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K3nnYkl82
post Aug 12 2013, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Aug 12 2013, 08:46 AM)
All 2.0 inspiras are 5733001? lol i wonder why proton doesn't update the version. In US and other places the evo x gets a new rom each year
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newer one 57330002 .
no tuning diff

proton have to pay mitsu for new rom I bet.
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post Aug 12 2013, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 12 2013, 11:07 AM)
newer one 57330002 .
no tuning diff

proton have to pay mitsu for new rom I bet.
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I see. The thing that surprises me is that you said Lancer GT and Inspira has the same rom ID but are they the same tune? If it's different tune then it explains why the Lancer has a higher output
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post Aug 12 2013, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Aug 12 2013, 11:42 AM)
I see. The thing that surprises me is that you said Lancer GT and Inspira has the same rom ID but are they the same tune? If it's different tune then it explains why the Lancer has a higher output
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Older lancer have a diff tune..
newer one .. since 2011 all same.
Same ROM ID in Mitsubishi is SAME ..
they don't alter tuning and save as SAME ID ..
they both have the same output
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post Aug 12 2013, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 12 2013, 11:54 AM)
Older lancer have a diff tune..
newer one .. since 2011 all same.
Same ROM ID in Mitsubishi is SAME ..
they don't alter tuning and save as SAME ID ..
they both have the same output
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sure or not.. then why lgt owez beat lala at the track? I tot diff arb weight need diff mapping..
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post Aug 12 2013, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(animegod @ Aug 12 2013, 01:38 PM)
sure or not.. then why lgt owez beat lala at the track? I tot diff arb weight need diff mapping..
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you forgot about the 50KG Metal bar doh.gif
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post Aug 12 2013, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(animegod @ Aug 12 2013, 01:38 PM)
sure or not.. then why lgt owez beat lala at the track? I tot diff arb weight need diff mapping..
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Aug 12 2013, 02:58 PM)
you forgot about the 50KG Metal bar doh.gif
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stop feeding the idiot lor ...
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post Aug 12 2013, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 12 2013, 11:54 AM)
Older lancer have a diff tune..
newer one .. since 2011 all same.
Same ROM ID in Mitsubishi is SAME ..
they don't alter tuning and save as SAME ID ..
they both have the same output
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hmm i see i see. interesting that mitsu would allow both cars to have the same output..
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post Aug 12 2013, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Aug 12 2013, 03:25 PM)
hmm i see i see. interesting that mitsu would allow both cars to have the same output..
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if u wan understand what Mitsubishi is doing ... think in a business perspective .. not consumer end ..

I sell to proton , every month they HIT quota .. I constant supply parts .. dun need worry after sales.. dun need setup sales counter.. dun need worry shipment. Dun need worry so many things.. as long as I SELL my parts .. I get $$ ..

Yea .. Lancer owner might get upset and dun support us (Mitsubishi) in future .. but who cares ? mitsu selling like 300 unit per year ? .. proton selling like 3-5k per year ... tot of it at revenue side .. which one more ?

and if u looking at WHY SAME OUTPUT .. SIMPLE .. Do you wan to spend EXTRA MANPOWER to tune purposely for proton ? such a small amount of sales ?? (comparing as a global car) .. If I were mitsu .. I wouldn't give a Damn on the tuning .. its juz another business.. why spend more to detune it ? (remember proton agreement was not to touch the engine and mechanical , except for absorber setup) ...

So it is very logic that mitsu just plug in the latest map (as of their agreement) .. and settle with it .. that's why newer batch lancer have a diff ROM ID already .. but tuning also detune d due to emission control .. but yet inspira is stuck at the map as of the launch ..

Have to think BIG bro ..
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QUOTE(alkt @ Aug 12 2013, 10:52 AM)
V8 STi but that was long time ago laugh.gif

tuned by my mechanic...
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So what you drive now?
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post Aug 12 2013, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 12 2013, 03:40 PM)
if u wan understand what Mitsubishi is doing ... think in a business perspective .. not consumer end ..

I sell to proton , every month they HIT quota .. I constant supply parts .. dun need worry after sales.. dun need setup sales counter.. dun need worry shipment. Dun need worry so many things.. as long as I SELL my parts .. I get $$ ..

Yea .. Lancer owner might get upset and dun support us (Mitsubishi) in future .. but who cares ? mitsu selling like 300 unit per year ? .. proton selling like 3-5k per year ... tot of it at revenue side .. which one more ?

and if u looking at WHY SAME OUTPUT .. SIMPLE .. Do you wan to spend EXTRA MANPOWER to tune purposely for proton ? such a small amount of sales ??  (comparing as a global car) .. If I were mitsu .. I wouldn't give a Damn on the tuning .. its juz another business.. why spend more to detune it ? (remember proton agreement was not to touch the engine and mechanical , except for absorber setup) ...

So it is very logic that mitsu just plug in the latest map (as of their agreement) .. and settle with it .. that's why newer batch lancer have a diff ROM ID already .. but tuning also detune d due to emission control .. but yet inspira is stuck at the map as of the launch ..

Have to think BIG bro ..
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yea i get all except the part where MMC kept the power output the same. guess they're sacrificing some of the Lancer customer's satisfaction. actually quite simple to detune, just retard ignition timing by a small degree la
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post Aug 12 2013, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Aug 12 2013, 04:25 PM)
yea i get all except the part where MMC kept the power output the same. guess they're sacrificing some of the Lancer customer's satisfaction. actually quite simple to detune, just retard ignition timing by a small degree la
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Still involve WORK right ?
they have to do properly and tune properly eventhou detune ..
its all about $$ .. WHY for the sake of 300 units lancer per year ? .. and u ask ur engineer to DETUNE for proton ?
might as well juz leave it ?
There is no advantage in detuning it .. and yet it has no impact on their business.. be it proton sell or they sell they make money .. infact I think they gain more when proton sell .. due to the fact that "Loyalty Fees" .. yes .. proton have to pay that .. that's why u see in Langkawi proton inspira cost more ..
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post Aug 12 2013, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 12 2013, 04:30 PM)
Still involve WORK right ?
they have to do properly and tune properly eventhou detune ..
its all about $$ .. WHY for the sake of 300 units lancer per year ? .. and u ask ur engineer to DETUNE for proton ?
might as well juz leave it ?
There is no advantage in detuning it .. and yet it has no impact on their business.. be it proton sell or they sell they make money .. infact I think they gain more when proton sell .. due to the fact that "Loyalty Fees" .. yes .. proton have to pay that .. that's why u see in Langkawi proton inspira cost more ..
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true also lol
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QUOTE(animegod @ Aug 12 2013, 01:38 PM)
sure or not.. then why lgt owez beat lala at the track? I tot diff arb weight need diff mapping..
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i think that is because of the suspension tuning. minor suspension tuning does alter the lap time a lot bro. laugh.gif
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post Aug 12 2013, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Aug 12 2013, 04:42 PM)
i think that is because of the suspension tuning. minor suspension tuning does alter the lap time a lot bro.  laugh.gif
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oh.. finally.. a logical explaination.. biggrin.gif .. so nothing to do with the bar lar..
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post Aug 12 2013, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(animegod @ Aug 12 2013, 05:18 PM)
oh.. finally.. a logical explaination..  biggrin.gif .. so nothing to do with the bar lar..
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Actually it does. IINM LGT has a thicker rear ARB (but if it is 50kg or not I dunno lar) whistling.gif

correct me if ayam wrong
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post Aug 12 2013, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 12 2013, 05:20 PM)
Actually it does. IINM LGT has a thicker rear ARB (but if it is 50kg or not I dunno lar) whistling.gif

correct me if ayam wrong
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Yes. GT Runs on a 20mm bar. While inspira 16mm bar.
GT abs and spring much stiffer compare inspira. BEtter response in connering.
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QUOTE(animegod @ Aug 12 2013, 05:18 PM)
oh.. finally.. a logical explaination..  biggrin.gif .. so nothing to do with the bar lar..
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i dont know the the exact different of the suspension built of both lgt and lala, so i cannot tell what is what. sweat.gif

but one thing i can confirm the lala rear sway bar has a smaller diameter, 16mm comparing to the lgt, 17mm
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 12 2013, 05:25 PM)
Yes. GT Runs on a 20mm bar. While inspira 16mm bar.
GT abs and spring much stiffer compare inspira. BEtter response in connering.
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the GT was 20mm? is it? from UR website it has 17mm... but it was the pre inspira model, 2007 model la.
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Aug 12 2013, 05:28 PM)
the GT was 20mm? is it? from UR website it has 17mm... but it was the pre inspira model, 2007 model la.
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Took from official mitsu lancer spec. 20mm.
UR bar is 23 or 25mm..


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