Continue to discuss here and will ask Chulk Gor to update here. For old thread please refer: -

Ver 1 Discussion























Basic Info of the project

1. Land Tenure : Freehold, under MPKJ
2. Site Location : Neaby Alam Damai, next to forest reserve
3. Land Size : 9.18 acres
4. No of Block : 5 block (A1, A2, B1, B2 and C) and town villa
5. No of unit : 92 units per block (A1, A2, B1, B2, need to confirm with developer), 4 units per floor
6. Build up : Standard build up 1269sqft and 1550sq.ft either facing KL, Lake and golf course view, Balakong town view
7. Estimated Maintenance Fees : RM0.25psf subject to sinking fund


Common facilities
- Swimming and Wading Pools
- Male & Female Changing Rooms
- Jacuzzi
- Barbecue Area
- Reading Room
- Tennis Court
- Mini Basketball Court
- Badminton Court
- Guardhouse
- Residents’ & Visitors’ Car Parks
- Sauna
- Gymnasium
- Yoga/Aerobics room
- Multi-Purpose Hall
- Children’s Playground
- Games room
- Management Office
- Refuse Bin Collection Room
- Passenger and Bomba Lifts
- Surau
- Kiosk

Buyer List
1.Jinenggan
2.takeshi99
3.brianccg
4.kbandito
5.BotNalang
6.matt0618
7.Fat3Twister
8.cacphy
9.walle
10.himalaya81
11.twlong
12.pobox
13.kitmel
14.anzen600
15.Kvsual
16.lauyamonk
17.Angel Bao Bao
18.joe_star
19.Inv 3699 (3 units)
20.yeap99
21.ralphi
22.xxerton
23.kenq
24.KualaLumpur_02
25.hlily
26.Jo3yZ92
27.ycyap2
28.Ultraman007
29.JaYdenZz
30.Jase
31. pinochio8799

This post has been edited by brianccg: Oct 29 2013, 03:38 PM

Please do not post advert type of posting.
This is purely discussion topic, not sales/advert.

Ty

Hi,

Sales Gallery currently open everyday.

Monday - Friday: 10am-5pm
Saturday & Sunday : 10am-6pm

www.cloudtree.com.my
www.zalam.com.my




This post has been edited by chulk: Sep 18 2013, 09:20 PM

This post has been edited by chulk: Sep 11 2013, 05:46 PM

This post has been edited by chulk: Oct 18 2013, 09:59 AM

so many discussion meh on this topic.. whats the catch

Last reserve, thanks.
Info will insert by tonight.

good
very rare c one property forum come ver 2

No problem bro.... just help to open ver 2 since ver 1 was closed.

Yay welcome Version 2~!
Project yet to launch already version 2 =P

What advertisement we had posted? Regardin pricings??

Think moderator is refer to those : 2% d/p, a lot of freebies etc etc gua.. haha

That happens in every thread i've seen though. okay wil inform moderator to close it if ive seen any thread like that..

anyways brianccg, how did you managed to get the 3rd photo (Floating gym with new observation desk) ?
It neither showing on Roadshow last weekend nor posted by Chulk kor.

Hmmm

This post has been edited by Kvsual: Jul 23 2013, 11:46 AM

I tot Chulk kor closed it, means there are ppl cucuk us at the back ?

just copy the picture from ver 1. It shown on 1st page

Nope it's differ photo.
One is old design, another one is new posted by you.
Haha ive all the photos/scale models in my phones too.

Diff meh?? I did not notice wor.. just copy from ver 1.

o.. I know what u mean. I resize it

Haha nothing serious la.

Floating Gym:
Old Photo in Vers 1: Floating gym without Observation desk
New Photo in Vers 2: Floating with obversation desk.

Looking forward =)

Ya wo.. The floating gym is different now. The plant is different too, this look more clean and nice.

Just for easy find back..
This post has been edited by feizaiII: Aug 29 2013, 10:29 AM

Congratulation for version 2

How come Inv 3699 been repeated 3 times? He bought 3 units?

Yes. he bought 3 units. Rich man.hahaha

Really a... I did not really notice..hahaha.. old liao...

Congrats to v2 !!

Yes bro, good observation skills u have there

noticed the difference after you mention about it..prefer this new pic, looks more solid , clean and classy.

Yea he should get 4units instead on the sale floor.
So the whole floor belongs him including the lift area. Haha!

Is okay

and by the way, we are not only going to install the traffic light, we plan to change the junction as well. (but no interchange lah)
behold, waiting for permit.

This post has been edited by chulk: Jul 23 2013, 05:02 PM

Change the junction? Like how eh ?

suddenly this suddenly that
ok this later that
wowwwwww.......................

No info updated tonight?

already copy and paste by brian.

I thought u have extra info insert tonight.
Nvm then. thanks =)

Forgotten which property I saw recently - the roof top of the condo is actually a greenery garden, this idea is really special and eco-green, I like it.

I think ive seen most of the new condo has nicee sky garden.
Envy~

Ya, since the roof tiles are already exposed under sunlight and daily rains, might as well make full use of it and make it a very nice garden and the plants will generate oxygen during daytime.

Yes agreed. Greens on sky garden is very basic for development nowadays.. we wait for the finalized information only give opinions la, lazy ady. Meanswhile can search for any potential prop around. =D

Think the next hot one to enter the market would be Eko Cheras opposite Leisure Mall.

Yes, zalam shouldnt drag the launching so lon til Sept/Oct, wil lose some customers then.
OR Chester acts too early on the sales to hit their target/KPI set by their customers.

New projects I'm interested now:

EcoCheras
EcoSky
Centrina @Central
Trigon @ Setiawalk
The Z residence mastersuite @ BJ
Kingsley hils Putra heights

Alots alots new projects launching these few months.

This post has been edited by Kvsual: Jul 25 2013, 11:57 AM

About the sky garden...

Er... I will rather not to have it... as it really seldom you will spent time at the sky garden. Me stayed in 1 sentul less than 10 times I went to sky garden.....

I dont think CT will lose any customer as the project you listed above is price more higher price than CT and perhaps with less discount.

haha I didnt say CT lose, but different location, different concept, some are mixed development. So can't compare.
Ecosky sil yet to launch but looking forward in KL City.
Yes Pricings are the main thing here. But I wil opt for better product regardless of the pricings.
I chosen CT due to value of money and near my office. If there are better choice, pricings is secondary.

Anyways, 2 months to wait..

If prices are the same at CT, which do you think they would choose? Locations is key. Leisure Mall/MRT is a no brainer. But just how high are the prices is the question now.

As I know The Z's mastersuite is 440+ psf for 1400sf. Reasonable price for now at this potential Bukit jalil location. (though the Psf is like 350-400psf years back). Might plan a visit. Cons: High density with Kiara 1-2, future The Rainz by Exsim. But pavilion 2, LRT and WCT mall gonna be there.

Centrina around 600-650psf, very grand lobby and high end grade. Kinda like the facade. (but High density).

Trigon by Setia at SetiaWalk, guess around 650psf too. 150+ units lowdensity, facing highway or SetiaWalk. personally love the Setiawalk.

All projects mentioned are freehold too. But anyhow, CT still a goodbuy with its feature, provided only if the access is grand and presentable.

Do you think they will price same as CT?

Mah Sing project in Jln Ipoh, leasehold target at 700psf, Ecosky next to it freehold will sell lower than this?

Lido in Jalan Cheras already asking for 600psf, leasehold (after 5% discount is 570psf).

And you are right, location is key, thats why CT price slight lower.

Some are same some are higher price.

Bukit Jalil very good potential for the upcoming LRT, new malls by WCT, Pavilion 2 etc. My fren got the Kiara 2 Residence last year but not interested.
too many Condos along the kesas highway and B.J. from Z, Rainz, KR1, KR2, TwinArkz, KME 1, old mediumcost, and the super high density Parklane OUG.
current BJ already very jam, cant imagine when 2016 all completed and VP. Sure many units are letting go, competitive. and very Jammmm...

Replace Sky garden into herb garden ? What u think ? Any GBI or GreenHouse Gas Inventory evaluation for this cloud tree ?

From the official webpage, i tor herb garden ady included? In Central Valley park? Hmm not sure.
no GBI.
Stil need to wait weeks/months for full details loh.

I saw the model is only normal recreational park with some walking path. Maybe forget about the GBI and consider GHG Inventory approach. The first ever condominium that is doing it in Malaysia. Sound great huh....many oversea project is implementing it now. Calculate how much emission of the development itself and if possible, work out the offset plan on how much to reduce the GHG emission by planting more trees and green products. I think they have sufficient trees to offset the emission. Just my 2 cent suggestions....

Good suggestion and welcome more opinions too.
But I dont think CT offers any new technology for eco/green purpose. As chulk kor mentioned those gbi grade condo come with costs borned by buyers. Well it's good to have it, dreamcity do have those features to save water/electricity blabla (dont ask me how).

U r buyer or just interested? Book now or wait till launch for full details.

My partner and I booked a unit.

From my info, unlike GBI, GHG cost is very minimal. Only need to appoint a consultant who can do the evaluation.

Don't worry, i am not the consultant...just saw this type of new thing from articles maybe can share with everybody over here.

We are talking about sustainable building and not how green the building is by hitting the GBI point. What is the point if you can hit the GBI Platinum grade but you project is emitting more greenhouse gas ?

Correct me if i am wrong.

In fact, i am very keen to explore more on the last block and according to S.A, they call it Block C. Any ideas ?

What do GBI and GHG mean?

For me i will remain CT as my first choice unless there is another poperty that gives me greenery view.

GBI - Green Building Index

GHG - Green House Gas

Maybe something new in Earth. My planet there very hot this type of topic.

lol bro, like Cantonese said
"ghost also know your mum is women"

we want to launch the project badly, but we are dealing with multiple malaysia government departments...
we have people sitting at their office everyday just to wait the pengarah sign our doc....

and previous PR selangor cabinet member issue also waste about a month of our time.

This post has been edited by chulk: Jul 24 2013, 12:48 PM

Govt govt~ ><
Yea lo if not fast fast launch, later pop out even more new prop to compete. Not sure stil have projects n development in south cheras here (balakong).

So far WOTP is the best? In this area.
Or Damansara Foresta?
But personally feel that Wotp buildings look like high end flat leh. Square square..but good concept. Got shuttle bus to nearby public transportation somemore!

D.posted.

This post has been edited by Kvsual: Jul 24 2013, 01:11 PM

Something is not enough

Puasa now and raya coming.
They need Angpaw la. Haha.

WOTP is the best? But the orientation of the condo buildings are mostly facing each other, no? Would there be any upcoming new condo or buildings blocking any of the WOTP blocks? Anyway I was not aware of WOTP before this.

Damansara Foresta, almost wanted to book but I was told that there would be total 8 blocks in total, just that they are building block by block and not in one go. It looks really "green" per their pictures but I don't know what would happen down the road, somemore the price is beyond my affordability.

Serigin Residence is also really really nice, but it does not have forest view or greenery view, anyway I was too late to know - it was totally sold out.

I thought of Casa Tropicana, nice golf field view! But it's leasehold, somemore RM600K per unit + necessary stamp duty and tax + renovation, more than enough for me to buy a new unit or landed.

Without proper authority approval, even after you launch the gov will fine developer and cause the whole project abandoned.

Will rather wait for all approval obtained. Think developer also want to launch the project asap.

y so hurry
slowly larrrr.....

yea slowly wait lo.
U got an unit ho?.. good

Block A2 high level

Chulk Kor,

Booked A1 high level.
I am rather impressed with the artistic impression of the interior design of CT.
I am wondering, will it be possible for zalam to offer additional upgrade package that includes the interior renovation options?
I meant, if buyers wants to pay additional, zalam can change the flooring tiles, include the kitchen cabinet, the faucet and etc. etc. making it look more like those in pics.
In a way, zalam and buyer both dont have to waste certain construction material. Maybe I don't like the 2x2 tiles, I am going to change it the moment I get the keys. Isn't it a waste? It kinda save the buyers renovation time too and move in ASAP.

Welcome to CT.
Yea it could be an option/package of interior &installation for owners. Save money n time for us to find suitable ID.
If not mistaken, SDB do offers the similar package too.

Kvsual you are really active in CT thread. I can foresee you will be the president of CT residents.

I check this n other projects in daily basis ma.
Since im buyer of CT, sure set it email notifications 24/7.
Last year active in dreamcity, now CT. Was active in Petalz thread too. Hehe

will look into it upon lauching, but not that detail.

Make sure you volunteer yourself as jmb committee.

+1

Jmb? Journal of Microbiology and Biotechnology? Lol
Just worried I cant use to Condo livin life, need to be considerate n care bout neighbours upper n below. N deal with issues from here n there.
Landed stil peaceful....

Not sure any new development around WOTP, but that site is a very big land.
Foresta yea initially though only few blocks, didn;t expect so high density. Not interested as I don't like Damansara/PJ for ownstay. damn jam. But investment is good.
Seringin, if not mistaken all layout are big in size. not cheap though, guess more expensive than both Foresta & WOTP.

WOTP is built on a huge land, but it's only green field, is there mountain or hill? I haven't paid a visit to the site yet.

If you look at the total sum of each unit, it will look expensive as the bigger the unit size, the higher the total amount; however, if you look at total amount per sf, each condo is about the same, CT worth the value I would say:

Seringin = RM550 per sf
WOTP = Not sure, someone mentioned in v1 but I forgot
Foresta = RM520-550 psf

WOTP: I mentioned that. if not mistaken WOTP just 430-450psf only, after 10k rebates and plus up to 1k-50k lucky draw. As i remember it's cheaper than my dreamcity in psf but larger in size. Very a good deal I would say. but that time the heart still with the Front lake Dreamcity, and dislike WOTP unit facing another block.

Honestly, WOTP not as expensive as other thinks, Just their layout size are all big (very ideal for family), large size X 420psf = 700k above.
916sf a nono for me, medium cost.

very good idea but very difficult to implement.

a well known developer once did it previously.
offering customisation of the following:
1. choice of finishes for living/dining floor - can opt for bare without finishes (just tell them how many mm screed left to FFL), marble, solid timber strips, others
2. choice of finishes for wall to EACH bathroom - can also opt for bare without finishes, different type of marbles, granites or tiles
3. choice of finishes for EACH bedroom - can opt for bare without finishes (just tell them how many mm screed left to FFL), marble, solid timber strips, others
4. choice of kitchen cabinets - selection of counter top, panel type, colours, etc. of course can opt for without also
5. additional wiring points, etc.

why difficult?
imagine if the project have 400 units.
instead of ordering 400 worth of quantities for a single item, ended up maybe 20% each for 5 variants. no economy of scale and prices goes up.
wastage increases. contingencies increases.
coordination becomes so much more difficult and possibility of errors increase.

but in the end, i think most customers were very satisfied with the product.

now i don't think the same developer offer such customisation anymore. kekeke.

sister, you are like shooting blanks everywhere leh.
what is your real requirement?
list it down and maybe some sifu can help you find your dream home.

i'm also searching for mine. hopefully someone can help me too.

need interior designer can pm me

We need you Kochin taikor to advise if CT a good choice too

+10000
i was like just now...

Thanks for the advices.
Yea understand. Hmm i only need to change Floortype of masterbedroom and bathroom wall then (if only the end product is )

if chulk boss give me one unit FOC,
i everyday sit in front of PC promote CT kaw kaw....

Bro, totally agreed on what you said.

If each of the units will have own design, the price is no longer 500psf, likely 1000psf?

Bear in mind that the developer cost of building material is base on bulk purchase in order to get the good price.

if CT is good, no need promote gua..
every projects also promoting here n there, buyers also confused even had some studies d..

haha ask Chulk to give you the mock unit with fully furnished for free..

This post has been edited by Kvsual: Jul 25 2013, 11:48 AM

i thought chulk kor got a smoking hot sales agent

ok just finish calculate, the jogging track aka walking path, is appx 780 meter.

lol which one?