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How do I get a turbo system installation, On my KIA Forte?
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mercury99
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Aug 7 2013, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Aug 7 2013, 12:21 AM) BTW,the point bring up on Lancer GT vs Inspira is regarding the ECU mapYou can download ROM from both car,have correct definition and you can compare them in ECUFlash In this case,it is exactly the samewrong it's not the same! Lancer GT has a better tune hence higher peak horsepower. Lancer GT also has a different rom ID. It's not exactly the same. QUOTE(jayraptor @ Aug 7 2013, 08:37 AM) Conclusion is, the few of you are bunch of idiots that don't understand basic English. The result obviously shows the weight difference between original Lancer GT with heaviest Inspira with larger rim + full bodykit. Despite putting everything in, the Inspira Premium even with 18" Lancer rim, as per K3nnYkl82 could only go max 1360kg. It still can't get anywhere close to Lancer GT kerb weight 1385kg. Is this not good enough for the answer? Go get em' jayraptor! Don't back down!
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mercury99
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Aug 7 2013, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 7 2013, 06:45 PM) Mercury, 2011 lancer have the exact same rom as inspira d. 57330001 is it the inspira 2.0 pre 2013 models?
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mercury99
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Aug 12 2013, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 7 2013, 07:48 PM) 5733001 are for 2.0 cvt inspira. I did a fren lancer 2.0 .. 2011 .. Same 57330001 Urs 57370001 is for 4B10. Anyhow I know timing chain is to save fuel And vvti is only good for timing chain Turbo are useless especially subaru one All 2.0 inspiras are 5733001? lol i wonder why proton doesn't update the version. In US and other places the evo x gets a new rom each year
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mercury99
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Aug 12 2013, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 12 2013, 11:07 AM) newer one 57330002 . no tuning diff proton have to pay mitsu for new rom I bet. I see. The thing that surprises me is that you said Lancer GT and Inspira has the same rom ID but are they the same tune? If it's different tune then it explains why the Lancer has a higher output
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mercury99
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Aug 12 2013, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 12 2013, 11:54 AM) Older lancer have a diff tune.. newer one .. since 2011 all same. Same ROM ID in Mitsubishi is SAME .. they don't alter tuning and save as SAME ID .. they both have the same output hmm i see i see. interesting that mitsu would allow both cars to have the same output..
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mercury99
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Aug 12 2013, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 12 2013, 03:40 PM) if u wan understand what Mitsubishi is doing ... think in a business perspective .. not consumer end .. I sell to proton , every month they HIT quota .. I constant supply parts .. dun need worry after sales.. dun need setup sales counter.. dun need worry shipment. Dun need worry so many things.. as long as I SELL my parts .. I get $$ .. Yea .. Lancer owner might get upset and dun support us (Mitsubishi) in future .. but who cares ? mitsu selling like 300 unit per year ? .. proton selling like 3-5k per year ... tot of it at revenue side .. which one more ? and if u looking at WHY SAME OUTPUT .. SIMPLE .. Do you wan to spend EXTRA MANPOWER to tune purposely for proton ? such a small amount of sales ?? (comparing as a global car) .. If I were mitsu .. I wouldn't give a Damn on the tuning .. its juz another business.. why spend more to detune it ? (remember proton agreement was not to touch the engine and mechanical , except for absorber setup) ... So it is very logic that mitsu just plug in the latest map (as of their agreement) .. and settle with it .. that's why newer batch lancer have a diff ROM ID already .. but tuning also detune d due to emission control .. but yet inspira is stuck at the map as of the launch .. Have to think BIG bro .. yea i get all except the part where MMC kept the power output the same. guess they're sacrificing some of the Lancer customer's satisfaction. actually quite simple to detune, just retard ignition timing by a small degree la
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mercury99
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Aug 12 2013, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 12 2013, 04:30 PM) Still involve WORK right ? they have to do properly and tune properly eventhou detune .. its all about $$ .. WHY for the sake of 300 units lancer per year ? .. and u ask ur engineer to DETUNE for proton ? might as well juz leave it ? There is no advantage in detuning it .. and yet it has no impact on their business.. be it proton sell or they sell they make money .. infact I think they gain more when proton sell .. due to the fact that "Loyalty Fees" .. yes .. proton have to pay that .. that's why u see in Langkawi proton inspira cost more .. true also lol
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mercury99
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Aug 12 2013, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 12 2013, 05:31 PM) Took from official mitsu lancer spec. 20mm. UR bar is 23 or 25mm.. what difference would it make for a switch from 16mm to 23 or 25mm?
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mercury99
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Aug 12 2013, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 12 2013, 05:51 PM) Such question from you?? You sure u not trolling? i hardly troll, but it's quite obvious when i do. back to the question, i dont really know much abt suspension setups and stuff. so far after switching to stiffer shocks aka titan, i noticed better handling at high speed and cornering. but dont really know what a thicker arb will do since i haven't upgraded mine before
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mercury99
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Aug 12 2013, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 12 2013, 06:27 PM) Basic of the roll bar is to make both side of the wheel to work together.. (layman terms).. So when u connering.. The roll bar will make sure the other wheel work together with it and not work independently.. The big the bar the less roll.. But the ride will be harsher.. Bcoz when u drive normally .. One side hit uneven road the roll bar will pull the other side as well. would 23mm be too big of a jump from 16mm? did you upgrade yours?
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mercury99
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Aug 13 2013, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Aug 12 2013, 08:31 PM) anti roll bars or sway bars do make difference in cornering, the 1st thing you notice will be less body roll. other than the larger diameter on the ultra racing one, the stock ARB is hollow and its solid on the ultraracing and other aftermarket brand. so imagine a hollow tube vs larger solid tube. which one more rigid? my previous FD2 with full UR anti roll bars, GAB SS fully adjustable with 10k spring rate front and 6k rear. i gave many turbo cars a hard time in corners. lol.  wow dude your car must be super uncomfortable to drive on bumpy malaysian roads wei
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