yeah thats true..

what i meant was if you want to buy an android device. you would choose a smooth UI/phone or a bit laggy UI/phone out of the box?

I will choose hardware with more ROM so that any problem also can be fixed

S4 UI can be trim & make it faster & smooth by turn off window animation, transition & animator duration scale...

hahahahah...

hopefully those developers at XDA.. can come out more ROMs for these phones (samsung, HTC) something like those for nexus devices

all android phones also can do that la .

To me, screw the stock ui. I look at specs. I don't know how to use TW as it only lasts 5 mins after a reset or even when I get a new device. I have 5 androids and they are all running Nova. I do not remember how each different devices' stock ui looks like or behaves.

that for you ma ... ok la... i have no other comments for you

but to those out there looking for new phone...

judging just purely on hardware isnt the only key in buy phones

Actually it TW UI look the same like stock. Only Sense is huge departure from stock UI. That's my take la.

So what the problem of lag you are talking here.. when you already know how to settle & fix the laggy...

nvm... tell you , you also dont understand. hard to explain

you can comparing HTC sense UI and Samsung Touchwiz. then you will know

i believe even on touchwiz is plenty good for the average users, but for me personally, when buying a phone i look at specs. and yeah all my devices are on nova for extreme smoothness.

yeah i know...

i personally think if everyone is going for the pure android look and feel, then whats the point of developing touchwiz and sense UI?

we are comparing the smoothness of stock UI which utilize the hardware. not comparing just hardware.

You are missing out on the point of why Android is a great platform.

Choice is the keyword. Like = use, dont like = replace.

yes i know ...

and you are missing out the whole point of my statement.

if you said choice.. dont like change..

then i can those cheap cheap phone and tweak it to be as smooth as the s4. right?

Exactly! That why I said start from S III, Galaxy series is experiment product from Samsung.

S III lagging due to 1GB RAM is not enough for that time Touchwiz. Then Note II solve it by changing to 2GB.

Now S4 lagging or not stable possible due to 2GB RAM no longer enough for current more features and heavy Touchwiz. And then Note 3 is given user 3GB RAM which high possible eliminates the issues.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Sep 10 2013, 01:46 PM

note 4 = 4GB ram...

haiyo, later people say only Samsung need more RAM due to TW

sound logical. Anyway, default laptop RAM has been stagnanted at 4GB. I think 4GB will be magical number.

Will never happen, if you actually owned multiple android devices.

thats the point...

finally someone understand english.

the whole point of a new android phone is smoothness , if you cant get the smoothness right, then no matter how m many GB (3/4/8/16GB) of ram you put into a phone, the result will be the same (laggy).