Rio has 6 airbags. Less than 80k.

I have checked with the Ford SA already, not auto lock for all Ford models, even the Focus and Mondeo !

You earn enuff to buy a safe car, you can choose to
a) buy and drive a safe car
b) drive a kancil and let God decide

You are alive today, you can choose to
a) NOT sleep on the PLUS highway
b) sleep on the PLUS highway and let God decide

See my point?

Besides, if you wanna talk religion: If you think God is all-powerful and can control whether you die or not, what makes you think you can control whether you wanna suicide or not against His will?

This post has been edited by dares: Jul 24 2013, 11:06 PM

Sorry, my POV is that there is NO WAY we can ENSURE That the car we are driving is totally SAFE. Simply because all these are assumptions. The crash test only comes out with a procedures, common encounter and put them into test. Once passed, then these cars get certified.

Do you think when (touch wood) someone is meant to get into casualty, because of the brand "Volvo" "Mercs" "BMW", then it makes the differences? Or even it is "VIOS", then the God will say,"It is a God's car, let's spare these INNOCENT lives!"??

No, even the most safety car, tend to fail. It does mean it is fail proof. Statistics have proven that the bigger the vehicle, the higher the chance of survival. If this is the case, why don't we all change our cars to trucks due to the safety issues. I think these truck can easily pass these Euro NCAP easily.

It all depends on how vehicles collide, how is the casualty happens and the impact of the casualty. These design can prevent but NOT avoid it some vehicles would get involved into the casualties.



Read more here: http://www.trucktrend.com/features/consume...l#ixzz2ZyZ86V8j

This post has been edited by gold member: Jul 24 2013, 11:08 PM

The whole point for safer cars is about the INCREASING THE POSSIBILITY of surviving an accident, not a GUARANTEE.

If someone gets killed in a Viva after ramming a tree, perhaps that person would've survived in a Vios? But would a Vios survive a collision with a 10 tonne truck? probably not, but it is even less likely for a Viva.

This post has been edited by dares: Jul 24 2013, 11:15 PM

Hey Bro, haven't you notice all the models are above 10 years old ?

Like I said, it's a euro safety feature, even a 300k bmw does not have it, but if something like lack of auto lock is so important that you would ignore the other safety features?

I know, but when new they're all expensive cars, right?

Exactly what I am trying to say. It all depends on the driver and sometimes probabilities. All these are out of our controls. There are so many parameters on the road. It doesn't mean if we are careful, and driving a very safety branded car, then it is an "immunity" to all casualties! (in other word, it doesn't means once one has shone the brand of incredible "VIOS" = ultimately spare!).

There are many way a casualty can happen. It can happen that a vehicle losses control, some obstacles on road during high speed driving and can be even (the story inspira vs lancer) that a vehicle lost control and flying over from the opposite side of the road! There are just many possibilities. It doesn't mean that if we have a safe car, we drive recklessly = God saves the poor driver.

but driving a Viva might avoid that accident in the first place..maybe due to slower acceleration and top speed.
It is all about bad timing.

This post has been edited by wh0cares: Jul 24 2013, 11:25 PM

Viva can be fast. Enough to cause a fatal accident.

I really cannot comprehend how come some people would choose RV/cheap spare parts/low maintenance over 6 Airbags and stability control, when these safety features will greatly improve their chances of survival in an accident or minimize the injuries ?

not some, is many, at least typical malaysians

Fair point. You can only do your best to increase the chance of survival for yourself and your passengers, that's all.

No, I will not overlook the important safety features such as side & curtain airbags, ABS, ESP etc. But I will also NOT consider a car that does not has auto lock feature, with the rampant robberies, road bullies and snatch thieves in Malaysia nowadays !

Looks like I have to change my next nickname to kiahyundai, no more f10f30 loh !

This post has been edited by E34E36E46: Jul 24 2013, 11:48 PM

I can confirm that, one day I was driving happily at 120kp on the NS highway, but was overtaken by 2 kancil/viva (can't differentiate because they were passing too fast lah)

This post has been edited by E34E36E46: Jul 25 2013, 12:08 AM

im driving viva . thinking of upgrade with 70k budget make taken service charge into consideration.

so alza, almera, preve which one is safer ?

Many factors:

1. Money. They are not going to use their car for long, hence RV is important. Since they know they are going to sell their car in a few years, it is a CONFIRMED big 'savings'.

2. Cars tend to breaks down in Malaysia shitty road. Drive a skyline in Japan, absorbers good for many years. Take the skyline back to Malaysia, all 4 absorbers need to chance in less than 2 years (4k satu batang). Nobody keeps the absorber as stock in Malaysia, need wait 1 week for stock. This is about money + convenience.

3. Chances of fatal accident is very very low. Whereas chances for minor accident (scratch, bump other cars during parking, scratch door) is very common especially among young drivers. Hence buying a car with cheap spare parts almost guaranteed some 'savings' as all these minor accidents might required you to change some parts. Why pay more for something that has the probability of >1% (fatal accident) to happen when you can SAVE for something that will happen at the probability of say...50%? (minor accident)

4. Malaysians usually prepare for something they foresee. Since fatal accident is very rare and "die" is a almost a taboo word, they would sometimes place more importance on other factor. As long as the car have some safety features, then it is fine. Don't need to have 6 airbags. 2 airbags are enough.

*All those numbers are just my imaginary guess works to show my point. It's not a statistic but it makes my point clearer.

Then why buy life insurance or personal accident insurance. The probability of dying at a young age also very low what, or else the life insurance companies all kaput ! I look at those safety features as insurance, hope I will never use them, but will have peace of mind to have them ever ready to serve.

Life insurance = covered many things ma, not only accident fatal accident on the road.
Personal accident insurance = it is aim for coverage during accident. But is not only covered for fatal accident ma. Normal minor accidents also covered