Between this 3, of course Preve.

If you can drive a manual, then Fiesta 1.4l manual at RM69k.

This post has been edited by dares: Jul 25 2013, 12:47 AM

Well, the safety features are not there solely to prevent fatal accident. They are there to minimize injuries or to turn fatal to non-fatal. My point is, the reason people spend on insurance is to prepare for untoward things and minimize the loss/suffering. The safety features of a car provide the same safety net, even though a serious accident is very unlikely to happen to anyone.

let's get it straight... no one buys a car expecting to get into an accident...no one like accidents and that is a fact... you can only do as much as you can to prevent it whether it is driving cautiously or getting a safer car..

and what if, that person has no money to get a safer car.. it is not their choice to not drive a safer car.. their money is making the decision for them...

Haha, I get your point. You voice out that you cannot comprehend why people disregard safety when buying a car. I'm just telling you to main reasons, doesn't mean I have the same thinking.

Hmm....what i mean is, yes, even though safety features of a car provide a safety net to prepare for untoward things and to minimize the loss/suffering, some people just doesn't find it "profitable" to invest on something that is so expensive just to have a safety net for fatal accident and for something that is so unlikely to happen. However keep in mind that to most people, some safety features is enough to them, instead of a full fledged safety system.

Side/curtain airbags: Fiesta LX hatchback, around 70k? All the other Fiestas except for the S too. Kia Rio. Peugeot 208.
Side airbags: Preve CFE. Polo sedan.

I think he means auto locking doors once you start driving. That was a standard feature on most cars I believe... though these days it isn't anymore. It was removed due to cars not unlocking themselves after an accident, and that being a security risk. Which I think is ridiculous, because if the car doesn't lock itself I will do that myself... and then the car will still be locked after an accident.

My Kangoo auto locks above maybe 7 km/h...

But really, I might even prefer not having that feature. That means that hopefully you'll remember to lock the car once you get inside. Otherwise there is still a certain time frame from getting inside until you've reached the necessary speed where you are in danger. I try to remember locking the car once I get inside.

@darkdevilrey: Toyota salesman? Malaysia got no floods? Robberies? It's not the safest place in the world either. Europe hardly has those nature catastrophes (at least not so deadly ones). So Europeans are beloved by God? Quite a few Europeans are atheists these days...

@gold member: There is no such thing as absolute safety. But you can for example go through a poor, dangerous neighbourhood, wearing a flashy Rolex and a suit and an expensive looking suitcase, or you can avoid going through there, or, if need be at least be low profile about it. You just try to do what you can to be safe, and you're more likely to be safe. That alone is worth it, IMHO.

That study is ridiculous. Cars in general have become much safer. In Europe trucks aren't popular at all, yet the deaths have gone down significantly. It's not the increase in trucks that helped. I would't be surprised if those things actually make roads less safe.

I don't think they think about that. Or they believe in fate and God's will...

Amongst those the Preve CFE. But Proton _may_ upgrade the CFE sooner or later to 6 airbags. They've said something hinting in that direction.

@Balanced: The chances for fatal accidents in Malaysia are actually very high.

Scratched doors etc. are the same to repair no matter if Viva or Rolls Royce. (More or less lah... of course Rolls Royce the paint may be more expensive, and workshops will want to charge more cause you look rich )

Also, don't forget there are 50 shades of grey between being alive and dead after an accident. The Tesla owner WALKED AWAY. Had he driven lets say a Vios he might have been badly injured, but still alive. Maybe for the rest of his life he will sit in a wheel chair? Maybe he can't work as a doctor anymore? Getting the best safety you can afford also helps with those things. Surviving with no injuries instead of some.

Btw. I'd rather have a car that prevents me from being badly injured, than having an insurance that pays me in that case. I prefer being unharmed.

@butthead: I'm talking about picking the car that offers the best safety for the money you have, or at least a reasonable level. If your choice is between Viva and Saga SV, pick the Saga SV. It is much safer. If your choice is between Vios, City, Almera, 208, Rio or Fiesta pick between 208, Rio or Fiesta.

well said

That is my intention, not to spend more than what you can afford just to get a safer car. But to choose wisely within your budget on a safer car rather than a car with a better FC, RV or ease of maintenance.


This post has been edited by E34E36E46: Jul 25 2013, 09:58 AM

The Kia Cerato 1.6L has all the same safety features as the 2.0L model. It also has the same safety features as the D segment Optima K5.

It comes loaded with 6 airbags(including curtain airbags), Anti Lock Braking System, Electronic Brakeforce Distribution, Brake Assist, Traction Control System, Stability Control System and Hill Assist Control.

And all this for 99K+ only.

and people will buy viosTRD

You are right on the spot. Now I have no more excuses to delay buying the Cerato 1.6l for my dear precious wife loh !

Well said kadajawi & E34E36E46.

Safety should be top priority when buying a car.

When someone ask me why buy a rio instead of vios for B-segment budget, i will tell them, it is an insurance if shit happens if me or wife is driving it. There is no guarantee if one would have survive but at least i know, the chances of survival will be higher than says a vios.

By the way, the rio comes with speed sensing autolock too and it will unlock if there is accident.

This post has been edited by gtfan: Jul 25 2013, 11:22 AM

I've noticed a lot of people arguing about the extremes. Not to disagree but just to add another point of view. There are 3 types of accidents in my opinion.

1. minor accidents where no matter what car you drive, you'll walk away
2. fatal accidents where no matter what car you drive, you'll die
3. everything in between

Most accidents will likely be #3. A safe car will ensure that the chances of you surviving is higher in this category.

More thoughts about safety:

- a safe car is a combination of features including seat belts. Wear your seatbelts. Princess Diana was traveling in one of the safest cars in the era. The only person to survive the crash was the bodyguard who was wearing a seat belt

- a safe car can be hampered when rescuers can't break the windscreen to save you in an accident because you put safety tint on it

- a safe car can become unsafe when loose items in the car fly around during impact. This is particularly true in SUV where there's no separation between the luggage and passenger sections

I guess all auto lock is also auto unlock coz when we off the engine it will auto unlock, when accident occur the engine will also turned off so the doors will unlock, no?

Kia Forte 2.0..

You can automatically open them for the 2 front doors be it whether it's lock or not,

Everyman/woman has his/her priority, be it safety/RV/FC or whatever reason, the point is to raise the awareness of basic safety features that should be put in every car by the car manufacturers or distributors. Let us all Malaysian car buyers put pressure on them to put in safety features as in US and Europe, and not with just 2 crappy airbags! Don't let those distributors get away with those substandard safety features. We don't need sunroof or leather seats (don't mind having them if they already put in the 6 airbags and ESP), especially with the Malaysian weather !

This post has been edited by E34E36E46: Jul 25 2013, 12:11 PM

Most cars equipped with auto lock can still be opened from inside by the driver and front passenger. The auto lock feature is to prevent intruder opening the door from outside the car. Of course, the best is to instill the habit to lock the car as soon as you get in the car. The auto lock feature is just an added security, in case you forget to lock the door.

This post has been edited by E34E36E46: Jul 25 2013, 12:22 PM

in my opinion, there is no point to have a high RV, high FC but low safety coz when u involved in an accident, those RV and FC can't buy life, can't buy the broken arm or foot, can't buy u the ability to work and earn money, etc

understand that.. explaining to no-name regarding the auto-lock feature I have in my car. you don't need to door to be unlock before you can walk out of the car.

it's good to know that