android OS in MotoX? ohmy.gif
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:13 PM

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whats the point of having 3 GB of RAM when samsung cant even get the smoothness of its UI right .

fail
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:13 PM

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Not sure whether Note3 will be getting TriangleAway support or not, as S3 I9500 still haven't receive one yet.
chainfire comment regarding this issue

http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/118/Trian...way_vs_Samsung/
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:14 PM

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MediaTek was the first with true 8 core iinm. Launched last month but not sure of availability.

Mutiprocessing is both os and program working together. Apart from some huge mpp servers in research, military and academia, commercial apps aren't all that great at multiprocessing. Adobe took a few versions to get their stuff mp enabled and so did the 3d software guys.

Os mp awareness with single threaded programs will still suck. I shall not name one example from a very large co.

This post has been edited by joytest: Sep 10 2013, 01:18 PM
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Sep 10 2013, 01:11 PM)
but its still using the same Android right? Prioritization change for Android OS in MotoX?  ohmy.gif
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Yes it is using android, but it requires much more than just slapping a powerful soc onto a flagship device, something neither HTC or Samsung has done.

That said, I do agree with you that that lag can be done away with a sheer amount of dedication, it just requires much more effort and we all know effort = higher costs.
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(owentan328 @ Sep 10 2013, 01:13 PM)
whats the point of having 3 GB of RAM when samsung cant even get the smoothness of its UI right .

fail
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How you know the UI not smooth? Maybe production Note 3 will be smooth? laugh.gif
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(owentan328 @ Sep 10 2013, 01:13 PM)
whats the point of having 3 GB of RAM when samsung cant even get the smoothness of its UI right .

fail
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(owentan328 @ Sep 10 2013, 01:13 PM)
whats the point of having 3 GB of RAM when samsung cant even get the smoothness of its UI right .

fail
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First off the note 3 is the first phone with 3gb and it isn't even available yet so how can you comment about the ui?

300ms isn't going to kill you is it?
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(oldKyoo @ Sep 10 2013, 01:14 PM)
Yes it is using android, but it requires much more than just slapping a powerful soc onto a flagship device, something neither HTC or Samsung has done.

That said, I do agree with you that that lag can be done away with a sheer amount of dedication, it just requires much more effort and we all know effort = higher costs.
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Well, we have the hardware = 8 core
Now we just need the support from OS = Google rclxms.gif (I'm sure they have headcount to do this better) drool.gif
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(destEX @ Sep 10 2013, 01:16 PM)
ifag spotted, come in bash pointlessly then run
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is not bashing... its the truth
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Sep 10 2013, 01:17 PM)
First off the note 3 is the first phone with 3gb and it isn't even available yet so how can you comment about the ui?

300ms isn't going to kill you is it?
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judging by the current s4 touchwiz UI.. that said, if note 3 uses the same UI as the s4. then its the same thing. correct me if im wrong . thanks
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:21 PM

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Leave the troll alone. Let the product arrive and test it. If it lags it lags. If not they will bash the faux leather.

Still, screw Samsung if it does lag.....
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(owentan328 @ Sep 10 2013, 12:19 PM)
judging by the current s4 touchwiz UI..  that said, if note 3 uses the same UI as the s4.  then its the same thing.  correct me if im wrong . thanks
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yeah touchwiz ui is bloated but we the joy of android is that we can throw touchwiz out of the bin and use other launchers. anyways even stock touchwiz we can tweak and trim it's fat.
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QUOTE(owentan328 @ Sep 10 2013, 01:19 PM)
judging by the current s4 touchwiz UI..  that said, if note 3 uses the same UI as the s4.  then its the same thing.  correct me if im wrong . thanks
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Since you give a specific example I will give you a specific answer.

S3 and note2 have the same tw version. There is some occasional lag on s3 but nothing major. Note 2 has no lag.

S4 has reported lags but you're not going to die from it right? Note3 is expected to do away with those issues.
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QUOTE(h11g @ Sep 10 2013, 01:22 PM)
yeah touchwiz ui is bloated but we the joy of android is that we can throw touchwiz out of the bin and use other launchers. anyways even stock touchwiz we can tweak and trim it's fat.
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yeah thats true.

i personally think that nowadays deciding on buying an android device with respect to pure hardware performance is just too main stream.

its not just the performance , UI plays an important role .

without smooth UI.. whatever highest end performance put into the phone. the results is still going to be sucks
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Sep 10 2013, 01:24 PM)
Since you give a specific example I will give you a specific answer.

S3 and note2 have the same tw version. There is some occasional lag on s3 but nothing major. Note 2 has no lag.

S4 has reported lags but you're not going to die from it right? Note3 is expected to do away with those issues.
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you want example is it ..

try compare HTC one UI and samsung S4 UI.

better performance on S4, but UI better on HTC one (even though HTC skin is very heavy on resources)
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post Sep 10 2013, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Sep 10 2013, 01:24 PM)
Since you give a specific example I will give you a specific answer.

S3 and note2 have the same tw version. There is some occasional lag on s3 but nothing major. Note 2 has no lag.

S4 has reported lags but you're not going to die from it right? Note3 is expected to do away with those issues.
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erm maybe S4 Exynos lag is due to switching of thread from ARM7 to ARM15.

By enabling all cores, lag will be gone? rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(owentan328 @ Sep 10 2013, 01:24 PM)
yeah thats true.

i personally think that nowadays deciding on buying an android device with respect to pure hardware performance is just too main stream.

its not just the performance ,  UI plays an important role .

without smooth UI..  whatever highest end performance put into the phone.  the results is still going to be sucks
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Man....stock ui is just a ui....just coz windowx 8.x locks you in to metro doesn't mean you are locked in in Android.
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QUOTE(owentan328 @ Sep 10 2013, 01:24 PM)
yeah thats true.

i personally think that nowadays deciding on buying an android device with respect to pure hardware performance is just too main stream.

its not just the performance ,  UI plays an important role .

without smooth UI..  whatever highest end performance put into the phone.  the results is still going to be sucks
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Well you got customed ROM. Just get the PURE AOSP one. laugh.gif

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