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Samsung Galaxy Note III - Official V1, 3rd Gen of the original Phablet !!
Samsung Galaxy Note III - Official V1, 3rd Gen of the original Phablet !!
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Aug 1 2013, 09:30 AM
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Aug 20 2013, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Aug 20 2013, 07:48 PM) i see you fail to understand my needs then create your own assumption. Its your choice we are talking about full workable computer not twist words. So since you insist show me the whole world using android computer or android phones then yes agree i will change my current computer to an android phone computer. Please recommended me the best model. Budget 5k Lets start over.Need support for my dual graphic card for my two monitors, connectivity for my logitech z-5500D via optical out and run my games crysis 2, Resident evil Revelation. Thank you sifu you da best Ive read your posts. Before i reply, So what is your point? After all that computer vs note comparison. |
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Aug 20 2013, 07:57 PM
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Every person has his or her needs. If for joytest it is enough then so be it. If for you aspire it isnt enough then so be it.
So why are we having an argument here. If there is nothing else, carry on then and get back on topic. Or i will just warn for trolling. There is no need for sarcasm on anyones part here. |
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Sep 10 2013, 01:53 PM
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I cannot brain all your logics.
Lets take S3 for example. 1GB ram. Is ALL the 1GB ram being occupied by Touch Wiz? a mere fraction of it. Increasing ram has nothing to do with the smoothness of touchwiz. Its the programming of the UI itself. The program must be optimised to the hardware, checked for memory leaks and etc. Likewise, 3GB ram one should not expect "omg super smooth UI for sure". It may or may not be smoother, but i'd bet my bottom dollar it has nothing to do with the amount of ram it has for any devices 1GB ram and above. more ram does not equals smooth UI. want smooth UI, either open its framework, find out whats wrong or tweak it yourself, or get a diff UI Launcher where the developer is actively tweaking it. (which is why custom roms tend to be smoother, it is tweaked, based on what the chef thinks would improve performance. do u get magically extra ram when u flash a custom rom?) Compared to other OSes, its easy for those OS to not lag when all you have are just rows of icons. Hard to go wrong. Its that simple. This post has been edited by Baronic: Sep 10 2013, 01:55 PM |
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Sep 10 2013, 02:02 PM
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if u guys wanna discuss UI, make sure the UI framework, hardware the UI is being used on is the same to compare accurately.
your TW UI and his TW UI can be different if the framework has been tweaked etc. so unless you guys are knowledgeable enough to discuss it, skip this topic |
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Sep 10 2013, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 10 2013, 02:10 PM) More RAM actually affected the overall smoothness. the bolded part is not quite true. ANd there is more that goes into a good custom rom (keyword good) than just shaving things off. There is actual optimisations being done. the simplest one i can think of is partitioning more ram for the UI usage.S III lagging main issue due to it not enough RAM, and keep closing background task to let the phone still work in proper, and badly it can even close the main thing - touchwiz launcher. When RAM is too little to handle everything, how you tweak also useless. Those custom ROM can run more proper as basically most is trim down the whole ROM thus less things run in background, this in-fact is not the real solution. If buy a phone, I want it fully utilize whatever given by the manufacturer, not a trim down edition. Thus, adding more RAM in-fact is the better way. As for iOS, that is different case, iOS is as dummy as it can for me, and nothing really real multi-tasking and no much background running task. So iOS no need high performance processor or a lot of RAM to utilize. the program again, is not enough ram. Lets take Note 2 for example. 2GB. Out of 2GBram, how much ram is being used by TW UI? not 2GB. a fraction of that. So how is increasing the pool of available ram to 3GB gonna change anything? Its got to go down to the TW UI framework itself. You dont need the extra 1GB to become 3GB to increase smoothness. WHat you need to do is allocate more of the 2GB pool into the TW UI for example, but even then, by right, u shouldnt need to do that because to do it means that the UI has memory leak in the first place. :/ when your S3 lags, the TW UI, go to your ram, and see where is the pool of ram being assigned to. Then you can get a better picture of why your device is lagging. so yea. Optimisation is the keyword the rest of your post is more or less spot on |
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Sep 10 2013, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(owentan328 @ Sep 10 2013, 02:21 PM) thats the point. do we really need 3gb? i dont use all 2GB of ram on my htc one. The 3GB will be useful when you tweak as a chef and put in full featured multiwindow for your device. the Note 2's 2GB ram was not sufficient to do this.personally think that samsung needs it due to its features and smoothness someone said that the TW can we tweak to get smoothness. that said, then my HTC one also can tweak to give even more smoothness. and yes, the 3GB ram will hardly mean anything to the out of box user. to the customiser however, its like telling a sand castle builder "here's another bucket of sand. go wild with it" |
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Sep 10 2013, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(xproc @ Sep 10 2013, 02:25 PM) is it just me or other will think of this... since ram is designed long time ago because processor read at ram faster than read at spinning harddisk (pc era).... Thissince nowadays all mobile phones all using flashed based chip storage, why they dont skip all over the ram thing, directly read at the storage chips, does it makes sense? Instead of processor (SoC, 1.7gHz) <> ram (2gb) <> storage (8/16/32gb) how about processor (SoC, 1.3 gHz) <> flashed based ram/storage (16/32gb) then no more lag things happens lor... samsung is hardware maker, i root on them to do this, or maybe qualcomm or apple or intel or nvidia or amd can do this also... http://www.storagesearch.com/ssd-ram-v-flash.html » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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