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 How do I get a turbo system installation, On my KIA Forte?

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post Aug 7 2013, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 2 2013, 10:26 PM)
AMG, Alpina, TRD, Mugen, AMS, etc, they are at least something like licensed modders in cooperation with carmakers. Therefore, these mods are professionally done as they done proper calculation and those air intake, exhaust, etc were done specifically for the make/models that they are made for.

We are talking about those who pull piping and install turbocharger, exhaust on their own here. If they only get 1 or 2 parts from TRD but the piping for air intake and exhaust are made of dunno where they get material, this is where the problem comes.

This is for those who still wanted to argue about ori Lancer GT '07-12 vs Inspira:
None of you bunch can tell the difference on the kerb weight Lancer GT 1385kg
compared to Inspira 16" rim 1335kg while with Inspira 17" rim + bodykit only at 1350kg. THis is not obvious enough on the difference. Stop taking the downgraded GT on website to compare. Who is the troll, you bunch ofcourse that rely so much on website. MMC technical department already hinted where the difference. If you bunch still unhappy and wanted to clarify further, check with MMC technical department. Why so afraid to check with them?
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BTW,the point bring up on Lancer GT vs Inspira is regarding the ECU map
You can download ROM from both car,have correct definition and you can compare them in ECUFlash
In this case,it is exactly the same

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post Aug 7 2013, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(dreamsquall @ Aug 3 2013, 10:19 AM)
I dont care la wat they hinted, I just wan the 50kg rear metal bar of lgt that u mentioned. Other than tis i'm not interested.
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Conclusion is, the few of you are bunch of idiots that don't understand basic English. The result obviously shows the weight difference between original Lancer GT with heaviest Inspira with larger rim + full bodykit. Despite putting everything in, the Inspira Premium even with 18" Lancer rim, as per K3nnYkl82 could only go max 1360kg. It still can't get anywhere close to Lancer GT kerb weight 1385kg. Is this not good enough for the answer?
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post Aug 7 2013, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(izso @ Aug 3 2013, 08:33 PM)
'Proper calculation'... riiiight. Like how the AMG black SL had so much torque the wheels couldn't handle it and the traction control system went crazy whenever someone floored it in a corner? Pretty good "proper calculation" by AMG.
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Whatever these franchised licensed modders do, the technical part especially the whole intake parts and exhaust parts that they fitted replacing the ori stock carmakers parts, the pressure, the piping, etc are carefully done. Local modshop, if they have the actual spec for modding specific make/model eg. Lancer and get the parts that are meant for modding Lancer, it will not go wrong.

However, those who get few renowned mod parts and do piping, etc, mix around with whatever mod part they can think of, too obsessed with Fast & Furious, that'll end up harming the engine. Customers who done with them are doing at own risk.
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post Aug 7 2013, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Aug 7 2013, 12:21 AM)
BTW,the point bring up on Lancer GT vs Inspira is regarding the ECU map
You can download ROM from both car,have correct definition and you can compare them in ECUFlash
In this case,it is exactly the same
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wrong it's not the same! Lancer GT has a better tune hence higher peak horsepower. Lancer GT also has a different rom ID. It's not exactly the same.

QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 7 2013, 08:37 AM)
Conclusion is, the few of you are bunch of idiots that don't understand basic English. The result obviously shows the weight difference between original Lancer GT with heaviest Inspira with larger rim + full bodykit. Despite putting everything in, the Inspira Premium even with 18" Lancer rim, as per K3nnYkl82 could only go max 1360kg. It still can't get anywhere close to Lancer GT kerb weight 1385kg. Is this not good enough for the answer?
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Go get em' jayraptor! Don't back down!
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post Aug 7 2013, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 7 2013, 08:42 AM)
Whatever these franchised licensed modders do, the technical part especially the whole intake parts and exhaust parts that they fitted replacing the ori stock carmakers parts, the pressure, the piping, etc are carefully done. Local modshop, if they have the actual spec for modding specific make/model eg. Lancer and get the parts that are meant for modding Lancer, it will not go wrong.

However, those who get few renowned mod parts and do piping, etc, mix around with whatever mod part they can think of, too obsessed with Fast & Furious, that'll end up harming the engine. Customers who done with them are doing at own risk.
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I find it interesting how you chose to ignore what I mentioned earlier - that I customized my Wira myself DIY and got better power (GT Auto has my dyno history and I have a printout as proof) and FC than stock. I'm not using any renowned mod parts and chose to go with reputable companies to do the mods that I couldn't DIY myself like exhaust mods, machining (based on my specs) and all that.

Harming the engine? After 9 years the only thing that screwed up was when I didn't follow maintenance schedule for a top overhaul and had a head gasket leakage after it broke.

I actually don't understand what you are trying to get at. Are you saying the average joe mechanic modder out there can't do what OEM manufacturers can do? Or what exactly?

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post Aug 7 2013, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(alkt @ Aug 6 2013, 09:38 PM)
Waste of time IMO smile.gif

Gouki,
Can't u type in paragraphs?! So difficult to read with my old eyes...
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my enter butan on my keyboard rosak. sponsor pls. btw, jayraptor said subaru turbo and engine is old and rubbish. only power and has no torque. rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 7 2013, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Gouki @ Aug 7 2013, 01:16 PM)
my enter butan on my keyboard rosak. sponsor pls. btw, jayraptor said subaru turbo and engine is old and rubbish. only power and has no torque.  rolleyes.gif
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the legacy i just test driven last week must be a fake car then brows.gif
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post Aug 7 2013, 03:01 PM

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For custom turbo, you must need:
1) The turbo unit itself (duh)
2) New exhaust manifold (turbo exhaust mani)
3) New programmable ECU or piggyback
4) New downpipe
5) New intercooler
6) New intake w/ custom piping (most likely relocated from factory location)
7) A whole bunch of V-bands and silicon couplers/reducers, etc.
8) Stainless steel piping
9) Pile of new gaskets, nuts, etc.
10) Some sheet metal for fabricating mounts

You may need:
1) New fuel injectors
2) New pistons
3) New rods
4) New camshafts
5) New ignition coils
6) New spark plugs
7) Spare engine for when you f*** this up

Those are the parts. Now the knowledge:
1) Understand what's in this chart http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/compressor_maps and size your turbo accordingly
2) How to tune your ECU/piggyback
3) Welding skills
4) Pipe bending skills

Now the tools:
1) Mandrel pipe bender
2) Welder, better plasma for precision welds
3) Laptop for programming ECU/piggyback
4) A hydraulic lift
5) Basic wrench set
6) Angle grinder
7) Circular saw

Source: Personal experience with Mazda6 MPS, and a friend who works for Garrett USA.
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post Aug 7 2013, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Aug 7 2013, 10:11 AM)
wrong it's not the same! Lancer GT has a better tune hence higher peak horsepower. Lancer GT also has a different rom ID. It's not exactly the same.
Go get em' jayraptor! Don't back down!
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Mercury, 2011 lancer have the exact same rom as inspira d. 57330001
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post Aug 7 2013, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 7 2013, 06:45 PM)
Mercury, 2011 lancer have the exact same rom as inspira d. 57330001
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is it the inspira 2.0 pre 2013 models?
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Aug 7 2013, 01:16 PM)
my enter butan on my keyboard rosak. sponsor pls. btw, jayraptor said subaru turbo and engine is old and rubbish. only power and has no torque.  rolleyes.gif
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yeah i agree bro, it's old and rubbish.

i only changed the downpipe+exhaust, air filter+inlet hose and with it's stock ECU just remap with openECU together with the stock turbo...only manage to get 316whp/45kg torque from 250whp/36kg torque...really RUBBISH la!!! yawn.gif cry.gif
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post Aug 7 2013, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(alkt @ Aug 7 2013, 07:35 PM)
yeah i agree bro, it's old and rubbish.

i only changed the downpipe+exhaust, air filter+inlet hose and with it's stock ECU just remap with openECU together with the stock turbo...only manage to get 316whp/45kg torque from 250whp/36kg torque...really RUBBISH la!!! yawn.gif  cry.gif
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he only sworn by VGT and twin-scroll turbos from the peugeot, bmw, VW, Audi and etc. he say the conti more advance. but he didnt know the subaru are using twin scroll too. whistling.gif
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according to jayraptor, vvti from toyota > subaru's turbo.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2893623/+60

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QUOTE(Gouki @ Aug 7 2013, 07:44 PM)
according to jayraptor, vvti from toyota > subaru's turbo.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2893623/+60

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actually that is true cos most of the chicks are in toyota club sigh cry.gif
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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Aug 7 2013, 07:06 PM)
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is it the inspira 2.0 pre 2013 models?
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5733001 are for 2.0 cvt inspira.
I did a fren lancer 2.0 .. 2011 .. Same 57330001
Urs 57370001 is for 4B10.

Anyhow I know timing chain is to save fuel
And vvti is only good for timing chain
Turbo are useless especially subaru one
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QUOTE(alkt @ Aug 7 2013, 07:47 PM)
actually that is true cos most of the chicks are in toyota club sigh cry.gif
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so what u waiting for? buy the new Vios! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 7 2013, 07:48 PM)
5733001 are for 2.0 cvt inspira.
I did a fren lancer 2.0 .. 2011 .. Same 57330001
Urs 57370001 is for 4B10.

Anyhow I know timing chain is to save fuel
And vvti is only good for timing chain
Turbo are useless especially subaru one
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and lancer has the 50kg anti roll bar. laugh.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Aug 7 2013, 07:56 PM)
and lancer has the 50kg anti roll bar.  laugh.gif  tongue.gif
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Korek.
He keep insist..
Says we kenot prove.. We told him we weight the lgt rim much heavier .. But he dun accept the findings.. Yet says we kenot prove.

The most amazing statement ever.. 50kg antiroll bar..

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QUOTE(Gouki @ Aug 7 2013, 07:44 PM)
according to jayraptor, vvti from toyota > subaru's turbo.
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no stock toyota in the market can provide as much hp/torque as the stock subaru legacy/impreza

what the shit is he talking about weih laugh.gif

ps: notice i only mentioned stock, NO MODIFICATIONS WHATSOEVER
lol jayraptor
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 7 2013, 08:18 PM)
Korek.
He keep insist..
Says we kenot prove.. We told him we weight the lgt rim much heavier .. But he dun accept the findings.. Yet says we kenot prove.

The most amazing statement ever.. 50kg antiroll bar..
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can provide me the link?
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